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Jman24:Why should i consider answering you? ![]() |
MightySparrow:Do you agree that JWs are the only mountain that's raised above all the hills? Micah 4:1 compare to Matthew 5:13-16 Because i don't know why you're so troubled over what another religion teaches when you have your own religion! ![]() |
Pure worship is the direct opposite of false religion, but all will appear to be the same in the eyes of a layman. WHY? Because humans were created with the sense to detect falsehood yet majority will overlook it when such falsehood is what his/her own relatives practices as their religion. Moreover all religions acknowledge that there is a mighty spirit being who is the master brain behind falsehood. So how can we all come together to resolve this issue? If we want to capitalize on what the books regarded as Holy books say then we must gather all the books about religion throughout the world and begin studying all to compare and contrast. Of course that will lead to endless arguments because each person will stick to how he/she understands in the book he/she is carrying. There are over 41,000 different sects claiming denominations in Christianity, there are many different sects all claiming denominations in Islam these are the two major players when it comes to religion yet there are other religions like Buddhism, Hinduism and other Traditional religions all claiming they know God. So instead of taken what their so called Holy books that's all contradicting each other say, why not look for the group that befits people of God? To Illustrate, thousands of schools may claim they are scientists each talking about physics, chemistry, biology, geography and agriculture. But if we allow each group to PRACTICE what they know are we still going to have issues regarding the real scientists? Certainly not, because the real scientists will use their wisdom to increase food supply, healthcare, make the best use of their physical environment and protect their domain from life threatening diseases. The same logic should be applied to religion. Let each religion present a group practicing what is written in their so called Holy book and we can use such a group as a means to ascertain the authenticity of what their book says. There are many religions claiming Christians and many claiming Muslims all of them are saying they know God but where are the undeniable qualities of God we can all acknowledge? like LOVE JOY PEACE PATIENCE GOODNESS GENTLENESS FAITH MILDNESS AND SELF-CONTROL It's after seeing all these qualities in a group that we can be sure that God is the one making it possible for imperfect humans to exhibit these fine qualities, because no human can exhibit these qualities since we're not perfect but as a group God's presence will be felt as He organizes His worshipers in an orderly manner. That's when we can now take the book such a group is using seriously not the other way around! ![]() |
MightySparrow:Armageddon is boldly written in all versions of the Bible so go and ask your Papa Oyedepo to tell you what he understands by Armageddon! ![]() |
Empiree:You're just as insane as many others claiming they belong to that religion! I mentioned just one Islamic group killing people and you're already running mad There are scores of killer groups all claiming Muslims and holding your Qur'an as their source of guidance, you can deny them here but everyone know sey them no born you well to stand face to face with a Taliban, Al-Kaeda, Alshabab, Boko haram, Isis or any of those groups and speak against their activities unless you want your head off your neck. ![]() So present one group of worshipers practicing what your religion says i'm not interested in whatever your book says because it's gibberish to me until you present a group that befits people that can be referred to as worshipers of the true God. Meanwhile below is an Islamic state where your Qur'an is highly valued and enforced yet these are Muslim prostitutes smoking weed and cooling it down with brandy or whiskey! ![]()
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Greenholics:Religion is like a means of putting a multitude under control as in check so no matter the religion it will help to instill some sought of fear in the minds of each individual even when nobody is watching. To Illustrate, religion can be likened to the food we need to keep us living as a society the teaching or doctrines is like the seasoning we add to our food so once it has been applied excessively any right thinking person will know something is wrong with the cooking, that is why most people are complaining about religion today yet the problem they all have is instead of looking for the right restaurant where a good (nourishing) food is prepared each person keeps looking for what they'll like to eat like little kids demanding for fast food and chocolates due to it's sweetness neglecting the fact that such food aren't balanced as diet. Atheism is like total abstinence from food of course you know what that means to the body, any society governed by atheistic or agnostic ideas will gradually collapse. So we can compare atheism to total abstinence from food which will speedily kill any society whereas religion when is not balance could be likened to processed foods that's not balance as a diet! ![]() |
Yippeedaniel:If you don't believe in faith quoting people and commenting only makes you equal to an insane! ![]() |
Yippeedaniel:Guy, you don't have any business with this nah! So why are you worried about whatever people say regarding the Bible? Just help yourself by eating your food, drinking your dagogo and living your life anyhow you please because this has nothing to do with people like you who doesn't care about God's word! ![]() |
Empiree:With this you're a living proof that Islam is a religion of terrorists! ![]() How can you start quoting a book and instead of calmly asking questions to know my resolve regarding the book i choose to believe you're just asking questions irrationally without even giving me the chance to explain myself! ![]() Please what is the difference between Boko Haram that's going about killing people over what they should believe and what they shouldn't believe? ![]() My guy, your Qur'an stands as authority over you because you've reasoned with what you found written in it and you're convinced based on your understanding. So i'm not in position to start quoting the book you trust and telling you what you should believe rather i should be patient enough to grasp your understanding of the book before i can come in not the other way around. So if you want to reason with others liberally you must allow them to tell you their conviction in relation to the book they regards as sacred. Otherwise i'll tell you to go and convince your terrorist brothers (Boko haram) that they're not interpreting your Qur'an in the right sense before crossing the boundaries to the Bible only to start correcting another religion over what their holy book says. Haba, go and correct your own people carrying your Qur'an and interpreting it as a reason to kill innocent people! ![]() |
MightySparrow:What says your trinity Papa? Can't you that your Papa is totally irrelevant even before you his church member? and what the GB says is causing you sleepless nights whereas nobody gives a damn about what your Papa teaches even you! ![]() Sometimes i wonder what exactly you are doing in his church! ![]() |
MightySparrow:Ask your Papa to interpret what Jesus meant at John 3:16 to you! ![]() |
Empiree:That is what your Qur'an say about Witnesses not what is logical so it your Qur'an against the Bible not my own case! ![]() Empiree:This is where you need to learn! Your Qur'an stands as authority within those who accepts it as God's word not for everyone living around you. To Illustrate imagine a citizen of Kenya who doesn't have anything to do with Nigeria, do you think it makes any sense quoting the laws made by the Nigerian National Assembly for him when he's not a Nigerian? So your Qur'an only stands as authority within those that accepted it as the word of their God but to someone like me it's complete gibberish until you convince me that it's a message from the God i love to worship! ![]() Empiree:Again you failed woefully! If these groups are practicing what the Qur'an say yet they are different sects, you and i aren't kids nah, i am telling you now that it's only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES that's practicing what Jesus taught globally so if you can't point to one single group then i believe Boko haram and other terrorists groups are also Muslims. There must be strict tenets that only one group is practicing otherwise you don't know what your religion truly teach. You can't present five different sects in one country yet claiming they're all practicing what one book (Qur'an) teaches! ![]() |
Empiree:I have presented the one and only group practicing what Jesus taught to you, THEY ARE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Now it's your turn to present the group you know that's practicing Islam, i don't think that's my duty since you said i don't understand the religion and that's why i left. So present the group you know that's practicing Islam let's learn from them! ![]() |
MightySparrow:Go and ask your Papa, he's proudly one of your kind "TRINITARIANS" ![]() |
MightySparrow:What as my own conviction got to do with your own? My friend, if you hear of something it's your duty to find out by studying the scriptures but waiting for others to tell you YES or NO makes you a joker! 1Thessalonians 5:21 ![]() |
PastorM:"You're not a Christian" doesn't mean judgment rather it's a call to help you know the truth but if you're not willing it's left to you. Judgment is when someone calls you a criminal not when a person tells you that you're not a tailor when you're claiming so! ![]() |
PastorM:The truth is you are not a Christian at all not to talk of being BORN AGAIN. Most people like you just like to belong when they see something is widely accepted but you don't really want to know what is involved. What you're seeing today is the result of Jesus' prophetic parable found at Matthew 13:24-30 Jesus came to establish pure worship but Satan came in when all the pioneers of Christianity are sleeping (dead) Matthew 13:25 Jesus commanded the angels not to interfere {Matthew 13:27-28} they should allow all these groups to continue growing together until the time of harvest. So the religions rocking the entire inherited earth today are all claiming they believe in Jesus but only one belongs to him while others are the products of Satan's weeds. For your information this is the last minute of the spiritual warfare it's not about weapons but psychological, you have just shown with the topic of this particular thread that your faith in Jesus has been affected badly by Satan's missiles! Isaiah 54:17 compare to Ephesians 6:14-20 Well your faith can't be strong when it's not built on the truth that's why you don't know the hour in which we are now, that's how they will continue to argue blindly until God's kingdom come to wipe them all away! |
MightySparrow:Well you don't need to worry about whatever any RELIGION says, remember Jesus said only those that believe in him will be saved {John 3:16} and Muslims also believe that only those that believe in Muhammad will be saved. So if you're not scared of what the Muslims are saying and what Jesus said there's no need to be concerned about what JWs believe after all you too have your own God and i'm sure your God said something about those who aren't worshiping him! ![]() |
MightySparrow:After the flood the angels that came down to commit immorality with female humans {Genesis 6:1-4} tried to return to their former abode but God rejected them {2Peter 2:4} so they returned to the earth as invisible mighty spirit beings and became gods everywhere they settled. That's how many nations got their gods including Abraham's family {Joshua 24:2} but Abraham was kindhearted and sincere so the true God called him to leave those people and settle in the land of Canaan. The purpose is to find just one portion on the planet where pure worship will be established so whoever wants to worship the only true God can see the difference between God's people and the rest who are worshipers of demons. The demands of those demons is outrageous as they're asking their worshipers to sacrifice their children alive before they can receive favour. So God commanded the Israelites to wipe them out completely from Canaan so that they will not contaminate pure worship! ![]() |
MightySparrow:It's our greatest concern so as God's people: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! ![]() |
Yippeedaniel:Wow, you really got it 100% here my friend! ![]() YES! Servants of the true God are tired of this system of things that's why we are earnestly praying for God's Kingdom to come and stop all these bad things happening everywhere. Matthew 6:10 So if you're not tired of this system it simply means you love it this way but our God said: Do not love either the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him; because everything in the world—the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of one’s means of life—does not originate with the Father, but originates with the world. Furthermore, the world is passing away and so is its desire, but the one who does the will of God remains forever! 1John 2:15-17 The above statement is for faithful people like this man: Your eyes are too pure to look on what is evil, And you cannot tolerate wickedness. Why, then, do you tolerate the treacherous And keep silent when a wicked man swallows up someone more righteous than he is? Why do you make man like the fish of the sea, Like creeping things that have no ruler? All of these he hauls up with a fishhook. He catches them in his dragnet, And he gathers them in his fishing net. That is why he rejoices greatly. That is why he offers sacrifices to his dragnet And makes sacrifices to his fishing net; For by them his portion is rich, And his food is choice. Will he then keep emptying out his dragnet? Will he go on slaughtering nations without compassion? Habakkuk 1:13-17 So you really understood us and i love that, we are tired of this wicked system of things, Satan is the one in control now! 1John 5:19 ![]() |
true2god:Don't make this to be too hard on yourself my young man, God is on His throne and nothing you can do whether to raise Him higher or degrade Him. So concentrate on what matters to you now, we are discussing about the group whose faith is like that of the servants of God in ancient times, this is not about arguing profusely or looking vehemently for way to pick up insults. You have mentioned the names of ancient servants of God and i said what i discovered is that their line of thought regarding God's organization and pure worship is the same as that of Jehovah's Witnesses today. That's food for thought not a means to get you angry! ![]() |
Empiree:My friend, Religion should be taken as God's arrangement to make man live like brothers and sisters not just where each person is only concerned with his personal matters. Islam is just like any other religion that the world has known, it has nothing to do with our welfare but strictness to a deity that's of no practical benefit both to the worshipers or their neighbours. If you carefully listen to a Hindu, Buddhist, Christendom, Atheist, Agnostic, Traditionalist and any other group having a school of thought you will notice that all of them have one thing in common: How to reason on morals and healthy living! But where all of them failed is how to connect others and carry them along in their line of thought! Your religion may copy what the God of Israel says and start claiming they have something to do with that God but so much is missing in the link. That's why i keep searching for a religion that will beat my intellect not just a religion talking about holiness and sanctity of it's God because that's what all the religions do! ![]() Empiree:Jesus came from Israel and if there is nothing special about his teaching i won't have taken it seriously whether he's called God, Son of God or messenger of God. I carefully read through his words and meditated thoroughly before i concluded that this person is totally different from all others i have come across their teachings when talking about someone from God, his teachings beat all human wisdom. So i picked interest and after been satisfied that Jesus has what it takes to be called a messenger of God i started looking for the group that's practicing what he taught. As for Islam it's a complete failure but before you start arguing can you present a group of people claiming Muslims and practicing what that your religion teaches? Remember that there are terrorist groups using your Qur'an and killing innocent people up and down, i don't want to believe that those ones are true Muslims so i'll like to know from you the name of a group that's practicing Islam exactly the way it should be. As for Christianity i only told you that it's not the name JEHOVAH chose to call his worshipers but our first century brothers welcomed the development because it makes them happy that they were vilified along with Jesus Christ. There is a group practicing what Jesus taught today and they are known as Jehovah's Witnesses. So present a group practicing what Islam teaches then let's step out of the box (Religion) for a moment and use our God's given brains to decipher which of the two truly befits to be called worshipers of God! ![]() |
frbona:Must you read every comment? ![]() You atheists are so stupid that you feel like correcting everything around you yet you don't want to be corrected! ![]() |
Empiree:I was also a Muslim before i converted to JW so if you're interested in knowing the truth you've got to put aside sentiment and face facts! First of all the true God of Israel never called His worshipers "CHRISTIANS" neither did Jesus mention anything as such. So how did Jesus' first century disciples got that name? They were trying as much as possible to do things the way Jesus instructed them because he told them that it's not by calling him Lord! Lord!! or bowing or kneeling before him that matters rather they must do the will of his father who is in heaven (God) Matthew 7:21-23 The reason is because many back then acknowledged Jesus as Lord they keep calling him "Lord" and kneeling before him but they missed the import of his message: Before anyone can qualify for everlasting life he/she must become an imitator of Jesus Christ in thoughts, words and actions. This requires great humility from each person as we must abandon what we prefer doing and cling unto what Jesus taught us. Luke 9:23 That is what the inhabitants of Antioch saw in them before they nicknamed them "CHRISTIANS" in fact it was a mockery back then as whoever is known by that group name is considered a slowpoke who can't think by himself but always adhering to Jesus' words. Many of them were arrested and killed just like their leader yet they will not fight back nor compromise their faith. So the inhabitants of Antioch began calling them by that group name to vilify them. But Jesus' followers welcome the new development with joy and they're now sure that they are doing exactly what their leader taught them! Matthew 10:32-33 So the group name CHRISTIAN is not what God wants to call His worshipers the inhabitants of Antioch were using it to mock Jesus' disciples. God has foretold through Isaiah the prophet that his true worshipers will be mocked with a name, they will drop it for Satan's agents who will later carry it on their head, but the true God will call His own worshipers by another name and destroy all those hypocrites using that mockery name as a disguise to perpetrate evil! And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name: Isaiah 65:15 So my friend, the name "CHRISTIANS" wasn't God's choice rather God permitted His people to bear that mockery until Jesus separated his true disciples from the midst of misinformed Churchgoers {Matthew 13:30} the name God has always called His worshipers are "His Witnesses" {Isaiah 43:10-12} Apostle Paul also confirmed this when he wrote a letter to the Hebrew speaking congregation and after listing the names of ancient servants of God {Hebrews 11:4-32} Paul declared that they are WITNESSES of the true God! Hebrews 12:1 So from Abel to Jesus Christ himself and true servants of God today we are all JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Revelations 1:5 May you have PEACE! ![]() |
Empiree:David Wood is just one of them (the Churchgoers) Jesus laid down the principle that will help you IDENTIFY the true Christians it's written in the Bible so even if you're not interested in Christianity you can still distinguish between the real Christians and misinformed Churchgoers! Matthew 7:16-18 ![]()
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After Jesus' departure Satan came and sow weeds in what Jesus established {Matthew 13:25} but Jesus said both the fine seed and weed will be allowed to continue growing together, then when it's time for harvesting the weeds will be separated from the fine seeds! Matthew 13:26-30 After killing all the pioneers of Christianity in the first century Satan kept creating more and more religions till now all claiming Christians. Jesus promised to return (in spirit) to inspect what he commissioned but Satan has changed everything completely! Luke 18:8 So when Jesus returned in 1914 only a group of Bible Scholars perceived that Jesus is around but how can they prove it to millions who were anticipating to see Jesus physically? Well Jesus instantly began instructing them on all the false teachings and doctrines Satan introduced, they began making amendments, but other religions claiming Christians were criticizing them saying "they keep changing their doctrines" not knowing that it's Jesus who is working with this group. Today this group has stand out completely from all other religions, while members of other religions are ashamed to talk about their church they're all hiding under the name that inhabitants of Antioch called Jesus' disciples "CHRISTIANS" whereas the true God has began calling his own worshipers by another name! Isaiah 65:15 So don't be surprised that you will still see lots and lots of irritating things in the churches of Christendom, they are signs showing you that God has rejected Christendom churches and chosen the group that's humbly following the invisible Mighty Jesus. Jesus' group is known globally today as zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word {Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8} even though their teachings sounds strange to everyone {John 10:20} because Jesus has removed all the false doctrines Satan and his agents brought in. That's why everyone keeps saying "they love ONLY their members" John 13:34-35 They are known globally as Jehovah's Witnesses! ![]() |
Empiree:Naaaaaaaaaaaaa! A Churchgoer is one who is born into a religion he/she can't explain or someone brainwashed to carry credulous thoughts in his/her head. While a Christian is the one who has what it takes to convince anyone that he knows the right thing. So when a Churchgoer is given the opportunity to talk about his believes you'll continue to wonder how he/she could have accepted such ideas because if someone is not brought up with such ideas it will be impossible for a normal person to accept it. But when a Christian is allowed to speak about his faith any listener will feel the touch and it will be either you wish to be like him if you're sincere {Act 26:24-28} or start thinking of how to silence him if you're the insincere type! Act 4:13,18; 5:33 Nobody can listen to a real followers of Christ and remain the same, if you love the truth you will continue to long for more but if you hate the truth you will look for ways to silence them! ![]() |
Empiree:You need to know how to distinguish between the Christians and misinformed Churchgoers! ![]() |
sagenaija:Whatever is founded on credulity can never be resolved because it's a lie! ![]() |
haekymbahd:This alone has solved the riddle! Jesus' own words clarifying that we need to know only two persons: The only true God And Jesus whom God sent (messenger) Definitely the account of Matthew 28:19-20 wasn't talking about three persons otherwise Jesus wouldn't have omitted the third person here. So we need to be baptized in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit means knowing how God created everything, how things turn bad and the part God's son took in the salvation plan then what keeps God's people united as one big and happy family of PEACE loving worshipers is God's active force (Holy Spirit) John 14:26 Failure to grasp this will only amount to contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all in the name of worshiping the same God! ![]() Thanks for substantiating what Jesus said in that verse! ![]() |
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