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Dantedasz:
Honestly,you sound like a deluded child. I wish you well. The brainwashing and delusion is very deep. The shackles are very strong. Have a good day.

Instead of agreeing that everyone has the right to their own opinion they will resort to insuts yet saying they're not here to influence others?

Honchoslim16:
Well, as for me... I don't believe in 'sin'
I follow laws stated in the constitution of my country..... Not laws stated by an Israeli god or Arab god!

The acknowledgement of law is for intelligent creatures to curb the menace within their society!

The acknowledgement of sin is for wise people to live longer!

So i will prefer Sin!

Dantedasz:
At the emboldened,
What I know about organised religion,in my little finger(pinky) is more than what you know in your whole body. My last response to you.

Ọmọ you know nothing!

For your information the God of the Bible has decreed a time when all thoughtful inhabitants of this planet will start engaging themselves in discussions like this because they're hungry for spiritual food! Amos 8:11

Dantedasz:
Please stop feeding me eba,without soup.

That's why you're always here on the religious section even though you claim you're an atheist (someone who doesn't believe in the existence of God)

So if my comments render you silent it's because you have no worthy rebuttal:


"No weapon formed against you will have any success, And you will condemn any tongue that rises up against you in the judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of Jehovah, And their righteousness is from me,” declares Jehovah! Isaiah 54:17

So know that it's because you're empty that's why you can't reply again even though i've been calm with you despite calling my faith absurdity! 1Peter 3:15

Dantedasz:
ASSUMPTIONS!!!
The simple question is why would an omniscient,omnipotent and benevolent god,leave Satan (to continue leading humanity astray) and instead destroy humanity with floods water during Noahs time.
It is not necessary for you to comment if you don't know the answer,instead of wriggling and turning eba without soup

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni don't kill yourself over matters of faith if you want to know something you calm down and reason not judging from your preconceived thoughts then expecting everyone to agree with you!

Satan is misleading the whole inhabited earth but only those that already have bad motives that could be influenced by Satan.

If you are made a judge in a law court will you punish only the initiator of robbery and leave the real armed robbers?

Job's case has settled the whole thing only evil people could be influenced by Satan as for integrity keepers Satan can't influence them no matter what happens.

So if Satan is destroyed today someone else will still initiate evil that's why time is needed to settle this matter once and for all.

It will be in record forever that sin was initiated and all those that took the path of sin were destroyed {Matthew 7:13-14} WHY? Because it caused lots and lots of pains for both the sinners and their innocent neighbours!

Lawag3:
Satan is not the source of sin. Yeah he brought it to this world but he is not the source.

He is the first sinner though sin has always existed I think it comes with free will.

If God were to kill Satan today people will still sin.

Excellent!

This is what many failed to realize that's why our all wise God is resolving the issue gradually. First all mankind must know that sin could be initiated by any intelligent creature but then the Bible and what will happen before God finally destroy Satan will serve as evidence against anyone who choose the path of sin. By that time when there is no more old age, sickness or death whoever chose the path of sin will not be given a lengthy tenure again because it has been proven that sin is evil so such a sinner will be allowed to enjoy his youthful life for 100 years then he will die as a youth with no one to miss him {Isaiah 65:20} because they all knew why he die when death has been swallowed by God! Isaiah 25:8

Aemmyjah:
He does believe the bible
Na philosophy he wan accept?

Because they failed to make investigations they have concluded that the whole thing makes no sense {Psalm 10:4} so they want everyone to agree with them that there's no sense in God's word.
That's why they become abusive with rage when they meet a true Christian who is ready to set matter straight with calmness!

Busybrain2233:
Well I'm not bothered about this for now, I'm bothered about my initial questions.

I attend to many both online and offline please remind me your initial question!

ebubeson:
Please is your pastor still in the act of bringing comedians to Pollute God's Altar? Let him stop and repent.

Who will tell him to stop promoting his family business?

Guy Jesus has separated his own disciples from the world empire of false religions since the year 1914 {Revelations 18:4} so the CHASM continue to grow wider {Luke 16:26} by the day as Babylon (world empire of false religions) keeps deteriorating and Jesus' group is shining brightly! Matthew 5:14-16

Find out which religious group is practicing what Jesus commanded today, in our gathering there is no jokes because that's not what Jesus ordered us to go and do!

SIRTee15:
God's glory cannot be shared by any man.
If Jesus shared in that glory....that tells u something ....

God shared it with Adam but he fell by sinning so he failed to pass it to his descendants that's why the scriptures say:

"For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23 compare to Romans 5:12

Jesus came to replace Adam {1Corinthians 15:45} so he can share that glory with all those having faith in him as their adoptive father through faith {John 1:11-12} hence Jesus could say:

"I have GIVEN them the glory that you have GIVEN me, in order that they may be one just as we are one" John 17:22

As son of God {John 3:16} Jesus was GIVEN God's glory just as Adam was also given {Luke 3:38} Adam failed to pass it on to his children but Jesus was able to pass it on to all those accepting him as their adoptive father!

Atheism gives you no hope but try to be one of the integrity keepers in your neighbourhood at least people living around you deserve to be happy so if you want to be happy don't be a threat to other people's happiness.
Whether you believe in a Creator or not know that everyone deserves to be happy so by treating your neighbour the way you want to be treated you're OK!

gohf:
the very nature to dominate and desire to rule is still there but without the submission required for such dominion to be established is because a farse they try extremely hard to hold.

So is it really a question of "or" and not of "both", that the delusion of self freedom while enslaving/controlling others isn't that the reality. To believe they are free from God but act as gods over others. They make rules but deny the rule above them.

I hope my answer is satisfactory, if not I do apologize 😊

You got it perfectly!

To cohabit peacefully there must be a supreme being (God) but when atheists who have built secret altars in their hearts see others they feel like dominating by telling others what to do while they deny the supreme authority.

My friend you really understood what i said!

bobestman:
The one within you predates books and is more accurate than books.

So why must people wait for anyone if they're ok on their own?
Why quoting books and saying "it's in your Bible" if books aren't needed?

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni you don colo!

FreedomfromtheT:
Is is not you and your fellow Jehovah's witness that brought up the issue of a CChristian having to die quoting Romans 3:23 to emphasize that the Christian is yet a sinner for the fact that he will still grow old and die?
My point still remains that Christ can set the sinner totally free from sin in order for the elsewhile sinner who is now a Christian to inherit the Kingdom of God (Romans 6:17,18,22).
He has graciously done it for me and multitude of others.
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today He forever will still graciously do it for as many as are yet living in sin as they trust Him to do it for them.
Thank you.

Jesus has done the same for millions of Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the earth so we know he is our redeemer but the fact still remains that the wages of sin which is death must be paid if God's Kingdom hasn't come.

So after payment for sin all humans has been pardoned but then who are those to be brought back to life in Paradise?

That's when Christians comes to mind because the dead in Christ will be resurrected FIRST because they have no sin in them anymore but other sinners will be resurrected too these ones died without knowing Jesus that's why the scriptures say there's going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and unrighteous {Act 24:15} the righteous are Christians and ancient faithful servants of God but the unrighteous are people who lives by conscience without the righteousness of God, they will be resurrected because they kept their conscience alive! Romans 2:15

Death is the wages of sin {Romans 6:23} so whatever makes anyone die now it means he or she paid for sin. It's when God's kingdom come that believers will no longer pay because it's our redeemer that will be ruling the earth at that time!

gohf:
the Father 😊😌

Atheism began in the garden of Eden when Satan told Eve that it's possible for humans to become their own gods {Genesis 3:4-5} from that moment the couple wanted God out of the way so they can see themselves as gods.

Note that both of them heard God's voice yet they went into hiding not because they were repentant but they want Him to desist from engaging them in words so they can do whatever pleases them instead of pleasing God.

That's why God sent them out of the garden He prepared for them and told them they will die since they're no longer under His care.

So to discuss with atheists you must know the source of their problem, these people aren't arguing because they can't see God or hear from God what they don't want is anyone setting standards for them on how they will live their lives. But one thing God want them to know before they expire is that He wasn't trying to control them on how they must live their lives but preventing them from setting standards for others!

Each atheist has a secret altar in his heart that is where he bow (worship) himself/herself each time they wakes up. God wants them to realize that since they have to deal with fellow humans there must be someone who will set rules that will serve as guidelines between them and their neighbours.

If you observe carefully you will see these guys aren't here to say they're no longer interested in God but they want to tell others what to do regarding matters having to do with God!

So are they seeking freedom for real or trying to control others?

Aemmyjah:
Let's not mention the one that sackee about 40 pastors that could not raise more money for church in the name of bearing fruit

NO, he didn't sack them in the Lord's work they were sacked from his personal investment.
I wonder how some people think walahi talahi!

FreedomfromtheT:
He (Christ) was manifested to TAKE AWAY OUR SINS and in Him is no sin. Whosoever abides in Him (Christ) doesn't sin any longer.

This is the truth but as sinners you must grow old, get sick and die that's what you must pay for your sin so if you're growing old presently know that it's due to your sin.
If you're no longer sinning that's what will give you the benefit of having your name written in the book of life for remembrance when Gods kingdom comes.
Jesus said:

“I am the resurrection and the life. The one who exercises faith in me, even though he dies, will come to life; and everyone who is living and exercises faith in me will never die at all. Do you believe this?” John 11:25-26

Those BELIEVING in Christ now must grow old, get sick and die because of their sin but if God's Kingdom is here today all unbelievers will die while believers in Christ will never taste death again because the application of Christ's ransom sacrifice has began manifesting globally.
It's like a new government is coming to power and prisoners on the list in the hands of the new ruler are freed. Their freedom doesn't just happens that day but from the moment their names were written in his book so they have to continue enduring the pains of prison while anticipating his reign they have freed SECRETLY once he begin his rule they will surely be freed PUBLICLY!

Regarding faith in Christ Lazarus's sister said

[b]“Yes, Lord, I have believed that you are the Christ, the Son of God, the one coming into the world.” John 11:27

Yet Jesus' friend (her brother Lazarus) died and she also will grow old, get sick and die!

WHY?

Because as long as Jesus Christ hasn't begin his earthly reign all his disciples on planet earth are still like prisoners who have decided not to commit the evil that brought sin upon them but they must still pay for the one they committed before they became believers and the sin they inherited!

Now you don't want Kumuyi who deluded you with lies to be brought to book but you've been talking about Jehovah's Witnesses as if you know anything than we do.
If you stop talking about Jehovah's Witnesses i will leave Kumuyi then we can both talk about what we know without involving who or where we learned it!

MightySparrow:
So?
1. You.now want WC excommunicate their members they don't have any problem with?
2. That means, as I believe, JWs like to play with words but little knowledge.
God's relationship with man since the Fall is via covenant. Any bible interpretation that leaves that out is a joke. That is why JW's are comedians in the things of God bearing false witnesses about a God they don't know.
So bọbọ old soldier, you are deluded.
I am laughing in the language of JWs paradise.

See OLÓDO!

Papa deluded you with the word "COVENANT" so you expected everyone to follow what he told you about covenant shey?
Ọ̀DẸ̀ ni ẹ́!

By the end of the day if we are to talk about COVENANT you will still come back saying:
"it's DELUSION" when you finally discover you don't even know it's meaning.
If not the COVENANT the true God made with Abraham why must everyone on earth comply with what is written in the Bible?
Don't your own forefathers have their Gods?

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni you've been robbed with empty words yet you can't see it. Excommunication is the only punishment in Christianity so members of any religion who don't excommunicate are practicing falsehood because their must be UNREPENTANT WRONGDOERS!

MightySparrow:
See delusion. How many children molesters have you excommunicated?

Unrepentant wrongdoers are excommunicated! Note that i didn't ask you if you're excommunicating wrongdoers but UNREPENTANT WRONGDOERS.
So when a wrongdoer is repentant there is no reason for excommunication that's how mercy comes in. But saying you don't excommunicate shows you're not practicing Christianity at all!

MightySparrow:
I asked you to debate about covenant you ran away. Curse is a part of it. You want to open the topic again to test my knowledge of it?

That has to do with TEACHING so you can't expect everyone to follow what your Papa told you. But as for excommunication it's the only judicial penalty for wrongdoers in Christianity so it must come in case of unrepentant wrongdoers!

bobestman:
The entity you call God is a spirit and can best be reached via secret prayers and meditation not by religion or denominations. It is also not about books cos the spirit man in you predates books and many histories today are full of corruption. Many can't even read no matter how you teach them. It is about doing what is right and avoiding what is wrong. The ability to know right and wrong is sealed in your spirit. This is why when you do wrong you feel sorrow and remorse. It is not about your denominatios cos all will hear the truth one day that will save or condemn them - Rev 14:6

Guy you're still quoting the book brought by preachers and teachers yet you want me to believe you that there shouldn't be anything like what they're doing.
Please go and see a psychiatrist because you're not making any sense!

nagro999:
Who is OBATALA in the Bible?

There is just one Creator so the only way He can communicate with us is through a channel otherwise there will be contradictions everywhere.
So God called one man Abraham and through his lineage the whole earth will be informed regarding matters having to do with the true God, that's why the Bible has gone round the earth despite all the troubles by unbelievers.
You may choose to follow the gods of your own forefathers but note that no other god on this planet gave their worshipers any hope regarding the future!
If you want to know why i will tell you but these are the things the Bible God foretold and has come through in our own time.

[1] A child will be born among His worshipers and he will become the world's most wonderful counselor of all time! Isaiah 9:6
[2] A time will come when all the nations on this planet will want to know about the God of Israel! Isaiah 2:2-3
[3] Time will come when all other gods will be silenced as their worshipers won't have what to preach or teach about their gods! Psalm 115:4-8
[4] Time will come when worshipers of the Bible God will be known globally despite their simplicity, meekness and gentility. Matthew 5:14-16
[5] Time will come when people of all other nations will love to believe in what Israelites teaches about God! Zechariah 8:23
[6] Time will come when worshipers of all the gods will be carried away with politics and racism so uncontrollable killings will continue globally! Revelations 6:3-4
[7] But at that same time worshipers of the Bible God will be united and peaceful more than ever! John 17:22 compare to Isaiah 2:2-4
[8] Time will come when the worshipers of the Bible God will be fully informed on how to go discussing with their neighbours! Malachi 3:16; Matthew 24:14

Please can you tell me one promise made by your Ọbàtálá which adherents of this god are fulfilling everywhere today apart from begging with white clothes from one place to another!

MightySparrow:
You are a mumu soldier.
It seems you don't know the meaning of a curse. Scattering of Israel is part of the deal of the covenant. Deity. 28: 15 to the end.

See wahala for Papa follower who wan argue wetin he no sabi.

Abeg which Bible book be "DEITY" o!

MightySparrow:
Mercy also is part. Wanting to claim only holy or holier than thou of JWs is the veil covering your mind. If you read the Bible with an open mind you will see that your logic doesn't hold water.

Do you excommunicate wrongdoers?
If not then you're not practicing Christianity as the first century followers of Christ did. Period!

MightySparrow:
How are you better than the Israelites? They deny Christ, abhorred his flesh and blood;; you despise both, throwing them in the dunghill.
Delusion.

We are better than Israelites a million times!
We preach about God's kingdom in Jesus name, we teach anyone who is willing what Jesus will do as God's Kingdom, we baptize them in the name of the father of the son and of the Holy Spirit, we teach them to obey all what Jesus commanded his disciples to do, we have formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers just as Christ prayed for, we uniting faithful people throughout the world according to God's word.

Ọmọ if Its about Jesus' flesh and blood that's not to be taken literally as your useless Papa told you. People eating it does figuratively and they're the ones behind all the fine works you can see among us. So while you people keep eating and drinking without any positive results due to lack of understanding we know what we are doing!

Your epistle can't cover up your mess!

In Christianity there must be punishment for unrepentant wrongdoers and the only punishment in Christianity is excommunication. So if your church don't excommunicate wrongdoers then you're not practicing Christianity!

Jesus often teach some of his disciples secret things which they must not reveal to the public so if your church don't have such then you're not practicing Christianity!

Jesus CURSED Israel in the Bible that's why they scattered throughout the earth! Luke 11:23

So you're empty headed just as your Papa!

MightySparrow:
Delusion.

Canaan grandson of Noah was cursed not the land. Just qoute one scripture signifying the curse on Canaan land. Land. Land!
Why would God promise His own a cursed land? Canaan himself bore seven children who built cities.



2. I don't see where God severed relationship with Israel completely. He only said because of betrayal of His covenant, a remnant would be saved. This error (semitism) was first preached by Catholics then European in general and later Germans. Catholic church killed hundred of thousands of Jews. Hitler killed six million Jews, and wanted to enslave the rest of the world.
JWs are milder in their philosophy, not believing in violence. They would be worse than Muslims.
When they rejected Jesus, and said ' let his blood be upon us and our children ' that is the only curse, self inflicted. The final betrayal of covenant.
On the cross, Jesus still prayed for them for forgiveness.
Luke.23.34 - Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.

Romans 11:1-36
I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
[2]God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,
[3]Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
[4]But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
[6]And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
[7]What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
[8] (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.
[9]And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
[10]Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
[13]For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
[14]If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
[15]For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
[16]For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
[17]And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
[19]Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
[20]Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
[21]For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
[22]Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
[23]And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
[24]For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
[25]For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
[26]And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
[27]For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
[28]As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
[29]For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
[30]For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
[31]Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
[32]For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
[34]For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
[35]Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?
[36]For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.
3. How many of the children molesters in your organization have you excommunicated? You only excommunicate those telling you the truth.

So, you are now wiser than God and holier than the Apostles. I read in a thread, I can't remember which, where your member was ' correcting' Thomas for calling Jesus his Lord and God. If Jesus didn't correct him, are you in the best position to do that?


Your delusion in infinitesimally big Old soldier.

FreedomfromtheT:
You are wrong sir.
Your sinful nature is either undone now that you are still alive or never (Isaiah 55:6,7; 2nd Corinthians 6:2; Hebrews 9:27). Christ shed His blood to random the believer now that one is still alive or never (Titus 2:11-14; 1st Peter 1:18,19).
You either repent and appropriate His sacrifice on your behalf NOW or never.
One with the sinful nature cannot inherit God's Kingdom (1st Corinthians 6:9-11).
"And such were some of us: but we are washed, (at the moment), but we are sanctified (now), but we are (currently) justified in the name of Jesus and by the Spirit of our God" (1st Corinthians 6:11).
Thank you.

Obviously you don't even know what "SIN" means because according to Jesus believers in Jesus can only have their names written in the book of life but they're still sinners who must pay for their sins by dying.
Whoever is without sin now shouldn't die since it's sin that causes death! Romans 6:23

Your Kumuyi is wrong in this there's no way you can come out of the quagmire unless you prove to me that deeperlife members don't die as long as people grow old, get sick and die it's the wages of sin they're paying!

BravoCuisine:
Shut up.

OOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEE!

THIEF!

BARAWO!

Go and meet your family!

Now these are reasons why i keep telling you that you're not a Christian!

MightySparrow:
Have you ever heard Winners Chapel excommunicating anyone?

It's the WORKS of Christians {James 2:18-26} to excommunicate wrongdoers in their midst!

"Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them". Romans 16:17

"But now I am writing you to stop keeping company with anyone called a brother who is sexually immoral or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man" 1Corinthians 5:11
If your church don't excommunicate anyone at all it shows that your Papa only built shrines having nothing to do with the teachings of first century followers of Christ!

MightySparrow:
Have you ever heard Winners Chapel teaching anything in secret that is esoteric not made known to Public?

This is another sign that your Papa just initiate his own sect without following the pattern of Christ Jesus because it's not everything Jesus makes known to the public. Matthew 16:20
Even among his apostles Jesus revealed certain secrets that the rest don't know! Matthew 17:1

MightySparrow:
Would you agree with the OP that Israel is cursed and are not recognized today or anytime?

Of course Jesus CURSED the nations of Israel!

“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! But you did not want it. Look! Your house is abandoned to you" Matthew 23:37-38

"This is why I say to you, the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits. Also, the person falling on this stone will be shattered. As for anyone on whom it falls, it will crush him. Matthew 21:43-44

The fig tree Jesus CURSED depicted the nation of Israel that continues to be fruitless despite all the servants of God sent to moisturize the seed God planted among them! Mark 11:12-14

So the nation of Israel has been CURSED by no other person but the son of God himself!

BravoCuisine:
Can any good person help? I want to pay my house rent. The money is a big money for me at this time. The 30k is a huge for me. I am learning driving. Because of this I am about to sell my phone. If I see help, then I will not sell my phone.

Go and meet your family!

MightySparrow:
Mohammed claimed they surrendered to him by terror. Islam means surrender not peace. You mean job was terrorized to obey Allah?
So Allah ṣe t Shytan to traumatize with calamity job to obey him shey?

You this old fool why running away from what this man said below about your Papa and his shrine?

They said your Papa is a cultist and his church is built for his cult.

Address this first just as you often mention me anytime you find posts talking evil about Jehovah's Witnesses so i'm also mentioning you now to address this abi you don abandon your Papa?

Emperor4God:
Many people do not know that Winners Chapel aka Living Faith have buildings designed to glorify Satan and promote the Illuminati

Many know that Convenant University is full of Occult symbols, but most ignore the fact that ever proposed built Winners Chapel aka Living Faith is a celebration of the occult.

FOR EXAMPLE WINNERS CHAPEL OTA IS CALLED CANAANLAND AND THE BIBLE SAY'S CURSED IS CANAAN.

Genesis 9:25
And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

Now think about it why call your church Canaanland unless you have satanic ideas.

Even a Freemason temple is called Canaan.

[img]http://2.bp..com/-Ce73GxpifQA/VMWl3yLzKmI/AAAAAAAAAyw/wvzZnqgj1og/s1600/canaan%2Blodge2.jp[/img]

THE NAME CANAAN IS SO CURSED THAT A MAN WROTE ABOUT IT.
SO TO CALL YOUR CHURCH CANAAN LAND SHOWS EVIL INTENTIONS

https://i.imgur.com/WAEQntS.png?1

WE WILL SHOW THAT THE FOLLOWING ARE ALL ILLUMINATI & FREEMASON BUILDINGS

1 WINNERS CHAPEL NAIROBI KENYA
2 WINNERS CHAPEL INTERNATIONAL TOGO
3 WINNERS CHAPEL KADUNA
4 WINNERS CHAPEL PORT HARCOURT
5 WINNERS CHAPEL ILORIN
6 WINNERS CHAPEL OWERRI
7 WINNERS CHAPEL IBADAN
8 WINNER CHAPEL BOTSWANA
9 WINNERS CHAPEL GOSHEN CITY, ABUJA
10 WINNERS CHAPEL CANAANLAND OTA

Have you wondered why WINNERS CHAPEL GOSHEN CITY, ABUJA has this funny shaped roof?

https://i.imgur.com/0JI9ePw.png?1

WE EVEN GO FUTHER TO SHOW THAT THE PASTORS ARE FREEMASONS & MEMBERS OF THE ILLUMINATI
Notice the Pyramid Oyedepo flashes while preaching

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THERE IS SO MUCH WELL DOCUMENTED INFORMATION FOR MORE READING

http://emperorundertheking..co.uk/2015/01/winners-chapel-satan-illuminati-and.html


WINNERS CHAPEL ILLORIN HAS PYRAMID IN FRONT

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Janosky:
My brother Max,
Jesus Christ says his God GIVEN glory has been given to the disciples, @John 17:7,22,24. The disciples resurrected to heaven radiates God's glory that Jesus received & given them.
SirTee says Jesus is the radiance of God's glory @ Hebrews 1:3 means Jesus is God, Jesus says the disciples given same glory @ John17:7,22,24. Therefore,according to SirTee logic, John 17:7,22,24 meaning the disciples be God too. Please let's allow SirTee to delude himself.

He thought God's glory to is only for Jesus when the Bible called Adam God's image {Genesis 1:26} who is equal to Jesus {1Corinthians 15:45} they don't know that it was sin that removed that glory {Romans 3:23} and once a person becomes God's son {John 1:12} through the ransom sacrifice of Christ that glory will be restored! John 17:22

Busybrain2233:
You have digressed from my question sir, since you claim there's no hell explain what that Revelation 20:10-15 entails.

Hell means Grave where all dead creatures go {Ecclesiastes 9:5-10} in Paradise God will stop aging and sickness we will no longer grow old get sick {Isaiah 33:24} or die {Isaiah 25:8} that's why God's word said death and hell were cast into the lake of fire {Revelation 20:14} but then people who have died without hearing about the role model God gave mankind (Jesus) will be brought back to life along with millions of ancient servants of God {Revelation 20:13} what we are preaching today will be repeated as a witness against them just as it served as a witness against all those hearing it today {Matthew 24:14} all those rejecting has been judge already for rejecting the role model God gave mankind {John 3:17-18} so for rejecting the role model God gave us they will return to their dead state again but this time there is no hope of resurrection again because their death wasn't caused by oldage or sickness rather it's due to their disobedience that's why it's called "the second death" {Revelation 20:14} unlike the first death that affected both obedient and disobedient people the second death will only affect all those who failed to sit down and study the life of our role model with us that's why God's word said their names weren't found in the book of life {Revelation 20:15} because the only way their names can enter into God's memory book is how they responded to the message of Jehovah's Witnesses who are going to meet them for Bible study in their homes! Malachi 3:16

So Jesus Christ is the person {Revelation 1:1-2} saying all of these things in parables {Matthew 13:13} just as he often does whenever he knows Satan's agents will have access to sacred secrets like this his own true disciples will be taught by God's Holy Spirit what the parables means but Satan's agents can't know so they will take it all literally.

For instance God's word foretold that people who deliberately choose to be evil will never be remembered during resurrection {Psalm 9:17} but most Bible readers are thinking God will resurrect evil people because it was written that both righteous and unrighteous will be resurrected {Act 24:15} but the righteous simply means faithful servants of God who died faithfully while unrighteous means people who died ignorant of God's standards but lived by conscience {Romans 2:15} they remain unrighteous because they don't know the righteousness of God so they will be given a second chance but as for those who deliberately choose to be wicked the have had their own share to taste life there is no second chance for them again they are gone for good! Psalm 9:17

Busybrain2233:
Bros, walahi I know grab, you should have defined what a soul is first, before all this your many many explanation. His/her personality (character) remaining the same does not have anything to do with the soul.
Unless you mean character to be soul.🤷

I have defined it but since you haven't grab it i will explain further first of all the soul is you not something living inside of you. So if you're killed the soul called by your name is dead.
So the world can't have that exact character anywhere else unless you're revived.
The spirit is light the electricity used to power all electronic devices it was stored in all creatures so at death the only person who can restore it is the Creator! Ecclesiastes 12:7 compare to Ecclesiastes 3:19-20

Busybrain2233:
How about this below
_{Revelation 20:10-15
10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
The Judgment of the Dead
11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done.
14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.}

Jesus is the one talking there, he knew before hand that Satan's agents will come into the gathering of his disciples {Matthew 13:25} so whenever he's saying what is open to all he speaks in parables {Matthew 13:13, 34} he only reveals the real meaning of what he's saying to his own disciples.
So if you want to know the meaning of what he's saying ask his true disciples (Jehovah's Witnesses)