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blueAgent:
Let me Educate you and other JW.

Go and educate your church people let them come out in mass to do what JWs are doing globally {Matthew 10:11-13} before you can start blabbing not when you are not in agreement with any of your church people on how to carry out the assignment Jesus gave his disciples!

blueAgent:
Angels are sons of GOD by creation and it stopped there.
They have nothing personnel with GOD, they have no attributes or image or glory or nature or form of GOD which only JESUS has.

All the angels including Jesus are children of God what the Bible is saying is that Jesus always imitate his father {John 5:19} that's what makes him different from all the others! 🙂

blueAgent:
Wow!!!! This is the height of ignorance.
Who made them Man and Woman?
JW or GOD?
What if GOD decided to create only women with the capacity to solely conceive and bear Children?
Is it written anywhere that Children can only be conceived by a Man and woman mating, If God has not designated it so?
Is God bounded by Human capacity or inabilities?

Guy literal according to the dictionary means reproduction if that's what you are talking about then all creatures are literal children of God because God brought all of them through CREATION!

Bible study with Kumuyi! Matthew 7:16-18🤔

OLAADEGBU:
If you claim ownership to that name why complain?



After all The Lord Jesus Christ called king Herod an old fox, the Pharisees white sepulchres and if we call you mad max we are not saying anything out of line.



You cannot send us down a guilty trip since that is what your father, Satan is used to doing to the children of God; for there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. Ko le werk.

OLAADEGBU:
My post was to mad max and his lover, do you answer to mad max?

As a believer in Christ do you call people "MAD"?
Is that what Jesus taught you?

Yes i actually checked this thread when i noticed Yemaya consistently quoting you to know what he's saying and your friends often call me "mad Max" for my faith:

johnw47:
lost false jw mad max
you will be judged by Jehovah Whose word you do not believe:
Luk 6:26  "Woe to you when all men speak well of you, for their fathers used to treat the false prophets in the same way. 
Pro 16:5  Everyone who is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD;

So don't add to your sin by lying there's no other person you are talking about but me!

You need to conquer the addiction of POLITICS!

POLITICS is the worstest type of addiction most people don't know, it's really poisonous and it chokes the love Christ implanted in the minds of people who are following him.
Addiction to politics will start developing hatred in you for your fellow neighbors and the worst of it is the way you will hate your fellow believers in Christ all because of politics!
So pray hard so as to overcome the trick Satan is using to sow hatred among the unbelievers {2Corinthians 4:4} so you may prove to be a real disciples of Christ as you love your neighbor as yourself {Mark 12:31} and love your fellow believers the way Christ Jesus loves you! John 13:34-35

God bless you and may you have peace!

Their problem is TRINITY DOGHEAD with that in their minds nothing reasonable is going to come out of them.
Just believe that Jesus created himself and he has no father but himself and all will sound good to them!

Janosky:
Psalm 2:7, God begotten ( the Father of) David & Solomon (son of God).

God begotten (the Father of) Adam (son of God).
God begotten (the Father of) Jesus Christ. (Son of God).
God begotten (the Father of ) Adam (son of God).
God begotten Israel.
God begotten (the Father of) ALL.

Begotten meaning "the Father of/Father/ became Father".
The screenshot is self explanatory.
Every begoted/ begotten being is a creature.
God is our Father /the Father of Jesus by creation.
This is the truth that most persons feel uncomfortable about on this thread.

This is not rocket science nau.

Janosky:
"Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?"
Compare Psalms 2:7 & Hebrew 1:5. Hebrew 5:5.

They don't study God's word rather they only take up verses their pastors gives them and the next thing is to argue.


God promised to make Jesus His son in that verse because Jesus will prove to be God's Son not due to his origin rather by imitating his father in thoughts, words and actions something nobody has ever achieved both in heaven and on earth.
This shows that Jesus has been with his father for so long that he mastered his father's qualities in a perfect way! John 1:2
That's the reason why God said He will declare Jesus His son and whoever loves to be like Jesus in thoughts, words and actions will also qualify to be God's Son! John 1:11-12
But funny Churchians will only read without meditations yet they want to argue!🙂

Dangote is human who LITERALLY gave birth to children in a PHYSICAL way so he has literal children but God never had a wife whom He impregnate to bear children. So nobody is God's literal son we are all His creations that's what makes Jesus the firstborn! Colossians 1:15

Your stubbornness only shows you have nothing to say other than blind arguments!🙂

blueAgent:
This JW interpretation and its is false just like all the other false predictions you guys made in the past.

Dangote's children can go errands/ messengers for him, it does not make them less his literal Children.

He can appoint them to head his companies, assign offices and responsibilities to them, it still does not change the fact that they are his literal Children.

Try another lie

blueAgent:
You keep talking illogical.
Me begging my Father for something means am not his literal Son?

Funny Churchian!
It makes you inferior to the one you are begging just as Jesus is inferior to God! John 14:28

blueAgent:
Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

Please interpret the above verse.

So are you saying the Job 38:7 is not in your own Bible or the morning stars are not (God's Sons) angels?

Well Paul was addressing Christians who were Hebrews and their religious leaders have taught them to use the names of angels when praying to God like most of your so called Christians are doing today calling holy Michael, holy Gabriel and so on that's why Paul had to tell them that the only name given through which we should approach God in prayer is Jesus {Act 4:12} because that's the one God introduced to us as His only begotten Son. Matthew 17:5

The practical application of what you quoted not that angels and humans are not God's children!🙂

OLAADEGBU:
Mad max, is that you?

Being a Christian is not about following a man that people believe to be religious rather it's doing the best you can do obey Christ Jesus. Matthew 7:24-27
Addressing your neighbor with vulgar speech {Ephesians 4:31;Colossians 3:8} and never being remorseful about it {Titus 2:6} proves you are a disciple of Kumuyi not a Christian.
Surely you deserve what that person is doing for you! Galatians 6:8 compare to Proverbs 14:14; 22:8

May you find peace!

OLAADEGBU:
I can see mad max peeping in as a French vouyager here, could Yemaja be his lover? God can tell.

Whatever you sow is exactly what you will reap!😟

I wanted to quote this person for always cursing you but i choose to be cautious {Matthew 10:16} because i don't really know what might have transpired between the two of you before now {Proverbs 17:27} so i decided to see what exactly is the problem {Ecclesiastes 7:9} but how do you explain what you typed now?

Obviously this post of yours has justified what the poster has been typing since as i've not even typed anything before you began using vulgar speech against me so what Jehovah said is fulfilling in this case:

Jehovah himself will fight for you, and you will keep silent. Exodus 14:14

So upon all your Bible study with Kumuyi this is the fruit of the man's teachings in you. Matthew 7:15-20

Ó mà ṣe ọ!

Jesus can't be God since he is a servant of God so it's reasonable to conclude that he is God's Son as he himself said and since angels are God's sons too Jesus must have been one of them before coming to earth.

Simple. Anything other than this is what could be called going astray from truth!

blueAgent:
No reasonable you said here.

But when you say someone who keeps begging another is the same person he's begging it makes perfect sense shey?

blueAgent:
That's good.
Thank God you did not deny been inferior to your father didn't stop you from been his literal SON?

Literal going by the English dictionary is physical but God has no physical son all of us are His creations that's what makes Jesus the first born! Colossians 1:15

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Funny apostate!

Translation error led to thousands of different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming believers in just one book yet they are fighting and killing themselves over politics and racism and suddenly the light started getting brighter and brighter until an organization is fulfilling what God promised.
But trust Satan's agents they will still find faults even though they can't form a single group to work together yet they will be going about complaining about the fine works of God's organization!🙂

Courz don enter default mode again abeg i get better things to do with my precious time!

What God wanted to achieve through the inspired writings is recorded in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated in the Bible book of Micah 4:1-3


In the last days the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. Many peoples will come and say, “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths.” The law will go out from Zion, the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore. ‭Isaiah 2:2-4 NIV‬



Out of all the religions claiming Christians today only Jehovah's Witnesses Organization produced this FRUIT expected of real adherents of God's word {Matthew 7:16-18} undeniable evidence that it's only their translation that's accurate in meaning otherwise it wouldn't have achieved the success i am pointing out today!

Have you entered your default mode again?😟

I said the errors came due to the work of translators and not the inspired writings so if you still have something tangible to say let me know at least you can see the Awake edition that the Muslim guy was referring to!🙂

Courz:
You were redefining the word Bible to mean something that was compiled by Humans which results in Errors and so therefore the Bible is not inspired of God. You said this was why you JWs created your own separate Bible to correct those errors and this is why the New World Translation is not called a Bible. And because it is not called a Bible, the Russian government came after you JWs. Anyone reading that screenshot will see what you said. Can you confidently make this statement to your fellow JWs in a talk in your Kingdom Hall?

Courz:
In the screenshot posted by Emusan, you confidently said the Bible was compiled by people, therefore, this makes the Bible not inspired by God and filled with errors. You said the word Bible means compiled by people and not what is inspired by God. You were redefining the word Bible again as if we don't know what it means. Don't twist anything here. Can you confidently say this in your Kingdom Hall when you are given a talk about the Bible? You can see why your fellow JWS call you an Apostate.

No JW called me an apostate it's one disguised Churchgoer using his new account!🙂

Expanse2020:
Ehen Tell ne more

Later you guys will start saying you're not Christians when everything in your religion came from the churches of Christendom.

Well you are hearing the truth now the word Hell means Grave and not a place of torment as the churches taught your prophet!🤔

When talking of atheists complaining about faith in God they are frustrated humans who felt like committing suicide to frustrated ones like that God could just kill them for cursing Him that's what Job's wife suggested but the man said he will never ever trash his integrity no matter what happens! Job 2:9-10

So when we see people like that we will continue praying for them because we know there is just a thing line between frustration and insanity!😟

paxonel:
what is born again? Catholic believe in born again or not today Christians don't know what Jesus meant by born again and it is causing big problem in Christianity as I'm talking to you

Here you are eleven years ago and till now you haven't figured out which one out of all these countless religions is the true Christian group but the one that's practicing Christianity in its entirety you just feel hatred towards them without a sound reason.

You need to know that when talking about God's judgement some like you have already judged themselves.

How?

Jesus said:

Now this is the basis for judgment: that the light has come into the world, but men have loved the darkness rather than the light, for their works were wicked. For whoever practices vile things hates the light and does not come to the light, so that his works may not be reproved. But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that his works may be made manifest as having been done in harmony with God.” John 3:19-21

Of course Jesus is the light but since everyone can't see Jesus he left a group and called them the light of the world! Matthew 5:14

Is it possible that nobody finds any fault with light?
Of course not, if nobody finds fault with the light Jesus could have won the heart of all his people back in the first century.

So what really happened?
Could we say Jesus lied by calling himself the light?

Let's borrow a leaf from this illustration.
Humans have created different types of electricity bulbs but can they make any that's as bright as the day light?
The answer is NO.
But if you look critically at the sky where the day light comes from you will see some dark spots yet there can never be any source of light that's brighter than day light.
So the same applies to Jesus and his true disciples if anyone looks critically at Jesus surely you will find faults with him {Matthew 11:6} therefore if people could find faults with Jesus who is the perfect son of God how do you think they won't find faults with his disciples who are imperfect humans?

So people will find faults with Jehovah's Witnesses but they can never ever find a better group that's performing as Christians like Jehovah's Witnesses just as you can't find a better source of light than the sky!🙂

Rebelutionary:
It is no longer "new Christian" it is now "modern Nigerian Christian"? I wish you well in your "fight"!

The real issue is politics+racism!

True Christians don't participate in politics at all because it divides people and leads to killings, for example if you are a believer in Christ and you support one political party against the one another Christian feels is better both of you becomes enemies immediately and if care is not taken the hatred will eventually lead to killings among people claiming believers in Christ!😟

So Jesus told us that we are no part of the world {John 17:14-16} misinformed churchgoers misconstrued this statement for jewelries and makeup for women whereas what Jesus is saying is that his followers have nothing to do with worldly governments, if they ask for anything as rulers of the territory we live Jesus said we should pay them but they don't have authority over our faith in God that's where we draw the line! Matthew 22:21

Now misinformed churchgoers will pick up weapons in support of worldly governments claiming they are fighting for their nation or families but in reality it's politicians they are fighting for.
Jesus promised us God's Kingdom (the government of God) so instead of giving our support to any human government true Christians remain neutral towards all and continue praying for God's own government.

You may not know how this benefits you but today if you see people fighting and killing their neighbors many thinks it's about religion as atheists do claim but is there any reason to fight and kill for God who hasn't declared any side as His own people? Or do we conclude that God is behind both sides fighting against each other?
Surely there is a mix-up somewhere because God can't support both sides while they are killing themselves. In Bible times God always declare which side He is backing so that faithful people knows how to be on God's side but today His only begotten Son has told us never to think of defending any nation because wherever we are is holy ground unlike before when it's only in Jerusalem that God's blessings comes from! John 4:22-24

So religionists fighting today are blinded by Satan who makes them feel they are doing so for God! 2Corinthians 4:4

The word BIBLE was given to the compilation of books but through so many interpreters lots of errors has led to confusion regarding the message.

For instance the Author has a PERSONAL NAME mentioned repeatedly some 7,000 times in His books but translators have removed and replaced His name with titles such as LORD or GOD.

If a reader picks up a copy of translation in which the Author's name has been removed these are likely problems a sincere reader will encounter.


God also said to Moses, “I am the Lord YHWH. I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by my name the Lord YHWH I did not make myself fully known to them. ‭Exodus 6:2-3 NIV‬


And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD YHWH: And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH (YHWH) was I not known to them. Exodus 6:2-3 KJV

Then God said to Moses, “I am the Lord YHWH. I appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. They called me God All-Powerful. They did not know my name, the Lord YHWH.. Exodus 6:2-3 ERV

Then God said to Moses: “I am JEHOVAH. 3 And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty, but with regard to my name JEHOVAH I did not make myself known to them. Exodus 6:2-3 NWT

If you are not a diligent scholar of God's word you may not see the real problem until you read the Psalms where God's divine name has been replaced with the title "LORD".

For example @ Psalms 23 in most Bibles you read what you will find in verse one is:

The LORD is my shepherd

Whereas it's God's divine name that was supposed to be there.

The most confusing part is Psalms 110:1 where the Psalmist talked about God Almighty and the foretold Messiah:


The Lord says to my lord: “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.” ‭Psalms 110:1 NIV‬

Confusing right?

Well this is the correction of such error:

JEHOVAH declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”

The name "JEHOVAH" is the rendering of the divine name YHWH.

singlealone:
Go and sell off first

Most of you just jump into discussions without reading the whole articles.
Jesus was talking to born again Christians in that context but i'm not a born again Christian!🙂

Would you support equality globally or you are of the opinion that some should remain slaves to the few?

Selling off everything for the love of your Christian brothers and sisters!

Hell is the word religionists made horrible but it's real meaning has nothing to do with horror!🙂