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Mikel99:
Some people say that they have died , gone to hell and seen some important figures. People have claimed seeing Gandhi, Hitler, Stalin, Michael Jackson and so on. If these were true, how come no one had claimed seeing prophet Muhammad in hell? Some Christians tend to lie to propagate their faith.

Simple!
There are pictures of the people they claim to have seen but as for Muhammad even Muslims can't describe his looks so how can anyone say he saw such a person?

Emusan:
Since you obey and love Jesus Christ, has Jesus revealed Himself to you

Do you know the sign that Jesus has revealed himself to anyone?

Emusan:
Anyway, you don't understand scripture if not you won't have asked this question.

Jesus actually says "Those who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones who love me. And because they love me, my Father will love them. And I will love them and reveal myself to each of them.” John 14:21

You claimed you obey and love Christ but has Jesus revealed Himself to you?

"Those who ACCEPT my commandments and OBEY them are the ones who love me. And because they love me, my Father will love them. And I will love them and REVEAL myself to each of them.” John 14:21

From the above quote is it those that doesn't believe in Jesus that he revealed himself to or those that have accepted his commandments?

Paul accepted God's commandments from his viewpoint he was acting on what the law says:

"If any uncircumcised male will not circumcise the flesh of his foreskin, that person must be cut off from his people. He has broken my covenant" Genesis 17:14

The disciples of Christ were accommodating and eating with UNCIRCUMCISED gentiles this is totally unacceptable according to God's law that's why Jesus Christ himself have to appear to Paul so that the man could understand that the New Covenant has come and it has nothing to do with circumcision of the skin.

But you people are claiming Jesus use to appear to unbelievers who aren't even ready to accept his teachings that's what we are talking right now.

Please don't change the subject because that's your usual attitude, let us focus on the topic of discussion and with the quoted scripture tell me what Jesus is doing with an unbeliever!

vannessa7:
Jesus is a provision of God for the gentiles, and that's why Christianity operates on Grace but that grace ends here on earth. Have you studied the character of the God who created Jesus whom you have turned to God abandoning the true worship of your maker? Go and walk with God through the old testament and learn His character, likes and dislikes because that's what will eventually matter in eternity holiness and obedience to the Creator, grace will keep holiness far away from you and that's the weakness of Christianity, pampers you and the devil in you until it's too late and you find yourself in eternity with witchcraft and familiar spirit and idol powers and they have only one abode, hell, they will take their followers with them there. Islam does not operate on Grace which allows corruption, we deal directly with almighty God, thus we must be His good ambassador, you lot can love idolaters, we will live for God together with Abraham that broke the idols of his father's house, Elijah that killed Prophets of Baal, and many other solders of God, we will condemn idolatory and discourage it.

Now you're talking from the viewpoints of the BRAINWASHED!

Where in the Bible did Abraham broke idols in his father's house?
Elijah was acting on the CONSTITUTION of his nation which all their ancestors that started that nation after returning from Egypt AGREED upon. According to the CONSTITUTION given to the Israelites by their God idolatry must not be allowed in Israel because their God has sanctified that land after driving away all the idol worshipers in Canaan.
This totally differs from people coming to a place where the settlers welcomed you with your religion only for you to start demanding the extermination of those that accommodated you.
The God of Abraham is just so He first sent a warning message to all the inhabitants of Canaan through what happened in Egypt then His people were matching towards the land their forefather Abraham bought.
Please that's how just the God of Abraham is not some bloodthirsty god sending politicians to force their rules on those that accommodated you!

vannessa7:
You are not a Christian nor have any portion in God if you believe idolatory is ok with God.

Can you quote where Jesus or his disciples go after idolaters in the Bible?

You've been brainwashed by politicians telling you they're believers, Jesus sent his disciples to go and FISH OUT {Mark 1:17} people who are interested in knowing the truth about God {Matthew 10:11-13} not forcing their beliefs on them! Matthew 10:16

Do you now see that you were never a Christian?

MightySparrow:
Who are the idiots contributing in your organization? Simpletons!


Can't you see a whooping $40m to pay for sexual assault by one of your elders? Who paid?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3chu1HD17xs

Ọmọ nah lie!

Talk about what is happening here in Nigeria where you and i can testify not some cyber news that you can't verify other than pictures and videos of actors.
If something is wrong with my religion point to where it's happening here in Nigeria not far away after all you want me to see the bad fruit of my religion so it should be right in my own territory since there are practicers of the religion here in Nigeria.

People are talking about Muslims killing people of other religions not only in far away counties where we can't ascertain but it's also happening right here in Nigeria.

So provide evidence here not what nobody can verify!

vannessa7:
Do you know it angers me when I see Yoruba obas being enthroned with serious idolatory and devil worship while Hausas enthrone their emirs with Quran and prayers to God almighty,

You're not a believer but politician!
The true God doesn't force Himself on people rather each person has to decide whether to worship God or not. When i was a Muslim the clerics use to quote where God asked Israelites to recover Canaan from idol worshipers but they will not think of God's approach.
He allowed the Israelites to go to Egypt where they were enslaved for over 400 years before going there with two octogenarians to release them using great miraculous signs.
Do you know the purpose of this events?
Well God was sending a warning message to all the inhabitants of Canaan to vacate the place because His people are coming to settle in the place where pure worship is to be established. In fact God specifically warned the Israelites that there are places they shouldn't think of acquiring because it's not part of the land Abraham paid for.
So God didn't force those people to become His worshipers unlike what politicians claiming believers are doing now using weapons and wars to take over people's lands and forcing their rules on them.
If you're claiming Muslim today and you're of the opinion that others shouldn't be allowed to practice whatever they believe as long as their beliefs cause you no harm then you're not a believer in the God of Abraham but a politician!

MightySparrow:
Who is that man, what is his business?

Guy when sane people are talking about lies in the churches where some idiots are gathering their money to enrich an individual you're supposed to keep quiet!

When an atheist decides to get rich from the gullibility of misinformed churchgoers they will fabricate some tantalizing story about their hell and heaven to call their attention!

Ken4Christ:
Everyone who refuse to repent will go there. God is no respecter of persons. Whether you are a Prophet, Bishop, Reverend or whatever title you possess, you will go to hell if you refuse to repent.

Your problem is the word "REPENT" it should be for your pastors as they understand what you're talking about not me as for me you're a deluded misinformed churchgoer.
So help your pastors who agree with you to do the repenting stuff after all you all agree on the terms and conditions of your god!

MightySparrow:
Many and we are asking for more.
Is he using as cargo jet?
Tell me what you know about his itinerary?

So everything you people are contributing is for one man's business not for organized people like what God's people do in ancient Israel for pure worship!

jaephoenix:
Usually MadMax falls on topics here in religion section like a rash. Notice he has stayed away. But watch him unashamedly come and say rubbish

jaephoenix:
When people like Maxindhouse and Aemmyjah are funding their orgies, what do you expect?

Keep waiting for what you will never get from me, if you have something reasonable call me!
If you like quote me a hundred times i'm not interested in lies!
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Ken4Christ:
You are using lies to defend your lies. Even your conscience knows that you are lying. Continue until you fulfill prophecy. You will gnash and weep in the worst portion of hell unless you repent.

Mumu!
You yourself said your pastors will be in your hell yet you can't help them!

MindHacker9009:
Dey play. "The number of voting shareholders of the corporation is limited to between 300 and 500 male Jehovah's Witnesses."
FYI: The majority shareholders of your organisation owns your beloveth organisation.

So it doesn't belong to any individual but to God's people as a whole!

MightySparrow:
I think you preach and condemn pastorpreneurs. How did your organization amass such wealth? Okay, how you know that the riches of Anglican, Catholics, RCCG, Winner s, Baptist...., belong to individuals?

Your Papa has how many private jets?
Does these jets belong to the church or his own PERSONAL property?

Let's start from there!

If Jesus will appear to everyone in person then what is the need for his disciples to preach? Matthew 28:18-20; Act 1:8

There are many atheists claiming believers!

“Honor your father and your mother” is the first command with a promise: “That it may go well with you and you may remain a long time on the earth.” Ephesians 6:2-3

God makes his sun shines and rain fall both on the good and evil {Matthew 5:45} so leave the prayers out the young man is doing the things of God though he's not a believer! Romans 1:20

In there respective churches!

MindHacker9009:
Oh you think organisations too are like your invented Jesus Christ. FYI Organisations are owned by individuals and they are not a made up story like your invented Jesus Christ that just appeared in Mary womb without Josheph entering her.

We are saying the same thing, the difference here is that no individual owns the ancient temple in Jerusalem with all it's glory it belongs to God's people as a whole the same with our organization today.
Recently a member of the Governing Body was stepped down, do you think there won't be trouble if he is a shareholder in the assets of the organization?
Ọmọ what belongs to God's organization is the property of all members of Jehovah's Witnesses world-wide that's why you can't see anyone owning private jets despite the billions of dollars!

Sunnyshinylight:
And so because, the citizens have refused to hear instructions and hold their leaders accountable, poverty and shame have taken over their country

Satan made people feel they're in control when they ELECT those in authority but it's a lie all human government is against God's will that's why Samuel objected furiously to the idea when Israelites demanded for a King! 1Samuel 8:6
The true God made it clear to Samuel saying:
“Listen to everything the people say to you; for it is not you whom they have rejected, but it is I whom they have rejected as their king" 1Samuel 8:7
God later instructed Samuel to tell the Israelites all the injurious things they will face in the hands of a human King {1Samuel 8:10-17} then he concluded saying:
"The day will come when you will cry out because of the king you have chosen for yourselves, but Jehovah will not answer you in that day.” 1Samuel 8:18

So don't think only Nigerians are suffering due to the satanic system of rule (Democracy) in most countries protests are ongoing against their chosen rulers that's why Jesus told his own disciples to continue praying for God's kingdom to come {Matthew 6:10} because that's the only hope for world peace!

MindHacker9009:
How about your most cherrished organisation with $billions of dollars that can buy an island to make a paradice for members that they have been preaching your invented Jesus Christ is coming back to create on earth.

Do you know the difference between an individual owning billions of dollars and an organization owning billions of dollars?


Well our God is rich that's why His organization has assets all over the place just as the ancient temple in Jerusalem has gold and silver worth billions of dollars inside yet many Israelites aren't rich.
Lesson learned: the riches belongs to the organization as a whole not any individual!

Another billionaire in the making!

Ken4Christ:
Jesus said that there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth there. Do lifeless bodies weep and gnash their teeth? Jesus said that the rich man lifted up his eyes in hell and saw Lazarus afar. Do dead bodies in the grave see?
You will defend yourself and call it parable. Do you use events that can not happen in real life as parables? Our does it sound if you replace the word hell with grave in the narration above? In grave, the rich man lifted up his eyes and saw Lazarus... Don't you see how foolish it sounds. You don't have much time left on earth. Repent fast rather than defending the doctrines of Russell and Rutherford. Russell and Rutherford teachings have damaged your brain cells. Well, you will join them very soon in that burning flame since you don't want to believe God word.

When Jesus was talking stubborn Jews were GNASHING their teeth at him in mockery that's why he said all their mockery will lead them to everlasting destruction but the thought of the dead being alive somewhere has eaten deep into your brain cells so you can't understand that death is the opposite of life.
Well just as your topic says it's all about your own people those you're calling PASTORS and MINISTERS so go and help them if you can!

JaySmart4422:
Thanks

You're welcome in Jesus name!

Lawag3:
God create man, man's desire came with his free will. God gave man free will because he wants us to worship him by ourselves we are not programmed robots we are humans. I have already had this discussion of God's omniscience with you before you understood but choose to play dumb.

The problem with most people is what Satan's system turned WORSHIP to in fact they have lost the correct meaning of that verb "WORSHIP"

According to the Bible worship means doing what pleases someone else so the Bible God wants exclusive devotion (heartfelt worship)

But because Satan wants to share the worship that rightly belongs to God {Luke 4:7} he made many think that all they need to do is offer whatever they feel instead of their best to God that's why Jesus of Nazareth said:

“The first (greatest commandment) is, ‘Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah, and you must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind and with your whole strength'" Mark 12:29-30

Of course lots of blessings awaits anyone who obey this commandment {Isaiah 48:17-18} because the true God is the only source of WISDOM and man needs wisdom to be truly happy! Proverbs 2:6-7

lawani:
Mentality once set can never change. You as a person can never change and anybody that has put you on surveillance can predict you as if you were a robot. What you have decided to be is what you will remain forever and that is what determines your character which determines your actions. For example, the average human being will never do evil but some will under certain circumstances

Just say conscientious (not average) and as for humans our conscience are trained day by day as we welcome informations that can lift our spirit.
You're here chatting with people to see many in your neighbourhood CHANGE FOR GOOD if you have no hope then there's no reason posting anything for others to read!

The adjective HOLY means PURITY of highest order!

So when the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob called Himself "HOLY" He simply means when compared to all other Gods you can think of He is the purest.
For instance the sky is bright but if you're to carefully look into the sky surely you will have something to say about some dark clouds yet you can never ever find any source of brighter light that's better than what the sky offers.

So when talking about holy ones these are the people who have been certified as in declared righteous by the most high God therefore in all ramifications they're far far better than those who aren't believers in God it's like comparing people suffering from partial blindness to those having sharp eyes!

lawani:
That is just an executive summary. In his youth he was declared wanted for killing a police man but he managed to avoid arrest. He later became Pastor but what you did once you will do again, people don't change, they only become a clearer version of themselves. You can't kill a person as a twenty year old and say you are now born again. Under the same circumstances you will kill again. His body count his seven human beings

I'm not interested in whatever you say a human have done in the past because we are all born sinners but the highlighted caught my attention!

Moses as a youth was a thug he killed a man and singlehandedly buried the dead man but by the time God was sending him as a prophet to Egypt Moses has changed completely in fact God said:
"At that time Moses was the most gentle man on the surface of the earth" Numbers 12:3

So please never say:
"people don't change" otherwise you have to kill your own child who did something really bad if you have no hope that the child could have a change of heart!