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Democracy is all there is!
Soon the whole world will welcome politics as a religion and forget whatever religion they've been practicing in the past (666)
By then no law will be allowed to stand against DEMOCRACY the government of the people by the people and for the people, remember that gays and lesbians are also members of the human society so if the world truly wants to practice democracy for real then everyone no matter the lifestyle they choose so far they live and let live they must be welcome as bonafide members of the society.

That's where the world is heading!

Aemmyjah:
I have been really trying to understand why God chose to answer Job using creation and what he made.

Imagine a landlord who has a gigantic estate he let it out to tenants and the first set of tenants proved to be destructive while he was contemplating a way to send those destructive tenants out of his estate he discovered a good tenant who is making him happy by doing everything within his power to keep his own apartment and surrounding in order then the local government staffs came troubling the occupants because the estate is stinking due to the negligence of most tenants. So the good tenant decided to take his landlord to court with the feeling that his landlord deliberately look away while the local government staffs are giving them trouble in the house including him who has been such an outstanding and reputable tenant.

What do you think the landlord should do?

Well the landlord didn't get annoyed with his good tenant instead he began telling him how he started the foundation of the house, built it and put everything in place for the benefit of whoever finds himself in his estate.

Now to answer your question:

The landlord is doing so to make the troubled tenant understand that for him to have set all these things in place that means he has a good prospect for anyone who finds himself in his estate so he wouldn't just sit back and watch all his effort waste away just like that.

So God used His response to tell Job that whatever virtue Job has it can't be compared to the prospect God had in mind for the earth and it's inhabitants!

Expanse2020:
Ok na there he copy the scope to mislead his sheeps 🐏🐑🐑🐑🐑
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
But he need holy spirit to understand what is Islam say by that not just conclusions like that 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

So if a spirit that's holy is what everyone needs to understand all the religions around them i suggest there's no need arguing with anyone over whatever they believe. Yours need that spirit and all others also need it therefore with this spirit on all sides each religion is perfect on it's own!

grandstar:
Society advises us to ignore and avoid apostates.

Thanks so much!

grandstar:
You're wasting your time correcting many of these people. The explanation given in the video is detailed and comprehensive enough If you listen with an open mind.

With people like you then there's no need responding to apostates!

The truth is that most Muslims goes blind and their brains blurred at the mention of their prophet. So politicians use the name of their prophet to create enmity between them and opponents.

Expanse2020:
Dem no see wetin happen in 9ja again na even inspiration de come from now🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And some 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑 don believe like that

Islam also say that there will be tornents after death nah!

OLAADEGBU:
You lied when you said you believe in going to heaven. No liar when inherit the kingdom of heaven.

Now you're confused!

Because you asked and i answered you so let's go back to TB Joshua's case.
All his followers believe they're Born Again and they are also going to heaven.
So just as they will also say you're not eligible for heaven as a liar the same you're saying that makes the whole thing really really funny!

OLAADEGBU:
Get an afterlife!

God's Kingdom in Paradise that's the afterlife Jesus promised! Luke 23:43

Whoever is SINCERELY CONCERNED with what his or her neighbour believes is not a real atheist because atheist don't believe neither do they care what others have in mind as long as everyone is obedient to the force using weapons to give orders.
Whatever makes you feel concerned about the other person in the absence of force or fitness regarding survival then you're not a real atheist!

OLAADEGBU:
I dare you to prove me wrong?

You asked a question which you've been programmed to always ask without knowing the credentials to ascertain now you're expecting me to teach you when you won't even agree with the truth.
Funny Deeperlifer.
Ọmọ i am a born again Christian just as all others do claim and i am going to heaven just as all others do claim. It's your own duty now to show the scriptural requirements to be used for screening since you're the one who is now in doubt!

IAMBOSS1990:
I follow your write-ups Sir.

You and OLAADEGBU. I really do think you mean to serve God in truth and spirit. However, I have a few questions about the approach of both of you to this T.B Joshua issue.

If you don't mind sparing a little of your time to educate me or rather enlighten me on certain questions that I have, I will be eternally grateful. Thank you in anticipation of your response.


My first question is:

Is it possible that you are completely wrong on who T.B Joshua is?

I would love scriptural references in your answers Sir. Thank you and God bless.

They're all mimicking what their pastors said about the man if we're to use the scriptures all their pastors are on the same page with TB Joshua!

OLAADEGBU:
You don't have to say that but I can read between the lines.

So you're the one to determine the response not me again shey?

sagenaija:
The Scripture clearly show all that God wants his people to know about the future.

So you agree that God wants His people to know their future!

Expanse2020:
You are Jehovah witnesses..you don't believe Jesus is a God but was written and claimed by other group that Jesus is a God because it was written by some folks that they didn't meet JESUS self. And that is what cause misguided in Christianity

That's why i said you don't know what it means to be a Christian!

Moses was also a God because the Almighty God made Moses like a God in his time {Exodus 7:1} and God promised the Israelites that He will send another prophet like Moses to them from among their brothers who will also act as God's representative in their midst with lots of miraculous works the same way Moses did {Deuteronomy 18:18} so Almighty God actually sent two prophets like Gods to the Israelites namely Moses and Jesus that's what Jesus' disciples believe:

Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.Acts 3:19-22

So ask yourself now was Jesus the Almighty God or a prophet like Moses sent to the Jews?

What did the first century Jewish Christians believe about Jesus?

That's why i told you:
"there are different religions all claiming Christians whereas they are not Christians"

If some groups begin shouting Muhammad's name up and down today but failed to have the same line of thought with his sixth century followers will you agree that such groups are Muslims for real?

According to God's word Jesus will be sent to TEACH the Israelites in the name of their God {Deuteronomy 18:19} and that's exactly what he did! John 17:6, 26

His disciples believe that God Almighty raised Jesus from the dead! Act 2:32; Hebrews 5:7

So who are the real Christians today?
Is it misinformed religionists or well informed disciples who are teaching exactly what God's word said? Matthew 28:19-20

Expanse2020:
But if the God words are mixed with men word (and men are born with lie and deception in Nation) how did you goin to differentiate between the two

I already answered but as usual Muslims don't calm down in such matters.

Here is the answer again:

If you purposely order your secretary type and you heard that it has been altered will you just start attacking those accused or wait for the purpose for which the document was typed?

So what is the purpose for which God inspired the book?
It's when such purpose is not met that you can start thinking of how to right the wrong but if the purpose is met you have no business with those who altered their own copies do you?

Expanse2020:
Like asking me to throw Gold up and be looking for metal no way man.

If you want me to agree with terms that makes someone a Muslim then you must agree with terms that makes one a Christian.

Are you ready to know what quantify someone to be a true Christian?

Expanse2020:
Original version contain 80 - 88 books some where removed don't cover it...
A word of God was written by man and change to thier suites..,
What did you want to said to the new testament that some verses are also removed now adays

God's word could only be identified not by the swords of those adhering to it but how they are able to fulfill the purpose for which God inspired the writers.

So instead of arguing over what imperfect humans have done with their own copies of the Bible why not ask for the purpose of the Author?

If the purpose is met then know that there is no addition or subtraction made for the Author knows exactly why He inspired the writers!

Expanse2020:
That is how must of you claimed you are once a Muslim before
but a Muslim who didn't know anything about his religion is not a Muslim
Who can't recite at least some 10 Surat from a single juzu is not a Muslim
That was a Muslim because his parent give him a name of Muslim but not etiquette and teaching of Islam not dim to be called Muslim
Overall ISLAM DIDN'T TAKE YOU AWAY FROM YEHESUA (PBUH) rather it make you know more about Him..

I love this!

So there are criteria one must meet before he or she could be truly called a Muslim, right?

Now do the same with Christianity and figure out who are true Christians!

Expanse2020:
A source said bible is 88 verses another said 80 verses but it had reduced to 66 verses A Mighty God book was removed from by a man because it doesn't suites their taste and some claim they can't verify the source of their stories.

Out of 66 verses they have now the new testament they have some verses are lost too (up to 20 verse from word of God)

That what Quran siad that they had tampered with there own hand..
But they will said it's a lie and they no it's true

It was written by 40 men all were Israelites.
It contains 66 books.
39 were written in Hebrew and Aramaic.
27 were written in Greek.
In total it has 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses.

Expanse2020:
Ok I just de reason with you now
Which group is authentic among the group, if one to study the true God

Who is the man called CHRIST?

Can you just take a copy of the Bible and try to read only chapters 5-7 where the major preaching of the man's ministry was recorded and fish out which of all the groups claiming Christians is practicing what this man said there?

I was once a Muslim and through a thorough study of those three chapters i figured out the group practicing Christianity for real!

Roycemadeit:
That's is because it's a political tool. And you don't realise it yet?

Of course many do say this but please tell me what are other books been used for if the book supposedly fabricated by a small country like Israel is used to dominate the entire world while nations like Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and England has writers and intelligent men who hailed from their midst couldn't come up with such a powerful tool?

Roycemadeit:
There's no evidence to show Abraham ever existed, nor of Noah, Solomon, David. As in none. That's why y'all are Believers

Now is the time to know the truth!

Do you believe in the existence of God at all?

Let's start from there!

Roycemadeit:
Kindly Give Two Proofs.

There is no God whose worshiper are going to people's homes in other to cohabit peacefully with their neighbours, that's what any God who is the true Creator supposed to do uniting all His creatures as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4


There is no God on this planet whose stories are known globally through a book that could be found in all the corners of the earth, in fact if someone say bestseller the Bible is far much more. billions of copies has been printed and millions are sold monthly. Is that not what the Creator of this planet should do? Isaiah 11:9

Roycemadeit:
The God of Abraham (Abraham considered the first Jew) has roots in diverse cultural influences. Abraham hailed from the land of Ur, but it's noteworthy that Ur emerged long after the completion of Egypt's pyramids, in Egypt's 18th dynastic period. This historical context shows that cultural and religious elements associated with Abraham's God could have been influenced by pre-existing beliefs and practices from the regions and periods that predated Ur.

Those telling you these what living evidence do they have apart from their counter stories?

Roycemadeit:
Across diverse religions, the assertion of exclusivity regarding their respective deities prevails—a belief system often shaped by factors such as cultural conditioning, geographical location, or historical conquests. The adherence to a specific faith, like Christianity, can be attributed to a complex interplay of these influences.

Examining Christianity, criticism arises around its theological concepts. The idea of a God finding pleasure in the smell of burnt animals, seeking appeasement through animal and human sacrifice, and administering generational punishment for ancestral transgressions should spark contemplation. A particularly intricate facet is the notion that this deity is not only aware of but also engages in actions deemed morally objectionable.

This introspection prompts questions about the attributes of a true creator. The juxtaposition of a benevolent creator and the depiction of a deity allowing suffering and even orchestrating conflicts among creations challenges the conventional understanding that the God of Abraham is true. The exploration of these complexities underscores the subjective nature of religious beliefs and the intricate relationship between faith, cultural context, and theological interpretations.

Why not pick up with questions on how wrong the God of Abraham handled any case at all then present a better or more virtuous way to handle such a case?

The God of Abraham wasn't discovered by the worshipers unlike all other gods Jehovah introduced Himself to Abraham while the man and his ancestors were worshiping DEMONS! Joshua 24:2

After centuries that Israelites were dominated by Egyptians this God journeyed there with two feeble octogenarians to free His people from the world's most powerful king! Exodus 5:1

This God did not just want worshiper without a purpose He made it clear to them that He wants the whole world to worship Him as the Creator and Israelites to serve as His priests! Exodus 19:5

This God destroyed all the nations on the land He chose for His name to be declared and warned the Israelites that He will do the same to them! Deuteronomy 18:19

All these are stories today!

So what living proof do we have today that the God of Abraham is the one and only true God?

Are you willing to know?

Roycemadeit:
Creation stories vary among cultures due to the absence of a definitive explanation for the origin of things. Consequently, cultures attribute everything to deities, weaving religious beliefs and mythology into their narratives as a means to interpret their reality.

What is the living proof that what those deities or their worshipers are saying is true?

I am asking because there is 1,001 proof that the God of Abraham is the one and only true God!

Expanse2020:
You guys are now getting it by digging more into Christianity and bible

The Bible is the only book inspired by the true God all other books are fabrications from the fallen angels!

When talking about Christianity most of you are like a village man who doesn't identify the dollar but after seeing lots of fake dollars this villager concluded that dollar is worthless yet that's the one and only currency globally recognized.

Christianity has just one true group but lots of false religions all claiming Christians. For instance one hilarious religion is Islam this one can't stand on its own without attaching itself to the Bible yet this religion wants to claim that the Bible is worthless but ask the adherents questions having to do with Islam they can't do without quoting the Bible to authenticate their religion!

Roycemadeit:
The assertion that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob created the world lacks foundation,

What did your own people say about creation and the part their Gods played?

It's not about Christians but politics at play so if they think they're fighting or killing Christians then they're surely gullible individuals.
If we are to use our brains there is no religion that's targeting those that doesn't share their beliefs it's another form of deceit by politicians using gullible individuals to achieve their goals!

It's politicians that are using terrorism to keep others under their control not religionists.

This is the secret!
In the case where the politician knows he doesn't have the support of the majority they gather whatever they can find to fight back that's where brainwashed religionists comes into view. If you travel to places where only the religion that's fighting are in their government you will discover that all the rules they used to brainwash gullible ones into fighting their opponents will start to vanish little by little.
Today if someone should drink alcoholic drink publicly in some part of Nigeria such a person may be attacked but then Saudi Arabia where Islam started has approved alcoholic beverages in their society.
So who is fooling who?