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What did Jesus commanded his disciples to do when they see all these things happening?🙂

PROPHETmichael:
Oga kindly answer my question, YES or NO (NO long talk).

1. Do you LEAP FOR JOY when government increases fuel price?

2. Do you LEAP FOR JOY and pay whatever price market sellers demand with a smile without pricing them?

3. Do you LEAP FOR JOY when your electricity or water bills suddenly spike?

4. Do you LEAP FOR JOY when taxes or levies are increased without improvement in services?

5. Do you LEAP FOR JOY when you see corruption scandals in government?

6. Do you LEAP FOR JOY when essential goods like rice, beans, or bread become more expensive?

7. Do you LEAP FOR JOY when public hospitals fail to provide basic healthcare?

8. Do you LEAP FOR JOY when schools charge outrageous fees with no quality education?

9. Do you LEAP FOR JOY when your salary is delayed or unpaid?


Remember...Yes or No....no long talk.

PROPHETmichael:
I just hope you don’t complain about hardship, fuel prices, or the high cost of living because if you do, that would make you a hypocrite. You can’t stay silent about injustice and then turn around to suffer from the same system you refuse to speak against.

Globally it's the same the differences are due to people involved but as for high cost of living that's what God's word says will be the sign of endtime:


But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here.  For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness,  betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God,  having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away. 2Timothy 3:1-5

Your concerns are real but then you need to know that believers in Christ are to TURN AWAY from such issues because whatever we say will be held against us as supporters of one party against the other in their struggle.

Remember that each politician claims he or she is coming to solve or ease people's suffering!😟

zinaunreal:
If you cannot state one sin that devil committed quit the caps

Of course Satan is the greatest of all sinners but it's difficult for misinformed churchgoers to point out!🙂

PROPHETmichael:
When we speak against corruption, bloodshed, or oppression, we’re not promoting a political party; we’re declaring that every throne on earth is answerable to the throne of Heaven.

True Christians have a duty which is to preach and teach about God's Kingdom so when we see corruption, bloodshed and oppression we don't start talking about these things rather we leap for joy {Luke 21:28} because we know that these are signs Jesus foretold regarding the end of this system of things! Matthew 24:7-14 compare to 2Timothy 3:1-5
But why shouldn't we intervene?
Satan's trick is simple voices that are raised against the ongoing killing will be viewed as criticism against one human government in favor of another so whether you like it or not your so called fellow worshipers will call you opposition to the ruling party just as you are seeing now.
That's why true Christians don't say anything about what Satan and his agents are doing rather we focus on the preaching and teaching of God's Kingdom.
If you check yourself very well you will notice that in the past you've been supporting one candidate in the ongoing political struggle instead of remaining neutral.
Check my profile and see if i or any other member of Jehovah's Witnesses have been on the politics section whereas that's the section most people claiming believers do go to speak in support or against someone who is struggling for a political position.

I know this will shock you but that's what makes us unique as true believers in the kingdom of God!

PROPHETmichael:
Jesus and the Apostles didn’t campaign for any earthly ruler because right from birth, Jesus was already known and referred to as The King of the Jews, so there was no need to campaign.

So when did followers of Christ who are preaching about his everlasting rule now start preaching (campaigning) for human government?

YourGFsnatcher:
Toh! This sounds better

NO it's the truth.

God told Adam that if he rebel against God's arrangement Adam will die. Genesis 2:17
Satan told Eve that God is lying because they cannot die! Genesis 3:4

What is death?
Death according to dictionary means a state of inactivity or lifelessness.

So the idea of torment after death is like supporting Satan's opinion whereas at death the creature returns to lifelessness! Ecclesiastes 9:4-10🤔

larryUG:
You have said it all. It is all about who is in government. Kudos. It is clear that the only pastors who don't see the Genocide are from the SW region (Femi Laz, Wale Adefarasin and Co), because Tinubu is in government. Well done. Ezekiel Dachomo and Isa El Buba are Igbos. Well done sir. Paul Enenche is an Igbo man. All these men would have kept quiet if Peter Obi was president.

Politics is Satan's trick to get everyone involved in the killing of their neighbors {Revelations 6:3-4} but Jesus came to break the works of Satan {1John 3:8} by teaching his disciples never to support politics {John 17:14-16} or raise weapon against anyone for the sake of right or wrong! Matthew 26:52
Satan painted politics to look like someone or some people are cheating others so to fight for your right you will join the movement against such a ruler.
Jesus taught his disciples that their own government is no part of this world so they should continue praying for God's Kingdom to come and solve all mankind's problems! Matthew 6:10
So with politics those claiming Christians are now hating one another yet they are supposed to preach the government of God! Matthew 10:7
What a pity?
But Jesus has separated his fine seeds from among the weeds so that true Christianity has become obvious to honest hearted and sincere observers! Matthew 13:24-30

The Bible God never said He will torment living creatures because such a thing irritates Him {Jeremiah 7:31} His intention is to give life not punishment so if anyone proves unworthy of the free gift of life what the Bible God promised His loyal servants is such unworthy ones will be removed from among the living and sent to a place where they will become lifeless! Genesis 2:17

What Churchgoers are misconstruing is the parable Jesus used to tell wicked Jewish religious leaders in the first century how they will loose out completely in God's promises of eternal life!

YourGFsnatcher:
So your god will create a place like that because you didn't do what he said? Will your parents burn your hand because you disobeyed them? Then why will your god that is all loving prepare this kind of punishment because you had sex or smoked weed or drank alcohol? Does it mean your parents love is greater than your gods love? I use small g because the God I know, will NEVER have in his mind this wicked plan.

Just quote where Jesus or his Apostles talked about who should be supported as King in the first century!🙂

PROPHETmichael:
Wow. That’s a lot of words just to say you’ve mistaken cowardice for holiness. You sound proud of sitting on the sidelines while pretending it’s righteousness. “We don’t get involved because it’s Satan’s world”? Please. That’s not spiritual wisdom, that’s just fear disguising as righteousness.

Jesus said, “You are the light of the world” (Matt 5:14), and the last time I checked, light doesn’t withdraw from darkness; it shines in it. Abi your own light dey withdraw from darkness?

If evil runs politics, it’s because too many people like you decided it’s easier to quote scripture than to stand for something. Jesus didn’t avoid conflict, He flipped tables and called out hypocrisy. You, on the other hand, are busy preaching detachment while the world burns and then acting proud about being “uninvolved.” Oh pls!!!

So spare everyone the self-righteous lecture. Neutrality in the face of evil isn’t holiness, it’s compliance.

John the Baptist confronted Herod for injustice; that was a political act rooted in righteousness, not partisanship. Jesus didn’t rebuke John for that; He called him the greatest born of women (Matt 11:11).

The early Church didn’t run from evil; they challenged it with truth, love, and courage. Saying “don’t talk about injustice because it’s political” is exactly how evil continues unchallenged.

We are called to preach the Kingdom of God yes but that Kingdom also demands justice, mercy, and truth on the earth. Silence in the face of bloodshed doesn’t make us spiritual; it makes us complicit.

So no, this isn’t about being “political.” It’s about being Christlike enough to care when others suffer and Femi Lazarus have failed in that regard because of 30 pieces of silver given to him by APC. abi u collect your own too?

blueAgent:
Yet to prove anything, why Jesus is denoted with capital G,in that verse.

Churchian interpretation!🙂

blueAgent:
Meaningless rant.
Disprove that Jesus is not the literal Son of GOD. I have provided enough evidence.

The word "LITERAL SON" no dey inside Bible so it's your own personal opinion!😂

blueAgent:
Keep fooling yourself.

By the end of the day all your gra gra to mention my name and the name of my church is just to say:
"Keep following yourself"
After four years that you've ran away from me!😂

blueAgent:
Keep fooling yourself.
Was Moses not referred to god with small letter g, compared to Jesus been referred to God with capital letter?

Guy nah Churchians like you do that one in the Bible the title is the same only the name differs.
Worshipers of Ra, Moleck, Zeus and Jupiter doesn't refer to their Gods with small letters o!🙂

blueAgent:
The most important is to understand that Jesus is God in nature.

Just as Moses is God shey? Exodus 7:1🙂

blueAgent:
An yet he schooled you better in bible things, than you that claim(imposter) that Jesus appointed you.

Funny Churchian!

What is the name of his church nah?😂

True Christians you have seen and our activities known globally {Act 1:8} but a funny Churchian who doesn't believe in association of fellow believers is your teacher shey?😂

blueAgent:
You don take idea run, because the guy dey bombarded you with questions way you no fit answer.

It's obvious you don't know what to say rather you are seeking support from your fellow confused Churchians.

Sebi you mentioned my name and the name of my church. Oya mention the name of your own church too so that it remains only you and i nah!😂

Person wey no believe Bible nah him you dey follow shey?

Go to his threads and see how he's been questioning the Bible itself!😂

blueAgent:
No where Jesus been the Literal son of God equates to him been equal with God.

So in a nutshell Jesus' father is our father and Jesus' God is our God which makes us his brothers! John 20:17
Is that what you are saying?

mauriceju2:
PARABLE is spiritual realliality explain with drama or pictures to enable man understand what is happening in the spiritual realm.

Who cares what you are here to do?

If you don't know what a parable is you need to be told.

A parable is an illustration that should be interpreted for instance in the parable who is the rich man, Lazarus, the sour on his leg, the dogs that's coming to lick it, Abraham, rich man's brother, Moses and the prophets?

What did the rich man do to warrant his punishment and what did Lazarus do to be favored?

If you can't interpret any of these then know that you're only looking at the abstract view of the parable you know nothing about what Jesus said!

PROPHETmichael:
When people are being killed and others look away, that’s not spirituality, that’s indifference. True Christianity doesn’t close its eyes to injustice and call it peace. Speaking up for the suffering is not being “engulfed in politics,” it’s following the example of Jesus, who confronted both religious and political hypocrisy in His time. If Satan blinds people today, it’s often by making them believe silence is holiness and neutrality is love. But love tells the truth, even when it’s uncomfortable.

Are you a Christian?

Jesus said:

"A good man brings good out of the good treasure of his heart, but a wicked man brings what is wicked out of his wicked treasure; for out of the heart’s abundance his mouth speaks" Luke 6:45

Please check your profile and tell me the section in which you are most active on this forum?
Your mind is fixed on POLITICS and not on preaching the Kingdom of God.
Was Jesus aware of John the baptist being imprisoned?
Was he aware that John was murdered for preaching righteousness?
What did Jesus have to say about it?

For your information politics always come with killing so all those getting involved in politics will face the music and that's what is happening true Christians don't complain about politics neither do we support any side against another in fact we don't even have one single member globally who is in any political position so they don't count us to be of any threat to them. As long as you people keep meddling in politics they will also respond through terrorism and don't come crying that they are fighting you due to your faith NO they are not fighting you because of your faith rather it's because you people are interfering in what belongs to Satan and his agents: rulership of the present world! Luke 4:5-7; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19

Kdon2:
All because he didn't say your truth. How about your truth is not his truth? How many ibo pastors have spoken publicly about it. Must femi Lazarus say what you want to hear even if your bias is as obvious as daylight. If Peter obi was in government today, (God forbid) I m sure you won't be writing this. Shalom

This is how Satan blindfolds people who are claiming Christians when they don't even know anything about Christ.

When people are so engulfed in political affairs surely they will hate one another!😟

mauriceju2:
The devil say there is no hell but Jesus said there is hell

Luke 16:22-26 (KJV) And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

Parable Jesus used has now become the evidence for Hellfire shey?

Na wah o!

Abeg wetin bring DOGHEAD into the matter now?😟

Janosky:
@ Ephesians 3:19Paul is teaching you

"to know this love (of Christ) that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God"
God gives to believers the fullness of God that God gave to Jesus @ Colossians 1:19 & 2:9.

Greek Theotes meaning divine nature/divine quality.
Greek Theotes is NOT Godhead, not Deity.
Please go and study Greek Bible lexicon thoroughly & stop deceiving yourself.



Jesus teaching in John 17:22-23 conflicts with your claim on John 10:30.
Jesus said God his Senior (Father),the disciples, & Jesus are one.
@ John 14:24,28 is conflicting with your claim about John 14:9.
You are insinuating that Jesus is the Father whereas Jesus debunks your claim when he said that he was sent to speak his Father's words. John 14:24.
Also , God his Senior (Father) is greater than Jesus. Verse 28.

Janosky:
Oga,Use Greek bible lexicon meaning & stop typing what you can't prove.
Greek gennao meaning beget,begotten, born, give birth,MAKE,produce,
IS DIFFERENT from
Greek monogenes meaning ONLY BORN / ONLY BEGOTTEN.
Greek genes comes from gennao.....

Screenshots evidences
Oga Tctrills, pls grow up.....

I don comot that guy for my diary tey tey anything he types is no go area for me if he like let him quote and mention me one million times to me he no longer exist!🙂

PROPHETmichael:
Moreover, for one to even carry the title of an apostle by biblical standard, such a person must have proven record healing the sick. I have never seen or come across such videos from this APC apointed apostle called Femi Lazarus.

Christians shouldn't intervene in politics at all so they must lay low no matter what is happening in the political affairs in their environs because their government is no part of this world! John 17:14-16

Whatever makes anyone support one side against another in politics it means such a person is no longer neutral and has betrayed faith in Christ!😟

ngmgeek:
Share the clear picture for us instead of waiting for others. Yours is an expired tactic ok

You don't have to be aggressive this thing involves lives of people around you!😟

BibleInterpreta:
❖ Jehovah’s Witnesses

Another striking example is the Jehovah’s Witnesses, a group often cited in discussions of high-control religious environments. Members are taught that leaving the organization equates to abandoning God, resulting in automatic shunning by family and friends—

Please interpret these Bible verses to the best of your understanding:

Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them. Romans 16:17

As for a man who promotes a sect, reject him after a first and a second admonition. Titus 3:10

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. 2John :10

Please why are Jesus' disciples promoting shunning? 🤔

Bible study with only Kumuyi so there is no member of your church who is adequately qualified to teach except this man shey?
What blinded you people to this extent?
Yet you will start criticizing a global group claiming they are wrong but only Kumuyi is right with no member of his church able to teach like him.
What proof is there that Kumuyi is not your god?😟

[quote author=Janosky post=137428109][/quote]I just ignore that one pátápátá since he's not ready to stay in one place other than running around claiming self righteousness!🙂

Janosky:
Let me use your term "pre-incarnate" & "incarnate."
Jesus left his preincarnate life & began his incarnate life where he died.
He died faithful to his God when he resurrected to his preincarnate life.
If he became rebellious during his incarnate life,he would have lost immortality forever.
1 Peter 3:18. Hebrew 5:7-8.

This is what Satan is using to blindfold all of them!

They thought Jesus is the same person who surrendered himself to test himself by himself and later approved himself by himself so there is no reason why integrity matters after all God was only playing hide and seek.

But if they realize that Jesus could have lost and loose everything just as Satan planned for him it will help them because i don't understand how someone could use his or her brain to be advocating such senselessness!😟

Janosky:
Jehovah gave Jesus immortal life after Jesus resurrection. That he died for 3 days proves he was not immortal every second his life.

He ran away from me since the first time i wanted to correct his views on scriptural topics so i let him be but now he decided to come back as if he has gotten the liver!🙂

See evidence below since 4 years ago!

lawani:
God will not punish you for not learning divination. It is like not learning a new language. You can't be punished for it but you will miss out on some things

Miss out on some things yet you are here always calling for mass action against other schools of thought.

Guy abeg stop deceiving yourself!😂

ngmgeek:
Can't you look for the purpose?
Are you blind?

Try to explain the purpose of CAN and her connection with those in political seats perhaps you will see the clear picture!🤔