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And one of the rulers questioned him, saying: “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit everlasting life?” Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God.  You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not bear false witness, honor your father and your mother.’”  Then he said: “All of these I have kept from youth on.” After hearing that, Jesus said to him, “There is still one thing lacking about you: Sell all the things you have and distribute the proceeds to the poor, and you will have treasure in the heavens; and come be my follower.” When he heard this, he became deeply grieved, for he was very rich. Luke 18:18-23

What was the man required to do?
Did all disciples of Christ did this?
What is the practical application of Jesus' request?

To be continued...

DiarisGodoo:
Ok, you know God never changes, right? How can God suddenly start creating heavens and earth if he never changes?

Ask your pastors because they are your teachers in whom you trust but if you truly want to learn then you must humbly ask for wisdom regarding the Heavens and Earth God is creating and the ones He will destroy!🙂

DiarisGodoo:
I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand.

Your own personal opinion!

DiarisGodoo:
Unless you are just pretending. Wherever God resides is heaven! The "heavens" that was created at creation is what you see when you look up at the sky! Just as the earth that will be destroyed is the earth you see when you look around you - which science tells us is less than 0.0035% of what there is to earth, which will not be destroyed!

The Bible never separate heavens and earth on this matter so this is your own personal opinion as far as the Bible is concerned there is only one earth its heavens that has always been plural and that Bible book stated clearly that the HEAVENS will be destroyed as God is creating New heavens and new earth:

But by the same word the [b]HEAVENS and the EARTH that now exist are reserved for fire and are being kept until the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly people. 2Peter 3:7[/b]


So say something else!🙂

OnuChuks:
A lot,
Let talk tourisms
Do you know how many people travel into Nigeria to attend Service every Sunday, Just Think how that Benefit the Country.

So the tourism has improved the lives of average Nigerians or increased the income of few religious leaders?🤔

OnuChuks:
The factory may produce material goods, but the church produces transformed people. And transformed people are the most valuable assets of any nation.

Since the churches has been increasing what betterment has happened to Nigeria?🤔

DiarisGodoo:
Oga, the question you were asked was: WHERE was God living before creation and what would humans like you call that place?

Whatever you wish to call it as God Himself said in His word:

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" Genesis 1:1

So if God didn't reveal where He was living before creation you are free to call it anything you wish but note that He created what He Himself called "heavens" and according to His word He is DESTROYING it {2Peter 3:8} so there is no hiding behind a finger if you don't agree that both the heavens and earth to be destroyed in that verse are symbolic then let it be that both heavens and earth will be destroyed according to God's word!🙂

DiarisGodoo:
Know the difference between destroying some living things on the earth and destroying the earth.
Humans perceive minuscule part of the earth. That's what will be destroyed - earth as YOU perceive it.

God said it's the same way He did back then that He will do again:

For they deliberately ignore this fact, that long ago there were heavens and an earth standing firmly out of water and in the midst of water by the word of God; and that by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was flooded with water. But by the same word the heavens and the earth that now exist are reserved for fire and are being kept until the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly people. 2Peter 3:5-7

God's word explicitly says it is the destruction of ungodly men.
That's the heavens and earth to be burnt by fire symbolically not the planet earth but if you think it's our planet home then don't change the first part that says heavens will also be DESTROYED!

Walklifeman:
Even Jesus referred to Satan as the "Prince of this World". All you mentioned in the earlier post are things that will happen in the kingdom of God. And not here on Earth, sadly.

It will happen on planet earth when God's Kingdom comes:

Let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth. Matthew 6:10

So it's those standing as obstacles that God will remove! Luke 19:27; Revelation 11:18 compare to Psalms 37:9-11; Proverbs 2:20-22

So it's here on this planet that all those good things will happen it's whatever stands in the way that will be uprooted!

Walklifeman:
Deu 15:11 For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.
Mat 26:11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.
Luk 6:21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
Lev 19:10 And thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Psa 140:12 I know that the Lord will maintain the cause of the afflicted, and the right of the poor
Pro 19:17 He that hath pity upon the poor lendeth unto the Lord ; and that which he hath given will he pay him again.



The same bible mentions the poor enough times. Even Jesus acknowledged the fact that there will always be poor people. How can that be if there will be no "hunger" in the land?

All these misappropriation must continue to be because it's not God that's ruling the planet {2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} but what you saw in the prophecies i quoted will happen globally when God's Kingdom come that is the time God's will will take place on planet earth as it is in heaven! Matthew 6:10

DiarisGodoo:
You just refuse to digest anything I said.
Where was God living b4 creation started?
God did NOT destroy the earth durring Noah's time!

God wasn't living in heaven that time He created heaven for His spirit sons and earth for humans! Psalms 115:16
Of course God destroyed everything living on planet earth because the fish and other creatures aren't cursing Him grief rather it's disobedient and rebellious humans! Genesis 6:6
So back to the question why do you think it makes sense that God should destroy what He made {Ecclesiastes 1:4} when He could just send angels to destroy those ruining the planet? Revelations 11:18; 19:14; 2Chronicles 19:35
So what you are saying makes no sense that's why i can't digest it!🙂

DeepSight:
We already are in many ways, otherwise international cooperation at many levels would not be possible. What do you think the whole idea of the United Nations is?

But how come all members of this united nations keep amassing destructive weapons worth billions of dollars when billions of people across the globe are dying of malnutrition?
Don't you think what the Bible God said about a powerful spirit controlling them is true? 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19
And according to Jesus of Nazareth this powerful spirit creature is behind all the killings in the world from day one! John 8:44
So how do you think humans under such a wicked influence can make peace work among them? Revelations 12:9

DeepSight:
Perhaps we should consider a one world government. Although I cant see how thats presently workable.

Of course that is very very possible and the Bible God is doing it progressively because he promised to gather faithful people throughout the world and make them form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} under one spirit leader! Isaiah 9:7
And the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses are his representative today just as you rightly said humble and obedient people from all nations are flocking under them and they have vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again! Micah 4:3
So it's already working out courtesy the Almighty God who promised to destroy disobedient and violent humans {Luke 19:27} who are causing trouble throughout the world! Revelations 11:18

DeepSight:
Just remember that I don't believe in the said "bible truth" and the said God as described in the bible.

Of course only humble people BELIEVE in God's word nah! 😟
I don't expect you to believe (trust) in the book when you refuse to subject yourself to it but one thing is sure:
You know the group of real adherents of God's word!🙂

This is the question i asked you when you said you don't believe in the Bible or Abrahamic God. Still expecting your response if you are sincere with yourself!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Now you are talking!
So do you believe mankind need to be an organized global family?
If so what is the way forward? 🙂

DeepSight:
Right in the link I shared, and in many other places. I have been here for 16 years and unlike you I dont go about saving specific posts.

Quote it out nah!🙂

This is the post where you said a lot about God's organization:

DeepSight:
I am not sure the respect JWs have is on account of what you say. It is more on account of their general simplicity, general adherence to bible truth, and the fact that no one can accuse them of being commercialised or money or power focused like most other denominations are. Alot of people see a purity in them which is lacking in many other places. I should know, for as I told you, in my youth, I used to be one.

Ọmọ this should be saved for memories so that when you are supporting false religions against Jehovah's Witnesses i can bring it back to remind you!

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Walklifeman:
What part of the Bible promised that?

*There will be food in abundance for all inhabitants of planet earth! Psalms 72:16
*All animals will eat straws so there won't be predators on planet earth again! Isaiah 11:7; 65:25
*Sickness will vanish! Isaiah 33:24
*Death will be no more! Isaiah 25:8
*Mankind will continue to glow as youths forever! Job 33:25
*Bad government will no longer exist on planet earth! Daniel 2:44
*Evildoers will be cut off from our planet! Psalms 37:9-11; Proverbs 2:20-22
*We will live forever! Psalms 37:28
*God will bless everyone equally! Psalms 67:6-7
*God will give us the antidote of oldage and death! Revelations 22:2
*Only humble people who wants equality will be allowed to stay on planet earth! Matthew 5:5

DeepSight:
You really don't know me.
Here goes:
https://www.nairaland.com/411111/buddhism

Where is the post you spoke extensively about another religion in an impressive manner?🙂

DeepSight:
I am not sure the respect JWs have is on account of what you say. It is more on account of their general simplicity, general adherence to bible truth, and the fact that no one can accuse them of being commercialised or money or power focused like most other denominations are. Alot of people see a purity in them which is lacking in many other places. I should know, for as I told you, in my youth, I used to be one.

Truvelisback:
Which rich JW member you know has sold everything he or she had and given to the poor? Or are they all poor?

Surely you have nothing meaningful to do but trolling.
Try to believe in Jesus he is God's only begotten Son and whatever he says is the final because all authority both in heaven and on earth has been given him.
Do have a sound night rest!🙂

DeepSight:
Of course I did. And whether you know it or not, I also have many kind words for other religions, especially Buddhism and Jainism.
Sadly, I knew that being you, a man who keeps records of praises of himself, you would treasure that post forever.

Of course it has entered my list whether you like it or not!🙂
At least you typed all of that about just one religion so can you quote any post where you spoke extensively about any other religion like that apart from JWs?

Please be honest now!🙂

Truvelisback:
Which JW member has sold everything he/she has and given to the poor? Or are there no JW members?

Do you believe the man who uttered the statement?
If you do, how do you think it should be applied practically?

You know only Jehovah's Witnesses practice what Jesus taught but instead of you to ask us why Jesus said that you feel like questioning us for believing him? 🤔

Please if you don't believe in Jesus come out openly it's not just by making claims that proves you believe in someone {Matthew 7:21-23} but by sticking to whatever the person says {Matthew 7:24-27} and doing all you can to help others apply it. Matthew 28:20

So if you don't know why Jesus said this it's not a crime all you need to do is ask for understanding! Matthew 7:7-8

DeepSight:
There is neither monopoly of wisdom nor monopoly of humility.

Yet you typed this about only one religion:

DeepSight:
I am not sure the respect JWs have is on account of what you say. It is more on account of their general simplicity, general adherence to bible truth, and the fact that no one can accuse them of being commercialised or money or power focused like most other denominations are. Alot of people see a purity in them which is lacking in many other places. I should know, for as I told you, in my youth, I used to be one.

Are you saying you don't understand what you typed above?🤔

Truvelisback:
Are there no rich people in JW?
Why hasn't any of them practiced what you quoted?

Do you believe in Jesus?
If you do can you tell me the practical application of what Jesus said in the verse?🤔

WriterX:
You all are saying too much.
I will simply ask for nobody to have the ability to tell a lie.
Think about it!

You want everyone to become a robot shey?🙂

TRUTHaDDICTED:
Sxc should not be considered as sin, where we can just have it carefree anytime, just as it is for the animals without much stress and shakara from the other usual gender

Why do you think male animals fights for territories? 🤔

DeepSight:
JWs of course. Xxxxxxxxxx

So who is the judge now?
Is it me or you?🙂

See what you typed with your own hands about JWs:

DeepSight:
I am not sure the respect JWs have is on account of what you say. It is more on account of their general simplicity, general adherence to bible truth, and the fact that no one can accuse them of being commercialised or money or power focused like most other denominations are. Alot of people see a purity in them which is lacking in many other places. I should know, for as I told you, in my youth, I used to be one.

Do you now agree with me that only this group have the wisdom to gather humble people throughout the world? Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3🙂

That's what the Bible God promised and has always wanted for His own subjects!🙂

Walklifeman:
If wishes were horses, ......

DeepSight:
So you are a communist.

There is no Sabbath law for Christians we can choose any day for worship!🙂

dollypi:
I'm sure you've been thinking about this for a while.

That's exactly what the Bible God promised His friends but the problem is many people don't know anything about the Bible God they are spreading wrong thoughts after engaging in false religions!

Who are those expected to be alive when all these takes effect?

DeepSight:
1. Disease should be eliminated
2. The frailties of old age should be eliminated

3. People should know what, if anything, happens after death

4. Death should be pre programmable for everyone in the same way as one can pre programme when one wants to graduate to a higher class

5. Certain levels of physical, mental and emotional pain should be eliminated

6. The communal, social and empathetic instincts should be strengthened and the belligerent and anti social instincts greatly weakened

7. Creatures should not have to eat other creatures to survive. This should be eliminated.

8. There should be greater universal clarity on the meaning of life, the origin of the universe and the existence of God.

9. There should be some form of universal minimalist existence guaranteed.

10. Famines, droughts, earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions and other natural disasters should be eliminated or designed to occur in such a way as not to harm life.

11. Desire should be limited.

12. No one should be born into privilege or disadvantage.

DeepSight:
I have told you my prime issues with JWs. There is a cult-like disposition in terms of the authority of the elders/ Governing Body. Also in terms of the practice of shunning. But beyond all these, I do not subscribe to biblical inerrancy, I do not believe everything in the bible is true, I do not believe in the Abrahamic God, I see a lot of barbarisms in scripture, I do not see Jesus as a special son of God but as a human being messenger of the Light at best.

Now you are talking!

So do you believe mankind need to be an organized global family?

If so what is the way forward? 🙂

You've said it all!

So how come you can't submit to any other religion since you left this religion?

It's simple: you already know where the people who are submissive to true Bible teachings exists but you don't want to be a part of them so you choose to be whatever you want after knowing the only organization of people with pure heart! Psalms 24:3-4

Now do you agree with me that you are not humble?🤔

DeepSight:
I am not sure the respect JWs have is on account of what you say. It is more on account of their general simplicity, general adherence to bible truth, and the fact that no one can accuse them of being commercialised or money or power focused like most other denominations are. Alot of people see a purity in them which is lacking in many other places. I should know, for as I told you, in my youth, I used to be one.

DeepSight:
In all honesty you didn't explain it this way. Be that as it may, don't you think there is a place for independence of mind and conscience? Why must one submit to an organised group? Does it not occur to you that most organised groups are false or scams anyway. For example, of the hundreds of thousands of organised groups in the world, you yourself only believe that there is only one correct one. Can you see the problem here? Because anyone who doesn't agree with that one you agree with will immediately be dubbed not humble.
Remember you didn't actually say that one must belong to an organised group to be humble. You said one must belong to Jehovah's Witnesses.

The truth is whoever is willing to submit to any organized group wholeheartedly is a prospective JW because once you are able to set aside your ego and humbly submit to people like you then it's certain that you are willing to accept true headship which most people don't know.

Of course only Jehovah's Witnesses are humble today that's why you see all the religionists on this forum always calling out Jehovah's Witnesses asking us several questions regarding what we believe because they know that we truly submit to those taking the lead among us unlike them since they only follow half minded not fully!

DeepSight:
But you judge others.

You don't know the meaning of that word "JUDGE" i asked you if there is any organized group to which you are fully submissive to the rules guiding them and you said "NO" so i concluded that it's not possible for you to claim you are humble if you only adhere to rules you singlehandedly set for yourself since you give no room for checkmate.
How does that translate to judging you?

You can only prove your humility where there is an organized group with which you are submissive to the same line of thought in the absence of that everyone around you should be classified as humble no matter their beliefs or opinions.

Do you understand now?🤔