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blueAgent:
Stop fooling yourself you guys(JW) are totally far from God's chosen people.

But we are fulfilling what God promised! Isaiah 2:2-4

blueAgent:
God never gave birth to any man,every man or Angel were all created by GOD.
Only JESUS was begotten by GOD.

Firstborn of all creation: self explanatory!

tctrills:
Is Adam still a begotten or is Jesus Christ the only begotten?

BEGOTTEN means a lot so both of them are begotten in their unique ways the difference is that while one is the only begotten in the spirit realms where creation began the other is the only begotten Son of God among humans {Luke 3:38} that's what brought both of them to the same rank when talking about the salvation of mankind! 1Corinthans 15:45
Only one son of God infected mankind with sin and death {Romans 5:12} and so it's only one son of God that's required to redeem mankind from sin and death! 6:23

OLAADEGBU:
I can see mad max peeping in as a French vouyager here, could Yemaja be his lover? God can tell.

Upon all your Bible studies with Kumuyi!😟

A good man brings good out of the good treasure of his heart, but a wicked man brings what is wicked out of his wicked treasure; for out of the heart’s abundance his mouth speaks. Luke 6:45

tctrills:
You just spoiled everything and confused yourself. So Jesus Christ is no longer the only begotten. We have 2 begotten sons now. It only takes 30 minutes for you boys to make a U-turn. It is well.

The word "BEGOTTEN" has a wider meaning than you assume when applied the context matters mostly but since you don't want to learn go and apply it the way you want.

shem4soul:
My only hope is that, no matter where he is now, God will still reach out to him because grace is always available.

Real atheists are irredeemable creatures!
There are two categories of humans the believer and the atheist.
Whatever they say doesn't determine what they really are on the inside rather it's their actions that exposes them so whether someone is a believer or an atheist it's through their actions you will know.
A believer will never give up on God instead he or she believes there is God so instead of discarding the existence of God he or she will continue complaining about obvious atrocities in false religion which means he or she knows God will not permit such evil and he or she will continue on his search for the true religion.
An atheist believes only in himself so even when he says God exists he will never ever submit to any organized group to join in worshiping God whole soul he will continue saying he knows God on his own hence he is worshiping himself.

tctrills:
MaxInDHouse: This is your confused boy again, teaching that Adam is a begotten son of God and at the same time, , Jesus Christ is only the begotten son of God.
At least we can both agree that the boy needs help.

You can be really funny walahi talahi.

Is Adam not God's begotten Son?

Go through my comment again and see where you keep dribbling yourself.

God created Jesus first and through him all other creatures came into existence just as Adam is the only human through whom all other humans exist!🙂

tctrills:
Yes, he claimed that firstborns are the only begotten.
His very words
I thought all JW believe the same thing. My apologies, I did not realize you guys have different independent doctrines.

Dey play!

tctrills:
MaxInDHouse, here is your brother teaching the foolish doctrine, but thank goodness you guys have changed

You just like deceiving yourself.

Is that what he is saying?

Someone reading your comments will think i'm the one you quoted word for word but when asked you quoted another person yet out of context!

But they have the right to attach religious titles to their names in the public! Matthew 23:8-10

tctrills:
That was not your argument. You claimed only firstborns are begotten, but now I see that doctrine is bringing you shame.

Na me tell you that one?

tctrills:
No wahala, I would not advise you to take part in a discussion that makes you uncomfortable, but its ok, you have changed some of your false doctrines in the course of our brief discussion.

Nothing changed Jesus was created by God and God created all other things through Jesus.
That has been our belief since ages!🙂

I'm not interested in your aimless arguments at least you can see what the Bible said!

tctrills:
So other creatures are not begotten. Why couldn't you say this all along instead of confusing yourself? If you had said this, there wouldn't have been a need for the argument. To be clear, now you are saying that Jesus Christ is the only begotten of the Father, the rest are not begotten because they came through someone else, right?
To the next question, are you saying that the spirits and angels in heaven came through Jesus Christ?

blueAgent:
Bla bla bla.
That verse did not mention we would carry umbrella .
You see ,you guys are still not the ones Jesus was referring to.

So disciples protect themselves from the hot sun must be included in what Bible says shey?

blueAgent:
See Lamba .
Abeg where in the Bible is it written that Jesus was imitating GOD?

Read John 5:19

blueAgent:
And what did it mean?

If you are serious you can go through my previous comments!

blueAgent:
I guess you did not read this?
Incarnate
embody or represent (a deity or spirit) in human form.

So Jesus is a deity just like other gods right? Psalms 82:1,6

Expanse2020:
we gladily wait as you claimed no hell firw

We gladly wait as you claim God will roast people alive!🙂

BEGOTTEN simply means cause existence of someone so if begotten is used for others then only begotten has another meaning in that context not that there is no other begotten!🙂

tctrills:
Are you guys serious? I keep on saying that Jesus Christ is begotten. Or is it that you suddenly lost the ability to read? Here I am saying it again, Jesus Christ is begotten of the Father. I believe everything written in the scripture. Now, what is your point or your new attack line?

So the incarnate was praying to who I?

blueAgent:
Stop deceiving.
This is the dictionary definition of incarnate.
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incarnate
adjective
adjective: incarnate
/ɪnˈkɑːnət,ɪnˈkɑːneɪt/
(especially of a deity or spirit) embodied in human form.
"God incarnate"
Similar:
in human form
in the flesh
in physical form
in bodily form
made flesh
made manifest
corporeal
physical
fleshly
embodied
represented in the most fundamental or extreme form.
"here is capitalism incarnate"
verb
verb: incarnate; 3rd person present: incarnates; past tense: incarnated; past participle: incarnated; gerund or present participle: incarnating
/ɪnˈkɑːneɪt,ˈɪnkɑːneɪt/
embody or represent (a deity or spirit) in human form.
"the idea that God incarnates himself in man"
put (a concept or quality) into concrete form.
"a desire to make things which will incarnate their personality"
(of a person) be the living embodiment of (a quality).
"the man who incarnates the pain of the entire community"
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blueAgent:
So when God called Jesus his only begotten Son, was God not aware that he has men and Angels that are also his Sons?

I have told you what that means several times but since you won't accept it do whatever you like with it!

blueAgent:
Another Lamba.
Jesus imitate his Father, but other Angels cannot or does not want to imitate God?
Religeon would destroy people.

Imitating someone differs from simply obeying Him.

Hope you can grasp that!

blueAgent:
Keep fooling yourself

End of story!

See story?

Let me just answer the short question:

We are fulfilling the prophecy recorded in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3


In the last days the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. Many peoples will come and say, “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths.” The law will go out from Zion, the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore.

blueAgent:
What are you doing in mass?

blueAgent:
Please post the link to my post you claim I wrote.

LITERAL SON!

Expanse2020:
No
Die first you will know what is grave, what is hell......

Applies to everyone including you so if your book says there is anything after death you have to wait until death takes you first!

Janosky:
BlueAgent post on 8th November, 2025.
"Jesus is God incarnate."
BlueAgent conflicting post:
"Jesus is the literal son of God."
What should we attribute to this conflicting claim by BlueAgent?
holy ghost conflicting revelation !
E no easy to defend false doctrine.
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You can't blame him because that's the grammar his pastors used to describe Jesus but they won't check the dictionary neither the Bible to confirm if it's so! Act 17:11
Oxford dictionary!
incarnate (incarnates, present participle incarnating; simple past and past participle incarnated)

To embody in flesh; to invest with a bodily, especially a human, form.

To gain full existence (bodily or otherwise).

To incarn; to become covered with flesh; to heal over.

To make carnal; to reduce the spiritual nature of.

To put into or represent in a concrete form, as an idea.

So according to BlueAgent Jesus is God's Son and at the same time God who born himself!

Janosky:
Tctrills,why are you expressing your unbelief & denial of John 3:16,Psalm 2:7 & Hebrew 5:5 in your own bible?
Tctrills,which verse in your own Bible says that God Yahweh is begotten or only begotten?
E no dey at all.
Every being is begotten creature (Fathered) by God.
Your own Bible says that Jesus is begotten & also only begotten.
This is the irresistible evidence in your bible that Jesus is a creature.

You've nailed it but trust the twister he'll surely change the narrative.
If begotten means create or procreate then Jesus is a creature that's why the scriptures called him the firstborn of all creation. Colossians 1:15

That point is making him really annoyed now!

Janosky:
John 3:16 & Hebrew 5:5 is Bible truth but to Tctrills it's confusion.
God is my Father who begotten me through the agency of my parents.
Tctrills, is God your Father?
Come & be WAILING.

If you tell him what begotten means he will change the narrative that's why i don't waste my precious time with him anymore if he has anything tangible to say let him go and teach his church people at least they need to be organized in doing the work of the Lord!

PeterObi4Presid:
Funny. I only do politics on Nairaland. To express frustration and give my voice. Offline, I don't talk politics... I face my life squarely.
You could still think of ways aside politics issue, though it's a good one

Politics is the only problem of humanity once we remove politics the world will become a haven!🙂