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PCHC:
Knowing them by their fruits only has limits and can be deceitful.

Are you saying Jesus is not the perfect way to know the truth about God? John 14:6

How can you say what Jesus (God's Son) told us to do can be deceitful?

Guy thanks for your time, goodbye!

Jesus is the chosen king of the Kingdom of God so what he will do for us when his kingdom starts ruling over earth are the things he did as samples but until God's Kingdom comes mankind will be plagued with suffering, sickness and death all due to inherited sin.
So Jesus wept knowing fully well that even though he raised his friend Lazarus sickness and death will continue to plague his dear friends as long as this system persists!

The Bible God didn't ask anyone to look like Abraham in appearance rather what God ask of all sincere people is to emulate the faith of Abraham:

So those who adhere to FAITH are being blessed together with Abraham, who had FAITH. Galatians 3:9

The Jews till today misunderstood this as they keep dressing out to look like ancient people thinking that's what God asked sincere people to do but they are wrong it's FAITH like Abraham that God is asking for!

God bless you and may you have Peace!

PCHC:
Do not seek to identify God's organisation.

This is your own opinion whereas Jesus said:

"By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit.  A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit" Matthew 7:16-18

Jesus said i should make sure i identify them so i will follow Jesus' instruction!

PCHC:
Again, what point are you pursuing or pushing with these verses?

Well the interpretation is simple.

Figure TWO spiritually signify strength in the sense that when one is getting weak the other will give him a backing {Ecclesiastes 4:9} so this refers to the disciples of Jesus who were two groups of sheep {John 10:16} their preaching and teaching in the first century was really effective that they covered the known world of their time.
Their death is what Jesus said at Matthew 13:25 that men were sleeping that's the time Satan's agents overshadowed them and from that time true Christianity disappeared on planet earth {Luke 18:8} until the twentieth century when Jehovah's Witnesses began doing the work again exactly like the first century disciples of Christ! Revelations Revelations 11:11

Can you name a religion among all those claiming Christian churches that's actively preaching and teaching like Jehovah's Witnesses? Matthew 28:19-20

NO!

Can you mention one church where their members are globally known for love among themselves like Jehovah's Witnesses? John 13:34-35

NO!

Can you mention one church where their members have the same line of thought so that whenever they talk about their teaching people can say "i know the church having that teaching" like Jehovah's Witnesses? John 17:22; Ephesians 4:3

NO!

So i'm telling you confidently that true Christianity died after the death of first century disciples of Christ {Revelations 11:7} but in the twentieth century rose again as Jehovah's Witnesses {Revelations 11:11} that's why God gave them another group name to distinguish them out of all the false religions claiming Christians:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

If you don't agree it's OK but that's the undeniable truth and reason why you can't mention the name of your own church now!

PCHC:
Not all gatherings of self-proclaimed Christians are necessarily worth associating with, nor is Jesus necessarily present in all such gatherings, despite their claims.

What are the qualities of a true Christian gathering so that we can all identify God's organization when we come in contact with them?

Paul wrote:

And let us consider one another so as to incite to love and fine works, 25 not forsaking our meeting together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you see the day drawing near. Hebrews 10:24-25

Are all gatherings of worshipers claiming Christians worth associating with?

Jesus said:

"For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.” Matthew 18:20

Is Jesus in all gatherings of worshipers claiming Christians?

PCHC:
When you talk about church, you are referring to a "Denomination" or "Sectarian Group" following common idealogy and a set of doctrines.
But when I talk about church, I refer to the "Elects" or "True Few Chosen and Faithful Ones" drawn from every Tribe, Nation, Denomination or Sect, and gathered as Saints under one Fold only the Lord Jesus Christ Himself Shepherds.
I am not interested in a perfect Denomination, perfect Sect, or Perfect Organisation, like Catholic, Anglican, Methodist, Lutheran, Jehovah's Witnesses, Pentecostal, Charismatic, etc. The perfection of any of these groups has never been my view or interest, because all Denominations are Divisions that are not from the Lord but from men dividing the faith in order to rule or control those following them.
You are still trapped in the Divisions or Denominations battles or comparisons among and against themselves, while you are defending the one called "Jehovah's Witnesses" led by Charles Russell.
I do not defend Denominations, but Disciples of the Lord. I am interested in the few True Disciples, Chosen and faithful ones, who are in all and every Denominations but know and follow only the Voice of the Lord Jesus Christ alone in their devotion.
To me, there's no perfect Denomination, and I don't even seek one: but I seek Perfecting of the Saints in every and all churches. Let all Denominations perish, but let all Saints live, flourish, and abide forever in and under Christ alone, not under any pastor or any so called man of God as overseer of any man-made church group.

Steep:
It is called justice. People are sent to hell as a punishment for their sins. Sin against an eternal God is everlasting punishment. Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

You didn't answer the question:

MaxInDHouse:
If they never existed before the creation can the same God return them to their former state of oblivion when they proved worthless or he must keep them alive somewhere tormenting them for not proving worthy of the purpose for which they were created? John 3:16

YES or NO

Then explain!

DeepSight:
It might. Because there were questions directed at Jesus if he was Elijah.

It's written in the scriptures:

“Look! I am sending to you E·liʹjah the prophet before the coming of the great and awe-inspiring day of Jehovah. And he will turn the hearts of fathers back toward sons, and the hearts of sons back toward fathers, so that I may not come and strike the earth, devoting it to destruction.” Malachi 4:5-6

The Jews thought Jesus could be the foretold Elijah since he himself said:

"Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword.  For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.  Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household." Matthew 10:34-36

But he later told them that John the baptist has fulfilled that prophecy! Matthew 11:14

However this does not supports the theory of evolution because John himself told his listeners:

And they asked (John): “What, then? Are you E·liʹjah?” He replied: “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered: “No!” John 1:21

Which means he is a different person totally but having the attributes of Elijah!

Steep:
No human life did not prexist his mortal life. When God created Adam he made all the component of human life in him, which was to be subsequently activated and formed into humans later on.
So human life begins when the seed of the man and of the woman unite together from then the formation process begins.

If they never existed before the creation can the same God return them to their former state of oblivion when they proved worthless or he must keep them alive somewhere tormenting them for not proving worthy of the purpose for which they were created? John 3:16

MMostPPInDWorld:
We have over 48,000 churches and from what i've seen so far they are different in their teachings. How can a member of one church deny Jesus before men when he sees members of another church doing the exact opposite of what he was taught as truth about Jesus?
Let's say you are from C.A.C (women don't wear makeup or jewelries) how can you speak for your own Jesus in the presence of a woman attending Christ Embassy who believes makeup and jewelries is okay for women?
Won't that lead to endless arguments?
And the scriptures say we should avoid arguments. Titus 3:9

If you're interested in knowing the only true Christian organization please read the below article carefully!

MaxInDHouse:
Satan has been working tirelessly so that Christianity may fail and to an extent he has been making progress because Jesus handed over the commission to imperfect humans who will in turn pass over the assignment to other imperfect humans when they die or as Jesus puts it in a parable (when men are sleeping) {Matthew 13:25} so after the death of Jesus' twelve apostles and first century disciples who knew the truth Satan began promoting apostates (rebellious excommunicated members who were disciplined due to misconduct and unchristian course) these individuals became political something no member of the first century disciples partake in and they began persecuting anyone who speaks against their activities until they were able to silence or make other members compromise their stand.
This has continued until the twentieth century when America declared freedom of speech expression and worship from that time true Christianity began taking shape again and today true Christianity has fully recovered from it's deathlike condition {Revelations 11:7-10} from the year 1931 the true God gave this group a new name which separated them from all others claiming Christians they are known globally today as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

Jesus returned in the year 1914 only to find out that what he commissioned in the first century has taken a totally different shape {Luke 18:8} so as a spirit king himsel and his angels began looking for any religion that's prepared to make changes so as to conform to what he laid down in the first century.
The only group that yielded to his call is called The International Bible Students Association back then led by one Charles Taze Russell from that time till the year 1931 Jesus continued to teach them how to return to true Christianity all other religions were mocking this group because they keep changing from one doctrine to another as if they don't know what they are doing unknowingly to observers that Jesus the invisible spirit king is the one doing the restructuring until today that everyone on planet earth now know this group as the most active and united group when it comes to preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom throughout the world! Act 1:8

Satan has been working tirelessly so that Christianity may fail and to an extent he has been making progress because Jesus handed over the commission to imperfect humans who will in turn pass over the assignment to other imperfect humans when they die or as Jesus puts it in a parable (when men are sleeping) {Matthew 13:25} so after the death of Jesus' twelve apostles and first century disciples who knew the truth Satan began promoting apostates (rebellious excommunicated members who were disciplined due to misconduct and unchristian course) these individuals became political something no member of the first century disciples partake in and they began persecuting anyone who speaks against their activities until they were able to silence or make other members compromise their stand.
This has continued until the twentieth century when America declared freedom of speech expression and worship from that time true Christianity began taking shape again and today true Christianity has fully recovered from it's deathlike condition {Revelations 11:7-10} from the year 1931 the true God gave this group a new name which separated them from all others claiming Christians they are known globally today as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

Jesus returned in the year 1914 only to find out that what he commissioned in the first century has taken a totally different shape {Luke 18:8} so as a spirit king himsel and his angels began looking for any religion that's prepared to make changes so as to conform to what he laid down in the first century.
The only group that yielded to his call is called The International Bible Students Association back then led by one Charles Taze Russell from that time till the year 1931 Jesus continued to teach them how to return to true Christianity all other religions were mocking this group because they keep changing from one doctrine to another as if they don't know what they are doing unknowingly to observers that Jesus the invisible spirit king is the one doing the restructuring until today that everyone on planet earth now know this group as the most active and united group when it comes to preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom throughout the world! Act 1:8

Akir2025:
Sodom and Gomorrah, When the Abominations and sin was too much , He destroyed it ... Why has Jehovah waited this long to Permit These Sorrows to this time ...

Does it seems good to you when you see a Little child that Looks like a skeleton, Hungry , Mother Couldn't Afford to feed herself not to even talk of feeding her baby .

All Crying .. Where does the feelings of the Free will , Free Decisions Comes .

Even Lucifer that is said to be Proud hence the rebellion in heavens before his fall , Before he was Chased out of heavens into the earth , Before he started and initiated all these wahalas, Can't Jehovah Put an end to his Rebellion immediately rather than Getting down to the earth where you have humans.

Is it a deliberate plans by Jehovah to Inputs the Spirit of pride in Lucifer so that he would be sent down to earth to Torments Man

Oga Jehovah Withness . YOU NOTICE A DANGEROUS ANIMAL IN YOUR HOUSE, YOU HAVE THE POWER TO KILL THAT ANIMAL IMMEDIATELY, WOULD YOU ALLOW THE DANGEROUS ANIMAL TO LIVE , RATHER THAN KILLING IT , YOU KNOW YOUR CHILD IS STANDING OUTSIDE THE ROOM AND ONCE YOU CHASE THE ANIMAL OUT OF YOUR ROOM WITHOUT KILLING IT , YOU KNOW THE ANIMAL WOULD START TO ATTACK YOUR CHILD OUTSIDE ... SAY THE TRUTH WHAT WOULD YOU DO

THE WHOLE THING IS FUNNY THOUGH

I answered the highlighted previously in my response below!

MaxInDHouse:
For food just as we destroy the growing plants for food but if you kill any animal without the purpose of eating it or for safety reason it's a sin!

Kobojunkie:
Let me guess! You signed up for the full Christian religious package, but now you find that this particular religious rule does not work for you, and you are desperate to deny the logic behind it?

Look, Christianity is made up of over 46,000 different denominations — each of them with their different laws of sin, etc., basically different deity and interpretation— so, you only need to find the one that best fits your particular belief at this point, and you are religiously good to go.

There is only one Christian organization the rest are like different lanes on the other road {Matthew 7:13-14} so if you're not interested in Christianity you can't IDENTIFY the only true Christian organization.
Satan initiated different religions and used his position as the god in control of the world to promote them all.
Why did Satan do this?
He realized that fighting Christianity with fierce opposition alone can't work as Jesus' first century disciples were ready to lay down their lives for the truth so to tackle true Christianity Satan initiated different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all of them claiming Christians and churches of Christ but the only true Christian organization Satan started using his agents to demean them and speak all sorts of lies against them.
You have known Jehovah's Witnesses for years now can you confidently prove this group wrong if you truly have faith in God?
Please if you are now into atheism come out openly and stop deceiving yourself!

Peacecore:
So why don't adopt that means?

To preach Jesus taught us to approach a person who is down hearted with the message of hope stressing the importance of God's Kingdom because this will bring laughter and joy to the hopeless.
Today despite being on this thread i still engaged a person contemplating suicide here on this forum with the message of hope about God's Kingdom.

Here is his appreciation:

Akir2025:
Well .. Thank You ... Some Questions May not get An Answer no matter how long Such Questions are Asked .. Thank U Again Sir ..

So it's not just claiming something we are doing it for real that's why commendations is coming from different sides. I'm using this post to say bye for now.

God bless you and may you have peace!

achorladey:
Na you I mention when I use AI. Is that the reason I need to forcefully accept your imposition as what preaching means on nairaland by creating threads and avoid being called Antichrist.

I have told you that no matter how many times you come against me as long as it's about scriptural discussions i will always render you SILENT:


no weapon forged against you will prevail, and you will refute every tongue that accuses you. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and this is their vindication from me,” declares the Lord. ‭Isaiah 54:17 NIV‬


Ai disciple, if you don't have any scripture to back up what you are saying it's OK!

achorladey:
You don run comot from preaching to discussion

Can preaching be incorporated into a conversation?

Yes, it can. Instead of a formal sermon, you can share your faith through personal stories, insights, and answers to questions according to Global Christian Relief.
This involves engaging in open and respectful dialogue, listening to the other person's perspective, and sharing your own in a way that is relevant and relatable according to Global Christian Relief.
Consider it more like sharing your perspective and beliefs rather than delivering a formal sermon.



Just look up your jumping here and there is for me to school you so you learn. I will exhaust your jumping here and there.



Should I forcefully accept your imposition regarding how to preach about JESUS? You are yet to answer.



Good, my preaching here is about the theme already set by the OP which is preaching publicly.



So creating threads on nairaland is Jesus way of preaching and I have to forcefully accept that imposition that is not recorded in the Bible as Jesus way of preaching to avoid being called Antichrist

Peacecore!

Remember what i said about this guy substituting smileys for scriptures.
See him asking himself questions and answering himself without a single back up from the scriptures.

Are you now convinced that achorladey doesn't believe in God or Jesus at all?

Peacecore:
It's not funny for real. He's responding straight to the question

Just follow the discussion i'm sure you will see the reason why he has been avoiding me and begging me to block him.
Now after telling him straight that he is lying about preaching he decided to say his way of countering people's comments is preaching to him so i opened the scriptures to prove what Jesus commissioned as preaching.
Now he's quoting Ai as who will determine what PREACHING for Jesus meant while i'm quoting Jesus himself.

Please watch his next response.

There is no need for stories let Babalola's daughter go to the guy's church and bless five members with ₦2m each that will settle the case once for all time.

Can anyone say Adeboye's children aren't rolling in billions?

Of course they will prove it not just by mouthing money answers Nons€nse jàre!

Peacecore:
I only asked if you preach in the marketplaces and roadsides?

I can confidently say it anywhere that his actions has spoken in volumes.
People like him say one thing and does another.
How can someone who loves preaching be on this forum for more than a decade without dropping just one single message?
He can continue deceiving himself but he can't deceive intelligent people!

achorladey:
So how come did I end up being an Antichrist when you never see me type shouting indiscriminately at passersby = disorder = preaching publicly
I should acknowledge your lies on top of my head to make your restlessness and calling me Antichrist

The intent of your heart is what's killing you if you're not here for disorder the OP isn't against preaching to neighbors in market places rather what irritates everyone here is noise pollution.
So if you're not in support of noise pollution it means you misunderstood each other simple!

Peacecore:
It's not easily discerned anyway but I have put out a question for him to ascertain if he does preaching in the markets and roadsides.

Don't mind him jàre!

achorladey:
I want to see where this ends now.......
MaxInDHouse didn't say public preaching is unchristian........ (order)
and Achorladey didn't tell you preaching publicly is unchristian..... order
Where is the disorder coming from?
To that Antichrist peddlings.......
Even when I say just like Peter... JESUS you are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
I will still be an Antichrist.

Shouting indiscriminately at passersby is disorderly that's what makes whoever is doing so an AntiChrist acknowledge this and prove that you are not under the control of the spirit of Antichrist!

Since i joined Nairaland many have said so much to commend me for lifting their spirit:

Nnamdipapa:
Max, do not descend to the levels of these people, and never let them get to you. I have noticed your interactions on NL for years and I see emotional maturity and the way you carry yourself, I have yet to see in the average Pentecostal Christian.

Sirmwill:
I am not a Jehovah Witness person
I am not even a church person
But
I can tell you ,you are saying a lot of truth but
Most people would not accept
So
Don't bother yourself much with arguments 😇

DoctorAyukebot:
You know your scriptures

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

IykeSent:
This is a deep and insightful explanation of Hebrews 1:5, showing how Jesus is uniquely God's Son not just another angel. I especially liked the connection to the temple and the idea of spiritual sonship through being “born again.God bless you for this

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

shinaola21:
Perfectly said bro 💯

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

Paul said:

Keep on giving these commands and teaching them. Never let anyone look down on your youth. Instead, become an example to the faithful ones in speaking, in conduct, in love, in faith, in chasteness. Until I come, continue applying yourself to public reading, to exhortation, to teaching.  Do not neglect the gift in you that was given you through a prophecy when the body of elders laid their hands on you.  Ponder over these things; be absorbed in them, so that your advancement may be plainly seen by all people. 1Timothy 4:11-15

The above commendations are from all sort of people: Catholics, Pentecostals, Traditionalists, Atheists, Agnostics and Freethinkers.

That's evidence of faith and heart filled with Good tidings!

achorladey:
To speak from both side of your mouth na your areas of specialisation.
Achorladey is Emusan, Achorladey is not Emusan
I don't understand

Diversion!

Jehovah's Witnesses preach publicly and i am one of them so how can i speak against what my religion and i practice?

achorladey:
That's what you get from the person that speaks from both side of their mouth. Do you know he dragged you into admitting my preaching is noise making earlier?

Yet i'm doing it shey?

Peacecore:
Are you sure he doesn't do it because the way he's defending it ehh

Please whoever you see in the streets shouting indiscriminately at passersby claiming he or she is doing so for Jesus do you think such a person can be on a faceless social media for ten good years without dropping at least one message out of the thousands he or she is spreading out in the streets?

Most people you are seeing here heard what they are preaching from their pastors or other preachers and it's when they can't keep it alone to themselves that they start one or two threads to express themselves.

Acholardey doesn't believe in anything apart from himself that's what Satan is doing {John 8:44} so when you see him vehemently arguing on a topic it's not to preach anything but to support disorder!