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sagenaija:
You seem ever so eager to quickly respond to others. We are not talking about

Unless you're saying that the title 'First and the Last' means what you're saying up there. But then you need to show us FROM SCRIPTURE how that is so.

Can you answer these in the affirmative:
Is Jehovah 'The First and the Last'?
Is Jesus also 'The First and the Last'?

sunjai:
you don't need to continue answering them cos even in the face of truth, they will continue being in denial.

Workch:
By sayings reality, I mean outside of religious dogmas and self-delusional of Christians

OLAADEGBU:
Elected by who?

sagenaija:
MaxInDHouse, janosky: There are words I have never used and claims I've never made in my discussions with you guys. Go back to every single one of my post to check. But because you have assumed my position in issues you argue from your preconceived opinions about my stance. Instead of looking at the issues presented, you prefer to be either on the defensive, refusing to directly answer questions or on the other hand attack the other person.

I have stretched myself in responding to janosky in spite of his odd ways but it seems one would have to give up on him.

I'm happy though that MaxinDHouse has an area of agreement with me: that both Jehovah and Jesus are 'the First and the Last'.

That 'First and the Last' who was dead, and now alive for ever and ever (Rev. 1:17-18) is the same Lamb whose blood bought his church. Maybe he will better understand that.

MightySparrow:
Perhaps, GB didn't know that there is only one and create another for you.

MightySparrow:
There is only one God, except your GB is the present day Aaron. Worshipping their calf of delusion in your hearts

LordReed:
Amen! I receive it! LMFAO!

OLAADEGBU:
Brandon is proof that you don't have to win to be in the White House. LET'S GO BRANDON!

OLAADEGBU:
I meant Deeper Life. Thank God you counted yourself out.

Omoluabiii:
hello Guys, theres something that has been bothering me... Is it good to collect money when you play instrument for church.
And if you say its bad, what are your reasons.
I really need an advice because, i am in the shoes of getting paid in a church but am confused.

Janosky:
John 17:7 is Jesus himself clarifying his position on Matthew 16:18.
His "my Church" is the personal property of his Father, John 17:7,18 from the mouth of Jesus.

Ogbeni,2 questions needs your response:
Is your God a Lamb?

According to Paul @Acts 20:28, Romans 8:3,32 "His own" is what?
Romans 8:3,32 & Acts 20:28 scriptures interpreted scriptures.
"His own" is the son who spoke @ John 3:16.
No be rocket science

You can not "be responsible" for the position of your holy ghost giving you & fellow Trinitarians 2 conflicting revelations on Acts 20:28 simultaneously.
Is holy ghost confused or confused Trinitarians?
Issorait


Why do now make a distinction between (Father & Son) them @John17:7,18 & contradict your claim @Acts 20:28?

LordReed:
Actually it is your fervent wish. See highlighted below. LMFAO!

OLAADEGBU:
I missed you too but we are not the only Christians.

LordReed:
Oh when you were saying if I was homeless I would get no help that was a good wish? LMAO!

OLAADEGBU:
Did DJT lose?

MightySparrow:
Our group, The church of the Firstborn!
Heb. 12:23

OLAADEGBU:
Are you saying that the JWs group are the only one haunting you?

Greenholics:
From this
" My friend, the truth is that wealth is tied to stealing from the poor. One way or another people who deprive their fellowman the right to good things that's how wealth comes "
" where did they get the billions they're using for their philanthropic exercises?
Is it not by stealing from the poor? "
You went to this....
" The costly possession were gotten from the contributions of our wealthy brothers and sisters"
So you mean you have evil wealthy people in Jw contrinuting money? since you believe all wealth is evil...... i am just curious.
The founder of the Jw was though by Russel now where did Russel made his money from? He was broke before he started the movement that Rutherfordniw names Jw..... you want proof? Lol The publication are only free if the receiver refuse to pay, many a time they come to me and preach and say we have something for you, then ask me to supoort or contribute.... then when i decline contributing they then say on for free...... if people already contribute and paid so its free why still asking for contributions in the street? Lol
You hate non jw so much but you can collect our money?
From this
" if everyone is a JW there will be no reason for sicknesses because JWs believe that when you're dirty .......
You went to this
" What has the death caused by a global pandemic that cut across all race and class got to do with cleanliness? Perhaps you've forgotten what you said earlier that the rich lives in clean environment yet it's the same class that died mostly in this side of the world through Covid19. So people got infected through breath from infected persons not dirt " oh i thought you said they will be no sickness cos jw cleaning habit is solution to all illness.
You see now you are confuse because i told you being clean is good but its not the cure for all ilness, there is a space for science in the physical health of man. You dont even know what is happening in your set, this the reason they are selling off the ill gotten ( using your logic) 1 billion dollar property
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jehovahs-witnesses-sell-watchtower-for-dollar1bn-nqcf58675 They are selling off the property because want to relocating the HQ to an even bigger and mkre expensive place.... check the article (you don't believe me, go research and see) I know you are tryjng hard to defend your religion, but please get knowledge about the bible and its origin and what you are practicing the history, favt figures abs all .......i am not askjng you to come do ifa with me, in your own sect try and strive to know just every thjng about what you practising and history, because from this our little chit chat i already know you are half baked, you couldn't even quote a bible verse correctly you took it out of contex. Read my brother, travel, visit places and people... watch movies it will expand your mind and give you deeper understanding, don't be a feather weight in the religion you claim to love so much, and also you religionis soly about love, not competing, in your last post you dint even know what i practice but you alresdy assumeit cant do what jw is doing........ that is ignorace at it finest, if there is a scale for ignorace i bet you broke that scale over and over in the course of our little back and forth here, no wonder you are deleting your post you made on this topic.....
Lastly your bible says we are all from Adam and eve, that makes us one family, you are my brother ....lol After this i will only reply u if you dont back up you stance with verified proof or reference to your bible. Thanks

LordReed:
So you can wish me bad things but pray for me to see the light. That sounds quite insincere.

LordReed:
Oh like you wish me all sorts of negative things, is that the prayer you are saying Jesus asked you to make? LMAO!

OLAADEGBU:
I instead imposed a ban on myself because I was getting fed up of the constant bug deleting and banning my posts.

Crystyano:
Is it possible for you to give me anything except derogatory remarks
Even before anyone asks you for help,
You're already mocking.....
If you keep calling me names,
That will not make you special....

obonujoker:
Thank you for this... WE have been saying this since, but THEY don't believe us...

OLAADEGBU:
Were you wishing that I was dead? Well, am back to haunt you.

sonmvayina:
All these are what your organization has brain washed you with. I want quotes from the Jewish prophet about the messiah and what he will accomplish .

Every other prophecy about his birth by a virgin {Isaiah 7:14} will become a great counselor, mighty God everlasting father and Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} will be counted among the sinners {Isaiah 53:12} they will cast lots for his clothing {Psalms 22:18} will die but his flesh will not rotten in the grave {Psalms 16:10} they will give him vinegar {Psalms 69:21} all these Jesus fulfilled that's why he could say that his earthly assignment!

Greenholics:
Aint that funny how you now talking from both sides of your mouth, but its ok it shows you have seen how faulty your sentiment fanatistic stance is. Also you said wealth is tied to stealing...... now let me engage you with your bible...... in Deuteronomy 8:18 your bible says God gives strength to make wealth ( so u mean God gives the wealty strength to steal from the poor) your bible says God gives wealth and added no sorrow..... you see before you quote a bible verse out of context make sure you read the chapter so you get the full understandingof that verse, Luke 16:9 didnt say all wealth is evil or unrighteous, if you read the chapter Jesus was teaching against making friends and following the ways of dishonest people that makes "unrighteousness wealth"

Greenholics:
Why did you decied to pick unrighteousness wealth mentions as proof that all wealth is dirty and unrighteous? ........ you came here initially to show how awesome your religion, you are not in a fix now trying to win an argument that is ego sir keep it in check.
if watch tower truly want to help the poor amongt Jw then i dont see why they need an office building that is worth over a billion dollar, how many aid have yoi gotten from the international body to support your business? 1billion dollar off for an NGO is misappropriation of funds, its stealing because the donation was not made to build multi million dollar office, stuf like these are what the Nigeria government can do.... its corruption sir.

Greenholics:
Your books are not free, you ask for support and not just from us also from various government bodies around the world including the united nations (UN) the ssme organisation you people vehemently preach again, if you want proof i wil just ask..lol
Why is it that when i ask you a direct question you just dont answer it, do you knownhow many people covid killed in your sect?

Greenholics:
I stilk want to know how dirt can cause diabetes or hiv?
Can you back up your last paragraph about people not clea ing thier homes by them self and the will not enter paradise? Or is that what you formed in your head because theybtold you rich people are evil, wealth is bad so sell off all what you have and donate it..... meanwhile your leaders in USA (watch tower) are sitting on a 1 billion dollar property use as HQ... do you think they are cleaning that massive property by themselves? Lol

Greenholics:
See how you going back on your words now.... i havent even open the bible to engage you yet sir.
Love and light my brother, i pray your quest for God should not die but should be based on knowledge. Thanks for your time.
Surprisingly you can "speak" braggadiously anymore because you know, we will ask questions and we work with facts and figures here.

OLAADEGBU:
Am back what's up?

Workch:
The Bible remains fiction that’s why it doesn’t work in reality

sonmvayina:
So MaxInDHouse, what is the purpose of the messiah as contained in the old testament. So we can address the one Jesus fulfilled and the ones he did not..

Workch:
The Bible is a lie and fiction until you provide evidence for the claims.
It’s as simple as that

AntiChristian:
So sir, does it mean only God and a woman that can take away Jesus's power? And why didn't Jesus cry hard at the woman like he cried to God on the Cross abi na stake?