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Reverseng:
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"If Jesus truly came to die for the sins of this world, why did he wait to be murdered?

Why didn't he commit suicide, if truly he was bent on killing himself for the sins you're committing?"

Answer to Question 1
It's by breaking up the works of Satan {1John 3:8} that will trigger Jesus' death so Satan can't allow Jesus to continue exposing all his secrets that's why he had to get Jesus killed which fulfilled the prophecy that the Messiah (Christ) will be murdered! Daniel 9:26

Answer to Question 2
Jesus wasn't bent on killing himself and we know this when he was praying as in begging God to save him from death! Luke 22:44; Hebrews 5:7

So you missed it Sir he wasn't bent on getting himself killed!🙂

If you want to grasp the meaning of signs used in the Bible book of Revelations all you need to do is study Jesus' use of illustrations {Matthew 13:13} remember that God gave Jesus the secret of what will happen in the final part of the days but instead of Jesus to tell John directly he sent an angel to pass the message across to John using signs {Revelations 1:1} therefore to know the meaning of everything that is written in the book of Revelations Jesus is the key.
Now let's talk about the two Prophets.
First of all when Jesus was using an illustration to tell the Pharisees how evil they are in keeping the treasure of God's word and leaving the common Jews to feed on their leftovers spiritually Jesus called the Pharisees (rich man) and the common Jews (Lazarus) according to that illustration Lazarus had sours all over his body (God's disapproval) while the dogs {pagan nations) were leaking the sours (taking advantage of Jewish rejection) Luke 16:19-21
The point i want us to borrow from that illustration is where the rich man begged father Abraham (God) to send Lazarus from the dead to his brothers (God should always speak in a supernatural way to tell everyone the real believers) so Abraham answered that if the rich man's brothers failed to believe Moses and the prophets (God's inspired word) then they won't believe even though voices comes from heaven!
According to the final part of that illustration Moses and the prophets means the old Testament so when Jesus now said there are two prophets that are tormenting people all over the earth it means the Old Testament was in the hands of first century Christians and their own testimonies which makes it two edged sword! Hebrews 4:12

As for Enoch and Elijah both of them died because Jesus said no man has been to heaven except himself who came down from heaven {John 3:13} and moreover God's word revealed that all humans were born sinners {Romans 3:23; 5:12 compare to Psalms 51:5} so as sinners Enoch and Elijah must have died but the Bible remain silent about how they died!🙂

Uptheante:
I really enjoyed your analysis, just one last point.

With regards to the 2 prophets mentioned in the book of Revelations, I read a documentary some years ago that referred to them as Moses & Elijah. Others say they could be Enoch & Elijah
It said that Moses & Elijah will return as those 2 prophets to lead the revival & preach pple to Christ before the antichrist will finally kill them.
Remember that Elijah didn't die, he was taken alive to heaven by chariots of fire. If it was Enoch & Elijah as some have posited, it could also be because Enoch also didn't experience death, but was taken alive to heaven.

But from your analysis, you could be right. Nobody really understands the book of Revelations enough to make accurate interpretation of all the revelations therein.

Kudos bro. 👍

You don't understand this thing but if you are sincerely interested let me know!🙂

The mark has been out few decades ago but it's forcefulness is gradually turning to a global case. That mark is POLITICS.

Have you noticed that you can't become a billionaire if you don't have anything to do with the government?
You can only become a billionaire once you start getting one contract or another from the government and you must belong to a party even though the masses may not know it yet.
So talk of the mark billions around the world has taken it unknowingly thinking they are just doing the normal thing while Satan's agents in false religion are compelling them to take the Mark!

As for Israel it's no longer that nation bearing the name today rather it means true religion will go into exile which has happened and pure worship has now been restored.

Do you read about two prophets killed in the Bible book of Revelations 11?

Well it simply means the Bible was rendered inactive for centuries the two prophets are the Old and New Testament. Satan made it difficult for people to understand the message found in these two sections but in the last few decades millions around the world have come to get the sense and now living according to Bible message so they are fulfilling what is written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4.

God bless you and may you have peace!

Uptheante:
If the tribulation has already started decades ago as you have stated, that means there will reach a point in this current dispensation when everybody will be forced to take the mark of the beast if he or she must buy or sell, right?

Also, that implies that in this same current dispensation, a point will reach when Israel will be deceived by the antichrist into a peace treaty that will guarantee them peace with all their current enemies. Then they will rebuild the temple under the deceit of the antichrist & in the middle of the 7 years tribulation, the antichrist will demand to be worshipped like God in the temple of Jerusalem.
And that's when they will realize that he's a devil incarnate.

The number of years for the tribulation is given as 7 years , & unless God shortens the tribulation period, no human will be saved (all life will be destroyed) by the antichrist & his demons.

If the tribulation has been going on for decades, are you implying that the 7 years given by the bible is probably just allegorical ?

Uptheante:
But rapture will still occur before the great tribulation by the antichrist right?
And secondly, every corner of the world must hear the gospel before judgment will come right?

"RAPTURE" is wrong scripturally there is taking away of born again Christians but calling it rapture isn't in line with what the Bible teaches.

Surely after the taking away of the born again Christians who are sleeping in death the tribulation will occur and it has started several decades ago in fact that's what we are facing presently.

The judgment is destruction of ungodly people and it will be unjust to kill them when they haven't heard the Good News of God's Kingdom.

This guy had the intention of starting his own church business but most people may not see it.
Initially he was with Kumuyi but realized that there is no chance of becoming popular in Kumuyi's church so he decided to leave for Adeboye church where people will know and recognize him that's when he told Adeboye that Kumuyi said Adeboye is teaching heresy and after becoming famous through Adeboye church he decided to start his own then he said Adeboye laid a curse on him.
Gullible people may be carried away with their stories but if you look critically into the matter you will see that they are not believers in Christ rather they're all worshipers of Mammon seeking worldly riches! Matthew 6:24

AntiChristian:
Grandpa you are dubious sir! In Numbers 31:17-18, have you forgotten a similar genocide happened where only female virgins were spared for the warriors same was as Chibok girls?
You guys are incorrigible with excuses!

You only need to ask sincere questions.

The case totally differs here because in the case of Midianites a false prophet named Balaam advised the Midianite king to gather their girls and use them as baits to make Israelite men commit fornication and adultery which led many Israelites into idolatry and died in their thousands. So when God said they should keep the young virgins who has never had sex before it's clear that these young virgins weren't part of those used as baits.
Today those Islamists are killing people who never had anything to do with them or their god and moreover there is no specific place they want to settle rather they are going from place to place killing people for their god something you of all people should be able to see clearly if truly you are sincere!🤔

Uptheante:
Will there be a great revival before the tribulation or during the tribulation?

The true revival started 111 years ago when Jesus was given the kingship and he started ruling as king in heaven.
From that time till now he's been working vigorously to separate true believers from deceivers!🙂

Going by the Greek word mistranslated "COMING" the correct rendering is "PRESENCE" meaning when Jesus begins his kingdom rule in heaven of course he will resurrect dead anointed Christians immediately and take them to heaven {1Thessalonians 4:16-17} as his corulers {Revelations 20:5-6} and their presence in heaven will prove humans could be loyal, obedient and faithful despite their imperfect state which now juatifies the driving away of rebellious angels {1Corinthans 6:3 compare to Revelations 12:7-12} who were perfect yet became disloyal, disobedient and unfaithful {1Peter 3:19-20} after a long time God excommunicate them so that they were in spiritual darkness not knowing God's plan to justify their eternal punishment. 2Peter 2:4; Jude 1:6

Today it's now 111 years since Jesus was given the kingship in heaven and ever since them himself and his corulers has been working vigorously to separate pure worship from falsehood {Matthew 25:31-33} before then humans claiming Christians were in support of politics and joining in the army which led to killing their fellow believers in other places something that's totally unchristian but since the year 1914 true believers began diligent study of the scriptures to the point of diverting their resources into production of food and information materials, stopping the production, buying, selling and using of weapons then they vowed never to raise weapons against anyone! Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3 compare to Matthew 26:52

So many changes has happened since 1914 until now showing that Jesus has started ruling in heaven and has taken away dead anointed (born again) Christians!

FxMasterz:
Thanks very much.
We are waiting for their answers.

Muslims don't have any answer to those questions they just feel like quoting the Bible in support of their religion the principle behind what we found written in the Bible they don't know neither do they care!😟

AntiChristian:
What sin did the animals too committed? Did they also attacked them grandpa? We haven't even talked about the women and infants who should ordinarily be innocent in a Jehovah's Jihad!

Wiping out everything should remind us that God doesn't want it to be like bandits who has come to steal after the killing so whoever saw the slaughter will know that Israelites weren't armed robbers.
As for the women and children they will look for ways to revenge in the future after all they won't reason that it's due to what their people did to Israelites in the past and it did happened later that an Amalekite who survived that slaughter tried to wipe out the Jews in the days of Esther!😟

I never saw this in the first place because there is no way anyone can justify the existence of Allah if they fail to answer this questions!

FxMasterz:
1. What covenant does Allah have with the world to issue laws of death against those that have no relationship with him?

2. How has he revealed himself to people before forcing his worship upon them?

3. Why does he want you to end people's lives just because they rejected him, is it because he doesn't have the power to cast them to hell?

4. What great things has Allah done for anybody to deserve forced worship?

5. Who is attacking the Muslims for Allah to tell you to use your Boko Haram spirit against others?

The Amalekites ambushed Israelites on their way to the promised land which is an act against the initiator of pure worship Himself. So God commanded the Israelites to wipe out Amalek from the surface of the earth because by that time the Israelites were the people God was using as His people and there was no other nation serving the true God.

The order to killing disobedient Israelites is the constitution of the nation which does not apply to anyone outside Israel God gave them laws therefore if anyone among them is not pleased with the laws there are countries or nations that such a person can go to live with unbelievers but in the case of Islamists there is no law biding them with the people they are going to attack unlike the Israelites who vowed to do all that their God commanded them! Deuteronomy 28:1-68

AntiChristian:
Stop telling lies! In the Bible God did command such many times!

This is what the LORD of Hosts says: ‘I witnessed what the Amalekites did to the Israelites when they ambushed them on their way up from Egypt. Now go and attack the Amalekites and devote to destruction all that belongs to them. Do not spare them, but put to death men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” 1 Samuel 15:2-3

Someone might try to lead you to serve other gods—it might be your brother, your son or daughter, the wife you love, or a close friend. The person might say, “Let’s go and worship other gods.” (These are gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the people who live around you, either nearby or far away, from one end of the land to the other.) Do not give in to such people. Do not listen or feel sorry for them, and do not let them go free or protect them. You must put them to death. You must be the first one to start to kill them, and then everyone else must join in. You must throw stones at them until they die, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, where you were slaves. 11 Then everyone in Israel will hear about this and be afraid, and no one among you will ever do such an evil thing again. Deuteronomy 13: 6-11

The above Deuteronomy verse continues with a command to destroy cities just like Boko Haram and Israel is doing! Change your name to lieMasterz!

Kill People Who Don’t Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals
“If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)

2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

blueAgent:
It's obvious that the Jews wanted to stone Jesus because he said he was one with God.

One with God means whatever he says is from God so there is no need arguing claiming they understand the scriptures.

That's what irritated them because Jesus is saying God approves his interpretation of scriptures.

blueAgent:
How is he inferior?
Are you inferior to your Father?

Wahala Yaaaso!🙂

See the dictionary meaning of inferior!

A person of lower rank, stature, or ability to another.

You heard me say to you, ‘I am leaving, but I will come back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be happy that I am going back to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am. John 14:28

SpencerForbes:
But why do they preach it in church, does that means they clearly wants to deceive the masses for gains because this preachers give their members false hope and you’re wondering, why

"A wicked and adulterous generation keeps seeking a sign, but no sign will be given it except the sign of Joʹnah.” Matthew 16:4

So they are a wicked and adulterous generation deceiving themselves when true Christians comes around to tell them the truth they will insult and label us as evildoers.

God will not change His program due to the wrong expectations of unbelievers claiming Christians. The only reason why God performs miracles is to impress in the in minds of His worshipers the hope of things to come but as for people of the nations it's what faithful Israelites says that we must believe not expecting God to perform it in our eyes! Zechariah 8:23

Apart from Israelites God never promise any other nation miracles it's only in the midst of Israelites that God performed or give people to perform miracles.

After pure worship (Christianity) was rejected by the inhabitants of Israel God abandoned the nation of Israel so miracles can't be predicted or expected to happen because we are worshiping Him!

So what is the essence of miracles found recorded in the Bible?

God only wants us to know that whatever He promised us will be made possible in God's Kingdom!

Out of several dictionary definitions of the word "SELL" you will find this:

"To let down one's own team in an endeavour."

Each human has become an investment for those depending on him or her so whatever we are doing for a living surely has a lot to do with people around us since it's impossible to consume all our earnings alone we build business empires and employ many to join the working force hence our net worth in life.
So when Jesus told the rich man to sell everything he has and give to the poor he is telling him to strip off his net worth and become a common citizen of little or no value in the eyes of men but worth more than an emperor in God's eyes. Luke 18:22

With that this man will become an ordinary citizen of no value in the eyes of many then he could start moving from house to house preaching the Kingdom of God in all his neighborhood.

Of course what Jesus asked him is not a must for all his disciples because Jesus actually has two flock of sheep his main focus back then is the first flock which comprises of those to be anointed along with him as his corulers so most of his statements was centered on this first flock! John 10:16

The man may later join Jesus' disciples but then he can only become part of the second flock of sheep.

Nicodemus was a ruler among the Jews as a member of the Jewish High Court his intention was to become a coruler with the Christ so from the top directly to the top again that's why Jesus told him the seats belongs only to BORN AGAIN believers! John 3:3-5

A Born Again Christian is someone who has been anointed with God's holy spirit therefore such a person has been marked as a future coruler with Christ in heaven. Nicodemus wanted to rule with the Christ but then he needs to let go of his political seat among the Pharisees and get baptized in water before everyone as a disciple of Jesus so that by the time God anoints the first flock {Act 2:1-4} he could be among them since he has been born of WATER and later of the SPIRIT! John 3:5

Janosky:

"Was theos " is the same Greek grammatical construct (last word) in John 1:1 & Acts 28:6.
"was a god" is the correct rendition in both verses.
Small letter "god" is the correct rendition of John 10:33.
Screenshot evidences.
Oga,stop deceiving yourself.

He has ran away from me for over four years but now decided to come back as if he just got the liver to used scriptures!🙂

KobolanderSegun:
All this one is too much for me to understand.... I haven't been to church since 2000. Can't see the point in going. After all God is Everywhere.

If you have a tangible reason you will go so it's because you can't see anything worthwhile in the churches that's why you don't feel like going to church.

KobolanderSegun:
Jesus used to criticize the Pharisees right left and center.

Jesus criticized people who claimed they are worshiping his God but not producing the FRUIT expected of worshipers of his God.
So instead of shouting "Jesus is Lord" up and down it's better believers in Christ should criticize any group claiming they are believers in Christ but not producing the FRUIT of faith!🤔

When talking about violence it does not start in a day that's why Jesus sent his disciples to speak with people in their homes {Matthew 10:11-13} not standing in the corners of the streets shouting at passersby {Matthew 12:19} telling them your God will roast them forever because they are not members of your religion!😟

Today most so called Christians believe in the shouting in the streets, radio or TV shows for preaching instead of welcoming or going to visit their neighbors at home just as Jesus commanded his own disciples.

So in a society where they already have their own religious beliefs going to their streets or shouting from a building you call "church" to condemn their religion will surely lead to counter attack on you.

KobolanderSegun:
You should be the CAN President.

My religion doesn't have any business with CAN because the different religions that formed CAN aren't after what Bible teaches rather each is after gathering followers to enrich themselves so even though the tradition is obviously paganism they will not come out openly to speak against it instead each religious leader will be telling his own followers in secret.
So i can never ever be a member of CAN!😟

KobolanderSegun:
The Use of Fireworks and Banga in residential areas across Nigeria and Around the World to celebrate Christmas and New Year should be called Acts of Terror.
I'm a Christian, but this is not Christianity, this is Violence, dangerous and terrorism.

The celebration of Christmas and New Year doesn't originate from Christians rather these are pagan traditions which came along with hooliganism.

So if these traditions aren't biblical you can't expect celebrators of these things to act like Christians. We all know where paganism stems from which is Satanism and no fine fruit can come out of Satan and his demons. Matthew 7:16-18 compare to 2Corinthians 6:14🤔

Work towards equity and keep thinking about others as if you are in their shoes, you are not special in any way other than being a human so whatever good you think towards yourself remember others deserve the same! Matthew 7:12

That's what makes you different from WICKED people!🙂

blueAgent:
Dey fool yourself.
It would be too late on the last day, when you would realise that you have been fooling yourself all this while.

You've typed that several times but then it's making no practical sense!🙂

When you wake up in the morning and the first thing that comes into your mind is the thought of how your fellowman should die because you feel he is making life unbearable for you of course it sounds logical after all nobody wants to suffer.
Then you should ask yourself:

What exactly do i want God to do for me regarding the person i hate?
Do i wish this person dead because he's not worthy to be among the living?
What would i have done if i found myself in his shoes?
Would i have performed better than he's doing now?
Will i be contented if everyone should be equal materially speaking so that no one serves another?
Or am i expecting my own turn to oppress others just as i've been oppressed?

These are questions a person with a pure heart will ask himself!🙂

Offpoint1:
😂 You fear God or you're scare of hell? There's a thin line between the two

Godly fear totally differs from what these people think. It's like loosing some kind of friendship that you treasure with all your heart {Mark 12:30} whoever has that type of relationship with God is not scared of any punishment rather such a person is scared of loosing the best friend anyone could have.
God only wants good life for His children but whoever feels he or she could get a better life outside God's arrangement will be left alone to figure it out if such a thing is possible so if by the end of the day such a person perished he or she is on his own and there is nothing to expect from God.
Whoever chooses to do things his own way and after God has given him the liberty to go and see if it's possible but turned around to start fighting with God's friends has drawn the battle line because God will not allow such a person to destroy pure worship.
There is only one thing called Hell and it means Grave a place of inactivity only those who have no love for God ends there! Psalms 9:17
There is no torment of any kind there as death is the only punishment God has for evildoers {Genesis 2:17} and at death the evildoer has fully paid for all his wickedness so God has no business with him again! Romans 6:7

So the cries of a dying man is evidence of your Hellfire sheet.

Well it's not your fault may God help you!🙂

mauriceju2:
THE CRIES OF UNBELIERS BEFORE DEATH

This is what the greatest atheists said shortly before death: “O God, how much I have sinned”!

Nothing attracts as much attention as the testimony of a dying man. The moment of death reveals a man’s true face and the state of his heart.

Cesare Borgia (Italian politician, 1475-1507): “In life, I was preparing for everything but death, and now I am dying and I am not ready for it.”

Thomas Hobbes (English philosopher, 1588-1679), said: I will soon be cast into darkness, and if I had the whole world at my disposal at the moment, I would give it to you to buy only one day life”.

Thomas Paine (an 18th-century American political activist and revolutionary who declared himself an atheist) said at death: “Please do not leave me alone! O my Lord, what did I do wrong ?! I do not deserve this. I would give the whole world and more to get rid of this torture. Do not leave me alone! If you would leave at least one child with me. “I am on the brink of hell, I worked for Satan.”

Sir Thomas Scott (English politician, 1535-1594) said while dying: “I did not believe in the existence of God and hell until a few moments ago, but now I feel that these are indisputable truths. Now I am on the brink of hell and that is divine justice. “

Voltaire (French philosopher and atheist, 1694-1778), addressing his doctor, said: “God and men have neglected me. I will give you half of what I own if you keep me alive for six months. I’m dead and I’ll go to hell! “

The nurse who cared for Voltaire: “If they were to give me all the wealth of Europe, I would not want to see a traitor like him. “He cried all night praying for forgiveness.”

Napoleon Bonaparte: “Here I am, dying some time ago and returning to the womb of the earth, and I am the greatest emperor. “There is a big difference between the abyss into which I fall and the eternal paradise.”

Francis Newport (English politician, 1620-1708), said to those around his bed at the time of his death: “Do not tell me that there is no God, I feel His presence now and do not tell me that there is no hell, because right now I have the feeling that I am slipping into it ”.

David Strauss (German Protestant philosopher and writer, 1808-1874): “Philosophy has failed me and I feel like I am in the jaw of a machine that has teeth and I do not know at what point it will quarrel with me.”

In an interview with US Newsweek, Svetlana Stalin, the daughter of Russian communist dictator Joseph Stalin, spoke of the moment her father died, saying: “My father’s death was horrific. At the moment of his death, he suddenly opened his eyes and looked at those present with crazy and angry eyes, showing something with his left hand hovering over us. It was a vanguard gesture and shows and then he died.

zinaunreal:
Oga slide make we dey see wetin dey front.

This is not what you can see physically just as you are not seeing the people you are chatting with!🙂

Today RUSSIA and UKRAINE are at war not due to different languages but one side is supporting Vladimir Putin while the other is supporting Volodymyr Zelenskyy over who should rule over them. Meanwhile the two men are safe with their families whereas their subjects are fighting and killing themselves.

That is what Satan wants people to do! Revelations 6:3-4

Whether the person is from the East, West, North or South nothing is going to change unless we all agree to pay all citizens the same amount of money for serving the nation but 99.999999% of you people will object to that yet you will continue criticizing anyone that's there and claiming his or her tribe is your problem!🙂

Xox1945:
Yoruba man and tribalism is something else very funny people no matter how educated they are.

See what politics is causing you now tag your neighbor tribalists due to POLITICS.

Soon you will be compelled to support in fighting and killing them due to politics!🙂