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PulsingPurple:
Was rushing to type.

Meant to say:

If we try to follow this idea of everyone being "sure" of what they were pushing about the other's religion, then to me you've said many wrongs about my religion, and I've said many wrongs about yours too.

That aside.

Let's focused on the bolded you typed.

The point I'm trying to pass is that if everyone follows that idea of being sure, then anytime you speak about Christianity, everyone true Christian will tell you:

"You are a liar, that's not what Jesus Christ teaches"

Just the same way to you:

"I am a liar, that's not what Jehovah's Witnesses teaches"

I don't know if you get the point now?

As for my religion and your conclusions, I don't even know what's the basis for concluding but we talked about all those in the past. 😅
I pushed to continue those conversations back then but I think you didn't reply as I expected so the conversation eventually ended. Some of those comments and replies I made on that thread, I later deleted them at some point and you got to know it later, if you remember.

I even went as far as inviting you to a new dormant thread to continue this talk about my religion (and people's religion in general) but you never responded.

These days I have only enough strength to say I'm a Christian. That's all. 😌

So yhh, back to the points we were making:
I misrepresent your religion. No offence but you can't really complain seeing that you misrepresent mine too.
That's been the norm for a while. It's awful.

(I took note of the correction you made sha).

PulsingPurple:
Don't worry you're safe.
I think it's okay since it goes in the reverse as well.

If everyone tried to be be "sure" of what they were pushing about the other's religion, then to me you've said many wrongs about my religion, and I've said many wrongs about yours too.

We won't go there sha, we've been there before 😏

AlbertNewton:
Why are you being silly? That reply wasn't meant for you. I was having a conversation with someone and it lead to me asking some questions as a follow-up.

AlbertNewton:
Okay, everlasting life for witnesses and everlasting damnation (aka burning forever in hell) for others. Nice 👍

Now please tell me (summarily), how or why did you become a member of the JW ?
And also, if you were born somewhere in the middle east to a devout Muslim parents, do you think you would still be a witness ?

AlbertNewton:
I really don't have the energy to respond to this now.
But just tell me summarily what do you stand to benefit as Jehovah Witnesses that other Christians or even other people will not have access to ? Or in other words, if I am not a Jehovah's Witness, what am I loosing or what will I lose ?

PulsingPurple:
Okay oo... 🙌

PulsingPurple:
If it is this argument, after commending Max for being a fellow believer, I'll still join and bash the claims and as usual he might respond till we hit redundancy. 😅

All in all, the idea that about 144,000 people only will be saved means that a majority of the JWs will face the same fate with me.

Every body pushing true Christianity will somehow convince you to just love and contribute your best towards humanity, especially to those who might be at the lowest of lows (in the morally upright ways).

Combine this with the mindset that there's a loving creator somewhere and that he's reached out to you, and that's where most of us agree, and I'm sure we can gain some points for passing basic requirements, without needing to go into details of doctrines.

AlbertNewton:
[1] What makes them the "true worshippers" ?

[2] Who declared them as such ?

[3] So you're basically saying that billions of other Christians don't know what they are doing ?

AlbertNewton:
So who are the true worshippers ?

PulsingPurple:
Simple!
“I believe in God but I have Him and won't give Him credits” ≠ Atheism.

There's only two definitions: “I don't believe in your own God“ and “Personally, I don't believe at all“.

The aggressive version of no. 1 is too popular on NL unfortunately.

PulsingPurple:
At this point it's just like someone telling me that water is liquid. I already know, believe, trust.
Those who don't believe, I can only try to understand them, even possibly convince, I don't gain or lose anything.
It's not even worth arguing sometimes. The very concept of a God is self explanatory in itself, the proofs are so obvious that people have to set up structures to worship they just can't hold the idea that all these is just some random coincidence in the middle of nowhere, by nothing. Science displays what can be interpreted as a hierarchy of ranking across all species, substances, plants, social ranking, name it, but people choose to say the highest tier in the ranking of the universe is some random dust that appeared from nowhere. Earth alone has shown us there's always a creator—creation relationship everywhere (look around you and point anything) but they choose the idea that whatever created this level of intelligence somehow has zero capacity of intelligence. To any atheist out there: Make this claim sound intelligent please.
Their fellow scientists are already adjusting, allowing space to attribute everything to an intelligent designer.
Reaching out to space hoping to hear they're not alone and that something more intelligent is out there. At the end of the day I think there's two main types of atheists: Those who just hate God from a personal perspective, and just like critics, they'll criticize every idea that aims to glorify their enemy. Take a cue from Messi vs. Ronaldo arguments, iPhone vs. Samsung... Arguments that could sound sensible but these category of people are just here to spew before thinking. (Same goes for religious people btw). There's the other calm group of atheists who just don't believe.
They're sensible enough to analyse all the points from both end but they can't convince themselves of God's existence. Those types are rarely seen on Nairaland 😂

lawani:
What I am addressing is what Christians and Muslims have turned it to. They are saying it is a sin against God. What does it truly mean with respect to JW?

AlbertNewton:
Who are you referring to ?

lawani:
Is idolatry wrong?.
It should be illegal for anyone to be saying publicly that idolatry is bad or that God opposes it. Nobody should be allowed to be saying the almighty father God is burning idolators in hell fire. All human cultures know what God opposes and that is evil doing. Nobody needs to be taught what is evil.
Religionists are just using the idolatry is bad argument to cause problems all over the world. Just like your earthly parents can not say do not greet other people, the almighty Father God too can not say do not worship lesser Gods.
The religionists are just using their mentality to cause problems worldwide and it is high time the governments of the world rose to stop it. A stitch in time saves nine.

AlbertNewton:
The bolded is true. And I think that's largely because the biblical god has become the most popular of all the numerous gods out there. Furthermore, there's a book, the bible, that's purported to contain accounts of the deeds and words of this god, providing disprovable grounds to argue for or against the realness or existence of such an entity. Through the omniscience and omnipotence qualities often attributed to it, the biblical god also comes the closest to what might "make sense" for a creator of the universe to be like. In a way, if it can be established that the biblical god is not real, then we can safely say that none of the other gods can be real!

I was raised in a Christian home, but as a result of the stupid and evil things that were recorded God did (and said) in the bible, as well as the ridiculousness of the idea of heaven and hell, I couldn't see the biblical god as real let alone as the creator of the universe. And because I can't find a better replacement for the biblical god, I ended up an atheist.
Since we are yet to fully grasp existence (the cause and the purpose of it), I'm all for the possibility that there could be some entity out there that actually created the universe, but I'm convinced it's not the blood-thirsty, tribalistic monster talked about in the bible.

donnie:
Yes, because they're the Elohim (God) of creation and founders of civilization. We are connected directly (by DNA) to deity.

PulsingPurple:
We're only human, pride won't let us... 😅
Meanwhile I'm looking for one serious atheist to come and continue a conversation that one of their friends couldn't hold together.

Lucifyre:
Or that an airplane's BLACKbox is not black. 😄

Ken4Christ:
What do you understand prophecy to be. It's foretelling the future events. This they have done several times and all have failed.
Go and search the Internet for their many failed prophecies.

PulsingPurple:
And rightly so, maybe I should also add my praises/observations too. For the consistency. Omoo, we move. 😅
The whole idea is that people will pick a style of argument where they think they'll have the upper hand. Once you start playing a bit wider than their expectations or introducing twists they didn't anticipate, the whole conversation crashes, they convert it to sentiments, redundant lines, misquotes, insults, jokes, etc etc. Most of the regulars here are still guilty sha, even you sef. 😏

PulsingPurple:
Normally. 😅
Sha rest small, you sef don too drag person for this platform

Nnamdipapa:
Max, do not descend to the levels of these people, and never let them get to you. I have noticed your interactions on NL for years and I see emotional maturity and the way you carry yourself, I have yet to see in the average Pentecostal Christian.

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

PulsingPurple:
Mek una leave my thread 😂😂
Una no well at all 😅

Lucifyre:
I'm out 😅, my aim here's done.

Lucifyre:
🤣🤣🤣

Lucifyre:
Jesu!!!🙆🏽🙆🏽🙆🏽

Ive been laughing for a min 🤣🤣🤣. Like I said my aim was to demonstrate you loud ignorance. Thanks for the bolded. You literally made me lol.

Lucifyre:
You are free to say whatever, changes nothing, same way we treat flat earthers insisting the earth is flat. We did not get the images of m87 and Sagittarius from awake magazine. 😌 Feast ur eyes.

Lucifyre:
Grasp at straws all you want wouldn't change fact.