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CJStarz:
Wow! Indeed, you have opened my eyes the more. Thank you sooooo much for the rich insight. I would read up those chapters. Of a truth,God is not against polygamy.

The Bible God gave laws to the Israelites but to those worshiping Him today it's whatever you feel like doing that will become a snare to you.
So neither is He condemning Polygamy or Polyandry:

Let the one who is unrighteous continue in unrighteousness, and let the filthy one continue in his filth; but let the righteous one continue in righteousness, and let the holy one continue in holiness. “‘Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to repay each one according to his work. Revelations 22:11-12

If you marry more wives as a man or marry more husbands as a woman it's whatever comes out of it that will determine if you worth living or a return to none existence all those who lived as polygamists have seen the troubles that resulted from it so God is only saying:

“Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.” Revelations 21:3-4

The highlighted will determine what each person deserves, if what you did now after Jesus has come is causing tears, mourning, outcry or pain to others then you already know where you belong!

jaephoenix:
Please how many atheists have made destructive weapons?

Whoever is producing destructive weapons today after Jesus of Nazareth has intelligently explained how we can make peace reign without the use of weapons to gain God's approval is an atheist!

Workch:
Science involves disciplines that use the scientific method to determine the most probable explanation for what we observe in the physical universe, and this method involves observation of the available evidence, experimentation, presenting results, peer review, further observation and experimentation, etc. Scientists examine the evidence before arriving at a conclusion. If new evidence is presented, scientists consider it and revise their views if warranted.

Thomas H. Huxley, who coined the term agnostic, was a scientist. He found it puzzling that many people spoke with certainty about things which could not be verified by any known methodology (this is what atheists and theists do) . Huxley believed that to claim to have "knowledge" (in Greek, gnosis) that a belief or claim is true or lie, one must have verifiable evidence to support to disprove the claim. To Huxley, to present a claim as certain without evidence was ethically wrong and intellectually dishonest. He stated that claims of certainty in any matter, whether science or religion, should be backed by evidence, and proposed the agnostic method to examine claims based on evidence. If there was no justifiable evidence, one was "without knowledge" of the certainty of the claim or belief, or agnostic. He called practice of using such a method agnosticism

Agnosticism is not about belief, it is about using a method to verify the probability that a claim is true or factual by examining the evidence. A person is free to believe or not believe the claim, and may choose to believe a claim without evidence, based on philosophical reasons or personal preference.

So, according to Huxley's definition of agnostic and agnosticism, those who practice the scientific method are indeed agnostic in the sense that they use a method to examine the evidence for a claim before determining the probability that the claim is true or factual.

In Huxley's words:
“Agnosticism is not a… creed of any kind, but the validity of a principle, which is as much ethical as intellectual. This principle may be stated in various ways, but they all amount to this: it is wrong for a man to say that he is certain of the objective truth of any proposition unless he can produce evidence which logically justifies that certainty.”
T. H. Huxley. Essays, Volume V, IX

LordReed KnownUnknown

Later you will say you're using your own sense, Shey Thomas Henry Huxley be your Papa or black man like you?

Well people agreed with the idea that gravity and black holes exists not because they can see any of these things but due to the reaction of objects close to them so the true God also proved He is the Creator by telling us how the languages began through the disobedience of man to move towards all the corners of the earth surely that's arguable because nobody today witnessed that event but then He goes on to say He will send out His active force so that people from different geographical locations on this planet will come together and form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} and they will agree to doing things in common as if they're speaking the same language {Zephaniah 3:9} at the same time all others will be confused due to their disobedience and the result will be killing themselves throughout the earth! Revelations 6:3-4

So the true God has proved Himself whether you agree or not!

oteneaaron:
Such a shame. 🤕🤕
Read carefully and stop embrassing yourself.
The pedophile, Jesse Hills is an active member of your organization. He used to live in Berks County but now lives in Georgia.

Ọmọ Judas Iscariot is an APOSTLE yet he lost it that doesn't make God's organization evil o!

correctguy101:
Ah..
Which are they now telling me about in November?
Remember I mentioned I went to one last time? The man says there's another in November...

That's our convention o!

Aemmyjah:
What about those that became Christian after Jesus ascension?
Did they see Jesus?
Did you see Jesus
De play

He will never agree that the word REVEAL does not necessarily mean seeing something vividly so no amount of explanation can help him since he feels Jesus to make himself visible to him there's no need waisting my precious time with him, let him go and make use of his Jesus!

Many thought God knew beforehand that they will eat of the forbidden fruit before planting it right in the garden but then let's consider what the adjective "HOLY" means.

HOLY means PURITY of highest order so the thought of evil things has no place in the heart of someone who is HOLY therefore God gave them the best with a warning something that could lead them into a big trouble is inside the garden.
So if Eve could vividly remember what God told them (word for word) then the blame goes to the couple not God. God never harbour evil thoughts neither does He tempt anyone with evil things! James 1:13

oteneaaron:
BREAKING NEWS!
GUILTY: FORMER BERKS COUNTY JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES MEMBER ADMITS TO SEXUALLY ASSAULTING CHILDREN DECADES AGO

HARRISBURG – Attorney General Michelle Henry announced that the first of more than a dozen men charged with child sexual assault crimes while they were members of Jehovah’s Witnesses congregations has pleaded guilty.

So in a nutshell they're now APOSTATES shey?

Well done:
Now the chief priests and the entire Sanʹhe·drin were looking for false testimony against Jesus in order to put him to death. But they found none, although many false witnesses came forward. Later two came forward and said: “This man said, ‘I am able to throw down the temple of God and build it up in three days.’” Matthew 26:59-61

Of course all the false Witnesses were former disciples nah {John 6:66} who are now ready to do whatever it takes to accuse Jesus.

Ọmọ if you catch anyone molesting your child cut of their heads or better still their abuna but thinking false stories will bring a cause to those whom God has blessed, nah lie o!

preciousee17:
Haha! You think JW knows it all...
Apart from the fact that there are several different understandings to one thing, I said that Lust of the Flesh talks about s€x too and food and anything you want to have for yourself.
The fruit of the tree was about food. I didn't say it was about s€x.

I'm not insisting the highlighted but one thing is sure: when talking about the understanding of the scriptures Jesus knows it all and so the group he's working with!
It's OK sha.

correctguy101:
High Priest MaxinDHouse.
How brutal...
When be your assembly date sef?

Ọmọ come and gone o it's convention we're salivating for now!

The other moniker has been banned now he's consistent with his real moniker no more hide and seek style.
Even though God's organization is ready to punish evildoers apostates aren't satisfied with the judicial system yet that is the one and only organization that has successfully erased use of weapons in hearts of adherents.
Abeg what exactly is leading humans to carrying weapons against themselves?
Is it not their own judicial system that has failed?
Glory be to the true God who is guiding His people to make peace reign among themselves. Isaiah 2:2-4

Aemmyjah:
He's desperate hearing his lords have disappointed him

Don't mind him i've given him a clue into what he claims he's PREACHING perhaps he'll borrow a leaf from the attitude of their leaders but the same thing is deeply rooted in their hearts: pride and self esteem!

Aemmyjah:
U mind am
They will claim Whitemen are leaving religion and they want to join the party
When I saw your comments too, I knew it won't be in Nigeria cos nothing reasonable can bring any atheists together even on online platforms like nairaland
Now, while he can't dispute that such atmosphere can exists in such a gathering, he just wants to calm himself that it won't take place in Africa

Ọmọ it's about two decades ago before i began taking Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses seriously again because i was already considering ATHEISM but from that very day i made a complete U-turn fully convinced that atheists are fools!

Aemmyjah:
Guidance can come in various forms/means
Could be direct
Could be indirect
Stop behaving like someone that does not want to use his thinking cap

He feels like seeing something right in front of him before believing (trusting) what he read in the Bible, is that not what the Israelites asked Aaron to do for them? Exodus 32:1
So instead of worship in spirit and truth {John 4:24} he feel Jesus must appear to him in person then instruct him not just agreeing to do what others are doing conscientiously after studying Jesus' words!

preciousee17:
Eve for instance was made to see that the forbidden fruit was good for food — Lust of the Flesh (you want to have it all, eat it/s€x)

The forbidden fruit has nothing to do with s€x as most interpreters say rather it symbolizes something else!

Fruit is food and food don't only keep us living but also satisfy us meaning it's pleasurable, to get a clue into what really happened study Jesus' ministry and temptation diligently you will notice that he is ever ready to do the will of his father whether he grasp what God had in mind or not because he trusted his father completely but Adam wasn't satisfied with just been in control of Animals he wanted to rule over mankind!

So let's go back to the instruction they both overruled:

“From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction but as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.” Genesis 2:16-17

The symbolic terms here are:
TREE
GARDEN
KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and BAD
EAT
According to Jesus TREES are likened to plans or motives of two or three persons but when others began participating observers will see the hidden motives of the two or three individuals that initiated it because imperfect humans will surely make what is hidden to become manifest when they are involved! Matthew 7:16-18
The GARDEN means there are other activities that's wholesome which people can participate and everyone will benefit maximally so there are many options.
The KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and BAD means to set STANDARDS. Jesus made us understand that whatever he says about dos and donts are all from his father and so he will not do anything contradicting his father's standard {John 5:30} but Adam wanted to be the one in control setting his own standard for other humans: POLITICS
The word EAT is a verb so it means swing into action Jesus said:
"my food is to do the will of the one who sent me and to finish his work" John 4:34
So EATING from Jesus' illustration there means doing something but instead of his own he was doing what pleases his father! John 8:28

Today 99.9999% of mankind are still eating the forbidden fruit (POLITICS) thinking human rule will bring benefits {Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9} but it's all a deceit from Satan the devil! Revelations 12:9 compare to 2Corinthians 4:4

God initiated s€x between the couple otherwise there is no pleasurable means of reproduction so it's not the forbidden fruit rather the fruit is POLITICS!

FRANCISTOWN:
There is nothing secretive about atheists gathering in the Europes. Give us the venue and the date at least.
Ha! You are nothing but a liar. Don't you have kids? Your kids should be ashamed of you.

FRANCISTOWN:
I deactivated my first and second account. I'm not here to drag who was here first.
King of Liars. Where and when did the meeting hold?

Baby atheist!

advocatejare:
I like the way you’re dissociating yourself with the founder of your cult, Russel the abuser, his lifestyle is not worth emulating. He failed in the simple task of keeping his home together
He went against the Christ’s teaching on divorce, he divorced his wife
He subjected his wife to mental torture.
He never followed Christ.
What is your sect’s stance on divorce today? Tell us MaxInDHouse do you also subject your wife to mental torture like your founder or you’re ashamed of his lifestyle and deeds?

Ó mà ṣeo!
Too much Qur'an citation has affected you now you're on default mode!
Well get better soon my guy perhaps we will continue our discussion then.

FRANCISTOWN:
What's the confidentiality in atheists conference? Do you think you are talking to a child or an unexposed dude? Lol! I'm still waiting. The venue, date, who hosted the meeting, 2 notable professors. Please give answers. Mr. Linux. King of Lies. You are not even ashamed of yourself. It was easy for you to call other christains fake because they are not members of JW but you who claimed to be a true christain are nothing but a joke and a bunch of many lies. True christian indeed 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Baby atheist!
Now i know you're new on this forum because i've mentioned it before and it's obvious you guys feel really pained when others know how stupid your professors are!

FRANCISTOWN:
MaxInDHouse , please treat as urgent

This is really funny because it's not the first time i mentioned it on this forum and an atheist almost commit suicide over the matter demanding i should tell him the venue date and so on even though i told him it was in Europe.
Ọmọ experience dey but since those people has blocked your reasoning there's no way we can help you!

FRANCISTOWN:
Great! Since it didn't happen in Africa. The reference will be online. Now, tell us the date, venue, who hosted the meeting and two notable professors who graced the meeting.
Until then, you are just a shameless liar with no self esteem.

Baby atheist!
So you're demanding confidential information shey?
Well no agent will divulge such i'm sorry!

FRANCISTOWN:
Your father is a real clown because you believe the instructions written in a book of fairytales

At least i can quote a DOCUMENT where the instruction could be read aloud!

Janosky:
Sifia pains kee U dia.

He wants USA to be like Russia where the man in charge is a madman.
When Putin started attacking God's people in 2017 many apostates were jubilating in fact i had many of them on Facebook from Canada and US saying they want the same to happen in America but now everyone can see that Putin just want the peace maker's group out of his way so he can send zombies to go killing and get killed. His own wife and children are safe somewhere but many Russians have lost their lives for Putin's ego.
Who are they that have died?
Ọmọ Jehovah's Witnesses no dey there o nah apostates and misinformed churchgoers so who is fooling who?

Ọ̀DẸ̀, why not calm down and learn?
Did i say it happened in Africa talkless Nigeria?

FRANCISTOWN:
I'll press on your matter this night.
You are a liar. A big one at that.
There had never been any known atheists' conference in Nigeria as opposed to other countries. Mention the date. The venue, who hosted the conference and two notable professors that attended. Ha! You are so shameless. Lying thru your teeth with utmost confidence and remorselessness. Who invited you to the gathering? Anyone with at least a primary level education shouldn't take you seriously. Which gathering of atheists' professors were you opportuned to be in?
Answer me now MaxInDHouse also known as king of lies

FRANCISTOWN:
Christians also can't allow people be at peace. They keep disturbing people with their stupid and silly evangelism. Until they are able to solve the problems of those non christains beliefs that keep dragging them into evangelism. Ọmọ christains have unsolved problems jhor. You are free to do your outreach. I'm free to do mine too. Live and let's live.

Who sent you?
Ọmọ you're a real clown because atheism never ask you to go for evangelism o!

FRANCISTOWN:
Did God sit you down to tell you or you quoted from The Book of fairies to amuse kids otherwise known as the Bibull?

Ọmọ it's happening today throughout the globe faithful people are coming together to fulfil that prophecy so if you think it's fairytale then you need to have a rethink because fairytales don't come true on a global scale!

FRANCISTOWN:
You are the one with a larger problem here

Ọmọ i'm doing my job as a Christian so chatting with people about faith in God is my hobby but you are here without any tangible reason just arguing aimlessly when you can't point to any source of guidance:

"Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit" Matthew 28:19

That's what makes my time here worthwhile!

Franzinni:
Don't you wonder how the devil was said to tempt Jesus with riches ? How do you temp someone with something they already have or something they have no use for... I have always wondered why? Unless the story is symbolic and not literal like we all take it to be. Becasue Jesus despite his powers didn't magically manifest wealth, even if not for himself what about his carpenter family ? If it was you I bet you would by you dad a Rolls-Royce. Anyway why is all I am asking?

Satan wasn't really talking about RICHES when he wanted to tempt Jesus because everything on this planet including Satan himself was created by Jesus so he owns it all as the one and only heir to all his father's belongings! Colossians 1:15-16

So what really makes Satan's offer something worthwhile?

God has arranged that Jesus will rule this planet for 1,000 years after which he must present the planet to his father {1 Corinthians 15:27-28} the way it was in the beginning when God declared saying "everything is PERFECT" Genesis 1:31

During that time millions of faithful people will have the best of life on this planet under Jesus' reign and forever but Satan knew that before Jesus could be given this prize he must fulfil the role of Christ which is serving as a servant by example and to redeem mankind by laying down his PERFECT human life as a ransom {Matthew 20:28} without fulfilling this task Jesus can't justify his right to be crowned as Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} who made it possible for peace reign among worshipers of God throughout the earth {Isaiah 2:2-4} if Jesus did not sacrifice his human life God can't justify pouring out His active force (Holy Spirit) on humans {Joel 2:28} which will help trained ones to receive God's spirit and become Born Again {John 3:5-6} this are the people that will take the Good News to the ends of the earth {Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8} that's why Jesus could say after fulfilling everything having to do with the Christ:

"It has been accomplished" John 19:30

That faithful day Jesus completed the task!

So Satan wanted Jesus to take a short cut without following the due process!

He knows where to direct his blows because he is fully aware that true Christians will easily render him silent.
But it's OK let him continue dancing around his misinformed churchgoer victims!

advocatejare:
Dindinrin n din robo. True Christians indeed, so called true Christians whose founder and his wife divorced against the teaching of Christ, whose wife exposed as subjecting her to mental torture, who was notorious for giving false prophecies.
True Christians indeed! Just dey play

The above is what caused your headache as if Jesus never warned against false Christians following false prophets. {Matthew 7:21-23; 24:11} and he said his true disciples will be IDENTIFIED by the love among them! John 13:34-35

advocatejare:
I like the way you’re dissociating yourself with the founder of your cult, his lifestyle is not worth emulating. He failed in the simple task of keeping his home together

He went against the Christ’s teaching on divorce, he divorced his wife
He subjected his wife to mental torture.
He never followed Christ.
What is your sect’s stance on divorce today? Tell us Do you also subject your wives to mental torture like your founder?

So if anyone talks about TRUE CHRISTIANS and you're worried ọmọ check yourself!

Geovanni412:
One man one wife is good to avoid high BP
But is there husband and wife in paradise?
What's the position of the Bible on that?

PARADISE means renovated earth when all the evildoers has been exterminated {Psalms 37:9-11} the earth will remain but all evildoers will be cutoff {Proverbs 2:20-22} the whole system will change as there will be no deserts but food growing in abundance {Psalms 72:16} anywhere we allow after building our homes {Isaiah 65:21-23} all animals will start eating straws no more predators {Isaiah 11:7; 65:25} no more sickness {Isaiah 33:24} blindness, deafness and lameness will be cured for good {Isaiah 35:5-6} no more oldage because we will forever remain as youths {Job 33:25} and as for death God will swallow it for good {Isaiah 25:8} all these are the promises of God found in the scriptures ran through the minds of that Jewish thief when Jesus said:
"I am promising you today, you will be with me in Paradise" Luke 23:43

So back to the topic of discussion, God doesn't want anyone to feel hurt, sorrow nor shed tears due to heartbreak {Revelations 21:3-4} there's going to be so much fun for lovebirds that's why Jesus said in that setting only a man a his wife can fit well (not polygamists) just as Adam and Eve perfectly fit in the setting in the beginning! Matthew 19:4

Geovanni412:
I still disagree with you on the issue of Abraham and polygamy. He was polygamous up until when he chased away Haggai. I don't think there's a better way to put it

Do polygamist today wait until they're aged before going for a second woman?
How many polygamist today goes for second wife due to the barrenness of the first woman?
Do polygamist today take orders from their wives?
Can they drive away the second wife with her child?
Guy Abraham no be polygamist!

Geovanni412:
I like the verse you quoted in 1 Corinthians 10
My interpretation is that it is condemning the act of taking concubines or participating in adultery and different types of sexual gymnastics.

Adultery is adultery stay with your wife or you won't see Paradise because there only one man and one wife is applicable deliberate polygamist after knowing what Jesus said about the beginning will not inherit God's kingdom!

EnvyandHate:
The evil Blacks are worse than White people ever thought about being.

Going by the way the whites in authority treats their own people shows blacks still nurse that feelings that their subjects are SLAVES!

This is what i've been telling most people on this forum but they won't reason they're blaming white people as if those ones came picking slaves in their rooms!