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Emusan:
Yes!
My scholars have pointed that out as the FOUR Tetragrammaton letter never appear in that verse in any known manuscripts.
Do you then agree that NWT made mistake also for using that name in that verse?

NO!
That's why we are using NWT but since you think the KJV is not reliable then why are you still using it?

SIRTee15:
Do not call the name of your God in vain. The 4th commandment.
“You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.

What correlation has this nonsense got to do with my post?

AbuTwins:
Of course sir the OP is not for JWs. You don't believe in the Trinity! Nor that the father, son and Spirit are coequal, coeternal with distinct personalities! Na those Christians wey believe such i dey ask!

Have found the word TRINITY in the Bible or is there anywhere the Bible said Father, Son and Spirit are coequal?
Well i was a Muslim too so i know why you're happy arguing with deluded religionists who are claiming Christians when what they believe is not found written in God's word!

AbuTwins:
So which Bible verse(s) proves without ambiguity that the Spirit is God Omniscient?

fxmasterz
Kobojunkie
MaxInDHouse
Flows001
Jaycee07
Ken4Christ
BeigJawnson
Aemmyjah
HISSCRIBE1995

Please when next you want to argue with your friends don't include me i believe whatever is found written in the Bible not dogmas!

Solajinspiratio:
Divine Revelation: Jehovah’s Witnesses Founder Charles T. Russell Is Agonizing In Hell.

Instead of talking about what God said in plain words you're quoting the nightmares of some deluded Churchians shey?
Continue deceiving yourself!

PastorAIO:
Why are you lying? It's so self defeating. You should know that I am not convinced by your lies. Where did Satan say that there is No Death? The wages of Sin is death was said at a later part of the bible. god said that on the day that he eats a fruit on that day he will surely die. That too was a lie. There was no death on that day.

How old was Adam when he died?
Because the highlighted shows you need more knowledge to understand that Adam died the very day he sinned:

"However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day" 2Peter 3:8

Adam lived 930 years {Genesis 5:5} and no man lived up to 1,000 years meaning all sinners dies within one day!

Ohyoudidnt:
Quite an interesting but appropriate question

The Holy Spirit was given to Jesus by his father so it's not Jesus' property that's why he begged his father to give his disciples the same active force in other for the (as imperfect humans) to meet up with the responsibility of disciple making which they can't do without the spirit of God!

Michael547:
If God does not need a name, How do you explain psalm 83:18 in the screenshot below?

I think King James made a mistake!

Aemmyjah:
Does Jesus who you also address as God need a name?

Hen nah!

StillDtruth:
Off point!
You are the one misleading others now.

Until you present a single Nairalander who is not misleading then i will believe you're mentally stable because from what i noticed about mad people everyone around them are misleading!

Catapault:
The overwhelming majority of near-death experiencers state that they did NOT want to return. But they were told that it was 'not their time' to be there, and that they still had some work to do here.

They describe the level of joy, acceptance, and love there as 'indescribable' by our standards.

I've read testimonies of people who say that there are COLOURS that exist there that don't exist on earth.

Nothing ever withers or decays like here on Earth.

Like here where you build a house and a few years later it needs repainting etc.

No such thing there.

Plus green grass looks perfectly green, and everything looks exactly as it should look, just as though it was created today, ie fresh and new, etc etc.

That this Earth plane is just a poor and lousy imitation of there.

There is no night time.

It's always DAYTIME (with no sun), and there is no sleeping.

You don't even need to eat or drink, but you can if you want.

It's usually the newly arrived people that do that, because they are used to such, coming from Earth.

After a while they don't bother.

There's no gravity, so you have houses and buildings on the ground, and up in the air.

One more thing. Do you know why we experience the passage of time here?

It is because we are suffering. Even our so-called rich people are suffering.

Afterall, there is always something to worry about, no matter how rich you are.

Ever noticed how when you are having a good time, TIME passes by so quickly?

But when you are suffering, it passes by slowly?

It's because TIME is an illusion of the mind. It is the state of your Consciousness that determines if there is 'time'.

In conditions of TOTAL enjoyment and satisfaction as exist there, (ie our biggest state of enjoyment here multiplied by 2,000) you do not experience the passage of time AT ALL.

Everything happens in what is called 'The Eternal Now'.

It's very hard to explain or understand in our dimension.

Now imagine being in that situation, and then they now tell you, oya it's time to go back!

It's like they are sending you to hell.

That's why they say that if there is any hell, it is this Earth you are in now. Nowhere else.

Many people fall on their knees begging not to be sent back here.

As you're begging, you'll suddenly find yourself on the hospital bed, getting revived by doctors, and voila! You're back.

I want you to make this personal!

If you truly believe what this people told you i am asking you in person:

Between this side and the other side which one do you prefer?

PastorAIO:
Although The Serpent said 'you will not certainly die'. Very different from 'you will certainly not die'. It introduce the issue of probability by stating that the death was not certain. It never said there was a certain death.

God said DEATH is the wages of sin but Satan said there is NO DEATH whoever is claiming that death doesn't end the existence of physical creatures is on Satan's side!

Catapault:
99% of near-death experiencers do not utter this rubbish you said. These are real human beings like you who went through a trauma that a fool like you has never experienced, so you need to humble yourself, quit being an idiotic jerk, and respect/ponder upon what they are telling the world.

The fact that their experience contradicts what your religion says should make you question the accuracy of your British-handed, zero evidenced ‘holy book’, instead of trying to mock them.

The links have been provided for you to read their accounts.

If you were intelligent, you would quietly spend some hours to read those accounts, to educate yourself on transition.

Please between this side and the other side which one would you prefer?

They are just envious of God's people being preachers and teachers of God's word so they also want to teach but the incoherency really makes me laugh!

What is hard in Jesus been a MESSENGER of God asking his father to send that active force which He uses in accomplishing His purpose to imperfect humans who are willing to work with God in gathering obedient ones globally?

Aemmyjah:
Don't mind him
Why must Jesus ask?
Since they are equal, Jesus could send his own spirit

Àbí o, since God and Jesus share the same spirit why couldn't Jesus just send his own spirit instead of asking the father?

Aemmyjah:
So Jesus will ask God to send himself to the Apostles? Was it that same God that someone else wanted to buy?

If the spirit of God is God himself that means Jesus will tell/order his father to send himself (the father) to Jesus' disciples!

Solajinspiratio:
Archangel Michael revealed to Daniel the sinful lifestyle and unrepentant condition that brought Fela Kuti to Hell after his death on Earth in 1997.

GOD:
"But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die" Genesis 2:17


SATAN:
“You certainly will not die" Genesis 3:4b

So if Fela is alive somewhere now who lied in the beginning between the two persons above?

Aemmyjah:
Where is it written that Holy Spirit is God?

Then Man's spirit is man na

You're looking for our trouble o!

Michael547:
So Jesus told Jesus to sit at his right hand in psalm 110:1?

Michael547:
So Sovereign God told Sovereign God to sit at his right hand?

Michael! Michael!! You're looking for our trouble o!

After all the teachings how many percentage are you giving out of your salary

Aemmyjah:
The Creation period was witnessed by how many beings?

"When he prepared the heavens, I was there; When he marked out the horizon on the surface of the waters" Proverbs 8:27

"Then I was beside him as a master worker. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time" Proverbs 8:30


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. This one was in the beginning with God. All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. What has come into existence. John 1:1-3

I think the highlighted in blue is sufficient enough!

Catapault:
What a load of rubbish. There is nothing scientific about what you wrote, and you clearly pulled this garbage out of your asss. Biologically speaking, clinical death is the same thing as actual death. It is just that some people can be revived and some cannot. If you are certified clinically dead, your brain does not “continue working”, and blood does not flow to it, or to any part of your body, and most certainly “parasites” cannot make your dead brain see heaven and your loved ones, a Being of Light who emits pure love and acceptance, or make you fly and see your body from an external position. Something that “parasites” cannot do for you when you alive and well, is most certainly something that “parasites” cannot do for you when you’re certified clinically dead. For people like you too thick-headed to learn new things different from what you were programmed to believe as a child, YOU will only learn the truth after you die. In the meantime, keep foolishly and stupidly dismissing the experience of MILLIONS of people who state that their experience in THAT realm, felt more REAL than THIS current experience.

It has not come to this nah!

Abeg ni vex it's just a discussion and if you believe what people say then i too believe what people say that after they died they went to heaven and saw both Jesus and Satan, Jesus dancing hallelujah while Satan is roasting some people for suya all nah heresay!

mercygrey177:
Thank you. I see what's he's trying to do. because from what I have gathered I don't think he knows or believes in Jesus cause if he does, he would understand the context of my post

And he believes right?

Aemmyjah:
Fairminded ones on social media have taken to our website and even personally investigated such claims. The result? They are joining Jehovah's people cos all these things are lies to malign us
I can even come out tomorrow and publish similar story or even take in to a online news outlet or editor to publish

I heard such reports too when I was not a Witness... They did not even make any sense... I did my investigation, a woman was disfellowshipped. Angrily, she began to tell people lies that her father used to abuse her and pass her around to be abused. Imagine!
Later, she was talking to a boy not to allow himself to be confined to by his parents but be [b]free... That she wanted going out with men but she did not like the idea of remaining a virgin till she get married and her parents were strict. She rebelled and left the house and was disfellowshipped and her first intercourse was pleasurable tho painful... See the person that is telling people that her father used to abuse her and pass her around... Fear that gender.
When she saw that I began to welcome the Witnesses, she discouraged me. Said she was abused by every man in the congregation... When I did not listen, she said any man and woman preaching together go to an hotel to have sex... I did not listen, she said all JWs use juju... I did not listen and I never thought of becoming a Witness either... The mad fool that was condemning Christians for abandoning african traditional powers and following 'white man God' is accusing them of using juju... Later she said if one is disfellowshipped, they will force his employer to sack him... Later she said they like watching their children die... That they hate Jesus Christ which is why they don't observe xmas and Easter... If I become a Witness, I won't marry at all and I must preach everyday and be begging people for money... That they are a secret cult that hate our country to support USA... All these accusations just made her annoying and determined to know the Witnesses more... Later, she starts to call me names and insults like like you hear one of them here call me fornicator and call Max, Madmax... Realizing that her madness is only creating a negative effect, she apologized to me and was trying to teach me to date one girl and sex life... Later, she told my family that I want to be JW and if they allow me, I'll hate them...[/b]

When one is handed over to Satan, it's just madness that fill them... How can a father be abusing a girl and handing her to others for sex yet, he's strict on her relationship with others and she had her first sex after she left home? I got to know this by accident from her mouth. Fear that gender

Abeg, you can listen to online stories and allegations whether true or not to satisfy your pain and envy. Wisdom is proved righteous by her children
Everyday I thank God I did not fall for this lies... Life of a JW is the best life ever

At times i need to read all comments on threads o, how come i missed the highlighted?

Something similar happened to me too, a lady (staying with a man without marriage) told me JWs are demonic and that they don't celebrate birthdays, Christmas, naming ceremony and lots more so i said it will make a lot of sense to confront them but she objected furiously that instead i should just send them away.
I said but that doesn't make sense to me since i've not found out why they don't celebrate all those things then she told me they don't use to pray and of course for almost three weeks they've been visiting they didn't pray so i told her that's true then she gained a upper hand demanding that i should stop them from coming but i told her i need to know why they don't pray she got really annoyed at me saying they shouldn't be welcomed since they never prayed for me the first time i told her i don't know them so why should i pray with them or close my eyes in their presence?
That week it was as if someone hint the JWs about my discussion with that lady because the brother conducting my study that day said:

"Now that you've been attentive and willing to know more about Jehovah it is necessary that we start with prayer so that Jehovah will help you to remember the things you're learning and how to stand by it"

It was like a heavy load was lifted of my shoulders because i was determined to stop them from coming since they don't use to pray though the whole thing doesn't make sense to me because normally i don't feel like praying with strangers but just to please my neighbour who has been complaining bitterly about my attention to the JWs but after that day i began having a doubt about all the things she told me and i will ask questions only for the JWs to use the scriptures in answering my questions!

Catapault:
These two websites feature over 5,000 accounts of the Afterlife by Near Death Experiencers from all over the world.

So it's the nightmare some people heard that you want to base your beliefs on right?

What of those who also had the same experience about Hellfire and Heaven do you believe what they said too?

We have a lot of parasite in our body so at the point when we loose consciousness the brain continues working until we are biologically dead but until then all the movement of parasites in our bodies sends messages to the brain how each person interprets it after they regain consciousness is what you're hearing from people nothing happens to us after we die!

Catapault:
Very good.

Whenever I hear people telling those who have passed over to ''rest in peace'', I just shake my head at the way christianity has turned the truth upside down.

The 'dead' are NOT 'resting in peace'.

In fact it is while we are HERE that we are ''resting in ignorance''.

The amount of activity on the Other Side is indescribable.

Proof please!

Perhaps this is the type of evidence you have NOLLYWOOD MOVIES!

Petalss:
If according to MAX's narration the person said Oh My GOD!, holding and facing the accident victim, are you alright? It is necessary to say hey friend, I am not your God but I am fine now

It happens in many cultures sometimes when people see things that amazes them they will shout:
"My Lord and my God!"
It doesn't mean that what they saw is their God nah!

Ken4Christ:
Read the passage again. Thomas said to him (Jesus), My Lord and my God. It wasn't just an exclamation into the air. He directed the statement to Jesus.

At seeing him Thomas exclaimed not that he's calling Jesus his Lord and God because in the same chapter Jesus told a disciple to go and tell others:

“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

Now try to correlate the above with what you think Thomas meant.

Jesus said his father is our father and his God is our God!

Ken4Christ:
But I just quoted a verse of scripture to buttress my point. It seems you really enjoy being an anti Christ.

You quoted OUT OF CONTEXT!

If your interpretation is not coherent with God's purpose then it simply means you quoted it without understanding it.

The natural man means the person who doesn't believe in the existence of invisible beings so when talking about God and angels it's beyond his comprehension. That's what the scriptures is saying there.
It couldn't have been that people will become born again before they can understand God's word that negates the scriptures that says it's after hearing that they develope faith! Romans 10:14

Of course you quote but what you quoted has no correlation with what you're saying if i become born again before talking to you then what is the essence of you explaining anything for me? Is it not the born again that the spirit of God teaches? John 16:12-13

Ken4Christ:
Muslim scholar wants a proof where Jesus said he is God. The exclamation of Thomas is one of such proof. When he saw Jesus after his resurrection, he exclaimed;

John 20:27-28
27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

If Jesus is not God, he would have told Thomas, please don't call me God.

What other proof do you need to know who Jesus truly is?

Three weeks ago my colleague had an accident and almost got burnt he narrowly escaped and when he came around one of our business associates shouted "My God!" so our friend who was involved in an accident is now his God shey?

Nonsense and Ingredients!

Ken4Christ:
This is why everyone needs to be born again so that you will have the capacity to grasp spiritual truth. The scripture says;
1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Mumu!
Is it not after someone understands what you want to say that they can decide to become whatever you think they should become?
If they must become born again before they understand is that not self deceit?
Mystery and they must be born again before they can understand.
Funny Churchian!

Ken4Christ:
it a mystery.

So there's no need to blame those that rejects it since it's a MYSTERY!

When true believers are talking about the deeper things sometimes it's better to humbly learn otherwise you won't know the reason why most people claiming they believe the teacher finds it extremely difficult to do what the teacher commanded his disciples! Matthew 28:19-20

MindHacker9009:
Only true Judaism can save MaxInDhouse now as he has graduated from a radical organisation to delusional organization.

True Judaism!