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The phrase "BORN AGAIN" is deeper than what most people think.

Real born again Christians don't even do something that can make them popular because they are only known among true Christians and not in the world as they spend 90% of their time preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom not for secular works!

Emusan:
Jesus is God according to John 1:1, true or false?

FALSE!

The verse reads "WAS God" just as Moses {Exodus 7:1} and other creatures WERE Gods at some point in time {Psalms 82:1,6} only JEHOVAH IS God from everlasting to everlasting! Psalms 90:1-2

fuckJones:
Why do you want to go to heaven?

No ancient servant of God wish to go to heaven because God never wanted man to live in heaven.

First time faithful people heard that they will go to heaven they were confused in fact they found it really strange and they started asking Jesus who told them many questions regarding this new plan.

So what led to this new development?

Jesus was to rule in Jerusalem (zion) the throne of David {Isaiah 9:6-7} and in the whole world faithful people will have to depend on the Jews for our salvation {Zechariah 8:23} but the Jews made their city an accursed land {Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38} in fact they unanimously said the blood of innocent Jesus should be asked from them {Matthew 27:24-25} something God warned them never to try! Deuteronomy 27:25

That's why Jesus told his faithful friends that they should forget about Jerusalem because in his father's house (heaven) their are many dwelling places so he is going to PREPARE another place for them where they will stay as his corulers. John 14:1-3 compare to Revelations 14:1

Originally only Israelites supposed to be his corulers {Revelations 7:5-7} but if checked carefully you will notice that the names listed in Revelations 7:5-7 is not the real name of the twelve tribes of Israel {Exodus 1:2-5} and that is because the book of Revelations was written in parables.

Jesus used an illustration to tell us why his corulers must come from different nations of the earth! Matthew 22:2-14

All angels are God's Son including the one who rebelled against God (Satan) but when God decided to introduce the perfect model human so that all obedient humans may emulate He turned His most loyal Son into human and sent him to us as Jesus! John 3:16

This is how Politics leads to hatred and killings among people but when it comes out in full color the blame will be heaped on religion whereas no religion teaches her members to kill innocent neighbors!

Emusan:
Your business, nobody asked you.
@color-red is the main point.
Since you agreed that President (God) and a President(God) mean the same thing. Why did you always use John 1:1 as a support that Jesus is not God but a god? If God and a God mean the same thing, you shouldn't have problem when some version of John 1:1 that says "...and the word was God"
That is the point.

You don't understand my posts all these while but i will clarify it today.

JEHOVAH is God because He is always God from everlasting to everlasting but as for Moses and Jesus both WERE Gods in the sense that they are not always God Jehovah made them whatever they are!

Emusan:
Why did you bring John 1:1 into the discussion.

Emusan:
The person you quoted cited John 1:1

First of all i didn't quote him rather he is the one who quoted me first.
Secondly i don't even remember when he brought John 1:1 what he said is God is different from a God which i told him that President and a President means the same thing!

EnlightenedUFO:
If you point a finger at me and call me names instead of actually asking yourself this question, that is a problem.

Because I'm amazed why so many Christians are just blatantly ignoring the genocide in Gaza. Are we in a mass hysteria and hypnosis?

Who do you call a Christian?

Is it someone who joins thousands that's claiming they believe in Jesus or someone who actually OBEY Jesus' orders? Matthew 15:8-9

Emusan:
You didn't answer my question.
Why did you bring John 1:1 into the discussion when you know there's no different between A GOD and GOD?
Very simple question.

Am i the one who brought John 1:1?

After saying "don't judge" Jesus added:

"With the judgment you are judging, you will be judged, and with the measure that you are measuring out, they will measure out to you." Matthew 7:2

Now what does that mean?

Well Jesus is hereby saying the yardstick you used in judging others is what God will use to judge you!

Wow! That's means TROUBLE for many!

How?

Because if God says:

It's wrong to eat or drink too much which means being a glutton or drunkard is bad {Proverbs 23:20-21} but you accused your neighbor for drinking alcoholic beverages when he/she never got drunk then you are in trouble with God!

Remember God said "don't take too much" while you "don't take at all" you've made yourself a child of the devil!

That's exactly what Satan insinuated in the garden of Eden when he said to Eve:

“Did God really say that you must not eat from every tree of the garden?” Genesis 3:1

Whereas what God told humans is:

“We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden. But God has said about the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden: ‘You must not eat from it, no, you must not touch it; otherwise you will die.’” Genesis 3:2-3

So you setting your own standard against God's standard is not the problem but you mustn't go behind to live by God's standard again rather you too must live by the standard you set otherwise God will not judge you based on His own standard anymore rather it's by the standard you set that God will judge you even though all others are to be judged by God's standard! Matthew 7:2

Judgment belongs to God alone.

WHY?

Because humans can't see the deeper things that led to situations surrounding the accused that's why the scriptures said God's appointed judge (Jesus Christ) will judge not just what is visible to the eyes but what is in the minds of people both the accused and the complainant. Isaiah 11:1-5

So when Jesus said "don't judge" he does not want his friends to judge simply out of what they can see but use discernment to know what lead the accused into such a degrading situation.

Therefore if anything happens between two persons Jesus said we should settle it for them amicably because even though the wrongdoer is left unpunished at the moment God knows the thoughts of his heart and his punishment will depend not on what he did but on what his heart chooses to do regarding the wrongdoing for which he was accused.

Ken4Christ:
Even the devil have admirers.

You are so brainwashed that you don't even know the meaning of EVIL!

Emusan:
You know this yet you quickly brought John 1:1 as “...a god" to prove how Jesus isn't GOD.
So why did you claim Jesus is not GOD but a god according to John 1:1 if there's no different between the two words?

Moses was a God too! Exodus 7:1

That is not preaching!

In ancient Israel when God send a prophet to the people such a prophet is AUTHORIZED to shout in their streets and declare his message without greeting anyone because the message is from the God (King) who singlehandedly brought them out of Egypt and secured that place for them by His mighty hand.

That is why Jonah was scared when God sent him to go and declare a message in a strange land where the people there have no idea about the laws of this God.

The last Israelite prophet who shouted did not do it in their streets but in the wilderness! John 1:33

WHY?

Because in the first century Jews were no longer a free nation rather they were under the Roman colony so shouting in the streets can be taken as constituting nuisance so he has to go far away from their cities.

When Jesus of Nazareth commissioned Christianity he ordered his disciples not to go and disturb people who don't know their God {Matthew 10:6} and when they are in the streets they must approach a house and say a greeting {Matthew 10:12} something like asking for a permission to speak if the householder decline they should take their leave quietly {Matthew 10:13} Jesus added that any Jew who rejects them will be punished by their God because it has been written in their scriptures that such a thing will happen when the Christ is around they will receive strangers who will come with a message of hope for the Jews! Isaiah 42:2 compare Matthew 12:19

All these must occur because by the time Christ Jesus walked the earth his people were no longer a free nation they were under the Romans so they have to thread cautiously! Matthew 10:16

So today if anyone claims he's preaching for Jesus and standing in a bus or street disturbing passersby with noise such a person still needs to be taught like Apollos one of the disciples of John the baptist who was preaching and teaching in the manner of John the baptist! Act 18:24-26

I don't think any religion cause war but it is POLITICS that causes wars the only part FALSE RELIGIONS play is it has been used as a tool for politicians to gather gullible people who want to kill or get killed for credulity!

No religion teaches that it's good to kill innocent people and when we talk about innocent people we mean those who has done nothing deserving punishment in anyway. But by the time a politician is desperate for office he/she will brainwash gullible people in the name of God to kill their neighbors for his or her own selfish ambitions.
If only most people can sit down and have a rethink politicians will have nothing to say to make people kill people!

Jerryhare:
If you agreed that Paul was servant of God and you said scriptures was completed after the demise of all servants of God, so how did Paul met God, where did he read about him or did you accept Jesus as God in your Russell religion




See how Russell has finished you, so Paul who you called servant Of God wasn't adequately equipped about the knowledge of God's words and commandments right and how was he servant of God then?




Did Jesus has mission to fulfil in OT? his birth, death and resurrection was foretold in OT I think you know




Who and Where in OT?

Is this how Russell gathered you inside hall to be brainwashed?

Guy you don't have anything tangible to say it's obvious you know nothing about God's word but when you are ready meet sincere people they will help you!

FreeIgboho:
Racist what? What has this to do with racist. I'm telling you that's what cults do - they LIE! Go to certain areas and try going nearby JW's home - they'll call the cops on you. Kingdom halls are segregated, blacks with blacks, whites with whites

This one no sabi anything yet him won argue about faith in God!

See pictures of God's people as in LOVE in action!

Go and ask South Africans what stopped Apartied in that country.

All religions were having their place of worship separately according to their skin color but by the time Jehovah's Witnesses had our assembly Pope John Paul called all world rulers together and all religious leaders telling them that Jehovah's Witnesses have given them a heavy blow by defying the segregation happening in South Africa.

Don't allow stubborness to blind you now ask anyone around you about the love that reigns among Jehovah's Witnesses! John 13:34-35

Archangel Michael is working wonders in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses! Daniel 12:1-3

FreeIgboho:
Read below again

You've been lied to.

Just quote a publication of Jehovah's Witnesses where Jesus is worshiped and you're done!

FreeIgboho:
Jesus is embodiment of God's Kingdom. If he is PHYSICALLY in your house God's kingdom is in your house. That doesn't mean you have God's Kingdom in you

Now you have much lies to cover since Jesus is no longer PHYSICALLY on earth is the kingdom of God here now?

Or is anyone having God's Kingdom?

FreeIgboho:
Exactly what I'm telling you - they were telling black JW in Jim Crow America same lie, knowing fully well no white JW will let them in their homes.
That's what cults specialize in - half-truths!

RACIST EXPOSED;

Our own Jesus (Archangel Michael) works wonders by uniting us throughout the earth that's why i'm telling you that we will never ever raise weapons against our fellow believers no matter what color such a person may be! John 13 :34-35

FreeIgboho:
Give example where Jesus kept changing who they could worship or not worship

God's people never worshiped anyone else except Jehovah the God and father of all.
Jehovah's Witnesses never worshiped Jesus only Jehovah is our God that's why we bear His name!

But when it comes to changing of certain beliefs Jesus surely corrected the beliefs of his disciples!

FreeIgboho:
I already did. The Kingdom of God (Jesus) was physically in their midst. Quite different from when a person has the Kingdom within himself

So which one is correct, that Jesus in their midst or that God's Kingdom is in people?

FreeIgboho:
Did Jesus lie to any black person in deeply segregated Jim Crow America that they can go a JW in a white neighborhood and have a home?

See RACIST claiming believer!

Peter asked Jesus:

“Look! We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?" Matthew 19:27

Jesus replied:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news  who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life." Mark 10:29-30

So according to Jesus what will assure me that i'm truly one of his blessed friends?

I'll have brothers and sisters everywhere his disciples are because we are ONE in the faith {John 17:22} and love will bound us together {John 13:34-35} that will be the first and foremost sign that i am truly among Jesus' true disciples!

FreeIgboho:
That's why I told you never say never because they will change again

Just as Jesus keep changing the beliefs of his disciples in the first century shey?

FreeIgboho:
This is what cults tell their members to keep them chained and never taste freedom. An obvious lie

So Jesus lied shey?
No wonder he told us that you people will call us a CULT:

“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" Matthew 10:24-25

FreeIgboho:
A person with the Kingdom of God (Jesus) within him can't be a "murderous religious leader".

FreeIgboho:
In Luke 17:21, Jesus tells the Pharisees that the Kingdom of God is "within you"
It exists within a person with the presence of Christ within that person, and amongst people with the presence of Christ amongst them.

Oya expatiate!

Petalss:
Your wish

The truth is there is nothing like Hellfire anywhere!

But since the Catholics don't have the Holy Spirit Jesus promised his disciples as the active force that will give them the boldness to speak {Act 1:8} before strangers and feel safe even though they are killed! Matthew 10:28

Catholics carry weapons to force their beliefs on people which totally negates what Jesus commanded his disciples {Matthew 10:16} and that's exactly what they did to Africans threatening them with death and torture.

God never said He will torture anyone in fire! Jeremiah 7:31

Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or SORCERY, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft. ‭Deuteronomy 18:10 NIV‬

SORCERY is demonic according to God's word!

FreeIgboho:
😅
Just wait
See below

Just as John the baptist taught people and Jesus changed it so that Jews were mocking them that they keep jumping back and forth in their beliefs!

FreeIgboho:
They keep telling you this lie. This is what every cultish church tells it's members

Just as Jesus told his disciples:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news  who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life." Mark 10:29-30

Today i have brothers and sisters in all the places where Jehovah's Witnesses are throughout the earth and anywhere i get to on this planet as long as JWs are there i have a home waiting for me.

So Jesus is the head of this CULT that's what he promised us! Matthew 10:24-25