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vdestro:
It still the same covenant and law of sin/atonement. So you are wrong. It is no new covenant.

Ọmọ he is 100% correct with this!

God Himself declared that the covenant differ:

“Look! The days are coming,” declares Jehovah, “when I will make with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant. It will not be like the covenant that I made with their forefathers on the day I took hold of their hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, ‘my covenant that they broke, although I was their true master,’ declares Jehovah.” Jeremiah 31:31-32

So Christianity is not under the law covenant that's why we can't stone people to death when they turn against what God said!

Steep:
It is the same God but two different convenants. The first covenant is base on Israel keeping the law and failure to do so attract severe punishment.
The second covenant is based on the finish work of Jesus christ on the work in which christ bears the penalt of sins for thise who put their trust in him.

Excellent!

So after Christianity has been established there is no need destroying evildoers bit by bit anymore God has set a time limit when all evildoers will be totally exterminated:

"Moreover, bring these enemies of mine here who did not want me to become king over them and execute them in front of me" ~ Jesus of Nazareth @ Luke 19:27

Aemmyjah:
Pls, like we watched in the videos recently
Stop conversing with fools
If you don't give them any attention, they are like dead rat
Let them remain dormant

I'm just wondering how any sane person can wake up each day only to start thinking of what to say against a global family of peace loving worshipers.

Ọmọ Jesus is right when he said:

“When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it passes through waterless places in search of a resting-place and finds none. Then it says, ‘I will go back to my house from which I moved,’ and on arriving, it finds the house unoccupied but swept clean and adorned. Then it goes and takes along with it seven different spirits more wicked than itself, and after getting inside, they dwell there; and the final circumstances of that man become worse than the first. That is how it will be also with this wicked generation." Matthew 12:43-45

Jehovah's Witnesses have removed one demon in this guy's life but due to his idleness the demon has returned with deadlier demons plaguing him day and night so he has become so useless that all day long he's busy thinking about what next to say about God's people even after all his audience cheering him have left him!

Aemmyjah:
Very bitter person
No joy
No hope
No future
Just mindless and lost and asking foolish questions and never learning

That's what hopelessness does to people, they will become joyless without anyone to share their time with unlike believers that are filled with happy moments always sharing their hope with fellow believers {Hebrews 10:24-25} that's why they are filled with bitterness so anytime they come in contact with happy people these sadists feel like hurting them!

Steep:
Then why is it difficult for you to answer my questions? You claim that the word Lord used was changed from Jehovah to Lord, the question is give me one older new testament manuscript that has Jehovah in it?

Psalms 110:1 is enough to help any researcher who is sincere and honest hearted:

This is what was written in God's word:

Jehovah declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet" Psalms 11:1

In the Hebrew Aramaic scriptures the name JEHOVAH was presented in four consonants "YHWH" so in your own copy of the Bible that name was replaced with the title "LORD"

So instead of what the New World Translation wrote above your own version of the Bible will say:

"The LORD said to my Lord, sit at my right hand"

Apostle Peter confirmed that David was talking about Jehovah and Jesus so if you're not convinced that the version you're using can't help you get accurate knowledge of God's word that's your cup of coffee.

Go and WORK with your fellow trinity worshipers in doing God's will!

Steep:
Meanwhile your questions are pending.
atleast present one, just one is enough.
So far you have not being able to prove anything, I have clearly presented scriptures to you, showing you that Jesus is truly God and truly man.8 I showed you Daniel 7 vv 14 where Jesus recieve service that is meant only for the true God. Shown you that Jesus has absolute power, I have also shown why Jesus called a servant which is because he took that form willingly. I have also showed you where Jesus is prayed to by Stephen, Paul and entire Christian church. This is enough evidence for now.

The purpose of scriptural backing for whatever Christians are doing is to prove that they're WORKING towards God's will as a group so if you're sure of what you believe go and WORK with those having your type of faith! James 2:18-26

Aemmyjah:
Yes, a sin to answer fools
Attention seeking fools like you

He is really bitter in his heart the smileys are just a cover up to pretend he is enjoying the discussion but if you can read his heart through what he's typing you will pity him {Luke 6:45} because he really really needs help!

Courz:
I told you that you can't resist this thread. You will continue to find yourself here as your Satanic Watchtower is being Exposed. More and more Ex Satanists exposing your Cult. Your Curiosity will keep bringing you here. You will never have peace of mind because of this thread. I told you, didn't I?

It's just a pity that you've been given a job that keeps you busy all through your life so that you don't even have time to think about yourself all your head is filled with materials from apostates.

This is really bad as in just too bad, i hope you get well one day because you have no life with the way you're always going up and down just to malign a single group when there are tens of thousands out there!

civboy:
So, if you ever got bad luck from fornication or know someone who did, how did it pan out when you (or they) stopped? Did life go back to normal over time? Did good luck return after a while?

Consequences both physical and spiritual are tied to sex that's why God warned Israelites to desist from fornication (premarital sex) and adultery (extramarital sex) it involves a blood covenant between the two parties they are one in the sense that each time they come in contact there's this magnetic force reminding them of what they both had willingly.

In most cases many can't survive it as the result continue to plague them for the rest of their lives but when you become a Christian you can be rest assured that God has erased the spiritual implication as long as you repented and desist from engaging in those things {Psalm 103:12-14} as for the physical it's like a stigma that one must live with for the rest of his or her life but since the world finds nothing wrong with this acts it becomes easy to go back to it that's why you need a spiritual family of believers that will continue to help you in standing firm! Hebrews 10:24-25

Janosky:
The Hebrew word translated "Serve" at Daniel 7:14 (H5647) meaning respect/admiration )& Deuteronomy 6:13 (h6399 meaning Worship ),have different meaning.

There's no reason arguing with him as long as Jehovah and Jesus are separate beings and Jesus worship Jehovah case closed!

Dantedasz:
OP,Does this sound logical to you. This cannot even convince a three year old child.
How can this mumbo-jumbo be the answer to why the god in the old testament is different from the god in the new testament of the Bible? This is how they drive believers to atheism and to become agnostics with their zero answers.Why not keep quiet if you do not know the answer to a question?

Please compare the above to the below:

Dantedasz:
Thank you for your maturity madam. The answer to your question will be provided tomorrow morning. I am currently occupied. You may like to call those passing insults to join tomorrow morning. They might learn something if they stop threatening fire and brimstone and eternal burning in hell fire.

The first post supposed to have suggested that you will contribute tomorrow when you're less busy not attacking others asserting they're not making sense.

Note that the OP claims she's a believer so what she wants to know is why there's a change in the way the God in the Old testament deals with evildoers and the way God dealt with evildoers in the new so coming to tell everyone God doesn't exist can't be the answer o!

TheMadame:
I did not leave because of the answers. I left because of the toxic nature the thread was developing into. Let us have a matured discourse, devoid of insults. Let everyone be free to put out their answers and let us discuss it without abuse. If you have the answer to the questions in the OP give them to us,instead of attacking those giving their answers. Thank you in anticipation of your answers.

See sound reasoning!

Someone asked a question and you feel there's no answer but instead of asking what seems confusing to you in the answer others have you started insulting them anticipating that no one should attempt the question.

Does such attitude show any sign of sanity?

Offpoint1:
If it was the Bible that convinced about who God is, then you have no clue of who God is.

Guy ask your question and let's see how sound your IQ!

The Bible is God's word and i'm ready to teach you how to make investigations when matters that's complicated arises or are you scared of knowing the truth?

Come on ask whatever question comes up into your mind after all you believe in sound reasoning!

vdestro:
He knows he is condemned already and that his matter is over but just like satan, it is most painfull to them to see other people escape the same damnation that destroyed them.
This is why they have to do everything and say anything just to ensure that many people be destroyed as they have.
See how all he has been doing here is to discourage and weaken the op by saying that no one will answer her question and attacking whoever tries to answer it

People with good hearing conditions talking then a deaf ran in complaining that he can't understand what they're saying, abeg how can he understand when he's deaf nah?

Dantedasz:
Answer the simple question in the OP. So far your answers have been disgraceful. Two pages so far and NO reasonable answer to a verysimplequestion.

Why not allow the OP who claims to be a believer respond to my post?

Why must you always run to believers thread like a hungry goat?

I have tried to wrap my head around your case but it's getting complicated by the day!

Let's assume i want to reason along your line of thought: You say what those claiming believers are sharing among themselves is like excrement to you so you're always irritated when we're sharing it among ourselves but to my shocking surprise you're still coming to have a taste of it each time it's served!

Ọmọ go and check yourself!

Dantedasz:
Go and knock more doors,you might be able to sell more copies of Awake and Watchtower.

My Faith nah!

But you, what exactly are you doing on this thread and most importantly why mentioning me after typing this:

Dantedasz:
At the emboldened,
What I know about organised religion,in my little finger(pinky) is more than what you know in your whole body. My last response to you.

Better humble yourself and learn because real atheists don't go about worrying themselves over what believers are discussing, they truly truly believe in their hearts that all what we're discussing is absurdity {1Corinthians 2:14} but if you're always here with us then you're not really sure of yourself!

vdestro:
Saying my answer is weak without you pointing out the flaw just proves that my answer was perfect and you could not find any reasonable fault with it, hence you spoke emptily and you are just being a devil come to prevent people from understanding God.

He is a restless religionist claiming atheist!

This is what he told me after a long debate:

Dantedasz:
At the emboldened,
What I know about organised religion,in my little finger(pinky) is more than what you know in your whole body. My last response to you.

So i believe he will never ever quote me again only for him to come quoting me after what he typed.

Ọmọ atheists are useless, worthless and hopeless fools who aren't men of their own words!

Dantedasz:
Hilarious!!!
Responding to this will be a waste of time and effort. Bye.

Thank God!

Atheists now know they have no business in the midst of believers!

Dantedasz:
Your answer can not convince a child not to talk of an adult.
Your infantile answer is a serious ridicule of organised religion. Even Jesus would be ashamed of you. If you dont know the answer, just wait for a strong Christian to come and answer the question. You are driving more believers to atheism with this you silly answers.

The highlighted says it all!

This is a matter of BELIEVERS not ATHEISTS!

Dantedasz:
This is even more absurd than MaxIntheHouse2 answer.
Is it a must to attempt to answer a question of which you have no frcking idea of the answer?

Na wah o!

OP said:

TheMadame:
Good day to my brothers and sisters in Christianity. May the Lord be with all of us. May the Lord refresh us and give us the knowledge to attain everlasting life in heaven.

Is this not the same intolerant spirit of Boko Haram?

Must you always jump into whatever believers are discussing with insults and abusive speeches?

Ọmọ let me tell you the bitter truth:
The only reason you're not killing people right now is because you can't find a group to support your evil intentions towards people whose thinking contradicts yours!

Whether they're making sense or not they have the freedom to express themselves after all they're not insulting or attacking you not to air your own opinion so why must you go about insulting others for sharing thoughts?

Dantedasz:
OP,
Does this sound logical to you. This cannot even convince a three year old child.
How can this mumbo-jumbo be the answer to why the god in the old testament is different from the god in the new testament of the Bible?
This is how they drive believers to atheism and to become agnostics with their zero answers.
Why not keep quiet if you do not know the answer to a question?

I believe the OP was addressing BELIEVERS and not ATHEISTS!

TheMadame:
Good day to my brothers and sisters in Christianity. May the Lord be with all of us. May the Lord refresh us and give us the knowledge to attain everlasting life in heaven.

So you're the one killing yourself over what has nothing to do with you since you don't believe in God you have no business coming to this thread!

TheMadame:
Why does the God of the old testament appear to have a different character from the God of the new testament?

I have answered that but it seems you wanted a short answer when the question can't be answered in few sentences.

God is the same Character always it's because most people don't know what Jesus came to establish that's why they think this way.

God will destroy all evildoers so that obedient mankind can enjoy everlasting life in Paradise but before then a case need to be settled:
Will humans do God's will wholeheartedly?
A role model need to set the pace so before the arrival of this role model anyone standing in the way to disrupt God's plan will be taken away fast fast that's why you see God differently in the old testament.

To illustrate: imagine a ruler who wants to save his people from Invaders but the Invaders have insiders working with them so the King was picking up the insiders and killing them, surely anymore who don't know the good will of this king will see him as a monster but by the time peace is achieved in his domain all his subjects will understand that it was the bad eggs he was removing for the good ones to enjoy his rulership!

TheMadame:
It is like you are seeing atheists in your dreams. Check my post history on Nairaland. I always ask questions on religious issues that bother me. I a Christian but I am not a mindless fanatic. I read my bible and ask questions to build my own christianity.
Thanks for your effort. Even though it is not very satisfactory in my opinion. Can you please support with Bible passages?

Many do say i often bombard my posts with too many Bible verses so don't be offended but you can pick any of the points and i will give you Bible passages to prove what i'm saying!

TheMadame:
I don't believe this. Stop generalising.
I am sure someone can explain the puzzle.

I just hope this is not another disguised atheist trying to start a fruitless and endless argument.

According to the Author of the Bible there was a plan to redeem mankind right after the event in the garden of Eden, God's plan was to choose one nation through which a role model will be born, this role model will replace Adam and lead OBEDIENT mankind in doing God's will.
Satan knew the plan all along so he is working round the clock to disrupt God's plan because he knew that if God should change the plan it means God has failed in the process of salvation so Satan keeps misleading the chosen nation in order not to be a good place for the Christ to begin the salvation work.
That's why God was exterminating anyone that may serve as Satan's agent in the old testament as time is going and God is eager than ever to end all badness.
So it's the same God but the reason why He stopped being brutal is because Jesus has come and has successfully commissioned the work that will see millions throughout the earth to God's kingdom.
That's why Jesus was begging his father saying:

Please forgive them because they don't grasp all these arrangement you have put in place to save them! Luke 23:34

In his final message to obedient mankind Jesus said:

“Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this scroll, for the appointed time is near. Let the one who is unrighteous continue in unrighteousness, and let the filthy one continue in his filth; but let the righteous one continue in righteousness, and let the holy one continue in holiness" Revelations 22:10-11

When he was with his disciples in the flesh Jesus told them a parable about the salvation plan how he has come to commission a movement that will gather all obedient mankind under one umbrella, but Satan quickly implanted his agents right in the midst of Jesus' movement so the angels in heaven who knew the implication of Satan's agents asked Jesus if they should swing into action to start exterminating anyone who will serve as Satan's agents within the movement but Jesus told them to allow all to grow together after all God has poured out His active force which will continue guiding faithful people but when it's time to destroy Satan's agents Jesus will lead the angels in heaven to separate the weeds from the fine seeds the fine seeds will be stored up in Jesus' ban while all the weeds will be burnt up! Matthew 13:24-30

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Offpoint1:
A "Living Proof"? Which of the Bible precisely?
I don't take people who know God through the Bible seriously, they are like minions/puppets who are being controlled. I have zero knowledge of who God is and please answer which of the Bible?

I was like you before but i made a thorough research asking questions to be sure i'm on the right path.
I know you will be expecting some deluded churchgoer who will tell you they heard God's voice or saw something but that's not my own case it's the was how the Bible God introduced Himself and His works that convinced me He is the Creator!

Maynman:
Messiah means the anointed one, and it has to be anointed with LITERALLY OIL, there are many messiahs in the tanakh.

This is true!

Messiah means anointed one but unlike all the other anointed people in Israel who anointed Jesus of Nazareth?

Secondly there are two types of anointing:

Anointing of a King, all Israelite kings must be anointed by God's representative.

Anointing of the High Priest, all high priests in Israel must be anointed the same way Aaron (the first Israelites High Priest) was anointed.

So who anointed Jesus and for what purpose?
As a King or as the High Priest?

That is what made his anointing extraordinary and he told his listeners that even though John the baptist was the greatest of all men born of women (meaning excluding Adam) his disciples will be greater than John the baptist.

WHY?

Because they will be anointed the same way Jesus was anointed: through the Holy Spirit!

Didijiji:
Of course That woman wouldn’t have been the only one who had faith there or had the highest level of faith amongst the multitude!

I disagree with you on this!

Note that what everyone has heard so far about this young man is that he is the one who do touch people and command sickness to vanish in the patient's body but in this case the lady didn't want to offend the prophet of God. WHY?
According to God's law a woman menstruating shouldn't come into the congregation of people she must keep herself somewhere until her period is over {Leviticus 15:25} now this woman wanted to keep her shame away from the crowd so the only way she could do this is by tapping from the power of God that's in the prophet's body just as a dead man was resurrected simply by touching the dried bones of Elisha. 2King 13:21

So she was convinced in herself that if this prophet is as great as Elisha the same thing will happen and her faith in the God of Elisha made her well! Mark 5:34

Please there's no mystery in this as you can see that we're talking about the Israelites here people whose ancestors have had lots and lots of experiences with the true God so such can't be a mystery!

Juicedrinker:
Thanks for your comment. I agree that true be true that “true religion” cannot be used as a tool for power. If by true religion you mean people with similar spiritual views coming together to deepen their views and aid each other on their spiritual journey then 100% I absolutely agree. However, I don’t see much true religion in our world. The religion I see uses itself as a tool for power i.e gaining money, earthly esteem/status and influence, not only by politicians but by the average man too. Think of someone who goes to church and gives much offering not mainly for any noble goal but to show off that he has given a big offering. Many people go to church with the main goal being to show off. There are other examples. Let me not even get to some of this religious leaders. When someone thinks of spiritual values i.e humility, modesty, patience, kindness etc and then looks at religions and sees how they operate, the person will probably be disgusted.

When next Jehovah's Witnesses come knocking your door discuss everything you just said with them i was also shocked when i found out that a religion on this planet could perfectly fit in to all these things you've typed.

For your information it took me three months after attending the meetings of Jehovah's Witnesses before knowing that they do contribute money in fact i was deeply impressed to see how everything fall in place just as the young man from Nazareth called Jesus described true religion.

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Steep:
atleast present one, just one is enough.
So far you have not being able to prove anything, I have clearly presented scriptures to you, showing you that Jesus is truly God and truly man.8 I showed you Daniel 7 vv 14 where Jesus recieve service that is meant only for the true God.Shown you that Jesus has absolute power,I have also shown why Jesus called a servant which is because he took that form willingly.I have also showed you where Jesus is prayed to by Stephen, Paul and entire Christian church.This is enough evidence for now.

Get to work with those having your kind of faith! James 2:18-26

I'm not interested in fruitless arguments {Titus 3:9} if you're truly convinced of what you're saying go and work with those having the same faith with you!

Didijiji:
There is something about the woman and the blood. How can a multitude be touching you and only the bleeding ones touch made you say virtue left you? There is a mystery there

I'm a Christian we don't believe in mystery if faith is based on mystery then it can't be preached and explained the way Jesus ordered us to go and do! Matthew 28:19-20

The woman came with faith that's what is needed to compel Jesus into performing miracles! Matthew 15:28

So the blood is nothing to Jesus it's faith that moves him into action or compels him not blood! Mark 9:23

FxMasterz:
She drained Jesus of power? Show me the verse!!!

Jesus is filled with Holy Spirit so in that case he felt power to heal went out without his consent not that his power was drained that's why he asked for the person who tapped that energy without him issuing it!