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Nice thread!

solacong:
God did not, I pointed you to that because you mentioned that "consciousness after death is not in Old Testament"

That's why you need a Bible study with the true Christians.

God didn't approve it because it's deceit from Satan and his demons they are the supernatural beings backing up falsehood that's why they are doing everything possible to support what Satan said in the beginning that rebellion against God's guidance will not be death for real {Genesis 3:4} whereas God's word is that death (return to nonexistence) is the end result of sin {Genesis 2:17 compare to Romans 6:23} Satan and his demons are using false religion to promote this lie that is the reason why forbids His own people not to have anything to do with false religion and whatever comes from it including all practices involving spiritism as Satan and his demons are using is as bait to render people blind to the truth.
You will discover that if someone starts asking you questions regarding the dead of loved ones people use to see or hear about you won't know how to explain. Well that is how Satan and his demons want you to always be: CONFUSED

tctrills:
Yes they are christians. And even we modern christians still have a lot to learn. There are many things we still don't know just like them of old.

Who is a Christian?

Great thread!

Jozzy4:
Thank you.
God the Father never address anyone as his Brother or himself as a Son of anyone. That's the uncreated one. Jesus is our brother

Kò sọ́rọ̀ mọ́!

Emusan:
Double mouthed liar.
Yet you said you never CLAIMED ANY BELIEVE IS WRONG. If not because you lack Basic understanding of English language, you won't be this contradicting yourself. Shameless lying liar!

You don't know that each pastors out there is saying exactly the same thing:

"All pastors are lying except me"

Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo, Oyakilome, Oritsejafor, Olukoya and others are saying the same thing as long as none is ready to serve in the same church that's the reason for all these contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.

Try to be mature Sir your pastors contradicting themselves one another means all other beliefs apart from theirs are wrong!

Jesus Christ returned in the year 1914!

Emusan:
Are others Jws not supposed to benefit from this your PERSONAL RESEARCH? Why haven't you sent a letter to your headquarter about this your new findings? The fact that know Jws will worship with me shows you lie that you never CLAIMED any BELIEVE IS WRONG. Anyway, I know a liar will always remain a lair forever. WHY?
That is the fact that you believe OTHERS belief are WRONG. So shut your lying mouth.

Of course i strongly believe any other forms of worship is WRONG but i won't face the one who believes it and start condemning his faith that's not what Christ Jesus taught me rather he made us fishers of men {Mark 1:17} no fisherman will tell the fish "i want to catch you" nah!
As for the research it was briefly mentioned in a Watchtower study article this year.
In fact i smiled when i saw it and said to myself "this people are wonderful, Jehovah is really using them" because i don't know how we got the same thought without me contracting them!

StillDtruth:
Revelations shows us that no evil doer has paid for his evils by dying. The payment begins when God gives him his reward.by sending him to hell fire, to get the evils and tornents he once gave to others, in fullfillment of Law.

Revelations is about what happens after the resurrection of those who served God faithfully and those who never knew him at all both of them will be allowed to live under Christ's kingdom rule for 1,000 years it's after the thousand years that they will account for what they did during the 1,000 years not what they have paid for at death!

Michael547:
No be small thing oo.....he does not want to accept the fact that good people are in hell too.😂

That's why all of them want to go to heaven as the other option is hell (a place of torment) to them so when they read about faithful servants of God being in hell they are confused!

Michael547:
It therefore means that your beliefs are not based on the bible....you are just sticking to what you've been taught.

The Holy Spirit will teach you how Satan and his demons are tormenting people in Hellfire!

Michael547:
Lol....you are very funny.....who brought up organization matter here....do you expect me to just swallow anything you tell me without asking questions? If you can't answer the questions to the verses I have put up there, does that not show that you are also teaching human philosophies and theories that is not based on the bible?

Since different religions numbering in thousands agree with his HELLFIRE idea yours is human philosophy.
Sometimes i just laugh at them because they don't know and don't want to know.

Who are CHRISTIANS and when was this group commissioned?

Jesus of Nazareth was sent to gather obedient humans throughout the earth so as the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} he is to teach them how they will put away the old personality that was born, bread and raised in sin then teach them how to put on the new personality that was created in God's image {Ephesians 4:22-24} in this way they will continue using what Jesus taught them in the scriptures to divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop producing, buying, selling and using of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 compare to Psalms 46:9
So anyone following Jesus of Nazareth in going about preaching and teaching these things is a Christian because that what he assigned them to do until the conclusion of this system of things! Matthew 28:18-20

But before the birth of Jesus there were humans who have served God faithfully with all their heart, such ones did all what God required of them even in the face of fierce opposition such ones are wordhipers of Jehovah in ancient times. There is one quality that Jehovah saw in them before keeping their memories alive till today! Luke 20:37-38
What is this QUALITY?
It's LOYALTY!
Before God called Abraham out from among his relatives Abraham was a worshiper of idols just as most people of his time {Joshua 24:2} but Jehovah who searches the heart {2Chronicles 16:9} saw in this man a quality that no one has that's why Jehovah called him and lead him to another place and Abraham became the father of all those who has faith in Jehovah. Romans 4:11
Job lived far away from the Israelites vet as far as he is Jehovah saw the same quality in this man {Job 1:8} this means there is a certain quality that attracts Jehovah in those He chooses to make His friends! James 2:23
Today people live in different geographical locations on this planet and just like Abraham before he was called are serving different gods of their ancestors, if they have the same quality as Abel, Enoch , Noah, Abraham, Job and other ancient friends of Jehovah He wants all of them to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers speaking the same language of PEACE! Zephaniah 3:9

But why is Jehovah drawing all these people to Himself despite the fact that they are pagans? John 6:44

Well it's because they have proved to His Witnesses through their actions even though they never had the opportunity to know Him {Romans 2:15-16} so Christianity was commissioned by Christ Jesus to connect these people together as ONE! John 17:20-23

So while a Christian can get tired and stop following Jesus due to delay in what he or she hopes {John 6:66} a Jehovah's Witness will never ever abandon the course {John 6:68-69} he or she believes in One God who has promised to unite all His faithful servants under one umbrella and that is what he will continue to long for all the days of his life as he walks with them doing what our God requires of us with LOVE! Mark 12:30 compare to 1Corinthians 13:13

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Jesus returned in the year 1914!

Wonderful thread meant for those conscious of their spiritual needs! Matthew 5:3

StillDtruth:
But the old testament also said "Vengeance is mine; I will repay," And evil people have tormened others, so they must be tormented. That is The Law.

It's humans that came up with the idea because they don't see justice in death as due punishment for rebellion but from God's point of view death sends the rebellious being to a place {Genesis 2:17} where he or she can't feel or do anything {Ecclesiastes 9:5-10} so at death the sinner has paid fully for his or her wrongdoing! Romans 6:7

New World Translation Of The Holy Scriptures!

Preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all our neighborhood just as Christ Jesus commanded! Matthew 28:19-20

Proof of Act 1:8

StillDtruth:
And great Wrath and vengeance and recompense. And evil people have tormened others, so they must be tormented. That is The Law.

That phrase "torment of the dead" can't be found anywhere in the Old Testament what God said regarding unbelievers is death!

Ezekiel 18:4; 31

StillDtruth:
God's prophets all warned of God's great Wrath and vengeance which since exodus we were fore warned is to come.

YES they warned of DESTRUCTION or EXTERMINATION not a place of torment of the dead!

solacong:
we have necromancer in the Old Testament Sir

Did God approve it?

johnw47:
you follow my articles.

On my own thread o!

Surely something is wrong with your brain!

Wonderful thread meant for those conscious of their spiritual needs! Matthew 5:3

hammed71:
why do pastors and imams now include and mention their account numbers now on their church, mosques and radio programmes.
Is their church and mosque offerings not enough.

They make mention of their account number for their SUBSCRIBERS to support whatever services they are providing it's not for everyone!

Boomark:
We don't pray to human beings and they are not our God that answers our prayers. We are not interested in worshipping with them. If your organisation people are god of men, let them rule over your people. If this was my first experience with JW people, I will not have ever welcomed them. They should pray for themselves and answer their own prayers.

I'm only showing you what you missed or failed to observe during your time of studying the Bible with us.
The truth is that Jehovah commanded his servants not to have anything to do with pagans regarding sacred service so when it's time for sacred service worshipers of Jehovah must separate themselves {2 Corinthians 6:17; Revelations 18:4} because they are no part of the world! John 17:14-16
Prayer is the first step into sacred service so Jehovah warned His worshipers not to pray with or for unbelievers {Jeremiah 11:14} because if they are not ready to listen to Him it's disrespectful to bring them forward to Him in prayer {Proverbs 28:9} Jesus of Nazareth proved to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses {Revelations 1:5} when he also followed the same pattern as he never prayed for or with anyone until he is sure that such ones are ready to do what God sent him to tell them! John 17:8-9

So my neighbor now you know the truth about Jehovah's Witnesses just as my research which you rejected says that the group name CHRISTIANS has been mishandled by pagans who doesn't know anything about our God and His ways that is why He chose to call His own worshipers by another group name in this endtime: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

If you never notice anything while studying the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses intelligent ones do, they will never ever agree with you to lead them in prayer because you don't know the laws of their God! Proverbs 28:9; Jeremiah 11:14; John 17:8-9

This doesn't make you my enemy it just means that you are my neighbor so i must love you as i love myself {Mark 12:31} but as for my brothers and sisters in the faith i must love them just as Jesus loves me {John 17:22} don't be offended with what you're reading now that is just the truth about God's organization for you!

StillDtruth:
See it. Google already shows that it also means
Spiritually it is known as the abode of the damned in the afterlife in Jewish and Christian beliefs.

God's servants (Prophets) never taught the consciousness after death it was gotten from Babylonian and Greek mythology that is why you can't find any fitting scriptures to back it in the Old Testament.
All quotations to support torment after death is taken from the New Testament where Jesus used illustrations in his teachings!

Jesus began ruling in heaven In the year 1914!

Wonderful thread.

Boomark:
Even false prophets receive x 1 million praises. Those praising you might not know anything.
If it is not from the scripture, forget it. It was dead on "researchal." In other words, It died immediately you started the research.

Sorry is there anything like research here?

Guy, i am telling you to go and ask your Bible study conductor whatever question you have regarding Jehovah's Witnesses period!

StillDtruth:
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The word “Gehenna” is the Aramaic word for lake of fire. It is also called “gehinnom” used in the Hebrew language. Spiritually it is known as the abode of the damned in the afterlife in Jewish and Christian beliefs.

It simply means the valley of the son of Hinnon during the time of Jeremiah some Jews used to burn their children as sacrifices to Molek the true God condemned the act and said such has not come into His heart {Jeremiah 7:31} that's why we don't believe the true can do such a thing because he said it has not come into His heart! Jeremiah 19:5

Boomark:
We have agreed to reject his research.

I don't even expect members of Watchtower to accept it talkless you because i'm not the faithful and discreet slave feeding Jesus' sheep.

But one thing is certain:

Call yourself by the group name CHRISTIAN no member of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES organization will welcome a prayer from you neither will they accept to worship with you elsewhere except inside the Kingdom Hall of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

That's food for thought!