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femi4:
You should ask yourself if Jesus put image into consideration when he gave that order. Jesus n his Apostles preached in diverse environment

The Bible (Scriptures) says about Jesus:

He will not quarrel nor cry aloud, nor will anyone hear his voice in the main streets. Matthew 12:19 compare to Isaiah 12:2

Is there any other way to explain that he was not shouting in their streets?

MightySparrow:
So, kings cannot preach to another king?

Why do you like deceiving yourself?

Jesus commanded his disciples to go and visit people in their homes {Matthew 10:11-13} if Jesus the highest ranking son of God could come down to the earth preaching and teaching from house to house and humbly knocking on people's doors just to reach both the rich and the poor with the Good News who are you to dictate how you will do the work of the Lord?

Slenderer!
I will always be ahead of you because i'm using the full strength of the scriptures to back whatever i say while you are just seeking a counter argument.
So sit back and watch how sincere and honest hearted individuals grasp the truth! John 8:32

achorladey:
Now it is, is it by shouting indiscriminately. What is your business with shouting indiscriminately. You call what others are doing shouting indiscriminately.
When a town crier enters your community, they come into your sitting room to deliver the message of the baale or king. I don't understand.
Do the apostles preach publicly? Yes they did. Do they preach in marketplaces? Yes they did. How they do it shouting, whispering, crying or dancing is none of your business from here. Your thread title was about it having an impact? Yes, many who listened him publicly later invited him to their homes for more and by so doing some were converted.
You have lost your way in your own thread
Does not remove the fact that they preach publicly and in marketplace.
Does not mean they didn't preach publicly and it was effective.
I hold a bell and raised my voice using a microphone and speaker to tell you about a mobile device that will be of benefit to you in the middle of the marketplace or public spaces. To you Peacecore it is shouting indiscriminately, to others I am making announcement, advertising or as it were proclamation about something. In no time you see people approaching me to know about what you call indiscriminate shouting or noisemaking.
Peacecore is not a toddler, are you?

arantess:
It can be done on the street too.
In revelation, there are two witnesses preaching the gospel and they did it on the street.

That's an illustration not a real life event!

AngelahFlo:
This your analogy is an eye opener!!!
That must be the reason Jesus pretended not to hear but took interest in doodling on the ground while they keep pestering him with their words. Which was why when he asked the question no one could stand the guilt that wracked them to the core of their being. They had to leave the place. Thanks for this!!!

You are welcome!

achorladey:
That's Acts 17:17 I referenced. Do you have your own bias about preaching in public places like the marketsquare?

How did the apostles preach in market places?
Is it by shouting at passersby or speaking to individuals who want to listen to them?
In their first public preaching the Bible recorded that each of their listeners was hearing the one talking to him in his own mother tongue. Act 2:6
Please how could this be possible is they were just shouting indiscriminately at passersby?

Peacecore:
It's your opinion though.

Sometimes it's good to read what goes on around you.

Do Kumuyi, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Mouka, Olukoya and Oyakilome goes to streets and buses to preach?
How come we are seeing what they said inside their churches on the Internet?

God's organization called the first part of our meeting on Sundays:
"Public Talk"
Why?
Because that's when we preach what our Master Lord and King Christ Jesus revealed to us in the secret not on the streets!

Peacecore:
Wisdom will never depart from you, brother. I hope this full detailed explanation here can get to them. They're seriously making gest of Christianity, and I'm bothered. Peace with you also, and remain blessed.

Amen in Jesus name!
One thing i so much love in the TRUTH is how easily explainable, straightforward and sweet to grasp for honest hearted and sincere individuals! John 8:32

If we all know that shouting in the streets and in buses doesn't make any sense and that it's written in the Bible that Jesus doesn't shout in the streets {Matthew 12:19} then there's no need arguing further with whoever wants to continue deceiving himself!

wale2020:
JW. Weldone.
I still have issues with your Gospel. Your stands on the deity of Christ is still questionable. Jesus is Lord.

Of course Jesus is Lord who says otherwise?

Why is it that you people don't grasp the simple illustrations Jesus is using?

Jesus is telling his disciples to declare the secret things he taught them in the congregations (churches) not in the streets because that will negate the way he laid the foundation of house to house and the humble approach of asking for permission to speak.

It's wrong shouting at people who don't want to listen to your message that's what John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth never did in the first century!

Kayberg:
“What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.”
— Matthew 10:27 (KJV)
Matthew 28 (KJV)
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¹⁸ And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
¹⁹ Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
²⁰ Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

MightySparrow:
Ask them na! No kings in your organization?

NO!
We are all humble preachers and teachers of the Good News of God's Kingdom, we must go about knocking on people's doors no matter our financial status that's what no traditional ruler can do! Luke 18:18-23

OLAADEGBU:
How can we help people find their way back to God after seeing so much evil in the world?
Conservative Party leader Kemi Badenoch said she lost her faith after being deeply disturbed by the case of Austrian sex offender Josef Fritzl.
Share your views and join us on Inspirational Breakfast tomorrow from 7AM.

In the first place she was never in Christ she can't loose faith if she knew what Jesus preached and taught about God's Kingdom where injustice will be squashed for good so let her listen to the good news of God's Kingdom then she will choose between human government and God's Kingdom!

Daniel058:
you can see from the bible that he asked him to go there because of what he had promised to do for him... The instructions came with with a promise, go back And read Genesis 12vs 1-3

According to Genesis 11 Abraham's father joined the movement has God made any promise?
NO!
It's after leaving that place that God told him what will happen in the place his is going! Genesis 12:1-3

jojothaiv:
Some Nairaland resident scientists say na conspiracy.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

We are Africans unless we are deceiving ourselves we all know what it means to be a traditional ruler in Africa!

Successsearch90:
Pls enlighten me, wise one

Why do you address me as "WISE ONE"?

Nobody is wise except God! Romans 16:27

All traditionalists have one thing in common:
They worship traditional gods so those rulers are second in command to the deities worshiped in different locations so if they are not in the occult nobody can make them traditional king!

judewrites:
My friend don't be a confusionist....
I have already explained everything in my post.If you don't believe, it's okay. We all entitled to our opinions. This isn't North Korea_ LOL.

It's OK, thanks for your time!

TradingGod:
God Bless you bro
You must wear your best outfit when going to church because you are going to see the King of Kings

We are going to the meeting where Jesus is the chairperson {Matthew 18:20} and his father is our God! John 20:17

VinnyBaba:
Is it Long Sleeve, Trouser, Tie you are Hyping like this?
Bcus I know you are a Jehovah's witness.
+Umbrella and Black bag.

You think it's everytime we must go about preaching?
Ọmọ we dey go party and not everyday we go to our place of worship that we go out from there to preach so we get swag pass all of unah it's only when we want to go preaching that you identify us as preachers! Act 11:26

Daniel058:
did the bible said anything about God there? No

Who asked Abraham to leave Ur for the land of Canaan?

judewrites:
Lucifer was the most beautiful angel in heaven.

He became proud and rebelled against God with a third of the angels.

God threw Lucifer down with those angels to earth which previously was Lucifer's throne.

This has nothing to do with the watchers who decided on their own will to mate with women.

They were enticed by the beautiful women they saw.

Where did the Bible says WATCHERS got enticed by women?
Who are angels that left their dwelling places? Jude 1:6

Is the so called traditional king and his cohorts preaching and teaching to make disciples just as Jesus commanded? Matthew 10:11-13, 28:19-20

MightySparrow:
You are not absolutely correct. I remember a king in Ekiti. He is a Christian. The traditionalists asked him to do particular sacrifice for rain to fall that year. He confidently told them that he had prayed and that God had assured him of rain falling that day. It happened, that day and the in end some of his chiefs believe in Jesus. Things are happening Sir. There are genuine believers among traditional rulers. Their own form of PIMOs of Jehovah's Witnesses.

musicwriter:
Everything is wrong with CHURCHES and being a CHRISTIAN but i've noticed that you don't like discussing it so let's leave it at that! Thank you

You're welcome!

judewrites:
It's was never written than satan tempted these angels...

They acted on their own volution!

It was first their leader who suggested it and offered to be the sole scapegoat if God punished them.

However they all took an oath and vowed to suffer together any punishment for their involvement with women.

Oh i guess you read chronologically but my comment is based on future research in the scriptures:

Another sign was seen in heaven. Look! A great fiery-colored dragon, with seven heads and ten horns and on its heads seven diadems; and its tail drags a third of the stars of heaven, and it hurled them down to the earth. And the dragon kept standing before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she did give birth, it might devour her child. Revelations 12:3-4

Daniel058:
Genesis 12vs 1-3

12 The Lord had said to Abram, “Go from your country, your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you.

2 “I will make you into a great nation,
and I will bless you;
I will make your name great,
and you will be a blessing.[a]
3 I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;
and all peoples on earth
will be blessed through you.”[/b]

Now go back to Genesis 11:30-32

Now Sarʹai was barren; she had no child. Teʹrah then took Aʹbram his son and Lot his grandson, the son of Haʹran, and Sarʹai his daughter-in-law, the wife of Aʹbram his son, and they went with him out of Ur of the Chal·deʹans to go to the land of Caʹnaan. In time they came to Haʹran and began dwelling there. The days of Teʹrah were 205 years. Then Teʹrah died in Haʹran.

If you see me and my wife going to our place of worship you'll feel bad for not being in a happy marriage.
We always put on the best because going to the house of my God and father worths my best outfit i can't compare it to visiting Tinubu in Aso rock or Trump in Whitehouse!

They are angels deceived by Satan he used sexual pleasures to make them turn against God!

omooba969:
You would have failed woefully in an exam if this was your answer to the question posed by the Op.

Mr Redeemer you're not the examiner here so keep your observations to yourself!

Daniel058:
God commanded him and made him promises, the promise is the reason why he accepted to obey his instructions.

NO!
Go and read the story again he just want to make a spirit friend just like most of his contemporaries this spirit started promising Abraham after he left his home, friends and families.

musicwriter:
There's nothing wrong with being a traditionalists or worship in shrines.

If we enslaved Europeans, they'll be "traditionalists" too and worship wherever we want them to.

By the way, those shrines didn't evolve to become mega churches and worship centres because we were deceived with a different religion. What you see today is an edifice stuck in the past

Everything is wrong with shrines and being a traditionalist but i've noticed that you don't like discussing it so let's leave it at that!

There are two King of kings o!

Jesus is the King of kings because he has trained thousands how to rule with him in heaven and he promised to take them their! John 14:1-3; Revelations 20:5-6

Satan is also the King of kings because he rules over all untrained kings of the world {1John 5:19} in fact Jesus acknowledged Satan as the ruler of the world {John 14:30} and as the God who controls the world {2Corinthians 4:4} he has the right to appoint anyone who pleases him to rule with him now {Luke 4:5-7} until God's Kingdom comes {Matthew 6:10} to wipe Satan and all his corulers out forever! Daniel 2:44

Daniel058:
God made a promise remember?, so he had something to gain in the relationship. That's why he accepted,and the spirit (God)was able to convince him that he's better than the spirits ( Fallen angels) speaking to other people in those days.

Their relationship never started with a promise.
That's my point!

musicwriter:
You actually have to be spiritually dead not to see the slavery in that picture.
Foreigners came to your land, took your ancient practice, changed it to their taste and successfully enslaved you with it. The picture says it all

That's not the point.
These people are TRADITIONALISTS who worships in SHRINES otherwise they can't be crowned as traditional rulers.
You may think Christianity is all about slavery that's wrong you haven't known true Christianity!