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When discussing about God most people have concluded that He a Mystery but is that the truth?

Jesus told his disciples to preach and teach about God's Kingdom this may seem to be meaningless but let's reason intellectually.
Imagine you are sent to campaign for a presidential candidate before an election then someone said:
"You don't have to mention the character of the so called candidate all you need to do is just campaign for him."
How can you convince prospective voters that your preferred candidate merits their support?

The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it. Psalms 37:29

Whoever seeks righteousness and meekness will escape the impending wrath of God! Zephaniah 2:2-3; Matthew 5:5

DeepSight:
If he existed he was likely a messenger of the Light.

Well you are close to the truth, of course Jesus is a messenger of the true God but Jesus himself is the light while our God is the source as in the Creator and Maker of light.

Regarding this the Psalmist wrote:

With you is the source of life; By your light we can see light. Psalms 36:9


Appreciated!

How did Jesus commission preaching the Good News (Gospel)?

Brahamimo:
I checked the spam folder and saw it just now. I'm trying to reply now

Thanks!

Brahamimo:
I saw the notification here, but when I checked my mail, I didn't see anything.

Perhaps you should resend to me.

OK so what should people do about this information?

First of all do you believe in Jesus Christ at all?
Please what do you know about Jesus of Nazareth?
It's better to tell everyone what you think about Jesus before inviting them to come and start another argument.

https://www.nairaland.com/8144951/top-ten-barbaric-beliefs-events

Above is your own thread titled:
"Top Ten Barbaric Beliefs/Events Found In The Bible"

So what do you believe about Jesus who said his father is the best personality we can think of? Matthew 5:45

Brahamimo:
I enjoyed your comment. I love JW all over the world.

Naturally no one loves a religion that's claiming they are the only group that knows the true God {John 14:6} but when we see the writings on the wall only dishonest and arrogant people will continue hating what is GOOD calling it BAD! Isaiah 5:20
I hope you learn more about Jehovah's Witnesses so that you too can benefit from the things God is doing for humble people throughout the earth.
God bless you and may you have Peace!

Good to know that there is none of our Kingdom melodies is in your list so if you have become an atheist today it's due to your upbringing.
You never knew anything about the truth in Christ or his real disciples!

Ken4Christ:
It's a MYSTERY you can't comprehend with the carnal mind.

The name written on her forehead was a MYSTERY: babylon the great the mother of prostitutes and of the abominations of the earth. ‭Revelation 17:5 NIV‬

You are the funniest commentator on NL because if your god is a MYSTERY it simply means whoever goes for it should be prepared to welcome all manners of definition and opinions.

What really baffles me is how you agreed that your god is a MYSTERY yet you want to argue with other worshipers of your god instead of welcoming whatever anyone fabricates about your MYSTERIOUS god!

Please remind all of them that Hellfire is waiting for whoever disagrees on the nature of your MYSTERIOUS god!

AngelahFlo:
So we don't have to learn farming to be able to use the knowledge in our new home.

What primary assignment did God give Adam in the garden home where He put him? Genesis 1:28 ; 2:5-9

Jesus said:

“Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men." Matthew 7:15-20

Fatoyinbo spoke the truth because those claiming followers of Babalola are all lovers of fame and money but none of them has produced a gathering of zealous preachers and teachers of God's word. So if you people can't present any group of preachers shouting in the streets like Babalola but pulpit billionaires who are accumulating riches it means Babalola's hidden intentions is to become a billionaire just that he died in the process.
Pa Akinbode Sadella was the only man who lived in the time of Babalola he never go to the streets to preach like Babalola instead he was promoting these pulpit billionaires as if Babalola doesn't know what he was doing back then.
If you people don't understand what Jesus meant in those verse for your information he is telling everyone that when you see any preacher who claims to be his follower don't attack or criticize him {Mark 9:38-39} just allow him to continue after all such a person will grow old and die then whatever happens to his legacy will prove the type of person he really is. Matthew 13:27-30
Today you people can't point out just one ministry that's following the path of Babalola yet you are hailing him as if he is truly an apostle of Jesus! 2Corinthians 11:12-15

femi4:
You still don't understand my point.
It's not about fake or original born again
My point is - Jesu Oyingbo NEVER used the phrase BORN AGAIN in his time.
Don't change the narrative

Ọmọ you don't have to start arguing blindly just to support falsehood Jesu Oyingbo is the first Nigerian religious leader who started the Born Again mentality.

The slogan:

"Yee must be born again"

Became what most churches are saying today because Jesus Oyingbo started it.

Ayo Babalola never mandated it that is why C.A.C. people don't carry it on their head but as soon as Jesus Oyingbo used it and it worked on gullible Nigerians all of them started claiming born again and asking if you are born again!

Here's the Akowonjo man!

AfonjaPriest:
Not too long later, a prominent god of man, who mimicked this man, except that he didn't call himself Jesus of whatever.
His name was t.b. joshua.

TB Joshua still claimed he is a Christian.

Go to Akowonjo there is one man there called Olutanmole of the universe he is claiming the same thing like Jesu Oyingbo!

@femi4
Can you present the original as well as fake born again pastors among these so called ministers who are all claiming born again?

Jehovah's Witnesses are talking you want to disprove it when you don't even know what you are saying.

The way most people used to speak of me as if i'm more than just a member of another church often surprise me yet i am not even one of the born again in my religion whereas all of you are claiming born again when you don't even know what it means.

Well let it be known that Jesu Oyingbo is the first Nigerian religious leader who started deceiving people with the mentality of BORN AGAIN because that is the easiest way to render their brains dead.

Just imagine someone running up and down accumulating material possessions claiming born again!

femi4:
That was not his message. That's the agenda you are trying to sell.
Jesu Oyingbo, Guru maraji et al message is all about selfishness. All about I am He, follow me
Apologies for bursting your bubbles

You don't know what happened those of my age knows so there is no need arguing with you at least the so called born again thing has ended up in a big mess as all those claiming born again now are contradicting themselves! Matthew 7:16-18

@ WapMinistry your attention is needed here o!

My own religion is Jehovah's Witnesses Organization we're not fellow worshipers with anyone who is not a member of our group so unlike all other religions claiming Christians who break away from their former religion only to start yet another but still claiming they're worshiping the same God with their former religion.

Jehovah's Witnesses aren't worshiping the same God with any other religion just as whoever heard John the baptist when he said:

"You yourselves bear me witness that I said, ‘I am not the Christ, but I have been sent ahead of that one.’ Whoever has the bride is the bridegroom. But the friend of the bridegroom, when he stands and hears him, has a great deal of joy on account of the voice of the bridegroom. So my joy has been made complete.  That one must keep on increasing, but I must keep on decreasing.” John 3:28-30

Because of the highlighted in blue most disciples of John the baptist refused to follow Jesus because they felt Jesus supposed to remain a member of their group not starting his own in rivalry with John the baptist and some of them who followed Jesus later turned back because they don't understand what he was saying! John 6:66

The truth remains that John was the prophet who ended the Old Covenant and Usher in the Mediator of the New Covenant {John 1:23 compare to Isaiah 40:3} so if anyone thinks after John has introduce Jesus as the Christ they can still continue being disciples of John such a person is no longer worshiping the true God because the Old Covenant ended with the mission of John the baptist! Matthew 11:13

So if anyone feels Jehovah's Witnesses Organization is just another sect to be counted among thousands claiming Christians worshiping the same God such a person is committing the greatest blunder!

femi4:
Read my post again ...who dey drag operating year with you
His message wasn't central on "you must be born again". That agenda no sell, try again. The born again preaching didn't start in Nigeria until 70s

That's why i asked:

How old are you?

Jesu Oyingbo is the first Nigerian religious leader who brainwashed his members with the mentality of claiming BORN AGAIN that's what his followers used to say in order to distance themselves from whoever wants to convince them against their leader.

"Yee must be born again"

Was their slogan so once you start asking what that means they will just walk away claiming you don't know anything!

Where is the OP?

femi4:
Lamba, you are trying to sell false narrative. Jesu oyingbo preaching was central on himself as the Saviour.
FYI
figures like Bishop Dr. Dangana O. Kashibu played a role in popularizing born-again messages through open-air crusades in areas like Takum in 1975. Pentecostal churches like the National Evangelical Mission Takum also played a significant role in spreading these teachings.

How old are you?

Jesus Oyingbo that's been operating since the 1950s you are talking about someone who mimicked him in 1975.

I just pity you young boys of nowadays always trying to speak against the truth that you know nothing about!

KNOWMORE56:
but how can the lie of religion be used to fool Christian ignoramuses fifty years ago and pastors are still using same template in the 21st century baffles me,
even when the white man who sold religion mirage to Africans has long abandoned it.

No wonder you no longer comment like before!
So the falsehood in your former religion has changed your outlook now!

Well Jesu Oyingbo is the first Nigerian religious leader who started using that trick to hypnotize people asking if they are born again!

Obviously all those claiming Christians in this section agreed with the OP except me but i'm still expecting his response!

Satan has complicated everything when he created many religions all in the name of just one leader: Jesus of Nazareth!

So if you're not interested in knowing the one and only organization that's the real disciples of Christ Jesus Satan's trap is to make you feel irritated and stop association with any body of worshipers.

Last week i followed one of my fellow disciples to study with one of her Bible students after the study i notice woman feels there is nothing special about Jehovah's Witnesses because she asked one question that most unserious ones often ask:

"You people always invite us to your church but if we invite you to our church will you also come?"

Then i ask her the name of her state and she mentioned "Niger" then i asked my JW partner who answered "Rivers" next i asked her:

"Do you know this Rivers State lady could come to Niger State without anyone inviting her and will be welcomed by JWs in Nigers State?"

She responded:

"Yes, i know Jehovah's Witnesses for that, they can accommodate any of their members throughout the world most especially when such a person is a total stranger to them"

I asked her why Jehovah's Witnesses are doing that and she said because Jesus said we should love our fellow believers.

Then i asked her if she'll accommodate a strange member of her church just as she strongly believe Jehovah's Witnesses will do but she said the world has become unsafe.

So i asked her again but Jehovah's Witnesses are also living in the same world nah?

She said you people are different.

Therefore i finalized:

Do you think it's wise to join the meeting if those who don't have love among themselves? Psalms 1:1

Satan is misleading the inhabitants of this planet {2Corinthians 4:4 compare to Revelations 12:9} in many ways so how can we know his tricks?
First of all Satan is an arrogant person so what he promotes is arrogance this means whoever is following Satan won't know such a person will surely believes he's following Jesus.
The first thing to know about Jesus is that he claims to be a learner who is always learning from his father {John 7:16} therefore his real disciples must be humble learners as well passing the message from those who knew more to those who still needs to learn.

How did Jesus arrange this process of dispensing life saving informations?

First he gathered many disciples and out of his numerous disciples he chose twelve and called them apostles {Luke 6:13} the twelve are his close disciples to whom he reveals certain secrets and told them to pass it to other disciples yet Jesus still chose three out of the twelve that he used to reveal deeper secrets and still there is one apostle that Jesus love mostly to the extent of telling him that he has another special assignment for him this is the apostle who wrote the last Bible book.
All the disciples agreed to learn humbly from the twelve apostles {Act 2:42} whereas the twelve don't drag being spokesman of the group with Peter, James and John who were the three closest confidants of Jesus. Act 4:13

So when Jesus promised to send the Holy Spirit to TEACH his followers that's not to say each disciple will be given a different spirit whose teaching will start to contradict one another rather what he's saying is when matters arises among them or there is need for further teachings regarding the truth about Jesus all the disciples should humbly look to his apostles who will be directed by God's Holy Spirit! Act 15:28-29

Today the spirit that's operating in the world is satanic arrogant spirit leading each person to start thinking all of them are equally qualified to teach which gave birth to contradictions here and there leading to different religious sects calling themselves DENOMINATIONS instead of ABOMINATION!

By their FRUITS you will know!

Which means there is a unique FRUIT to watch out for because any prophet that is producing this FRUIT can't be a false prophet just as no bad tree can produce good fruit! Matthew 7:16-18

This is true even though i don't need to watch the video because i have learned it from true Christians!