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FxMasterz:
Yeah, that's correct. You know I've never hated you. I don't have anything against you in spite of our disagreements. My heart is pure towards you. I don't abhor anything even when you blackmail me. I don't think any evil of you. I believe you also know this. I love everyone with the love of Christ, including you.

Ok o!

I have heard you.

Emusan:
Ojigbijigbi.....
See this shameless lying liar.
SINCE YOU CLAIMED I MISUNDERSTOOD YOU, THEN ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.
1. Who are the WE?
2. Which name was GIVEN to this 'WE'
3. Which NAME was LEFT by the WE?
3. Who are the WE left the NAME for?

Ọmọ it's like you love giving yourself unnecessary headache o!

We are the one and only true Christian group so where countless religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines are claiming they belong to the same body count us out! Revelations 18:4

FxMasterz:
Alright. That's nice.

Faith can cause a lot that's why it's better to leave it when there's no agreement and continue living as neighbors, after all whether we share the same beliefs or not he commanded us to love our neighbors as ourselves {Mark 12:31} but when it's time for sacred services that's when to say GOODBYE TILL WE MEET SOME OTHER TIME!

Emusan:
I provided the evidence yesterday now you're lying again
The screenshot is here again.
Shameless lying liar Jws like his father the Devil
Who are the 'WE' who were given the name (CHRISTIAN), who are the 'WE' who left the name (CHRISTIAN) for 'US' and who are the 'WE' who doesn't want to SHARE ANYTHING WITH others?
Still lying with this irrefutable evidence

Surely you misunderstood me because we are the one and only true Christian group but never on the same page with you people!

Emusan:
That's why 1914 will continue to be Watchtower fraud even though the SDA they steal that idea from have long thrown it away.

OK o!

Emusan:
This is Daniel 4:30 and show me where Nebuchadnezzar said HE BUILT THE CITY ALL BY HIMSELF
"The king spoke and said, “Is not this great Babylon that I have built for the house of the kingdom, by the might of my power and for the honor of my majesty?” Compare this with Isaiah 44:24 where God lied (according to you) "Thus saith the Lord, thy Redeemer, and He that formed thee from the womb: I am the Lord that maketh all things, that stretcheth forth the heavens alone, that spreadeth abroad the earth by Myself; Even the Prov 8:22-30 didn't support your lie. The speaker TALKED ABOUT WHO IS CARRYING OUT THE CREATION ACTIVITIES.
Read it slowly and see that the speaker says "When HE spread... I use to ask you people who is that 'HE' the speaker was referencing? But you people will turn a blind eyes to it

Jesus was talking about how his father did so many things through him.

Jozzy4:
" ONLY " The Father knows 😂😂
Don't be ashamed, both are two persons . Tell us how many Knows 😂😂😂😂

I thought they said Holy Spirit is a person so how come two persons knows something yet Jesus said ONLY the father?

Emusan:
So you know more than Jesus Himself.
No wonder you're there when Jesus declared 1914 as His year of return

OK o!

Emusan:
The bitterness is fully on you
Reason why why you're so restless on this forum
The shameless lying liar says He never said THE ORGANIZATION HAS ABANDONED THE NAME CHRISTIAN.
"Whoever claimed he belongs to Jesus under the cursed and bastardized old group name, should think twice"
"A CHRISTIAN can turn his back on the true God but a Jehovah witness will never turn his back" But today the lying liar jws like his father the Devil says he never deny being a CHRISTIAN.

Why not save yourself the long epistle and quote me saying:
Jehovah's Witnesses or we or i have abandoned the group name "CHRISTIANS"

When next you're following someone try to do so intelligently not maliciously because you will think you're following whereas in the real sense you're lost!

FxMasterz:
Lol.
So, you have such a good sense of humor?

Do you think faith can makes someone a sadist?
Of course i joke a lot, have lots of friends who aren't even members of JWs and enjoy joyful moments with them but my happiest moments is when i'm in the congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Jozzy4:
Why is God the Father never a Son but every other creature were called a Son?

Sometimes i wonder what exactly makes them feel they have woken up and know better than JWs as they're claiming JW PIMO.

MightySparrow:
He is a pentecostal, a trinitarian. What else is left about speaking for myself? Okay, do you agree with him and his faith?

You're never serious with matters of faith so i have nothing to say to you, let whoever i'm chatting with talk for himself or herself.

FxMasterz:
Lol.
Okay, I thought she's your wife.

Wife kẹ̀?

Well she maybe Fernando's fiancee sha cause the naughty boy told me he's going for a Brazilian who is half cast.

FxMasterz:
Is that your wife in the picture?

If you want to chat with intelligent people try to be focused not expecting supporting comments because real people don't flow with crowd rather we flow with sound reasoning which majority don't possess.
She's just a sportsperson with sense as you can see from her comment!

FxMasterz:
I just pray he listens.

It's obvious you don't have anything further to say other than quoting third parties. Just forget about such prayers because it'll never ever work in my case that's why your friends claiming JW PIMO can't go elsewhere.

Emusan:
Upon all your lies being exposed on this thread you still have the gut to be spewing nonsense shameless lying liar Jws.

Why are you always bitter about the faith of others?
Ọmọ from other people's point of view you're also a LIAR o.
So hold on firmly to your faith if you're truly convinced don't let what others say confuse you!

Emusan:
The year 1914 is the issue here, in your rant no SPECIFIC DATE was mentioned by Jesus

So it's until he mentioned before you believe all what he said regarding his presence shey?

Emusan:
It's Col 1:15 the same verse that has been knocked into your empty skull several times.
God USED Jesus because your god so impotent that he couldn't do creation ALL BY HIMSELF as against declaration of the Great Yahweh the Godbof Isreal who confirmed that HE DID CREATION ALL BY HIMSELF. Isa 44:24, 40: 28, Ps 104:24, Prov 8:22-30

So when Nebuchadnezzar said he built Babylon with his own hands it means the man built the city all alone shey? Daniel 4:30

Come-on even Jesus himself declared that all the glory and honor should go to his father who is the brain behind everything {John 5:30} as he is just like a craftsman beside his Creator during the creation of all other things. Proverbs 8:22-30

Emusan:
So you can't point to where Jesus ANNOUNCED 1914, yet you keep on announcing what Jesus announced
To point where Jesus make announcement of 1914 has turned to a long story

That's what FAITH means!

"Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen." Hebrews 11:1

He said:

“Because you have seen me, have you believed? Happy are those who have not seen and yet believe.” Luke 22:29

So if you don't believe despite all what he said we will see as evidence of his presence {Matthew 24:7-14} i do sir!

Emusan:
You keep on announcing what Jesus announced. So where did Jesus announce the year 1914?

Where did the Hebrew scriptures announce that the Christ came in the first century?

You and i believe that Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ not because we saw any date given in the old testament pointing to the day the Christ will be born and for your information that's why Jews today don't believe that Jesus of Nazareth is the expected Messiah (Christ)

So what is the evidence that Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ?

Well it's events surrounding his birth, childhood, ministry, death, resurrection and of course the group he commissioned.

So in the same manner the year 1914 carries all the fulfillment of prophecies Jesus foretold regarding his presence till today.

Sand2022:
Your reply isn't addressing the part of my post you bold faced. I replied Jozzy4 on the issue of Jesus being a creator. You can read it if you wish.

God created you through your parents! Colossians 1:16

So are your parents your creators?
Of course you will say NO.

The same applies to Jesus, as a spirit being God used him as His first creation to make all other things just as God used Adam to populate our planet with humans no wonder both of them were called God's Sons! John 3:16; Luke 3:38

MightySparrow:
So, Sir, don't deceive yourself that maximumSide is reasoning with you.

Why is it that you're always scared to speak for your own beliefs?

For your information Jehovah's Witnesses have always believed that no other organization is worshiping their God.

Right from the onset Abraham never believe that anyone outside his family of faithful ones are worshipers of his God that's why he will not allow his son Isaac to marry from pagans despite the fact that those he referred to as pagans were created by the same God Almighty.

Israelites never believe that other nations are worshiping their God apart from those under the same covenant with the God of Abraham.

Jews never believe that any other race worship their God and Jesus himself confirmed this at Jacob's well. John 4:22

Christians don't agree that any other group are worshiping their God apart from their own fellow believers.

So if you're of the opinion that worshipers from different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines are worshiping your own God i don't from my own understanding it must be One Lord One Faith One baptism! Ephesians 4:5

FxMasterz:
The guy is a character. I am really tired of reading from him. I just pray he finds his bearing before it is too late.

FxMasterz:
As long as the intent is to protect an organization rather than to defend one's soul, any human would do the same. The organization is more important to him than his soul.

There is no idleness or singleness in whatever God assigned His worshipers to do that's why Jesus gathered a group, taught them how to do God's work and worked with them.

So without an organized group of people doing what you believe you are more or less an atheist to me because that's exactly how they feel about worshiping God!

FxMasterz:
You mentioned again?
I do not attend Winners Chapel. Please be corrected. See, I do not go by conventional Christianity myself. I have studied wide to discover that the Roman Catholics delivered a lot of falsehoods to us. In an attempt to discover what the real truth is, studies were made by many groups, certain truths were established and this led to denominations. Each denomination was founded by groups that believed in the same truths they discovered. Truths are still being discovered as we speak, and there are still many breakouts as a result. I have questioned many things in my own Christian journey. I have visited Roman Catholic, JW, Anglican Methodist White Garment and eventually settled for Pentecostalism because that's where the Gospel is practically demonstrated. Pentecostalism keeps updating because they're very flexible and open to learning new things as are being thought by the Holy Ghost. That does not mean there are no charlatans among them as there are in all denominations and groups. So, my argument or conclusions are not one sided as you suppose. Except you have had varied experiences as I, you probably would never understand the errors you hold on to. As I said earlier, I'm not the conventional Christian. I'm Pentecostal but I can admit that Pentecostalism is not perfect. No denomination is perfect. No organization is perfect. The Roman Catholics bastardized Christianity before the Reformation. The Reformation has not stopped. God is still reforming the Church. That is why we need to keep following God bumper to bumper so as to keep ourselves updated regarding what God is doing right now. Many organizations are dwelling on what God has done yesterday. God has moved on, and they were left behind because they were myopic. I keep studying the scriptures for myself without being carried away by the rules or doctrines of Pentecostalism. God deals with people individually and not as a group. That's why I just laugh at your ignorance when you always ask for a church. You seem to believe that truth can only be found in a church. A church is governed physically by individuals who claim to receive from God. They are mere men. There's nothing special about them. They're just the usual human beings like you with the same weaknesses and needs. But the truth is that God gives revelation and light to all His children. All you need is to open your heart directly to keep receiving what God is saying. Any son that cannot reserve directly from his father is a bastard. You agree with me? If someone must always tell you what your father wants you to do, is that not a bastard to whom the father will never speak directly? Everyone child of God can receive from God. There's no one anywhere who has that monopoly. Anybody claiming the monopoly of receiving from God on behalf of others is a deceiver. Even when truth is supposedly delivered to you, sieve it through the lenses of God's word. The mighty falls. If you think that the mighty is infallible, you'll fall with him when he falls. There's no one on earth who cannot at anytime fall into errors. That's why you need to check what you hear and read before believing it totally in your heart. It doesn't matter who is speaking or writing. All teachings must align with the word of God. Otherwise, you'll have yourself to blame when you stand before the Almighty God all alone to account for the life you lived on earth. Even the so-called custodians of truth would not be there for you on that day. Everyman to himself. And hey! No one would be held responsible for your errors in believing in wrong doctrines and falsehoods. Even the peddler of false doctrines would not be held responsible for misleading you. You're responsible for yourself and for yourself alone. Therefore, shine your eyes.

Appreciate your full response on this but there is one person each researcher need to always strive to avoid no matter how far you go during your research:

SATAN and his tactics!

Who is Satan and what is his tactics?

Satan knew very well that no intelligent being is happy when idle because we were never created to be idle {Genesis 2:15} so he always figure out something to replace divine assignment that true worshipers supposed to do {Ephesians 4:14} that's why the scriptures admonished each believer to hold firm what he BELIEVES the preaching and teaching work {Hebrews 10:23} which Jesus assigned to his loyal friends {Matthew 10:11-13} because by doing so they will save themselves and those who listen to them {1Timothy 4:16} as they go from house to house sharing the GOOD NEWS of God's kingdom with their neighbors God's angels are observing and penning down their names {Malachi 3:16} that's the main reason why Christians should not miss their gathering together {Hebrews 10:24-25} because its when they gather for this purpose that Jesus will come into their midst! Matthew 18:20


So no matter the research a believer is carrying out he must never ever forsake the gathering of those doing that assignment because Satan will make inexperience ones feel they are doing something tangible when they have become totally idle.

That's the same tactics he used to divert angels in heaven away from God's work and it's the same tactics he used in diverting Adam and Eve away from their divine assignment all in the name of making research.

Angels who left their assigned duties in heaven thought they were making research into other things {Jude :6} Satan never told them that they are living what they are supposed to do for what they thought is 'research making' which is tantamount to disobedience! 1Peter 3:19-20

So as a believer in Christ Jesus i am working at what i'm convinced of along with my brothers and sisters globally therefore whatever research anyone has made my first question will be:

What are we to do now as fellow believers and who are we to work with in achieving the goal? Act 2:37

In the absence of what to switch to just as those first century Judaists asked Peter and the group we are to work with i suspect Satan is at it again.

Thanks!

Jesus returned in the year 1914!

Wonderful thread!

achorladey:
Emusan, FxMasterz, Courz

This is what i'm saying, you called three names to come and examine what i believe regarding the organization i associate with.

Before any of them could sincerely speak on the matter what is the name of their church so we can all speak freely regarding the teachings of our DIFFERENT religions churches?

achorladey:
When you are shown how you question the faith of others

In what way do you question what you don't know?

Come on, only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have what could be questioned because you know what they preach and teach.

As for all the others like your friend they are HIDING their beliefs claiming they are Christians when you and i know that there is no single religion to be questioned under that name.

Is it Deeperlife, RCCG, MFM, Winner Chapel, Christ Embassy, Foursquare, Chosen, Celestial, Cherubim and Seraphim just to mention few that you know what they preach or teach?

Nobody is questioning anyone's faith on this forum except Jehovah's Witnesses alone and you people are doing so because we preach and teach in your homes.

So in what sense can i question the faith that i don't even know?

achorladey:
When you are showed

Showed what?

You see what i'm telling you?

He is the one QUESTIONING the faith of others not the other way around!

Janosky:
If you get liver,do it . I promise you,your IBERIBEISM must explode on this forum.[/b]

What is the purpose of the Bible?

Paul answered:

All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. 2Timothy 3:16-17

Instead of arguing fruitlessly why not ask them to present a better performing group that's doing God's Work today just as Jesus said regarding the fine fruit? Matthew 7:15-20

Only the NWT has produced millions of zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word globally all others are bench warners in their billions as they attend religious services anywhere they go listening to selected teachers who are making fortunes out of their gullibility! 2Timothy 4:3-4

achorladey:
You don't owe them explanation for their faith

Chai!

Can i owe someone for what he is carrying in his brains when i'm not the one questioning?

Is he not the one coming to question the faith of those who don't owe him any explanation?

Sometimes you just need to calm down and think before typing otherwise you will continue to type angrily out of sense!

FxMasterz:
Have you been to a JW kingdom Hall before? What do you even know? I was there in 2005 when I thought they were real Christians. My eyes started opening from there. If you have not personally verified a thing, you have no right to call those who have tasted it liars. What personal experience do you have with a kingdom Hall? Ex members are exposing them worldwide. There are many court cases against the organization in many countries of the world. Have you heard how the GBs scammed the government of Norway? The money that government gave to the group to be shared to poor members of the group in Norway was never shared. The organization was banned in Norway because of that. You're just inexperienced and overzealous for something you know absolutely nothing about. That's not good.

Ọmọ you're just a bloody LIAR.

If you want to be sincere to your own soul you will listen to both sides carefully and ask both sides questions.

A real intellectual will not take matters the way you're doing because neither the JWs nor Ex-jws is presently worshiping with you in your Winner Chapel Oyedepo Church.

So thought provoking questions will reveal the sincerity of those on both sides not just sitting in one corner questioning one side furiously as if they owe you explanations for their faith.