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It's when someone PUBLICLY DECLARE he or she is now one of Jehovah's Witnesses that such one could be held responsible for his or her actions nah?🙂

Floww23:
You are just confused.
The baptism question says this :
If Baptism is what identify someone as a Jehovah's witnesses, Why count Unbaptised persons as one of Jehovah's witnesses?

Surely your crooked heart will not allow you to grasp the truth!

But for the benefit of sincere followers of this thread:

Whatever you think about this group remains invalid until you are able to present another group that's performing globally as peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:4} because that is the only evidence pointing to Jesus as the world's most wonderful counselor of all time {Isaiah 9:6} therefore they are serving as WITNESSES {Act 1:8} to the fact that they've been counseled by this wonderful counselor to make love lead them into settling their disparities peacefully among themselves! John 13:34-35

A Jew will say what you are saying now no matter what you show him or her in the new testament hinging on things their people told them.

But there is only one way to silence any Jew who refuses to believe that Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ:

Ask him if the Christ will come when all their people has been scattered all over the world or assembled to welcome him.
Ask him when the prophet to prepare the way of the Christ will appear.
Ask him if there has been any prophet that met the criteria mentioned in their scriptures.

Of course he or she will not know what to say other than tell you they are still waiting for their Christ.

So before you speak against any group think of those doing the work Jesus assigned to his disciples and gathering peace lovers everywhere they go.🙂

FxMasterz:
Can you tell me what's better in a group that lies to its congregation, have criminal cases everywhere, change revelations from time to time, give false prophecies of Christ's coming, teach false doctrines, and have no respect for Jesus the Great Shepherd of the sheep?
When Jesus said "Wherever two or more are gathered in my name, there in their midst, I am", does that sound like an Angel Michael to you? Does that sound like a man to you? Who is omnipresent enough to be anywhere He is mentioned if not God? Yet, your organization lies against Jesus calling Him an angel, and you have been here all day trying to defame Him. What's better about you?

@Floww23
Our brothers welcomed new converts as fellow believers because these ones received the spirit of our God {Act 10:44} which means they started doing the work we also do.
But can such new ones be appointed as elders or ministerial servants?
NO.
WHY?
Because they've not been DECLARED PUBLICLY before many Witnesses!🙂

You are saying two different things my guy.

You can't correct a performing group when you don't know any better one. For instance you can justifiably speak against a government when you have a better one to present but in the absence of such your complaints are invalid!

That differs from following whatever is posted on social media nah!😟

FxMasterz:
When it comes to the crimes of their organization, they know how to quote the scriptures to tell you to make sure of all things. But when you show them the truth of the Word of God that their organization has turned upside down, the hypocrites turn a blind eye.

Well the spirit of our God admonished:

Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine. 1Thessalonians 5:21

The difference between true Christians and those professing they believe in our God!

FxMasterz:
If I didn't see from verifiable sources, I won't believe it let alone spread it.

You chose your own words WISELY!🤣

SarcasticWords:
I am waiting.

SarcasticWords:
Keep waiting.

Because he offered himself or herself willingly which God's word taught us that it's the spirit of our God that moves them:

Your people will offer themselves willingly on the day of your military force. In splendid holiness, from the womb of the dawn, You have your company of young men just like dewdrops. Psalms 110:3

Then it's someone declared before all that can be given the office of oversight just as Jesus also chose his first twelve disciples and made them Apostles. 🙂

Floww23:
Why count a person that has not been declared publicly as a Jehovah's witnesses?

But you guys will later claim you are educated o!😟
So you expect a person who has not been DECLARED PUBLICLY to take the lead in God's organization?😀

Floww23:
So why can't Unbaptised become Elders or regular pioneers ? Since they are Jehovah's witnesses?

No nah, i'm just reminding you that it's not good spreading rumor that you can't verify! Exodus 23:1-2

FxMasterz:
Mtcheww. No be you dey follow rumors dey say Jesus was alleged of crimes?

Floww23:
The question is : Why is the actual number of Baptized witnesses hidden ?

In the Bible is it only baptized disciples that are recorded or those who have become believers?🙂
Note that those who are preaching and teaching actively are Jehovah's Witnesses baptism is public declaration o!😀

He is the funniest on this thread!😀

He started his own and ran away when commentators wanted to engage him but here he is ready to engage JWs as if that is what will give him tonight's dinner!🤣

Janosky:
Pls wear your goggles& observe the mistake in Floww23 comment.
He later corrected himself with the comment "Good".
No dey deceive yourself.

You guys lack spiritual insight.

So when God's Kingdom comes as JWs believe are we supposed to expect only baptized ones to survive the end of this system of things or all those whose names has been written in God's memory book? Malachi 3:16

Floww23:
At least tell me I'm lying that baptized witnesses are not up to the 9 million advertised? Ask the average JW , how many Witnesses are around the world, they will quickly boast this number. Do you agree that the Number is forged?

You started a thread only to run away when people began quoting you but on another thread you want to engage JWs by force by fire.

Abeg wetin make you people so obsessed with JWs?😀

SarcasticWords:
The pope? The leader of the Catholic church? Please send me a screenshot of were he called JW the only true christian group.
I am waiting.

Are they preaching and teaching the same message?🙂

Floww23:
Do you know that the 9 million in your yearly stat is a Fraud ? They are counting UNbaptized people in that number too?

So logically the number of actual Baptized witnesses might be around 5 or 6 million.

why is the organization making their followers believe baptized witnesses are 9 million if they don't care about the numbers ?

Why the forgery?

Why is the Actual number of Baptized witnesses never published ?

Courz:
The question should be, How many are baptizing versus How many are leaving? Ask MaxinDhouse that question. He won't answer you because of Shame.

Because of this, many of his disciples went off to the things behind and would no longer walk with him. John 6:66

Going by your reasoning Jesus and his disciples were ashamed when majority of his baptized disciples left and never returned shey?🙂

Floww23:
I ask a simple question: How many Baptized JW are around the world ?

I asked you a simple question:
Did Jesus say his real disciples will outnumber faithless people?🙂

Janosky:
Oga,nah JW's get your mouth ?
Use it as you like .

He feels happy engaging JWs in some form of argument this people are real sadists only chatting with JWs makes them lively! Luke 16:24

Thanks. Noted!🙂

MrEar:
Your educated american leaders have come out to say it is okay for you to participate in that experiment.Jesus told them to correct their doctrine since you members could not.

He is just trolling jàre there is nothing in his head!🤣

Janosky:
Oga, our members are in the university.
You cant withdraw them from school.
You know say we get better lawyers to win you in court.

So you are educated but never realize that blood transfusion is experimental!😀

MrEar:
I care about others most especially the educated ones.You are free to kpai like 🐓

Come force external blood on me nah!🤣

MrEar:
We get hope wella.
We hoped that one day you will accept blood. Now that hope has turned to a reality.

Why not tell him the truth before now?🙂

MrEar:
Oh! you are proud that a court ruled in your favour but you dont want your members to go to university and become lawyers.Chai! Na Wa O

They don't care all they do is follow the rumors! Exodus 23:1-2

Janosky:
Oga, this is a public forum.
It's better you say nothing than spread false claims because yoi don't like JW's.
A.i Overview
JW's won the case & the Court ruled against the Govt of Norway.
Jehovah’s Witnesses (represented by the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society) won a significant appeal against the Norwegian state in early 2025 regarding their registration and state subsidies, reversing a previous decision.
Key Details of the Ruling:
Court of Appeal Decision: The Borgarting Court of Appeal ruled that the government’s decision to revoke Jehovah’s Witnesses' registration as a religious community and deny them state subsidies was invalid.
Shunning Policy: The court did not find it substantiated that the Witnesses' practice of shunning ("social distancing" members who leave the community violates the right to free withdrawal from a religion, overturning a lower court ruling that deemed it "psychological violence" against minors".

FxMasterz:
There are no criminal accusation against Jesus. Even Pilates abd thieves crucified with Him testified that The was a righteous man.

The politician who doesn't know why Jesus was charged and the criminal who doesn't know Jesus throughout his life as a criminal can testify not gullible people like you following rumors!🙂

MrEar:
He said he has noticed not a single witness is sad over the fact that some late members died because of their leaders past policy on blood, or the fact that some members requested if they can store their blood and their request was denied.

This is not the real life faithful servants of God desire {1Timothy 6:19} because we know it's normal here for people to grow old, get sick and die that is why no servant of our God is scared to die {Romans 8:38} so when you see JWs cry over the death of our loved ones it's the happy moments we have spent together and how long we have to wait until this system of things is wrapped off and they are resurrected back to life that makes us cry. Jesus cried for the same reason even though he has the power to raise his friend back to a temporary life. John 11:35
So if any of our brothers or sisters have lived faithfully to the end {Matthew 24:13} we are certain that they are coming back to life {John 11:24} when death will be no more neither mourning nor cry be anymore! Revelation 21:3-4 compare to Isaiah 25:8

Nah unah no get hope!🙂

At least you've seen how many accusations were leveled against Jesus and his disciples among the Jews and up till today that's what they are still talking about.
Here is a video showing how Israelites decided to ban Christianity:
https://youtube.com/shorts/0AUh9bkCNhU?si=H2iT9KKefQqxs9WJ
How many criminal cases have you seen in your own neighborhood regarding what you called "CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION" ?🙂

FxMasterz:
Kikikikiki.

Looking for a way to defend the criminal organization.

Nobody accused Jesus of any crime. Defamation and disinformation after His departure is a different thing, and none of them say He committed any crime of any sort.

Abeg, tell your governing thieves to refund the Norwegian government all the money they diverted without doing the charity for which the funds were provided.

Norway has even deregistered the crimson organization. 😂 😂

You guys don't know more than twisting the Bible to defend your false doctrines. See how you're attempting to defame Jesus in order to make your organization look good.

Until then nah!🤣

Courz:
Yes o. Some are even helping their non JW friends organize theirs. Some JW parents send messages to their children on their Birthdays. We dey here dey wait to see what MaxinDhouse and Janosky will say when this change comes. Lol.

Janosky:
Nah you organize am ?
Nah your mentees nau.
Chuldren wey no dey hear word.

Now it's obvious they weren't crying due to love for JWs rather it's there rebellious hearts that's disturbing them!🤣

Floww23:
Ignorance
How many Baptized witnesses are around the world ?

FAILURE AGAIN!🙂
How many people became disciples of Christ when he walked the earth?
Jesus never said we will outnumber you faithless people o rather all wanted is two to three witnesses in each community. Matthew 18:20
So how many countries do you think there is no single JW?🙂

Janosky:
As e dey sweet us, e dey sweet us
E dey pain dem.
Bro, we owe dem anything?

Ọmọ i wonder o!😀

These are LIES that Jews were fed back in the first century which makes them hate Jesus and his disciples with passion.
So if you keep on following news that's circulating instead of studying those who had been accused of the crime you are just like the Jews.
For your information a Jew will spit on you simply because you bear that group name "Christian" due to these lies.
Now back to what you are parading here on Nairaland.
How many JWs have you found in your neighborhood committing any of those crimes mentioned on social media?🙂

FxMasterz:
all these are not crimes, and no Jew in Jesus' day held such views of Jim. Stop lying! If His disciples stole His body after His death, is that also a crime He was accused of leading to His sentencing? Kikikikiki.

FxMasterz:
Do you need to be a righteous man for anyone to believe in you? I don't understand how you reason!

Let me help you with what majority of the Jews heard about Jesus of Nazareth back then!

[1] Mary his mother got pregnant by another man and Joseph gullibly took her as wife because he had spent lots of money on her during their courtship.

[2] John the baptist who claimed Jesus is the Christ was a demonic man who happens to be Jesus' cousin.

[3] Jesus was gay that's why nobody suspected him since he's doing bone to bone.

[4] He was secretly sleeping with Mary Magdalene and she actually had a child for him.

[5] He learned magic from demons to make people follow him.

[6] He was arrested, charged, convicted, sentenced and executed lawfully.

[7] His followers came to steal his body at night and later started claiming he has risen from the dead.

All these allegations were documented in the Bible as his disciples kept writing all the evil things their religious leaders were spreading against Jesus that is why they organized thugs to continue attacking Jesus' disciples everywhere they could be found but when the Roman authorities wanted to see to the matter Jewish religious leaders use Paul who is an international lawyer to continue the prosecution after all he can defend whatever the thugs do to Jesus' disciples as he knew the laws of both Rome and Jews.

But when Jesus snatched Paul away from them they decided to kill Paul too.

So do you think anyone hearing these things will think twice before condemning Jesus and his disciples?🙂