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vdestro:Ọmọ that's the main point why i created this thread! The real atheists are the pastors teaching these people heresy that's leading them to making unreasonable demands from God! ![]() |
vdestro:“You must not make for yourself a carved image or a form like anything that is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the waters under the earth. You must not bow down to them nor be enticed to serve them, for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires exclusive devotion, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon sons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation of those who hate me, Exodus 20:4-5 Are you saying EVERYONE knew this first commandment before the Bible got to Africa? ![]() |
vdestro:So do you now agree that they were churchy and what the false prophets you call pastors taught them led to all these? ![]() |
vdestro:So everyone knows that calling upon idols and praying to images is sin, shey? ![]() |
Different religions claiming Christians can never ever be One except those believing in the words of Jesus Christ he prayed for them to be One and they are One today! ![]() |
SIRTee15:I think he quoted what is needed to drive home his point that's why i came in to show you that what you are emphasizing on could also be said about Adam. |
vdestro: vdestro:Ọmọ you know nothing about sin you're just been forward sin is not what those churches told you it's deeper than that! ![]() |
vdestro:Jesus said it is because if they weren't taught like that they won't be thinking that way. That's what Jesus meant when he said "by their fruits you will know them" {Matthew 7:16} The fruit here connotes what results from the teachings of those false prophets, if they are good trees they will yield positive results {Matthew 7:17-18} no JW can say he's expecting God to favour him in this trouble world because Jesus never taught us that we will be favoured materially speaking during the last days! ![]() |
SIRTee15:I just quoted the NWT (JW Bible) |
talented321:You're welcome! |
FreedomfromtheT:So all believers have access to God's underserved kindness. FreedomfromtheT:NO you misunderstood us. What we're saying is that all humans are sinners that's why we are dying! Romans 5:12 |
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SIRTee15:It's not forgery in his own version it wasn't interpreted like that: He is the reflection of God’s glory and the exact representation of his very being, and he sustains all things by the word of his power. And after he had made a purification for our sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high. The same could be said of Adam the son of God! Luke 3:38 |
talented321:The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob never had a covenant with any other nations so your people are free to make any claims they like. All other gods are fallen angels so they have what it takes to neutralize their potency when it comes to acting, back in those days it's your own people who were traitors that told the white man what to do so that those gods will abandon their worshipers and make them vulnerable to attack from Invaders. For instance in my own village some 40 year ago something happened that i will like you to learn from. My village in Ogun state is under the watch of 5 deities that are destructive but if you come into our village with bad motives they will not hurt you in the day when everyone can see you so if the villagers themselves allows you to steal or take anything while they're there the deities won't do anything. But do not try that when everyone has gone to their farms! ![]() Because if you do the deities will harm you no matter the type of weapons you come with! During a civil war within Abeokuta soldiers sent to our village got to a point where palm trees were used to block the road, so they came down from their trucks and cross over the palm trees after crossing anyone that takes five steps forward must have come with great charms because they were falling like palm trees and dying instantly. Only their commander got back to Abeokuta and he died after delivering the message that the village is a no go area. So back to my story! Some thieves came one night while everyone was asleep and they stole lots of domestic animals like sheep, goats and fowls successfully. Seven days later the chief called everyone to come and swear before the deities that they didn't neutralize the power of those deities each person did except one man who gave an excuse that he travelled and just returned so he can't be the one who silenced the gods but the chief and all the villagers insisted that everyone must swear before the deities. Ọmọ the man died five days later! I just shortened the story because the next day the whole villagers woke up with boils all over their bodies, it was after the man's death that the boils vanished mysteriously. So don't think African deities are powerless it's your own people that always neutralize their power when money is involved! ![]() |
Steep:Ọmọ Adam and Jesus are equal in human nature both of them were images of the invisible God. Luke 3:38 The only difference is that one remain obedient despite all trials while the other gave in to selfishness! ![]() |
SIRTee15:Perfect means created in the image (likeness) of God! SIRTee15:He used terms that you're not familiar with so he is correct you just misunderstood him. SIRTee15:May you have PEACE! ![]() |
NotChildofDoom:You need to know what a Christian means only then can you make use of your power of reasoning as a believer. Satan has set lots of traps and many are falling into it only believers can escape. So find out what being a Christian means that's the only saving grace you have! ![]() |
ThothHermes:The greatest sin is to support any as in ANY POLITICIAN! |
Wait o! ![]() Are you saying people shouldn't wait anymore for the perfect teacher? ![]() bobestman: |
SIRTee15:As a perfect human like Adam {1Corinthians 15:45} Jesus is the radiance of God's glory {John 14:9} had it been that Adam didn't fail in his own test against Satan we won't need Jesus at all on this planet because Adam was made in the likeness of God {Genesis 1:26} that's why God's word said all humans who are supposed to be radiance of God's glory have fallen short of God's glory due to sin inherited from Adam {Romans 3:23} so don't let anyone deceive you with letters Jesus is God's son just as Adam is God's son! Luke 3:38 |
Aemmyjah:They formed their own gods of silver and gold {Psalms 115:4} then choose teachers to teach them according to what they have in their hearts {2Timothy 4:3} and after they've been disappointed they will expect everyone around them to share their pains! ![]() |
FreedomfromtheT:So if it's through one man (Adam) all mankind became sinners and through one man (Jesus) all will be made clean, what makes you feel that others don't have access to forgiveness? ![]() For just as through the disobedience of the one man many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one person many will be made righteous! Romans 5:19 |
bobestman:This is what you said everyone should do but i wonder why you're now resuming the office of the coming Christ whom you said will TEACH all mankind. So take your own advice and "Wait for it" ![]() |
bobestman:Why not wait for the person you said will later come and spread the knowledge? I expected you to continue waiting instead of jumping from thread to thread arguing when you have said the one coming to spread the knowledge will later come! ![]() |
FRANCISTOWN:YES! The scriptures confirmed that selfishness in many has led them into creating various gods {Psalm 115:4} so they can't gain accurate knowledge since their gods can't see, talk, walk or feel anything {Psalm 115:5-7} hence those who makes them will become like their own gods! Psalm 115:8 So really spiritual famine is affecting the world {Amos 8:11} so many will be uninformed or misinformed regarding what's happening around them. But what about worshipers of the true God? “Look! My servants will eat, but you will go hungry. Look! My servants will drink, but you will go thirsty. Look! My servants will rejoice, but you will suffer shame. Look! My servants will shout joyfully because of the good condition of the heart, But you will cry out because of the pain of heart And you will wail because of a broken spirit. Isaiah 65:13-14 Though billions worshipping gods created by man will also like to bear the same name with servants of the true God so God promised to kill all of them but before then He will separate His own worshipers and call them by another group name! "You will leave behind a name that my chosen ones will use as a curse, And the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will put each of you to death, But his own servants he will call by another name" Isaiah 65:15 That's why you must keep mute in the presence of the worshipers of the true God: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 54:17 ![]() |
vdestro:Most Bible readers lack understanding and critical thinking skills so when talking about sin they often misconstrue sin with what people do to enjoy themselves. The true God is a happy God {1Timothy 1:11} so He wants His worshipers to be happy {Act 20:35} and as creatures made in God's image humans always love to be happy. But then we need to distinguish between what really saddens God's heart and things we do due to ignorance. For instance our forefathers were worshipers of idols and they don't know anything about God's word other than what the priests of their deities tells them so what will happen to them on the day of judgment since they were doing all that in ignorance? Jesus the son of God answered: “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” Luke 23:34 If we have seen Jesus we don't need to ask again what his father will do in some case where Jesus has told us what to expect! John 14:9 compare to 1Corinthians 2:16 So even though many people joyfully commit what is detestable to God daily they will not be held responsible for what they're ignorantly doing wrongly it's until someone told them and make them understand it's then that what they're doing becomes sin that's condemning them. Romans 10:14 compare to 1John 5:17 That's why you need to distinguish between the sin that God will never forgive and sin that's pardonable! Matthew 12:31-32 ![]() |
vdestro:Who taught them that God grant wishes? ![]() |
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vdestro:First of all you need to know the real meaning of that word "SIN" then we can both check to know how many churchgoers we can vouch for as believers running away from sin? ![]() |
An atheist is that person whose action speaks loudly that God doesn't exist! To illustrate: imagine two young men after they escaped from a band of rubbers they're trying to go back home, both of them hungry and famished so they need to get home to be refreshed. Mr A "don't worry my father's house is very close by soon we'll get home and you will enjoy to the fullest that you won't even remember what has happened" Mr B "oh i will be grateful because i can't even find my way home but at least i will be okay when we reach your father's house" Me A "sure my friend, all our troubles will be gone within a short time from now" M B (smile with excitement hopeful they get to his friends home soon) Then they saw a man carrying loaves of bread attacked by hoodlums and these paupers were eating the loaves right there at the spot hungrily. With the speed of lightning Mr A rushed to the scene his friend was expecting him to salvage the situation and help the hawker but to his amazement Mr A is struggling for loaves some that has even fallen into the gutters and the next thing is he was eating the bread as if there is no tomorrow! ![]() Please if you are Mr B will you continue going with him expecting to reach his imaginary father's house where everything is rossy? That's what a real atheist could mean for you! Many are claiming they're believers in God or Christ echoing the words of Jesus "in my father's house (heaven) there are many mansions so be hopeful and have faith that God will save us" But these same people are using the money contributed by others for the purpose of promoting the Good News of God's kingdom to acquire material possessions like mansions, fleet of luxurious cars, private jets and sleeping around with harlots even going to the internet for the services of pornstars! ![]() So between the unreasonable churchgoer who suddenly turned his back on the church due to the WORKS of their pastors and the pastors whose attitude irritated their followers to the extent that those ones concluded that God doesn't exist, who are the real atheists? ![]() |
When the true Christians come to your house just as Jesus commanded them you people will capitalize on what those lying pastors told you and start abusing, insulting even cursing the real messengers of God. So that's what you people want! ![]() |
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