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MightySparrow:
In the sense of Bible prophecy and prophets JWs does not fall in the position of prophets at all.

You haven't answered the question:

Are you really sure they are not false prophets?
If you do why has their prophecies:
"Repent, for God's Kingdom is at hand "
delayed for almost 2,000 years?

If you know the answer to that question or not i will prove to you that both John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth are on the same page as JWs because they said what seems never coming from the perspective of those who don't have understanding.

delkuf:
does this answer the question

Excellently!
Jesus didn't go anywhere until the day he bids farewell to the earth by ascending to the heavens before then he kept preparing his faithful friends for the task ahead.

delkuf:
i wasn't the one that said this, it eas gohf. So you should be referring to him

He made himself clear that salvation is not free because works is involved but you said it involves faith alone so that's why i'm asking you.

How do you distinguish between those who truly believe from those with credulity?

LordReed:
That is not what I said to you so don't start your lies. I defended JWs when misinformation was being written about them. Has nothing to do with your faith or your religion.

What misinformation was WRITTEN about Jehovah's Witnesses so that it's you who doesn't believe in what they practice had to defend?

delkuf:
I am not asking what he meant. I am asking if the Lord Jesus ascend to my Father and your Father, did he decend back to earth again. Very simple

If you call an African man and he say "i'm coming" does it mean he is moving towards you?

The language Jesus spoke wasn't English so if you don't care to know what he meant then you can't know what he did.

delkuf:
no that is it. You know that is not it. They didn't believe. They hear the gospel of Christ but they didn't believe.

If they believe lie and strongly think they believe the truth while quoting the Bible with all zealousness how can you prove them wrong?

delkuf:
I would like to ask to ask, after the death of the Lord Jesus when he resurrected, he told Mary mardalene in John 20:17
"Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to your brethren, snd say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God".
Jesus told Mary that he ascend to his Father and our Father, my God and your God. My question now is, WHEN THE LORD JESUS ASCENDED DID HE DECEND TO EARTH AGAIN. Did he came back to earth

“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”

He is no longer in the body they knew so it's in heaven when himself and his born again brothers assemble again is when they will have the privilege to do all that they used to do together again.

That's what he meant!

melanch:
Naija pastors will run away.

You don't know naija pastors o!

Odeshi dey, otumohpoh!

gohf:
because going to church is supposed to save them or prove they are saved 🙄🤦

Jesus' comment at Matthew 7:21-23 shows that salvation is not free because he emphasized on "DOING GOD'S WILL" which means doing some WORKS are involved! James 2:18-26

Truthseeker10:
I invited you because I needed your opinion. Not the other way round. You can simply ignore the thread if you have nothing to say from the Bible that you claim contradicts itself.

Apt!

delkuf:
answer the question. You have been asking me questions and I have been answering you, so you answer this one question, why would someone go to church, hear the gospel of Christ and still not get save

Because salvation is NOT free otherwise whoever claims he believes in Jesus and goes to church on Sundays supposed to be saved!

LordReed:
I explained it to you.

In a nutshell you DEFENDED faith even though you don't believe in having faith.
That shows there is wisdom in faith which makes you see reasons why you need to defend those having true faith.
Thanks!

Truthseeker10:
You need rest.

Walahi talahi the boy need rest o!

LordReed:
Trust you to twist it to suit your narrative. LoLz.

You could have explained what you meant by saying you defended Jehovah's Witnesses nah!

LordReed:
Thank you.

You're welcome anytime Mr Atheist defender of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Gabrielshow24:
This is a lie😂😂😂.
If John had said Heaven will come 1056, by now we would have termed him a liar!!!
When Jesus was asked, he told his disciples clearly that his Father will declare it!!!

He didn't declare it for his Father nor gave awful speculations!!!😂😂😂

He only told his disciples about the signs!!!

Your organization 🤨 decided in their own infinite wisdom that Christ was coming in the 1800's then progressively changed it to 1914👀.

Do you see the difference?🤨
Don't use that as an excuse, Christ is not a false prophet as compared to your "8 men in Chicago" 👀

"Repent, for God's Kingdom is at hand"
Matthew 3:2; 4:17

Some versions says
"God's Kingdom is near"

It's two thousand years after and God's Kingdom has not come.

Please how long is this "at hand" or "near"?

MightySparrow:
No they are not

Good!
Are you really sure they are not false prophets?
If you do why has their prophecies:
"Repent, for God's Kingdom is at hand "
delayed for almost 2,000 years?

MightySparrow:
Okay. I am interested. I ask for explanation.

Before answering you what do you think about John's and Jesus' pronouncement that God's Kingdom is at hand or do you believe they are both false prophets as what they said has not come since 2,000 years ago?

LordReed:
WTF are you on about? What did what I said have anything to do with your gibberish? Worried about you? No I'm worried for you so that you don’t become a liability to society.

Defender of Jehovah's Witnesses!

delkuf:
do all humans believe in the cross

delkuf:
@gohf is salvation not free.

Everyone claims they believe so
Salvation is FREEEEEEEEEE!

sonmvayina:
The most wise man in this forum.

And who gives you that title?

sonmvayina:
I am not claiming or arguing anything.
My only point is that we all have to keep the divine laws so that we will live in peace. There is nothing in the grave, we are all hastening to.

Where is the GROUP that's keeping the divine laws?
Everyone claims they are keeping God's word yet there is no way to ascertain who are keeping the laws of the true God.
So present the GROUP practicing what God said let's learn from them!

Emusan:
Shameless lying liar.

Below is a direct message from your own gods in Warwick.

Things to know!

1. The Title which asked: "What did Jesus do before he came to the Earth?"

2. The last part which says: "He served as the Word.

Now that your own organization claimed Jesus has been the WORD of God before coming to Earth.

Why did you lie that Jesus only became the Word of God after his mission on earth?

Let's see the person his blood is getting hot right now

POLITENESS or keep on ranting!

Truthseeker10:
Is this not tctrills that claims that the bible contradicts itself? Welcome oo.

He will not say anything specific!

delkuf:
we are saved by what the Lord Jesus did on the cross.

So all humans are saved, right?

MightySparrow:
Congratulations. You would have been speaking about an Allah in the ka'aba asking Muslims to kill and annihilate anything Jews and Christians in jihads but now sharing the love of God.

Many atheists on this forum are worried after discussing with me for instance the atheist LordReed once said he defended JWs!
Can you imagine that?
Well that is after pondering over how i've been putting meaning to what those churches taught them in times past that got all of them pissed off now they having a rethink over what the Bible says.
I can tell you the first thing that got the guy thinking twice.
Many people are saying JWs are false prophets for anticipating God's Kingdom since the year 1914 but when i said it's not a crime because John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth both said God's Kingdom is at hand some 2,000 years ago yet God's Kingdom is not here so whoever calls JWs false prophets for their anticipation should also call both John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth false prophets too because both of them said God's Kingdom is at hand yet it's now 2000 years since they both walked this planet.

I expected any interested person to ask questions regarding this but since no one feels like asking i kept the knowledge!

Thankgod89:
Where do you get the idea that the 144,000 are completely free from Satan’s final test? Any biblical reference?

The first resurrection belongs to the 144,000 that were declared saved after them comes the great crowd biblical reference is Revelations 20:4-6

Thankgod89:
Are you suggesting that the great multitude only consists of those who remain faithful after Satan’s final test? If so, how do you interpret Revelation 7:14, which describes them as coming out of the great tribulation?

It's self explanatory they survived Satan's final test!

delkuf:
this one don come again. After e go say person dey follow am. Look at the rubbish he typed.

So why quote me?

Thankgod89:
I sense that you may be a Jehovah’s Witness based on your discussion, but I want to clarify that salvation is not limited to just 144,000 people. Revelation 7:9 speaks of "a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, tribe, people, and language," indicating a much larger group of saved individuals.

You are right but the additional great crowd are those that survived Satan's last test only 144,000 will not experience Satan's final test that's what i'm saying!

bingbagbo:
Man will account for his deeds one day
All our deeds are being recorded.

The Bible God doesn't record evil deeds!

When people choose to be evil He warns them to repent (change) because such a lifestyle will give Him no other option than to destroy the evildoer {John 3:16} but as soon as the evildoer dies all his deeds of evil goes into the grave with him that's his own portion he has judged himself to be unworthy for life. That's why God's word says:
For the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin. Romans 6:7

At death the sinner gets the full payment of his sins:

For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:23

Note that Paul said there is a gift God has for good people, this means God keeps account of whatever good we do no matter how little it is.

So if you have good deeds God will keep your name in His memory book for the time when He will bring back His friends to live again! Job 14:13-15

But what happens to evildoers?
Nothing tangible to remember them for:

The wicked will retreat toward the Grave, All the nations who forget God. Psalms 9:17

So the true God is a happy person {1Timothy 1:11} the thought of evil deeds doesn't bring Him joy that's why He is urging us all to repent and start doing what will make Him remember us for good!

Rid yourselves of all the transgressions you have committed and acquire a new heart and a new spirit, for why should you die, O house of Israel? Ezekiel 18:31

Come and see the wondrous works of the Almighty God who made everything beautiful, life taste so good and sweet!

Funny atheist!
The Spirit of God killed offenders and you called it "APOSTOLIC MURDER"

So what will you call thunder that strikes a person to death?

In fact ATHEISM is making some people loose their senses this days, what law calls such thing murder?