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Image123:
SMH, this one don carry jwickedness logic enter thread. Every human being is created with a conscience. They might deaden it. But there are indeed people who engage their conscience in daily life, decisions and choices.

Politics deadens conscience that's why Jesus turned his back on politics! John 6:15

noskcid:
They preach what Jesus preached and what Paul and the rest of the apostles preached.

What did Jesus, Paul and the Apostles preached?

Of course there is nothing of conscience in politics that's why Jesus told all his disciples to focus on God's Kingdom.

AntiChristian:
So of what use was the wisdom God gave Solomon in blue above?

Of course Solomon has the wisdom surpassing all of his contemporaries but he became overconfident thinking he is now wise enough to overstep his boundaries:

You must not form any marriage alliances with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons. For they will turn your sons away from following me to serve other gods; then Jehovah’s anger will blaze against you, and he will swiftly annihilate you. Deuteronomy 7:3-4

Solomon concluded in his heart that if he is wiser than the fathers and all the wise men in the world there is no way their daughters can make him worship any other God and he was wrong.

Kingsolar:
Demons

So demons also speak languages that is why we need to be extra careful!

Dtruthspeaker:
You know this is the full meaning of bigotry.
bigotry
/ˈbɪɡətri/ - an obstinate, unreasonable, and irrational attachment to one's own beliefs or opinions in defiance of proven facts or Truth.
There is nothing to interpret in the clear words of Revelation 20.

What is the name of your church that's believing this thing you are saying?

Let's examine their fruit just as Jesus said we should do {Matthew 7:16-18} let Jesus be the judge if you agree with him!

noskcid:
You are still in the wrong sir
You can only get a false church from the original church, if you see all churches as false then something is wrong somewhere with you sir.
That fake church came from the impersonation of the original. So not all churches are fake and Jesus Christ still has His church here on earth

Exactly what i believe so please can you mention the name of Jesus' church today?
If you believe there are false that comes to impersonate the original how can people IDENTIFY the original?🙂

noskcid:
You are getting it wrong sir, our church has been to some areas in this Lagos and told us to stop preaching and leave then we left and that’s biblical.

Some areas in Lagos in the streets or from house to house? Matthew 10:11-13
Please stop talking about what church does instead quote what the Jesus said!

stuffs2002:
You people created your own religion.

You are speaking based on limitations of imperfect humans.
You don't know why Jesus came!🙂

stuffs2002:
Jesus Christ never practiced what Christians are practicing now
You Christians created your own religion.

You are speaking based on your limited knowledge.

After the establishment of Christianity in the first century Satan began attacking the group physically but this didn't work because the pioneers (Apostles) were still alive and active but after they have all been killed (when men were sleeping) Satan took another face by creating a false religion in the name of Christ Jesus {Matthew 13:25} that is what most of you know today not the true Christianity.
Jesus has returned and restored his group back to how it was in the first century but if you're not careful you can't identify us.
We don't preach in buses, radio, streets or public squares. We continue using the format which is house to house and door to door {Matthew 10:11-13} by so doing we only engage interested individuals not disturbing people who showed no interest in our message. Matthew 12:19

So my friend what the government is planning today didn't escape the notice of our wonderful counselor who taught us to take permission before preaching! Isaiah 9:6

noskcid:
So who is stoping them from doing it?
If you are proud of what you belief then preach it openly.

Christ Jesus is the world's wisest counselor {Isaiah 9:6} he has foresaw this long before now that is why he never preached in streets {Matthew 12:19} he sent his disciples to go and speak with people in the comfort of their homes by so doing disciples will first greet you as well meaning neighbors and present their message if you want to discuss with them the conversation continues but if not they must take their leave! Matthew 10:11-15

This idea of disturbing people without taking permission is unchristian!😟

NO!
It's part of what must happen before the great tribulation begins!

stuffs2002:
How can Jesus Christ be a founder when he knew nothing about Christianity. No one during the lifetime of Jesus Christ was a Christian
Christianity started many years after Jesus Christ has risen to the heavens

YES!
It's based on what Jesus taught them to do in order to please God better than Judaists. God promised this new religion long before Jesus was born {Isaiah 35:8; Jeremiah 31:31-33} and all Israelites were were anticipating its arrival. John 4:25
So Christianity was established due to the promises of God. Joel 2:28-30 compare to Act 2:16-18

Dtruthspeaker:
It's ok but with humility and respect, i do say that, the clear wordings of Revelation 20 do not support it.

We know there is no problem with it but if you and your fellow worshipers have any other interpretation please go ahead with yours.
We are OK!

The ban on religion globally will surely come so its time to know the true religion otherwise when it happens you will be in darkness as to the next thing that's coming!😟

Dtruthspeaker:
None of this is Judgment Day as even you can see that no one is Judged. And your Isaiah still shows that people must die even if they live tto 960years
This just shows the period quiet that follows a great storm, which is the Day of Judgement which you see comes only after the 1000years

Well it's OK that is what we believe but you are free to believe whatever you and your fellow worshipers prefer!

Dtruthspeaker:
This is not True for Revelation 20 only shows that God's Court of Just is, was now set up at that time. But it was no one was Judged during the thousand years.
Judgement Day only came and started after the thousand years.

Of course thousands even millions will be judged during the thousand years!

Note that Jesus will rule for a thousand years so whoever refuses to live by Jesus' standard won't be allowed to hurt Jesus' subjects who has been promised a blissful millennium of peace and security such a person will die before the reign ends:

No more will there be an infant from that place who lives but a few days, Nor an old man who fails to live out his days. For anyone who dies at a hundred will be considered a mere boy, And the sinner will be cursed, even though he is a hundred years of age. Isaiah 65:20

So whoever refuses to obey Jesus will only be allowed to live just for 100 years and die as a youth because there is no oldage anymore in the Kingdom of Christ!

Dtruthspeaker:
No problem for that is why that Day is called Judgement Day

Yes the thousand years is what God's word called the judgment day! 2Peter 3:8

God chose Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to become forefathers of only one person Christ Jesus {Galatians 3:16} so the covenant God had with Israel wasn't established on mere emotions in fact God said its when they (Israelites) stood firm for His laws that He will establish an everlasting relationship with them {Exodus 19:5} but again and again they destroyed that covenant by hurting His feelings! Psalms 78:41

So the love wasn't mutual that is why Jesus (God's only begotten Son) told his listeners that God has rejected the nation of Israel and chosen a new nation. Matthew 21:43

However God promised faithful, loyal and obedient ones among the Israelites that He will make a Way of holiness for them {Isaiah 35:8} so that whoever is able to walk in it will have all the blessings He promised Abraham's descendants. Jesus declared that he is that Way {John 14:6} therefore anyone who is able to walk in that way no matter where he comes from will surely establish an everlasting father and child relationship with the true God! John 1:11-12

stuffs2002:

Jesus Christ was not a Christian

YES nah he is the founder of Christianity!

Dtruthspeaker:
Whether righteous or unrighteous will be raised up for Judgement to get the reward of either eternal life in the new heaven and earth.

Both RIGHTEOUS and UNRIGHTEOUS are not yet qualified for everlasting life in Paradise yet because immediately after the thousand years reign of Christ Satan will be released then both will be tested for a short period {Revelation 20:1-3} it's then those to survive will suffice because they will not be judged based on what happened in their past life but on whatever they do during the final test from Satan {Revelation 20:11-13} then death and grave will be wiped off completely {Revelation 20:14} before God destroy both Satan and all those that allowed themselves to be deceived by Satan. Revelation 20:15 compare to Proverbs 10:7

Anyone who fails during Satan's final test have no right to judge Adam and Eve. They had perfect health, everything they needed, prospect of living forever, have all the animals under their control and our planet home to explore throughout eternity yet they followed Satan. So the same goes for anyone who has lived for 1,000 years without sickness, sorrow or pain yet still follow Satan at the slightest opportunity that is why they will be dead forever just like Adam and Eve! Revelation 20:15

The truth is preachers in buses are not Christians!😟
Jesus never taught his disciples to go and disturb whoever is not interested because he himself doesn't shout at passersby in the streets! Matthew 12:19

Dtruthspeaker:
Revelations clearly said that everyone who had died, will be raised up to receive their Judgement of either eternal life or eternal punishment. And it mentioned Abel and the prophets too will get their just is that day. So nothing like Adamic sin only Judgment and you know it, friend.🙏🏾

According to Psalms 9:17 willful sinners will never be raised back to life what the Bible book of Revelation said is that everyone who has been faithful and faithless people too will be raised back to life that is what Paul meant when he said the RIGHTEOUS and UNRIGHTEOUS will be raised. Act 24:15

The RIGHTEOUS are servants of God who has been declared righteous because of their obedient past life before God.
Abel, Enoch, Noah Hebrews 11:4-7
Abraham James 2:23
Rahab James 2:25

The UNRIGHTEOUS are people who don't know the true God but lived by their God's given conscience! Romans 2:14-15

But WICKED people will never ever come back to life. Psalms 9:17

Dtruthspeaker:
Romans is not the end of the Bible of which Romans still stated it in saying that the unrepentant are storing themselves up for "wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God.
But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil
Then Revelations showed us that the Judgement of God and death according to God and not according to how you want it, is eternal Life in prisonment in the lake of fire! aka Wrath as Romans 2, still warned you. So, you see how you yourself ate showing that you jws are also the deceivers the Bible warned people would come and deceive them? Cc Paxonel

Death that comes due to Adamic sin is a temporary punishment for imperfect humans {Job 14:13-15} but death that will come due to willful sin is eternal punishment {2Thessalonians 1:9} that is why they will never be remembered (resurrected) unlike those whose sin is due to Adamic sin.
Read Psalms 9:17
Thanks!🙂

johnstin:
sinners that are 'arrested' after their death are tried by the court of Heaven,

Death is the end of practicers of sin. Romans 6:7
Sinners are people who committed the evil they were never convinced about since they don't have the knowledge of God and His righteousness. So their own judgement will be during Christ's millennium reign when there will be no more excuses regarding the knowledge of God but for now a sinner who doesn't understand God's standard will be considered based on what his or her conscience permitted! Romans 2:14-15
There is no place called HELLFIRE!

God's Kingdom begins its rule in heaven and Jesus has come organizing his disciples on planet earth!

Where the churches of Christendom got it all wrong is omitting the important assignment Jesus gave his followers:

When you enter the house, greet the household. If the house is deserving, let the peace you wish it come upon it; but if it is not deserving, let the peace from you return upon you. Matthew 10:12-13

As disciples of Christ you must preach from house to house and door to door {Act 5:42} and the theme is God's Kingdom. Matthew 3:2; 10:7

The work of faith {James 2:18} makes it really hard for anyone to continue with questionable characters because you'll be preaching and teaching in the place where people know you. Of course you can't walk up into a the house of someone you have duped and expect him or any other person who knows about it not to question you over such evil. But when all the churches of Christendom demands from members is just to come and warm benches, contribute money and dance surely each person won't see the reason why they should to make needed changes.

So when you read the Bible and see that first century disciples of Christ are called "God's children" know that it came with responsibility not just a title!

If anyone is arrested for his beliefs that is against his fundamental human right no matter where it happened the only reason for anyone to be arrested is physical assault or steering up anger in others to instigate violence but apart from that an individual has the right to hold on to whatever he chooses to believe.

That is what is called freedom of speech, expression and worship!

There are two sets of disciples in Christ the anointed {Luke 12:32} and the other sheep. John 10:16
The anointed are limited in number while the other sheep fold are countless Jesus told us in the Bible book of Revelation that the anointed will never experience Satan's test again after they have finished their earthly journey because by the time they are resurrected they will be taken to heaven as spirit beings not humans. 1Thessalonians 4:16-17 compare to John 14:1-3; Revelation 20:5-6

But the other sheep and millions of people who are resurrected to Paradise still have to face Satan again when he is released for the final test. Revelation 20:7-10

That is why the anointed Christians are referred to as SAVED it doesn't literally means they are not prone to errors or they won't be attacked by Satan but its due to their future prospect as they are no longer coming back as humans to live again in the flesh. Luke 20:34-36

Now it's clear that you are just lying without shame.

Now quote a single religionist on this forum who mentioned a religion that's better than Jehovah's Witnesses.

It's time to abandon you!🙂

kayjordan:
Critics have been presenting better groups than JW.

kayjordan:
I understand.
Even non-participants can praise a religious group and begin in-fighting amongst themselves just as it's done in politics. And you're supporting it. But you're condemning those who do similar in politics. If you re-visit the page of the testimonials, you will discover that you omitted the other forum members that traded insults over the same matter (JW).

How can you participate in what a group does by doing the exact opposite of what they are doing?
Jehovah's Witnesses frown at fighting to resolve issues nah!😂

Then you talked about those speaking abusively of the organization but you failed to note that while those praising the group said there is no other group performing well like this group critics only stands to criticize without presenting a better performing group!😂

kayjordan:
Using words of sinners to elevate your church doesn't show integrity.

Jesus prayed to God that we shouldn't be taken out but watched over us in the world! John 17:15-17

Knowing and praising a religious group for their performance globally but chose not to be part of it.

Ọmọ what are you?🙂

It's like praising a political candidate of one party and the way they are well organized but refuses to participate in the movement.

Ọmọ think about it nah!🙂