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cutecommend:
Any pastor, apostle, reverend, preacher, clergy etc. that tells you Jesus Christ revealed to him or her to ignore a part of the Bible is a liar or not saying the truth. Also, Jesus Christ will not tell any apostle, reverend, preacher etc, to ignore what Paul said in the Bible.
If someone has his opinion about Paul, it is an error or fallacy to say Jesus Christ told them to ignore Paul's teaching..
Jesus Christ has never told anyone to Ignore Paul's teaching and focus on Him.

There are many Jesus today but the one who is from Nazareth has no business with people of other nations {Matthew 10:6; 15:24} that's why he chose Paul to connect people of other nations to himself {Act 9:15} therefore anyone who hears voices from the spirit realm telling him or her to ignore Paul's letters recorded in the Bible may be saying the truth but the voice is not from Jesus of Nazareth {Revelations 16:14} surely the spirit will support them with supernatural gifts claiming Jesus is his name but the real Jesus will disown them! Matthew 7:21-23

Solajinspiratio:
Your vital decision will determine where you will spend your endless eternity after physical death on planet Earth. Heaven is real. Hell is real. Surely, eternal glorious Heaven is the best choice for everybody.

It's misconception that's making most people think of heaven as a better choice because they don't even know what will happen there but since they thought the earth is finished they want another planet out of anxiety.

Only spirit creatures live in heaven so if you're a man or woman forget about marriage there because there is nothing like gender they're all the same! Luke 20:34-36

The food and drinks they eat there totally differs from what we have here so those going there will have to spend all eternity with Jesus who will continue to teach them how to live as spirit beings. 1Thessalonians 4:17

They will see God face to face since they're no longer humans but spirit beings!


But those that will inherit the earth have what God promised from the beginning of creation. Matthew 25:34
They will build houses to the best of their taste {Isaiah 65:21} they will no longer get sick {Isaiah 33:24} they will not grow old again {Job 33:25} they will never die again {Isaiah 65:22-23} they will live forever as youths {Psalms 37:29} no evildoer will be here to cause any trouble on planet earth {Psalms 37:9-11} they will ger married to the man of woman of their choice in Paradise as their former marriage has been dissolved at death so they will bear obedient and peace loving children! Isaiah 65:23

The first set of humans to be resurrection are those that will follow Jesus to heaven the second resurrection belongs to those that will live forever on planet earth! Revelation 20:1-6

Those going to heaven will no longer have any problems with Satan's release from the abyss but those living on earth will still face the final test as they have to prove that they're on God's side for them to be ushered into everlasting life in Paradise!

Solajinspiratio:
We can’t make Heaven by our personal efforts or self-righteousness. We can only make Heaven by the great mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ.

You didn't understand my post!

God never created for humans to go to heaven {Psalms 115:16} it's spirits that live there not humans {Luke 20:34-36} so from the beginning of creation until Jesus walked the earth all faithful servants of God were promised a resurrection on planet earth where Paradise will be established. Job 14:13-15; Psalms 37:29; Matthew 5:5

Jerusalem was the proposed center for the Kingdom of God that's where Christ and his corulers supposed to stay and rule the earth {Isaiah 2:3} but because the city has been polluted with the killing of God's faithful servants that's why Jesus said Jerusalem has been condemned. Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38

His followers were confused when they heard him so he told them not to worry about the place they will stay to rule with him because he is going to prepare another place where they will stay with him and rule over the earth. John 14:1-3

That's what brought about some humans going to heaven, God never promised humans heaven from the beginning!

At least he is Apostle so "don't judge" as most of you often say instead of making sure of the group that's practicing Christianity!

Dream is registered thoughts in the brain!

Surely Paul is now in heaven as a born again Christian but as for Abraham, David and Elijah they have nothing to do with going to heaven because they all died without the invitation that is what Jesus meant when he said:

"Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is" Matthew 11:11

Abraham, David and Elijah were born of women and they died though as faithful servants of God but they never received the Visa given to Born Again Christians which qualifies them for citizenship in heaven {Act 2:3-4} John the baptist has died too before this event that's why he is not among those going to heaven he is greater than all those born before his time because he is the first human to publicly recognize and present Jesus as Christ the saviour {John 1:29, 36} the same assignment given to all those believing in Jesus {Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8} secondly he prepared the way for the Christ by preaching to the Jews appealing to them to repent before the Christ begin his ministry {Matthew 3:1-6} thirdly he is the same person who baptized Christ Jesus in the Jordan river, saw God's Holy Spirit landed on Jesus' head and heard God's own voice confirming that Jesus is Christ the saviour! Matthew 3:13-17

All these made him the greatest of all servants of God ever lived before his time but then he never lived to preach and practice what Jesus taught which qualifies those who did to gain the access to the baptism of the spirit.

So don't get it wrong none of those who lived before John the baptist qualifies for heaven but they will surely be resurrected as citizens of God's Kingdom on planet earth! Matthew 5:5 compare to Psalms 37:9-11, 29

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

fawaz050:
certain changes have been announced as a response to their heavy loss of Memberships and loss in Court cases.

.{ سُنَّةَ ٱللَّهِ فِی ٱلَّذِینَ خَلَوۡا۟ مِن قَبۡلُۖ وَلَن تَجِدَ لِسُنَّةِ ٱللَّهِ تَبۡدِیلࣰا }
[Surah Al-Aḥzāb: 62]
[This is] the established way of Allāh with those who passed on before; and you will not find in the way of Allāh any change.
Alhamdulilah li nihmatil Islam

The changes are signs of fulfillment in God's work. In the garden of Eden God gave His own children just one rule but after their rebellion the trust He had in them is no longer there as they chose to rebel against His authority.
That's what led to countless dos and donts in the law given to the Israelites through Moses.
When Jesus walked the earth he taught a lot of lessons that shows how kind and merciful the true God is then he made it clear that all the laws ever known in the commandments hangs on just two laws which is love for God and for neighbours but then how do we love God and neighbours? So he established a movement in the first century the Jews in Judea called them "THE WAY" {Act 9:2; 19:9} because their leader called himself "THE WAY" John 14:6
Later in Antioch another group of unbelieving Jews began calling them "CHRISTIANS" {Act 11:26} as they're preaching and teaching about Jesus of Nazareth claiming that he is the Christ. Act 2:36

The organization was established by God to gather all faithful, obedient, loyal and humble people throughout the earth so after getting people with these four qualities in all the countries of the world there is no further need of unwarranted restrictions the crowd of people fulfilling what God promised in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 has surfaced. Now they can relate globally as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers without strict rules they've been tested and trusted as loyal, humble, faithful and obedient ones among mankind just as Zephaniah prophesied:

Gather together, yes, gather yourselves, O nation that feels no shame. Before the decree takes effect, Before the day passes by like chaff, Before the burning anger of Jehovah comes upon you, Before the day of Jehovah’s anger comes upon you, Seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth, Who observe his righteous decrees. Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably you will be concealed on the day of Jehovah’s anger. Zephaniah 2:1-3

Highlighted is the point of emphasis even those claiming they are religious can testify to the fact that members of Jehovah's Witnesses are meek and righteous as they can't present any group of worshipers performing better than this organization of humble, loyal, faithful and obedient individuals from different countries throughout the earth! Zephaniah 3:9

Emusan:
Damage control!

Medicine after death....

The key issues is that you later succumbed to the fact that what they did was an act of GENEROSITY instead of the heretic teachings.

Bury your empty head in shame.

Oya practice it in your church nah àbí na only Jehovah's Witnesses must practice what Jesus taught his disciples?

Steep:
Hope you know Almighty God is also God's name? God introduce himself as Almighty God to Abraham not Jehovah. Did God tell you to made known the name for Jehovah?
surely you know better than Jesus.
Surely you know better than Phillip and the apostles.

God Almighty is not a name but TITLE it's like saying "Headteacher"

Steep:
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 4:18 And they called them, and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus.
Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
that means Jesus is Jehovah, because the Lord in the new testament is actually the Lord Jesus.
Acts 9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

This is what happened among the Jews who knew the name of the God JEHOVAH and also knew the works of God's Holy Spirit so what is missing in their faith is the name of God's Son "Jesus" that's why they must be baptized in the name their leaders despised: JESUS!

Steep:
See how don't know anything, Jesus commissioned Paul to witness for his name.
Paul was actually referring to Jesus.
Romans 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
You have just exposed jw rotten teaching once again,
Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Peter was actually quoting this verse and using Lord instead of Jehovah mening Jesus is Jehovah.
Paul said both jews and gentiles who call upon the Lord would be saved.
The question is which name did they call?
1 Corinthians 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

Deluded Churchian if Jesus is Jehovah how come David in his Psalms said
"Jehovah said to my Lord sir at my right hand"

Psalms 110:1

Peter quoted this verse to tell his listeners that resurrected Jesus was ordered by Jehovah to sit at God's right hand in heaven! Act 2:3

So according to you Jesus was actually talking to himself to sit at his own right hand.

Even when Stephen gazed into the sky he saw Jesus at God's right hand.

Ọmọ you're a professional professor of pastoral knowledge.

Twaile!

Emusan:
The evidence is here on who is agitating.
Now the lying liar has agreed that it's a GENEROUS ACT
Provide your evidence that it was stopped after the death of Ananias and Sapphiras.
Delusion!
It was stated clearly that the couple died FOR LYING against God's Holy Spirit like watchtower and you are doing today not because they share money.
So, it was never EVIL and of flesh.
Just provide where watchtower taught this your heretic teachings.
Is that hard for you to do?

OK it must come from Watchtower.

Chai faithless miscreants and their life!

If it's from Watchtower they will object but now that i'm showing him from the scriptures he wants it to come from Watchtower.

If they didn't stop how come no religion is practicing it today among all those claiming Christians?

Àbí it continue yet no religion is practicing it today except Jehovah's Witnesses who don't share money at our meetings?

Emusan:
Lies upon lies
Well your organisation says their acts is generous and I'll only take you serious if you produce where watchtower taught this your heretic teaching. The same God's Holy Spirit who told you that I'm using three different moniker on Nairaland
Always lying in the name of God's Holy Spirit.

Your agitation means nothing to me if you're asking a thought provoking question i will teach you what you should know.

Did they sell their properties?
YES!
Did they contribute to assist themselves?
YES!
Was it a generous act on the part of donors?
YES!

So why did they stop it after the death of Annanias and Saphiras?

Because they're not supposed to share money rather it's what they needed for the ministry that should go round in order for everyone to participate joyfully in the work Jesus assigned to them!

Emusan:
When was that stop and who was sharing thing at the meeting?

In the first century immediately after the death of Annanias and Saphiras they stopped it then in our time God's Holy Spirit directed us to do the right thing which is donating just as they donated but this time around it's what we need for the ministry that is shared equally not money unlike the mistake they made back then.
Imagine if it was things needed for the ministry that was shared back then do you think the couple will long for it especially when they knew it won't make them richer materially?
But let's say you know any group today where you can just take 20k to their meetings and return with 200k will you ever miss such a gathering?
Even if they're lying about God most people will attend for the money involved.
That's what they got wrong which has now been corrected due to NEW LIGHT!

ChristianFreedo:
Like which one? I worshiped nothing, I bow down to nothing or pray to nothing (except you will consider 0 as nothing, in that case 0 becomes a an object of worship)

No wonder the guy is an atheist so that what i should take seriously shey?

Tufiakwa!

ChristianFreedo:
Like which one? I worshiped nothing, I bow down to nothing or pray to nothing (except you will consider 0 as nothing, in that case 0 becomes a an object of worship)

Atheist!

Steep:
But we Christians don't see it as a big deal. Call Jesus, yeshua or lesus, or Jesu, it does not mean.
The only name given for men to be saved is Jesus not Jehovah or yahweh.

You don't get it.

We also don't care whether you call JEHOVAH or YAHWEH what matters is that the Almighty God has a unique name JEHOVAH and that name must be made known! John 17:6,26

As for the name Jesus it's not calling it that will save anyone rather it's doing the will of his father JEHOVAH {Matthew 7:21-23} so if you're calling Jesus' name but failed to know what he said about the importance of the saviour who saved him then you've derailed.

This is what God's word said:

“everyone who calls on the name of JEHOVAH will be saved.” Joel 2:32

That's what Paul quoted for his Christian brothers! Romans 10:13

So to be saved we must call on the name of JEHOVAH and doing exactly what His Son asked us to do {Matthew 17:5} and making sure what we do in service to God is backed by the Spirit of God which is LOVE. John 13:34-35 compare to 1John 4:8

That's what in the name of the father and the son and the Holy Spirit means! Matthew 28:19

Emusan:
So, how can you now claiming you're doing what Jesus never taught?

Not sharing money at meetings!

Emusan:
That's it as your lies got exposed.

OK nah!

Emusan:
Nonsense and ingredients.
If you're serious you'd have refuted his claim in the first place instead of wishing him death.
Or even did a little background check by clicking his profile to know his 'last seen on Nairaland' but you're not that intelligent, so you don't know.
Wishing him death is the height of your sadistic nature.

OK nah!

https://www.nairaland.com/8038252/hellfire-heaven-under-earth

I wish to make a contribution on the above thread but somehow i'm disallowed however there's no afterlife except for humans who did what's pleasing to God and others who also tried their best but don't know the righteousness of God!

Emusan:
Blind man.
You didn't see where he tagged many Jws?
In case you don't know the moniker Jman05 is well known Jws that time and I think he deactivated his account about 1-2years ago.
Rubbish, we already know your intentions, you wish the OP dead stop spewing thrash.

Well if he's ready to chat on the topic i'm still very much around but not for you or talking to the air. It's cowardly throwing stones and later run into hiding expecting others to come and fight for you.
So if he's sure of what he typed MaxInDhouse is here!

Emusan:
That you are even more concern about the OP death is a serious issue.
Why do you wish the OP death?
Well the OP just reply @achorladey this morning Check HERE
So jws are now wishing those who exposed their false doctrine death.

Since 8 years ago and he couldn't engage the same JW who wants to reason with him?

Surely the spirit with wish the OP started the thread is dead otherwise the way he started there's nothing stopping him from engaging a member of the organization he accused if he's truly sure of what he typed 8 years ago!

Emusan:
Waoooo even wishing the OP is dead

Well the OP is still very much alive and doing great.

Meanwhile, why can't you refute what the OP said?

Until he or she quotes me i can't agree that life is still in him or her!

There is nothing like afterlife God only want humans who does good things to others which brings Him praise to continue living so in His word He promised to bring such ones back to life in the near future! John 5:28-29; Act 24:15

Busybrain2233:
Chaiii🤣

The understanding of God's word often brings laughter and joy to the receiver.
Enjoy it while it lasts!

The original Hebrew writing doesn't include the alphabet "J" which means the name Jesus is inappropriate.

Do you agree?

Steep:
unique name that was from people you claim worship doghead?
Where in the bible did Jesus personally mention God's unique name?

“The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, JEHOVAH our God is one JEHOVAH" Mark 12:29

Here Jesus quoted Deuteronomy 6:4

“Listen, O Israel: JEHOVAH our God is one JEHOVAH"

If that name doesn't appear in your own copy of the Bible it simply means the translators have replaced God's name with the title "THE LORD"

Steep:
shame on you, hypocrite.

In other words your God doesn't have a unique name shey?

Jesus likens religions to TREES each religion has its roots and the one who planted it, God is the one who planted pure worship so when He established the law covenant with the nation of Israel He told them that that's not what will bring salvation rather another prophet will be the mediator of the covenant that will bring salvation! Deuteronomy 18:18-19

This means the Mosaic laws will eventually lead to another religion that the Israelites must welcome that's why Jesus likens himself to a TREE planted by GOD {John 15:1} and his apostles are the branches of this {John 15:5} just as each TREE have GIFTS and a unique FRUIT this figurative TREE will do the same.

So what are the GIFTS in this figurative TREE?
Remember that TREES in the forest may have similar GIFTS: tall, thick, fragrance, strong root, medicinal leaves and so on all these are gifts in trees and many trees have similar GIFTS but what about the FRUIT?
Well each tree has its unique FRUIT that no other TREE can produce.

That's why God's word said:


But the FRUIT of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, ‭‭gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. ‭‭Galatians 5:22-23

So the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit has nine unique qualities that will help you to IDENTIFY the true religion just as Jesus said {Matthew 7:16-18} you can ask yourself which religion do people know globally that has these qualities mention above?

Well i was a Muslim and from far away i could see only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION.

That's why they are the one and only group still active in preaching zealously and teaching industriously throughout the earth as if their existence depends on it just as the first century Christians did! Act 1:8

I will mention just one of the nine qualities:

LOVE! Jesus said:


“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”‭‭ John 13:34-35

Of all the religions claiming they know the God of Abraham today the one and only group that have used the Bible to settle all their racial disparities peacefully among themselves, diverted their resources into production of food and information materials, stopped supporting military services and vowed never to raise weapons against their neighbours is Jehovah's Witnesses! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So even though most people don't believe in the existence of God but with what the Bible foretells and how Jehovah's Witnesses are perfectly fulfilling it something is really really strange!

Busybrain2233:
The problem with you JW folks Is that you think you understand the Bible more than anyone else.

I asked a question above and you stylishly avoided it, I will ask again: is Matt7:7 a figurative or Literal passage?

Don't tell me what Jesus meant in that passage, tell me what he said explicitly.

Your questions below, won't help in answering my question.

Guy Jesus uses lots of idioms in his teachings that his disciples have to depend on God's Holy Spirit to grasp the meaning! Matthew 13:13, 34


“Keep on asking, and it will be given you; keep on seeking, and you will find; keep on knocking, and it will be opened to you; for everyone asking receives, and everyone seeking finds, and to everyone knocking, it will be opened. Indeed, which one of you, if his son asks for bread, will hand him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, he will not hand him a serpent, will he? Therefore, if you, although being wicked, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more so will your Father who is in the heavens give good things to those asking him" Matthew 7:7-11

So I say to you, keep on asking, and it will be given you; keep on seeking, and you will find; keep on knocking, and it will be opened to you. For everyone asking receives, and everyone seeking finds, and to everyone knocking, it will be opened. Indeed, which father among you, if his son asks for a fish, will hand him a serpent instead of a fish? Or if he also asks for an egg, will hand him a scorpion? Therefore, if you, although being wicked, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more so will the Father in heaven give HOLY SPIRIT to those asking him!” Luke 11:9-13

I love the highlighted in your comment now consider the two accounts and tell me what Jesus is talking about is it the spirit to do the preaching and teaching work or miracles? Act 4:29-31

Did the miracles later stopped happening in their midst?
Paul answered "YES!"
Why?
Because the miracles is just an evidence that God is no longer in support of Judaism which the Jews practiced until Jesus established Christianity so after the congregation has been firmly established such supernatural gifts ceased among them! 1Corinthians 13:8-10

So what is the work of Holy Spirit that Jesus taught them to ask, seek and knock for?

"But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you." John 14:26

The work of the spirit is in two ways:
GIFTS
FRUIT
The GIFTS according to God's word will not last long because it's work is temporary until the Bible is complete but the FRUIT will continue that's why Jesus said:
"By their FRUIT you will know them" Matthew 7:16-18

NLSOFTWorld:
How about the killing across West Africa, yes all these killings by humans are bad, but we see, watch or hear them everyday
sad to say, but such is life

Any form of killing is a result of POLITICS!

The first thing that makes one, two or more individuals carry weapons in support of what one man decides is POLITICS.
So if we all agree that politics is evil then there will be no more killing as one who kills will no longer have anyone to back him or her but as long as someone carries weapon to support another then killings will continue and those involved will justify it.

Busybrain2233:
See what Matthew Chapter 7 says:

7“Ask, and you will receive; seek, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you. 8For everyone who asks will receive, and anyone who seeks will find, and the door will be opened to those who knock. 9Would any of you who are fathers give your son a stone when he asks for bread? 10Or would you give him a snake when he asks for a fish? 11Bad as you are, you know how to give good things to your children. How much more, then, will your Father in heaven give good things to those who ask him!

So where did you get this your analogy from

From the ACTS OF APOSTLES!

Remember they're the ones who received the information first hand so if you want to apply it then think about those who heard Jesus first hand and how they applied it.

What exactly did they ask for as a group?
Did they ever got sick?
Did they always cure sicknesses miraculously among themselves?

That's how to figure out what their teacher had in mind not the interpretation of your former pastors which never worked for you nor found working in Bible times!

NLSOFTWorld:
What we assume to be truthful today, may tmrw not still be truthful. So why should i be running away from the truth? Friend

The absolute truth about killing is what God revealed in the Bible book of Genesis 2:17 the right to set standard for right and wrong does not belong to humans so any attempts by humans to venture into it will bring about killings.

That's the truth that has not changed, can not change and will never ever change.

If Putin and Zelensky aren't dragging issues on whose right to RULE over the same territory there can never be any reason for killing!