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MightySparrow:
When you mispresent Jehovah you are worse than atheists. My Papa make God real to atheists. You confuse them anyway. Yọu are waiting for the time to come some of us are already enjoying that. Who is a faithless person? The one that deny the Father and the Son.
1John.2.22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Old fool!
You don't even know the application of what you're quoting.
Anyway for the benefit of honest hearted and sincere followers of the thread i will open up.
Antichrist is one who denies Christ's efficacy to counsel imperfect humans and make them do God's will. Do you believe that through Christ's teaching people are fulfilling what is written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:4 today?
If you don't then you're an Antichrist one who disguise as a believer in Christ but denies Christ's efficacy to teach imperfect humans and make them do God's will perfectly!

MightySparrow:
How do you explain, ' taste the powers of the world to come.'

Jehovah's Witnesses believe that in God's kingdom mankind will all live as one global family so we have tasted this as we are one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers as we recognize Christ's brothers {Matthew 25:40} all what is hindering the earth's peace now are none JWs who aren't obedient to Christ's brothers. So when Jesus comes he will kill people like you {Luke 19:27} as you failed to recognize his brothers! Matthew 25:46

GRAILMESSAGE:
I don't understand

Just joking.
What do you mean by LIGHT?

Aemmyjah:
A loving God who does not administer justice to the wicked is not loving but weak
We will be happy if the wicked, corrupt Nigerian Government destroy all the terrorists so that the good people of Nigeria can be in peace but when it comes to God, people find fault when it comes to God and completely ignore where he extended mercy to others including Nineveh even when such action made Jonah angry that he wanted to die

Don't mind the foolish atheist!
So if a president sent soldiers to destroy all the terrorists disturbing the peace of his people such a ruler isn't loving?

FRANCISTOWN:
As a matter of fact, the end time church and believers are ordained for great power, see Joel 2: 1- end

I quote from verse 26- 30

Joel 2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed. 2:27 And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed. 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

That place is not talking about our own time but the conclusion of the Jewish system and it actually occurred in the day of Pentecost! Act 2:

But Peter stood up with the Eleven and spoke to them in a loud voice: “Men of Ju·deʹa and all you inhabitants of Jerusalem, let this be known to you and listen carefully to my words. These people are, in fact, not drunk, as you suppose, for it is the third hour of the day. On the contrary, this is what was said through the prophet Joel: ‘“And in the last days,” God says, “I will pour out some of my spirit on every sort of flesh, and your sons and your daughters will prophesy and your young men will see visions and your old men will dream dreams, and even on my male slaves and on my female slaves I will pour out some of my spirit in those daysand they will prophesy. And I will give wonders in heaven above and signs on earth below—blood and fire and clouds of smoke. The sun will be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the great and illustrious day of Jehovah comes. And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.”’ act 2:14-21

Peter is hereby telling his audience that Joel's prophecy has been!

FRANCISTOWN:
When and where did the Bible say miraculous healing will cease in this age?

Not in this age but after Christianity has been established in the first century!

1Corinthians 13:8-10

FRANCISTOWN:
Oyedepo Who got caught up in the Buhari vs Sudanese Jubril's gigantic swindle's case.
Person wey God no fit tell , whether na real Buhari abi na fake.🤣🤣🤣

Ọmọ there is no miracles again in Christianity people like that man are just deceiving their gullible followers with magical acts!

FRANCISTOWN:
Nigerian pastors are the most useless

They are practicers of magic and magic can't be programmed to fill in a purpose for which it wasn't meant. Fallen angels behind it only want to entertain their audience not to heal them!

FRANCISTOWN:
There is no proof of anything supernatural. So I do not believe in them

Hmmmm this shows you're a real black man!

Because the undeniable attribute of a black man is his gullibility to swallow hook line and sinker whatever he's been fed.

Ọmọ even your white supremacists that brought atheism to you knows there are Witches and they possess supernatural powers.

So don't allow gullibility to send you to an early grave because you won't live to tell after you've been dealt with by Witches!

jmoore:
Those clowns and atheists have a big gap in their soul. They are only living in denial. Always roaming about in the religious section.

The Bible said it all!

In the last days people will be hungry and thirsty for God's word {Amos 8:11} that's why many are found on the religion section of this forum, what really baffles me is how someone with working brains could say he has left religion yet always found in the religion section of a forum that has lots of sections he could be chatting with others like himself!

MightySparrow:
See delusion of infinite dimension. What is the justification to your 144,000 anointed claim.
Explain this.
Hebrews 6:5
[5]And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

Bàbá the atheist here wants to be convinced fully that you have TASTED it so he's asking you to take him to your Papa along with those he will like your Papa to heal miraculously.

Stop mentioning me you and i aren't on the same page!

He is Holy (pure in all respect) so YES he is justified!

What is UNAFRICAN RELIGION?

Aemmyjah:
Epic words
He himself knows his pastor will disappoint him and his friend neither can he recommend any pastor, not even one of all the thousands of pastors in Nigeria who perform 'miracles'

My brother this guy is a grandpa o!

He's in his 60s if not 70s yet he is deceiving his own soul with lies just because he wish Jesus to perform miracles in support of his Papa (Oyedepo)
So even after strictly warning him to stop mentioning me he's not comfortable with the truth always quoting me asking questions but i keep telling him to go and ask his Papa since he feels i'm just a student of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses who isn't qualified to teach!

MightySparrow:
So by your explanation you can cancel the healings of those already healed,, shey?
Paul was wrong, Peter was wrong.
JW has produced many wrong persons, you are a chief among them.

Jesus cured many but emphasized that such gifts are reserved for the benefit of Israelites! Matthew 15:24

WHY?

Because they're the ones to take the good news of God's Kingdom to other nations telling the gentiles all the great works the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has been doing in their midst. Matthew 10:6
But the Israelites rejected Jesus that's why the opportunity to be part of the first fruit in God's kingdom was opened to gentiles {John 1:11-12} otherwise only Israelites supposed to make up the 144,000 corulers {Revelation 14:1} with Christ but due to the failure of Israelites to embrace Christ it was given to people of other nations! Matthew 22:1-14

So by the time Christianity was born only few Jews embraced it just a few thousand when God's Holy Spirit was sent to anoint 144,000 Israelites the spirit of God only met 120 in the upper room {Act 1:15} that's why God's Holy Spirit was poured out quickly on thousands of Jews on the day of Pentecost because the invitation is much but those responding were few. So when gentiles began embracing Christianity the Spirit of God continue it's job anointing them as members belonging to the first fruit of God's Kingdom.
But then the power to perform miracles wasn't given to gentiles because they weren't the real invitees, that's why Paul told them not to expect what God never promised gentiles! 1Corinthians 13:8-10
You can continue with your insults one thing i won't stop telling you is the truth:
Bàbá, God never promised gentiles miraculous powers that's why you can't see any man of God performing real miracles but if you're still in doubt answer the atheist he wants to help real lepers, blind, deaf, dumb and lame ones in his domain don't worry about the cost of transportation he will pay to get them to your pastor who is performing REAL miracles!

If truthfully you've LEFT something i believe you shouldn't be found anywhere close to that thing but here you are always on the religion section of a forum that's full of different sections when you could actually be chatting with others on gaming, tech and food without having anything to do with religionists!

The secret behind supernatural gifts!

There are many Gods {1Corinthians 8:5} but only one true God and Creator of all things {Psalm 83:18} all other Gods are fallen angels desperately looking for worshipers whoever is ready to obey them they are ready to support such a person with their powers since these fallen angels aren't the true God, but the one and only true God is consistent so He doesn't work with confused people {1Corinthians 14:33} that's why He wants His own worshipers to be informed so they can be well organized.
So worshipers of false Gods today disguise as representatives of the true God just as their Gods (fallen angels) have disguised to mislead them {2Corinthians 11:14} if you ask them any thought provoking question they will tell you their God works in mysterious ways but in reality they don't know that they're worshipping demons that's why they are confused as to how these demons do operate!

Misinformed, deluded, arrogant, unquestionably stupid and idiotic churchgoer expecting a reply from a sound Bible scholar!
Keep waiting for reply o!

FRANCISTOWN:
I'm glad this demystification is coming from a christian 🤣🤣🤣

Well that's the work Jesus gave his disciples to speak the truth at all times even if it doesn't go down well with Satan's agents!

FRANCISTOWN:
Several Pastors, Alfas, Sheikhs, Imams, clergies l, herbalists, witches and wizards parade themselves to be workers of miracles but in reality. None

Sorry, Alfas, Sheiks, Imams, Herbalists Spiritists, Witches and Wizards aren't lying when talking about supernatural gifts in them but as for believers in Christ Jesus he emphatically said such gifts from his own God and father are reserved only for the descendants of Jacob (Israel) Matthew 15:24
That's why you can never ever find one single gentile using the name of the God of Abraham to perform any sign in the Bible!

MightySparrow:
I don't know how you find it easy to twist God's word to please your deluded GB and deceive you ignorant followers!
Matthew 15:22-28
[22]And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
[23]But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
[24]But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
[25]Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
[26]But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
[27]And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
[28]Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.



With persuasion, He healed her daughter. He refrained because the time of gentile was not yet come. Galatians 4: 4. Later Peter raised Dorcas from the dead, Many were healed by Paul in his journey to Rome. The Apostles were wrong but deluded JWs are right? You are a mumu soldier.
Besides, Matthew 15: 24 is not talking about spiritual gifts but healing to gentiles before inclusion into commonwealth of Israel. Eph.2.12 - That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph.2.13 - But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Eph.2.20 - And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
I am very convinced you JWs don't understand Christianity and have nothing to teach any reasonable, knowledgeable believers who can study the Bible by themselves.
Proof from Matthew 15: 24 that Jesus was talking about spiritual gifts. You are a mumu.
Jehovah's False Witness.

She is not an Israelite!

Leaving there, Jesus now went into the region of Tyre and Siʹdon. And look! a Phoe·niʹcian woman from that region came and cried out: “Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David. My daughter is cruelly demon possessed.” Matthew 15:21-22

The time to heal gentiles is in God's Kingdom not now!
God didn't make any covenant with gentiles so His Holy Spirit only help to organize them for the end time work (if they believe in what has been written that God did in the midst of the Jews) {Zechariah 8:23} so there's no promise of supernatural gifts for gentiles!

I have told you i'm talking about my own God so prove to the atheists that your God still give people power to perform miracles today by taking them to where miracles are happening for real and stop quoting me. My God is not the same as yours you and i aren't on the same page!

Jehovah's Witnesses, my God will continue to bless you guys for locating me!

b3llo:
Why is the argument always between Christians and Atheist Is Christianity the only religion in the world? Why is there less argument and comparison between Atheism and Islam?

Satan knows the religion destroying his works!

MightySparrow:
Yọu can't give a name of a none - jee who baptized? Yọu see dishonesty? Faithlessness?
Yọu are deluded. My own God never changes.
Jesus was not sent to you also? Matt. 15:24.
Your GB had removed your gray matter.

You keep exposing your own ignorance!

Jesus was sent to die and save the whole world {John 3:16} but when it comes to supernatural gifts Jesus said that's reserved for Israelites only! Matthew 15:24

I don't know how that is so difficult for you to understand!

Emusan:
Jesus isn't your Lord and Personal Saviour!

Dogma!

PoliteActivist:
Soooo why did Rome perpetrate the worst persecutions in history in attempt to wipe out Christianity? And why would they create a religion that would supplant their cherished gods and revered emperors?? All of a sudden no one cared about powerful Zeus and started knowing that the emperor was no god!
Make statements that have a modicum of logic

You're a WICKED! WICKED!! WICKED!!! soul!

Why should you ask such a rhetorical question?

Emusan:
It's like you just learnt that word
Meanwhile, meaning of dogma is "a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true."
So is it true that Jesus is your Lord and Personal Saviour?

It's just a dogma!

MightySparrow:
That is is the hypocrisy. Tell us the name of a non - Jew who baptized another in the Bible. No one? No baptism during and after the apostles? Even now?

Before Jesus begin his ministry John was doing that and John never performed any miracles, Jesus' disciples did it when he was alive and he commanded his disciples to continue BAPTIZING themselves until the end! Matthew 28:19-20
So automatically his disciples in other nations must continue BAPTIZING themselves but as for miracles he emphatically said that's reserved for Israelites only! Matthew 15:24

Emusan:
So Jesus isn't your Lord and Personal Saviour....

It's a dogma!

FreedomfromtheT:
You are simply indoctrinated.
It is expressly written in Romans 10:9,10 and implied in others I quoted earlier including Romans 6:23 and John 1:29,36 and 37.
Paul the Apostle saved by Christ Himself was the writer of the epistle to the Romans while John the Baptist was the forerunner of Christ.

Where is it written that Jesus or his disciples asked anyone to accept Jesus as his personal Lord and saviour?

Guy if it's not written anywhere then you should know that you're adding to what's written in God's word!

Emusan:
Reason why you couldn't answer the simple question
Is Jesus your Lord and Personal Saviour?

It's not a reasonable question but an ideology based on dogma!

FreedomfromtheT:
There is no dogma in the Biblical truth that salvation is personal (John 3:3,16,18; Romans 5:18,19).
There is no dogma in the truth that Jesus Christ is the only Saviour of sinners the world over (Acts 4:10-12).
There is no dogma in the Scriptural truth that Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth and the Life and that noone can come to the Father (and His Kingdom) but through Him (John 14:6).
Accepting the truth that you can't save yourself and that only Christ can save you from sin and it's consequences means accepting Christ as Lord and personal Saviour (Titus 3:5-7).
Believing in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the Cross of Calvary on your behalf as basis for your redemption means accepting Jesus as Lord and personal Saviour.
Believing that Christ is the only One that can set you free and free indeed is accepting Him as your Lord and personal Saviour (John 8:32,36).
Except you believe that Christ is the Lord and only Saviour, you will die in your sins the implication of which is eternal damnation (John 8:24; 3:18).
This thread was opened by my humbleself and remains mine.
My explanations here are not for you and the hardened in religious indoctrination but for those who want to know the truth for their own eternal wellbeing.

All these is campaign after election, just quote where Jesus or his disciples asked anyone to accept Christ as his Lord and personal saviour?

I know most of you often echo it without finding out if it's proper! 1Thessalonians 5:21

MightySparrow:
I have said it. You ta mumu soldier.

1 Corinthians 12:1-13
Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.
[3]Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
[4]Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
[5]And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
[6]And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
[7]But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
[8]For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
[9]To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
[10]To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
[11]But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
[12]For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
[13[b]]For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.[/b]


The teachings of Paul and co. were to Jews only. We had Acts Apostles not Acts of Converts. That a record bears the Generals, Colonels, sergeant that trained you in your set doesn't mean no soldiers were produced, none of you ever went to war.

You misinterpreted the Bible to defend ignorance of God not knowledge of Him. In fact you should change your organization's name to Jehovah's False Witnesses.
1 Corinthians 1:1-2
[1]Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,
[2]Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:


Where here is the gift of the spirit limited to Jews?

You mumunity is in tons.

Mention the name of one gentile who performed miracles in the Bible!
If the gift of healing is for everyone that believe in Jesus at least one example should be found in the Bible nah!