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ogascomax:
I don't support what the pastor did. I am only questioning the believe because of how he passed his message. A Christian must know how to defend what he believes which is Christianity and deal with an individual behaviour separately. How can someone said that Christians are worse than Boko Haram. That is a nonsense talk. Can he lives in a place or region Boko Haram are.

Of course that statement calls for deep reasoning!

Note that Boko haram are terrorists that are always on the run when the law is about to catch up with them but this man did this and expected the law to protect him.
Imagine if the traditionalists too should go and destroy his church and property what do you think he will do?

It's simple Boko Haram are not staying in any known location so that they could be questioned for what they are doing but he is that is why the law is dealing with him! 🙂

forexprophet:
If it were Muslims that destroyed it.... NOTHING WILL HAPPEN! Everyone will be shouting BANDIT, BANDIT, BANDIT.
A nation that one religion can do anything and get away with it. The south is always afraid of the north

Let any IDENTIFIED MUSLIM try it nah?🙂

Benadoaroma:
Is this same law applicable in the Northern parts of Nigeria?

Is there any Muslim IDENTIFIED as the destroyer of a religious building?

In the north such activities are carried out by UNIDENTIFIED individuals had it been it's an angry mob that did this the arrest or charges will be impossible but since the man did it to promote his own business he made himself known as a violator of other people's rights!😟

ogascomax:
Before I proceed further I need to know whether you are truly a Christian. We believe that there is only one God. Don't you? Do you believe that the God we worship is the only true God.

It is a crime to desecrate a place of worship in a country where there is freedom of worship.
Today the Jews in Jerusalem wants to desecrate churches but the only thing protecting the churches is the law so if you support what the so called prophet did then the Jews have the right to destroy all buildings called church!😟

voortrekker966:
Unless he has evidence of criminal activities at the shrine he has no right to destroy anything there. Some Christians are worse than Boko Haram.

As long as he is not the court of law nor law enforcement agent he has no right to touch anyone even though the shrine is for criminals only the judiciary has the right to do that!😟

kayjordan:
The " Jesus Christ" that set up JW Organization in America was the very founder, Mr.Charles Taze Russell himself in physical flesh and blood - not Jesus the Spirit - and not a spirit possessing a man either.

This is what most people think too but it's not so!🙂

In the Bible Jesus promised that when Satan has caused chaos on planet earth turning everything upside down he (Jesus) will return and reestablish his group in the time of the end because a small group will be seriously making research to know the truth. Matthew 24:45-47

Of course most people said Charles is the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses but Jesus proved them wrong!

How?

All the days Charles led the international Bible Students Association himself and all members of the group do celebrate birthdays and Christmas this Jesus later corrected in the year 1926 proving that the group wasn't Charles's founding.

Untill Charles died in the year 1916 the group remains International Bible Students Association this Jesus later corrected in the year 1931 that the name God intended to call all his worshipers is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Untill the year Charles died he was to be referred to as "PASTOR" this Jesus later corrected that we shouldn't bear religious titles in his group. Matthew 23:8-10

So my friend it's a lie Charles is not the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization but Jesus himself that's why no religion on this planet is meeting up with all the promises God foretold about His worshipers in the last days!🙂

Truvelisback:
Where in the Scripture did God transform Michael to Jesus?

Even if i tell you the teachings of those people you call "PASTORS" won't allow it to sink {Matthew 13:4} but you can compare these verses for verification.

Where was Jesus living before God transform his life into the womb of Mary?
Heaven! John 6:62; 8:23

Is that the same case with humans?
Jesus said NO! John 3:31

Who is the highest ranking son of God?
Jesus. John 3:16
Michael. Jude 9

Who is the commander in chief of all angels?
Jesus. Matthew 16:27; 25:31
Michael. Revelations 12:7

Whose voice will raise the dead?
Jesus. John 6:30; 11:25;
Michael. 1Thessalonians 4:16

Who is standing for the salvation of God's people?
Jesus. Matthew 20:28
Michael. Daniel 12:1

Do Michael and Jesus have similar scriptures pointing to the fact that they are angels?
YES!
Michael is known as the archangel {Jude 9} Jesus called himself the bright morning star {Revelation 22:16} while all other angels are called morning stars. Job 38:7

Truvelisback:
So, Michael came to earth in human form.

Yes of course God transformed Michael into an embryo in the womb of a Jewish virgin called "Mary" but it's hard for you to grasp now so continue with whatever remains that you still believe in the teachings of your pastors!🙂

Truvelisback:
How is Jesus the same as Michael? Why are you confusing yourself?

Millions of active members of the true Christian organization called Jehovah's Witnesses are confusing ourselves shey?
Well until all the teachings of those fake pastors are dismantled you won't agree with us that Jesus is the same one called Archangel Michael.
Meanwhile continue discovering the lies told by your pastors in the past!🙂

When true Christians that Jesus sent to teach people God's word knock on your doors many will say:
"I'm a child of God"
"I'm born again"
"I'm a Christian" and so on.

Well you can now start contradicting your pastors who told you not to listen when true Christians come knocking on your doors.

Who are angels?
After creating one angel called Michael who lived with his father (God) for time unspecified in the Bible Jehovah decided to bring more creatures to life because Michael proved to be a faithful, loyal and obedient child all his life. John 5:19
So God empowered Michael to create other creatures {Colossians 1:15-16} this makes him so happy working side by side with his father as a craftsman {Proverbs 8:30} that is why Michael is called the Archangel {Jude 9} and all other angels fear him as they don't know his beginning but only found him being alive with their father! John 1:1

So angels are God's spirit sons and they live in heaven with him always singing praises to God for the gift of life {Job 38:7} but just a single one of them can destroy as much as thousands of human with just one blow {2Kings 19:35} from the beginning until now God instructed them not to interfere with whatever humans are doing on planet earth therefore they have no business with us not until one of them rebelled against that order and started communicating with humans without God's authority. Genesis 3:4-5

From that time God began using angels and giving those who needed to be warned the privilege to see them {Genesis 3:24} otherwise there is nothing we can do to see angels unless God permitted us but rebellious angels can put on any form to make themselves visible to whoever invokes them! 1Samuel 28:9-14

So angels only act on command from God but demons do respond to human calls as they want to disguise as angels of light! 2Corinthians 11:14

Thomasankara:
[/color]But John the Baptist laid down his life for this world government,does it mean he's doomed[color=#770077]

John the baptist crossed the line!
The assignment given to him is to prepare the way for Christ {Malachi 4:5-6} and he himself confirmed it {John 1:23} but he began interfering in the politics happening in Israel {Matthew 14:3-4} when he expected Jesus to act on his arrest Jesus told him point-blank that he only stayed on the assignment given to him {Matthew 11:2-5} Jesus warned John not to feel bad because he will only stick to what he is sent to do! Matthew 11:6
Jesus told his listeners that of all those born by women (from Abel till John the baptist) none of them is worth the relationship that Christians will have with God {Matthew 11:11} because from the time of John the baptist till today all servants of God must fight really hard to look away from whatever the rulers of this world are doing with their position and only those having strong faith in God can conquer that feeling! Matthew 11:12

kayjordan:
Jehovah's Witnesses is an American religion created in the 19th century or so.

This is what you supposed to have said all this while twisting the issue here and there.

First of all Jehovah's Witnesses is never an American religion that is what faithless people are saying so ask for wisdom that is from above.

But for the benefit of honest hearted and sincere individuals following this thread i will explain.

God established pure worship in the land of Israel but the Israelites keeps on going back to false religions which led to their condemnation {Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38} from the first century till the 19th century Satan decided not to allow true religion stand himself and his human agents (world rulers) continue to put a ban on Christianity in all places while promoting his own that the Bible called "Babylon the Great" Revelation 17:5-6
From Jerusalem to Rome to England and other lands world rulers keep on persecuting true Christianity while they are propagating false religion in the name of Christ until the 19th century when America declared freedom of speech expression and worship started fighting against any country that's enforcing one religion on people or banning any form of worship as long as the religion doesn't cause any harm in the human society America will defend the right of those practicing it. That was when true Christianity got her freedom spiritually and Jesus used America as the base to establish his congregation and continue the work that was stopped by the Jews in the first century.
So today everything Jesus said about his group has been fulfilled by Jehovah's Witnesses because that is the group he is using therefore don't deceive yourself thinking it's an American religion rather Jesus is the one who established his group in the country where freedom of speech expression and worship was declared.

And for that reason there will never ever be any country that's going to conquer America in fact God has said in His word that it's the system of government established by America which is DEMOCRACY that will be ruling the earth until God's government come:

“In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever" Daniel 2:44

The above prophecy means when those practicing democracy (government of the people who made up the majority) is dominating planet earth then God will bring His own system of government that will no longer be passed on the other individuals (as they are voted in and out today) or from one ethnic group to another as it's been done today. God's own government will then rule planet earth forever.

Ọmọ this is the truth if you care to know!🙂

kayjordan:
It's okay to think your faith is absolute - but bear in mind that, it's not printed nor established in any media or Bible.

Obviously you hate the truth!🙂

Ask anyone to come and use the Bible to defend their faith nah!

The Bible only established Jehovah's Witnesses the only clause is God didn't mention the name specifically otherwise all those false religions will start claiming they are Jehovah's Witnesses if it's written in the Bible but all activities and results points to Jehovah's Witnesses.

That's why you need to call them to come and deny with Scripture if they are true Christians!🙂

kayjordan:
Do you know your confidence in JW as the true religion, is a carbon-copy of the confidence of a Redeemer, Deeper life member, Catholic, Seventh day Adventist member, Muslim and Buddhist?

Never!
You don't need to speak in defense of fake currencies call its bearers out to come and defend their currencies just as i'm doing!🙂

Thomasankara:
[/color]so Paul,John the Baptist, mark, Peter and the rest that stood on their beliefs and we're killed for this,were also foolish, based on your analysis?[color=#770077]

They died preaching and teaching for the kingdom of God which is to be ruled by Jesus Christ not a human.

So Jesus promised to raise them in the last days because they served him as his disciples {John 11:25-26} but those laying down their lives for this world's government are doomed!

kayjordan:
Hmm!
Everyone knows Central Bank is the Apex bank and not Gtbank or Union Bank.

Here is what i meant by CENTRAL BANK. Everyone agreed i mean nobody has ever disagreed with what you typed below.

kayjordan:
There's no universal or unifying knowledge that unites God's people across all religions races into one formidable religion and denomination.
Except if one exist.

So that stands as the world's central bank therefore any religion that fails to meet up with this features is like FAKE money that's worthless when you take it out for trade.

WHY?

Because it will always lead to strife and trouble among those using it to trade among themselves whereas those using the real money from central bank (true religion) will always live as if they are one family.

Today there is no religion apart from (Jehovah's Witnesses) that could unite people of all races instead there faith will become useless and worthless in the face of politics and racism just as fake currencies will turn it's users against one another. While your own brother may like to cover you knowing that you are carrying a fake currency someone who doesn't know you will never cover you but if its original money everyone will accept it whether they are related to you or not.

That is what only Jehovah's Witnesses are doing globally today that no other group can because they are all using the fake money FALSE RELIGION!🙂

What if he or she is the founder of his or own business church?

kayjordan:
I know you are a Muslim converted Christian and I'm really curious to know if your family still practice Islam.. If they still do, it would be equally unfair to say they've made a wrong choice.

According to the true God nobody chooses true religion at birth so children born to Jehovah's Witnesses only become members after they have studied the Bible, take their stand for what they learned and go out to preach and teach others in their neighborhood before they are baptized as Jehovah's Witnesses.
So my families chose what they want to be just as makers of fake currencies choose how to trade in the society but that doesn't mean the central bank will approve all the money found in circulation!🙂

kayjordan:
"Matthew 7:16-18" - can be read with different wisdom and judged with different opinions.
A strong reason why you defend your faith so well is because you've been emotionally invested in it long term - and it will be difficult to accept any other belief beyond what you know best.

First of all i wasn't born a JW instead i've listened to different religions until i found this truth.

Secondly below is what you typed with your own hands the only difference i just replaced RELIGION with RACE.

kayjordan:
There's no universal or unifying knowledge that unites God's people across all religions races into one formidable religion and denomination.
Except if one exist.

Why?

Because false religion can't unite all the people on this planet but the only true religion will so no matter your tribe or nationality if truth is your goal the true religion will unite you with people like you whereas there is no religion or organization that can unite people of all races apart from Jehovah's Witnesses!

Unless of course if you don't really want to know the truth!🙂

johnstin:
Torture from wicked demons. There are ruthless and extremely sadistic demons in hellfire, who incessantly inflict pain on the damned souls locked up there, with their sharp and dreaded instruments.

Even if you find it hard to understand all other things you are saying please how do you make sense with this?

Demons are supposed to be punished for disobeying God and take note that these are heavenly creatures who saw God face to face unlike humans who never saw any God so humans had a reason for their unbelief towards what they can't see yet you think it makes sense that this same God will now put those demons in charge of punishment to torment humans?😟

Thomasankara:
[/color]I don't think you understand your bible[color=#770077]

That is exactly how people do feel when they listen to Jesus asking them to stay away from politics but it's OK i just want you to know the mistake that people like Thomas Sankara and those following them made in their lives.
May you have peace!🙂

kayjordan:
There's no universal or unifying knowledge that unites God's people across all religions races into one formidable religion and denomination.
Except if one exist.

That is exactly what Jehovah's Witnesses have done!
All others are false religions that is why they can't produce that fruit you are expecting! Matthew 7:16-18🙂

Thomasankara:
[/color]he was a great man,who was cut short in his prime😢😢😢😢[color=#770077]

That is what Jesus meant by two roads! Matthew 7:13-14
To all humans fighting for what is right makes perfect sense but from the days of John the baptist it has become what could be called a wrong or unjust course! Matthew 11:12
Most people are dying for that course till today thinking God approves their actions but from God's standpoint they wasted their lives. Proverbs 14:12
Many like Thomas died struggling for a a better tomorrow for their people but they don't know that the only way to do that is being on the narrow way that Jesus commissioned which is preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom!

Of course you will see many things that will make you feel uncomfortable and it may seem as if you should fight for what is right or join the struggle. Many have sacrificed their own life and we are still remembering them till today for their selfless sacrificial death but if it's just because of this system of things it's meaningless to the true God! 1Corinthans 13:3

So please stay away from whatever has to do with politics though you will surely feel pressured to participate but fight really hard to conquer that feeling then stand for what Jesus asked his disciples to sacrifice whatever they have for {Matthew 11:12} and you will be rewarded with the crown of life! Revelation 2:10

LordReed:
🤦🥱💤

😂

Thomasankara:
[/color]What's with it?[color=#770077]

African leader!

Thomasankara:
[/color]I don't think that man reads his bible or maybe he doesn't understand when he reads[color=#770077]

This your profile name!🙂

otipoju:
If you pay the drummer, the cleaners and ushers must get paid too.
I don't care wether they are professionals or not.

Everyone must be paid!

LordReed:
Bro I don't need you to believe anything. Believe anything you wish, atheist in disguise. LoLz.

So you lied you've always been a self worshiper until your kind on Nairaland gave you the impetus to voice out.

You are not an atheist but believer as in worshiper of your own self and that is what you are propagating now!🤣

If you quote just one post where you talked about your faith in God i will forever believe that you truly became an atheist in 2018!🙂

LordReed:
So that you'll come and say o no you were just deceived because you were not JW. Guy leave all those things you are pretend me and you never had discussions on Christian faith on your old deleted account. If you would go so far to make such pretense why will I waste my time to go dig through 1440 pages to have you dismiss it with your usual twisting of words? LoLz. Guy you don daagba for lie lie matter no be today.

Atheist in disguise I hail o!

kayjordan:
You wrote: "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES that is the only religion"
Well, that's your appointed truth and neutral ground - and I understand.
Philosophy actually says there's no ABSOLUTE TRUTH.
So JW might as well be as biased as 1,000 religions that exist.
Therefore, no faith is superior.

This is why i don't answer questions directly!🙂

You asked a straightforward question:

kayjordan:
So which denomination or faith or sermon is the TRUE SHEPHERD? ...

I gave you a straightforward answer:

"JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"

But instead of asking for proof you went back to quoting faithless people!🙂

LordReed:
Ahhh right just your usual nonsense preaching that has no bearing on reality. Atheist in disguise, kaabo o!

Oya prove the reality to everyone that you are not lying by just quoting one of the posts where you talked about your faith in God.
Ọmọ you've always been a worshiper of your own self but your kind on this forum gave you the impetus to voice out claiming you are atheist!🙂

LordReed:
I never had any faith but I am still a secret believer in god. LMAO! Guy you are discombobulated. Bwahahahahaha!
Atheist in disguise, kaabo o! LoLz!

The highlighted is 💯% correct!

You believe only your own self just as Adam and Eve have always wanted to be until Satan gave them the impetus to take action.

So you are your own god having a secret altar in your heart where you bow down each morning to yourself and that's what you are propagating now!🙂