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Jeremiah0nos:
Go ahead and continue discussing with them. Continue to lower yourself to their standard. You are able to tolerate their behavior and conduct because you are like them so continue. We are here watching as they drag you up and down. Continue.

See me see trouble o!

So when i'm talking about my own faith it's affecting you àbí?

Ọmọ each person will carry his or her own load {Galatians 6:5} so if you think you can't respond to people lying against your faith that's you not me. I respond anytime i choose to and stop anytime i choose to you're not me please get that straight!🙂

Ọmọ they are feeling the torment each time a JW responds to their criticism.

They feel no JW should talk because it means you are disappointed in those taking the lead among you but when you explain things they are crying inwardly so if you are misguided by their fake pretense that shows your level of understanding.

And as for what you said regarding insult here is someone answering you:

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

NowYouKnow:
we have a very good reason for doing that. you dont see jehovahs witnesses arguining and insulting people in public do you? we also cant do that in a private online forum. the only problem i have with the sentence above is the phrase ''as their man'' he is not our man. as for the koboko part please ride on. i am fully in support of that. pikin wey no dey hear word na cane e go chop.

NowYouKnow:
hahaha please there is a point in discussing with them, they r ur friends. dont give up so easily on them. you are doing a gud job here as the person below has said. they r waiting for u to come back and discuss with them. dont disappoint them okay.

YES!
Many have acknowledged that on this same forum.

DoctorAyukebot:
You know your scriptures

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

IykeSent:
This is a deep and insightful explanation of Hebrews 1:5, showing how Jesus is uniquely God's Son not just another angel. I especially liked the connection to the temple and the idea of spiritual sonship through being “born again.God bless you for this

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same Christian doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

Kingsempires:
wow I love this your statement 🙂🙏

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

shinaola21:
Perfectly said bro 💯

JimRohn:
Do you really consider DeepSight to be on the same intellectual level as MaxInDHouse or some of the other individuals I engage with here?

Because frankly, MaxInDHouse is among the most intelligent contributors on Nairaland. In contrast, DeepSight does not even qualify for consideration when I rate people based on intellect.

That is precisely why I refuse to bring myself down to his level — instead, I choose to engage with those whose reasoning and arguments are worth my time.

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

RavinWolf:
I never saw a better response. Thank you. 100% correct!

So if you want to discuss with people no one is holding your hands and for your information i don't insult anyone i explained my own personal conviction for whoever demands to know why i believe in the works of the Governing Body!🙂

Because those Fulanis came to enslave your ancestors that's why you don't know how faith works. Our people only believe in a deity who makes promises and see to it that it comes to pass not just some invaders coming to fight and kill people then enforcing their religion on them.

Imagine if those Fulanis never came to your ancestors will you be arguing over their book?

That's why i challenged your intelligence to think and provide something that worth it not just reading the book that was forced on your ancestors.

Prove without using that book that the religion they brought to your ancestors is from the true God.

That's all i'm asking!🤔

honesttalk21:
What does Allah say or you misquote as Allah saying.
Which promise can you lay claim to with your organization in claim of its true following of the true failing to uphold.

cuteeme:
That's why you are frantic around my comment, who's the restless one here? Just barking at everyone who passes.

Cry me a river!😂

Abraham came from a family of idol worshipers but the man has a honest heart so the only true God called him and extended a hand of friendship with Abraham.

Today many wants to claim they worship the same God but do they have the same faith like Abraham?

Do you have the same kind of faith like Abraham?🙂

JEHOVAH promised to do a lot in our time so that His worshipers may be confident that they are getting things right.

The gods of the nations had no mouth so they can't speak therefore all their worshipers have become like them! Psalms 115:4-8

Ask any religion to present what their God promised and you will see them running away from the Bible but when it's time for their leaders to extort money from them they will start quoting the same Bible!😂

Are you storing your treasures in heaven where no thief can rob? Matthew 6:19-21

Once again NO EVIDENCE.

Abeg there is no point discussing with you guys jàre!😂

achorladey:
Just hope into those your numerous thread about 1914 you will see it there.

You want to start your usual merry go round...

Lie

Deny

Run away

Come back

Admit you lie

Then look for every means to still be counted as relevant despite lying.

FAITHLESS CRITIC!😂

MrEar:
I shaaa know the name of your own church. JW! JW recently made changes . They are trying to emulate our faith.

achorladey:
I ridicule faith yet, I get likes and get quoted for same comments about faith

Please present one thread you started about faith in Christ or God.

If that's not available please present a post where you commended any church or pastor for their fine works of faith.🤔

LIES that has helped gathered millions of faithful and obedient individuals throughout the world making them one big family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} who keeps preaching and teaching in all their neighborhood shey? Matthew 28:18-20

MrEar:
Jesus hated lies. JW Leaders are now working on their lies so that they can become like us, The real faithful christians.

What is the name of your church so let everyone know that they can see the WORKS of your FAITH! James 2:18-26

MrEar:
Yes, the recent changes is making you join us the real servants of Christ.

Whatever you say about JWs today is exactly what Jesus and his disciples did in the first century so you have no point nah!😂

MrEar:
You want to run again! Are you tired? Leave my guy alone and face me naa.

Soldiers of Christ!🙂

MrEar:
What I am saying is in the past JW pple could not keep beards, something God gave them, But now JW Leaders have given them the permission.

achorladey:
You want him to bite his tongue.

Please since you don tey for JWs before you left help him share one publication of JWs where a specific date regarding the end of the world was mentioned jàre!😂

Later you will start amusing me saying you win.

So you don't even have anything tangible to share!

You follow follow talk say JWs made false prophecy you can't provide evidence.

You follow follow talk say JWs changes their orders you can't prove that Jesus and his disciples never did the same.

So what exactly are you saying?😂

MrEar:
JW leaders recently studied the bible very well and made changes to make their organisation look like mine.

MrEar:
Have you agreed that JW Leaders lied when they told members tranfusing their own blood contradict Gods laws?

honesttalk21:
That’s not what the text you quote says. Read it properly and don't misquote..

This is what i told you from the start:

Don't read your own meaning into the book that's not for your religion!🙂

honesttalk21:
Isaiah 2:3–4 says God teaches, judges, and settles disputes. The nations don’t fix anything; God does, then peace follows.
Micah 4:2–3 has same structure. God is the actor. The peace is His work, not theirs.
Zechariah 4:6 reads not by might nor by power. Human effort is ruled out completely. Zephaniah 3:9 says God gives pure speech. He doesn’t wait for people to get it right.
Your “if they get it right” condition isn’t in the text. You replaced God’s action with human performance. So enough of your refined reference to scripture and distraction of what is discussed here. Enough please.

So whatever your Allah says in its book has no meaning since it doesn't give any promises?

Abeg what is the evidence that you guys are worshiping the only true God?🙂

MrEar:
So your leaders did not use to allow you keep beards? Ah, Thats sad naa.

Have you agreed that JWs never made any prophecy regarding the end of the world?🙂

Do you believe that Christ's first century disciples were operating like soldiers?
Do commands from the central unit of control changes or remain static?

Ọmọ study your Bible not what faithless critics are saying!🙂

MrEar:
Okay, so JW is patterned after the military. Anything the commander tells his men his men must obey untill the commander gives his men permission, like permission to keep beards and store blood.

MrEar:
And I already told you that is why your organisation is changing to become like mine. Because mine is the truth!

So there was never a time when JWs prophesied about the end of the world!🙂

MrEar:
Exactly! I cant fight what is true most especially when it stands the test of time. But when something changes from time to time with no accountability, that can never be truth, and that I must fight because like jesus, I HATE LIES!

True soldiers don't bother about changes in command from the central unit of control!🙂

MrEar:
I have already told you what to do. Stop moving in circles like JW Leaders.

And i told you "IT IS A LIE" God's people never mentioned a specific date about the end of the world!
Please prove me wrong by quoting just one publication where a specific date was mentioned!🙂

You can continue fighting the truth at least everyone can see that there is no time God's organization mentioned a specific date regarding the end time!🙂

MrEar:
False! Jesus hates lies. The father of lies is working with JW Organisation.

MrEar:
Well, JW Organisation is making changes recently that is similar to ours. So you are following us.

SarcasticWords:
Look at this one. How many times will you ask this same question? So all the screenshot from your old magazines that people have sent to you in this forum is not enough for you?
MrEar don't mind him!
How far MrEar, Saw your post on front page this morning. Excellent work jare!

Please quote one where a specific date is mentioned!

Perhaps i need to enlighten you guys about false prophecies and wrong expectations but since you are not sincere with yourself i will keep that for interested people meanwhile the same thing happened several times to God's people in Bible times having wrong expectations in fact one happened to the apostles themselves regarding the end of this system of things.
The only thing they never mentioned is a specific date!🙂

I am a soldier o we don't follow crowds rather we focus on what really happened! 1Thessalonians 5:21

So if you don't have evidence please don't mention that again because it's a lie!🙂

MrEar:
Something that has been done numerous times in this forum. Yet you still deliberately chose not to believe. Type false JW prophecies on the search bar here on nairaland and you will see the numerous threads with screenshots of your magazines where your leaders made numerous false prophecies.

MrEar:
Why will you submit to an organisation whose beliefs and doctrine change from time to time. Why submit to lies? When you make yourself submissive to beliefs and doctrines that are wrong you are telling everyone that you reject truth.

Soldiers don't get tired or irritated due to changes in command as long as our mission is accomplished so when i met the true CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS i wasn't interested in how many times orders from the central unit of control changes my own as a soldier is whether our mission is still on focus.

Now our mission as soldiers of Christ is to gather faithful people throughout the earth {Matthew 28:18-20} and make them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} that is enough evidence that the Prince of Peace is working with us! Act 1:8🙂

Floww23:
Y'all think like two year olds
That means Charles Russell previous Church is the peak of Christianity too, man couldn't find a Replica , he started to study bible at home.

NO the man joined several churches to know if what they are teaching makes sense that's why he worked with the SDA until the church leader said Jesus' sacrificial death can't save mankind.

However Charles Taze Russell also missed a lot of things in his life time but he would have become a better JW if he is alive now because everything he expected of the only true religion has been restored!🙂

achorladey:
Interfaith refers to communication, cooperation, or relationships between people of different religious traditions.

Can a JW worship in any other place?
NO!
Because it's only in our midst that our God could be worshiped acceptably.

Can a JW marry from any other religion?
NO!
Because it's only our members that are adhering to the rules set by our God so to have a peaceful home we choose within our organization.

Can a JW listen to any religious leaders apart from our Governing Body?
NO!
Because we know that our God is using only one channel to teach us.

Can a JW support tribal or racial conflict?
NO!
Because our brothers or prospective brothers are in all lands so fighting and killing people means we aren't giving them the opportunity to learn the truth.

Can a JW accept blood transfusion from external sources?
NO!
Because we believe it's unsafe since the blood in each person's body is specifically meant for that person.

I can continue if time permits me to tell you and your friends the real meaning of INTERFAITH!

honesttalk21:
The evidence is in what actually happened, not what you hope will happen.

So has your Allah been able to unite its worshipers and secure an international brotherhood of peace?

Note that the first thing any ruler must promise is peace and security among his subjects so if there will be anyone causing chaos it shouldn't be among his subjects who are obediently living by the rules. Africans had many deities who have secured peace among their worshipers the failure of African God's is inability to propagate and i believe it's because they are not the Almighty.

If your Allah is the Almighty it shouldn't fail to make peace reign among those worshiping it nah!😟

For example Saudi Arabia claims they own your Allah and Iran also claim they own your Allah both countries are forcing the words of your Allah on people instead of allowing adherents to choose which God they will serve.

Shunning unrepentant wrongdoers is not forceful because if your Allah used shunning and not attacking those who choose other religions it won't get a single worshiper in many lands. Do you think anyone cares about being shunned when the religion has nothing to offer?😟

The Bible God made a promise that will serve as evidence of pure worship in our time.

What extraordinary thing did your Allah say people will see as evidence of pure worship among Muslims?

Note that all religions have their beliefs so whatever is written in your Quran is just what your religion says but there should be something extraordinary to prove that your Allah is the true God and that Muslims are practicing the true religion!🙂

honesttalk21:
That U-turn you’re talking about, nothing like that happened. I only adjusted the wording, not the point. The distinction has always been there, and it’s already in Qur’an 3:7. If you think anything actually changed, point it out. If not, then this is just side talk. And even if I did change position, it still doesn’t solve your problem you still haven’t shown the verse is making a scientific claim, or that the hadith forces a literal reading, or why your own standard shouldn’t apply to your texts.

On this appearance language you already use it without stress. Your Bible talks about the sun rising, standing still, running its course. You don’t take that as science. Nobody asks for explanation. But now, suddenly, everything here must be literal? That’s not principle that’s selective reasoning.

Yes, genres differ, but that doesn’t save your point. This is still a travel account someone describing what he saw. And the simple fact is no human being can reach a place where the sun literally sets. That’s not interpretation, that’s basic reality. So if your reading leads to that, then the issue isn’t the text it’s how you’re reading it. The only sensible understanding is that it appeared that way at the horizon. That’s exactly how early scholars understood it no stressing, no forcing.

And before you twist it to so the Qur’an is wrong scientifically; no that’s how ancient people described what they saw. Travelers always spoke like that. Even your own texts do it. If you want to call that error, then be ready to apply it everywhere including your side.

On the hadith, you’re mixing categories. What’s described there is unseen reality, not physical location. That’s a different discussion entirely. And again, early scholars had all this and still didn’t arrive at your conclusion. If it was that obvious, they would have said it.

On clarity! you’ve turned it into something impossible. Clear doesn’t mean nobody can ever misunderstand anything. It means the guidance is clear. And on that, the Qur’an is consistent. But if you want to use your standard, check your own side; centuries of councils and still major disagreements on core beliefs. By your measure, that’s not clarity.

And about sources, every religion has layers. Islam is just honest about it: Qur’an, Sunnah, scholarship. It’s open, not hidden.
At the end, your whole argument rests on three things; forcing literal meaning where it doesn’t fit, mixing unseen matters with physical ones, and using a standard you don’t apply to yourself. Remove those, and there’s nothing left.
Pointing at wording won’t fix that. If a standard isn’t applied consistently, it’s not an argument it’s just bias.