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ogunijebu18:
Do you? if you did you wouldn't be arguing with me right now. Cause all of the LIES is eating you up inside.

Well i do all of these as one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

AntiChristian:
How was the virginity test done when the Lord Ordered a Massacre!
Numbers 31:17-18
So now, kill all the boys, as well as every woman who has had relations with a man, but spare for yourselves every girl who has never had relations with a man.
All boys/men were killed.
All women who had previously had sex were killed.
Only virgins were spared!
Numbers 31:35
and 32,000 women who had not slept with a man.
How was this known? Will they have to open them up and use a speculum as in HVS test or what?
I don't have Holy Spirit, Someone with the Holy Spirit should help with the answer!
Bringbackmandat

All they need to do is ask the captives after all they won't tell them what will happen to those who are not longer virgins and those who have been having sex before will come forward first thinking it's time to seduce their captors and probably start a new life with these strong men, while the virgins will be scared since their private part is still intact.
They can also touch them to see who will respond sexually, a virgin will be confused if a man touch her sensitive part while the ones who are use to sex will not feel comfortable.

There are many ways to discern between a virgin and none virgin. During wars soldiers don't kill young girls but those who have been sleeping with men are like a menace because their people may use them as baits to catch or harm invading soldiers.

In one particular area close to Vietnam girls were used as baits and a type of powder was applied on their private part. It doesn't harm the girls but during erection any man that penetrates into their private parts has been poisoned to die within the next 40 minutes after sex with these girls. What really baffles me is how loosed those girls appeared to be so i told the commandant to caution the boys i was thinking their men have laid in ambush but one of our boys said they've cleared the whole area, despite the warning we still lost several boys.

So when i read this particular place in the Bible it reminds me of that experience only girls who are experienced in sexual relations can do that!

Davidsol:
I will like to appreciate @MaxinDHouse's contribution.

But, it seems he hasn't addressed this topical issue amicably.

I asked, "If The Love Of Money Is Sin, Should A Christian Not Love Making Good Money?"

Let's take this instance; I am claiming to be a Christian, even as a successful businessman. I have stated initially that "money is the wheel of the gospel" with a Bible in Ecclesiastes 10:19 "Money Answers All Things!"

My candid question; if it's my desire to keep making good money, and be positioned to support the works of the gospel, as a Christian, is it a sin for me to love making good money?

Friends, I'll appreciate you share your thoughts or contribute in this conversation.

The problem is the LOVE to make money!

Jesus taught his they must LOVE making God's Kingdom their priority but the LOVE to make money will serve as a distraction! Matthew 6:25-34

Thanks for your time may you have PEACE!

ogunijebu18:
I never practiced ifa. I grew up in a church as a christian but i don't belive in jesus as god. So im now either an atheist or a jew but i have not studied judaism much apart from reading the old testament. I believe the old testament God is different to Jesus God.

Ọmọ you were a misinformed churchgoer back then not a Christian!

Were you following the orders from Jesus to go out with other disciples preaching {Matthew 28:19-20} from house to house in your neighbourhood? Matthew 10:11-13

Were you known in your neighbourhood as a preacher and teacher of God's word like Jesus taught his disciples to be fishers of men? Mark 1:17

Were you separated from those practicing interfaith in religion {Matthew 16:6, 12} while their teaching contradicts one another?

Can you travel to any part of the earth where you don't have anyone with full confidence that your fellow believers in Christ there will house you? Mark 10:28-30

Do you stay away from worldly political affairs that's leading people to kill people using racism as excuse? John 17:14

Do you wish well for those wishing you evil due to your faith in Christ Jesus? Luke 6:28

If you're not obeying all of these then what assured you that you're not just a misinformed churchgoer claiming Christian without any understanding of what Jesus commanded? Matthew 28:20

ogunijebu18:
We're discussing Christianity not ifa. And you can deny the jesus god connection and pretend like christians don't worship jesus all you want. Delusion is part of religion. Anyone can be called a prophet if they have enough followers. Americans think Trump is a prophet. theres a prophet every other week in nigeria. Religion doesn't make any sense.

So you lied that God revealed himself to you through Ifá?
Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself, i know Ifá very well before i became a Christian so you can't dodge behind Ifá before me.
If you're an atheist come out openly.
Christianity is about knowledge just as Ifá is about knowledge not merely following the crowd without knowing facts!

AntiChristian:
True! Now i remember!

Don't worry i'm here to remind you always!

Obviously you're just deceiving yourself you don't even know anything about Ifá!

For instance do you take the eulogy of ọ̀wọ́nrín literally without allowing the priest of Ifá to expatiate?

ogunijebu18:
Matthew 10:40
New International Version
40 “Anyone who welcomes you welcomes me, and anyone who welcomes me welcomes the one who sent me.

Whatever treatment you give to the messenger of Aláàfin is what you would have done to Aláàfin. That's what Jesus meant here!

ogunijebu18:
John 8:58 “Jesus answered them: ‘I solemnly declare it:
before Abraham came to be, I AM.”

Jesus is hereby telling his listeners that he existed before them (in the spirit realm) doesn't mean he is the God who sent himself.
Moses was also called God yet he's a servant of God {Exodus 7:1} that's why God promised to send another messenger like Moses who will be a prophet and at the same time a God in their midst! Deuteronomy 18:18

ogunijebu18:
John 10: 30 ”The Father and I are one.”

Jesus simply means he has the same line of thought with the one who sent him.
In another verse he said:
"I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one" John 17:22
Does the being ONE mean that his disciples are the God who sent Jesus?
I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one
John 14:8-11 “’Philip,’ Jesus replied, ‘after I have been with you all this time, you still
do not know me? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show
us the Father’?…. Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me, or else
believe because of the works I do.’[/quote]Jesus also promised to be with his disciples {Matthew 28:20} does that makes his disciples the God who sent Jesus?
If you truly knows Ifá do you think the spirit of Ifá isn't with it's priest?

Ọmọ you need knowledge so calm down and learn!

ogunijebu18:
2 Cor. 4:4 “Their unbelieving minds have been blinded by the god of the present age
so that they do not see the splendor of the gospel showing forth the glory of Christ, the
image of God.”
John 10:37 + 38 “If I do not perform my Father’s works, put no faith in me. But if I
do perform them, even though you put no faith in me, put faith in these works, so as to
realize what it means that the Father is in me and I in him.”
He is saying he is God. Hence why the jews don't believe in him as a messiah.

You can be easily scammed my friend!
So if you hear the eulogy of ÈJÌOGBÈ you won't wait for a real ifá priest to expatriate further for you to gain knowledge?

Why not ask for the meaning of what you quoted first before running to a conclusion?

AntiChristian:
Fair enough!
I just need to have 50 Shekel and I'm good to rape!

Remember you're not in Israel where that could be acceptable as the law, you are in Nigeria where the constitution doesn't tally with that of Israel!

AntiChristian:
So all these explains why 50 Shekels is enough to marry a virgin you raped?
God is wonderful bro!

The amount is worthwhile and it's the official amount he must pay if the father didn't object to their marriage!

“Now if a man seduces a virgin who is not engaged and he lies down with her, he must pay the bride-price for her to become his wife.  If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he is to pay the money at the rate of the bride-price" Exodus 22:16-17

ogunijebu18:
I have read it

If you've read carefully you won't say:

ogunijebu18:
Christianity is jesus worship...

Because Jesus never asked anyone to worship him. In fact he made it clear to his listeners that he's not good rather the one and only good person is God:

Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God" Luke 18:19

So how can he be the one true Christians worship if he's not as good as God?

I won't say you lied but you've been thoroughly misinformed!

AntiChristian:
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
"If a man encounters a young woman, a virgin who is not engaged, takes hold of her and rapes her, and they are discovered, the man who raped her must give the young woman’s father 50 silver shekels, and she must become his wife because he violated her. He cannot divorce her as long as he lives."
What if there were not discovered?
Abeg, how much is 50 Silver Shekels to the Naira?

Note what the scriptures say:
"if a man rapes a virgin"
This means the girl in question has never slept with a man before then so her virginity will be broken and blood will flow from her private part evidence that she has been violated!
Whoever she mentioned at that time will be held responsible that's why it's good to be a man of reputable deeds because if such a man is not then he must pay whatever the father demands as damages but it's left to the girl in question to decide whether she will marry him or not then he has no right whatsoever to give her a divorce paper.
So why did God specifically emphasized on VIRGIN?
Because a promiscuous girl who has been sleeping around may choose to hook herself up with a good and innocent young man so it may be a set-up therefore if she's known in the neighborhood to be a promiscuous girl she can't make such allegations.
Moreover two witnesses must be there hearing her screaming and calling for help they will stand as witnesses against the rapist.

But God is merciful.
Before a young woman can be alone with a man something must have been going on between the two of them perhaps she's been collecting money from him but the young man discovered she's not ready to marry him so if out of frustration he forcefully had sex with her he's already prepared to marry her that's why God allowed him to pay whatever the father demands. Now that they cunning girl has paid for all she's been collecting from him with her virginity she has no other option than to marry him because Israelites won't marry her in that condition most especially where there are witnesses that will tell her suitor that she's was extorting money from the man who violated her.

ogunijebu18:
Christianity is jesus worship...

You've been totally misinformed!

I wonder how you will fare in the religion you choose because ifa is about knowledge not just what people say.

You don't know what Jesus said yet you're running to conclusion on what people do.
What if someone tells you ifa is a lizard simply because he found some people claiming ifa and worshipping lizard will you agree with them?

MightySparrow:
Hahaha. I am laughing in JWs'paradise language.

See how useless Oyedepo has made you.
People are making meaningful comments that's noteworthy all you can do is troll just to spite whoever disagree with your Papa!

MightySparrow:
Ko
Hahahaha.
Hahaha

Oh you've been silenced shey?

That's our heritage: shut the month of faithless miscreants! Isaiah 54:17

ReacherSaidNoth:
Jesus is only special in the minds of people who want imaginary friends and also to those who study mass delusion.

Objectively speaking, his teachings were nothing but jewish propaganda. There have been much wiser men who have walked the earth.

Wisdom is the practical application of accumulated information which yields lasting benefits.

Please can you mention one man who proved to be wiser than Jesus of Nazareth in human relation and what his wisdom has achieved that's beneficial to mankind regarding peaceful cohabitation?

MightySparrow:
Hahaha. Are you totally free from your accusation?
Professors can believe anything so far it is religion. Secular, scientific knowledge and others are downplayed for religion.
A Muslim professor of medicine and biological sciences believe against his professional knowledge that sperm comes from the backbone of man!
Your professors are deluded by the assertions of illiterate GB.

I always choose those i engage in discussions not faithless miscreants like you who is totally empty upstairs and not ready to admit your ignorance.
Below is evidence that the OP has noticed that Jehovah's Witnesses have something tangible to offer when talking about FAITH.
He asked a question and listed names of those he like to LEARN from and the first two names on his list are:
Janosky
MaxIntheHouse
the two are students of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.
What happens to your Papa Oyedepo and his church?
There's nothing to learn from your Papa that's why you and your Papa aren't remembered when honest hearted and sincere individuals are ready to learn!

Mikel99:
Janosky
MaxIntheHouse
Righteousness
TenQ
Truthfulness
I need your good opinions on this matter.

ogunijebu18:
Your Bible came from the white man during slavery. God revealed himself to us through ifa. I’m not worshiping Jesus

First of all my own copy of Bible came through the preaching and teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses i wasn't a Christian till they preached to me so you're wrong Sir.
If your God revealed himself to you through ifa it still boils down to the same point:
You believe in unseen supernatural beings which most scientists object to therefore you have a job to do: convince them your god exist.
Finally we don't worship Jesus he is not our God.
Thanks!

ogunijebu18:
Science is backed by proofs unlike the Bible

Can scientists perfectly predict how people will do things in the next one week?
Well the Bible perfectly predicted what humans will be doing in our time since thousands of years ago!

Moreover when scientists thought nothing can stand on it's own without something supporting it the Bible teaches:
"He (God) stretches out the northern sky over empty space, Suspending the earth upon nothing" Job 26:7

When scientists thought the earth was flat the Bible said:
"There is One who dwells above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers" Isaiah 40:22

Please what infused in the heads of those guys who penned down those words back then?

Hope they just guess and it later happened to be true after thousands of years that the so called scientists has been saying it's not logical!

Davidsol:
There's an saying from my region "money is the wheel of the gospel."

In other words, the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ will go far and wide if money is actively involved.

The first question I request to ask, is it not christians like you and I that are making good money to support this gospel?

Nobody can deceive God so if you're working with the aim of supporting yourself while doing the Lord's work it's understandable {Act 18:3} but if it's towards accumulating material possessions God knows {Matthew 6:19-21} it's impossible to worship God and riches together {Matthew 6:24} that's what the guy who came to Jesus for salvation lacks, Jesus read through his earth that he's so much attached to riches! Luke 18:18-23

Davidsol:
Brethren, we're in the last days. And there's need for the gospel, just as it was written, to be evidence of reaching everywhere, before the second coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
My second question, which I need you to share your thoughts; would you not see it as a privilege to love making good money and be one of the supporters of this gospel?

God doesn't need your good money if you're not ready to participate in the word assigned to Christians so be contented whatever you have {1Timothy 6:6-10} while making time {Ephesians 5:15-16} to preach and teach {Matthew 28:19-20} in your neighbourhood with Christ's disciples!

We can deceive our fellow man but nobody can deceive God so keep money in it's rightful place if you're part of those God needs to support His congregation will material things it's not by your knowledge or wisdom that will make you rich! Ecclesiastes 9:11

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

frank317:
Can we describe the high cost of fuel a spiritual attack?

YES!
But you won't believe it even with all the evidences before your nose!
God's word foretold that by the time Jesus return to call out all his people who are lost in false religions {Revelation 18:4} he'll ride on to victory gathering them throughout the earth {Revelation 6:1-2 compare to Matthew 24:3} then Satan out of frustration will decide to wipe out the entire human race by creating wars in one place after another {Revelations 6:3-4 compare to Matthew 24:7} then the next thing that will follow is artificial scarcity of food! Revelation 6:5-6 compare to Matthew 24:7

So what exactly do you think could prompt the high price in food items if not transportation?

Ọmọ you can hit your head on the wall or hug a transformer God's word is perfectly undergoing fulfilment {Matthew 24:35} and it's making us feel really glad because we now have the assurance more than ever that our salvation is close by! Luke 21:28

If you like read with your senses if you like ignore as usual others will make the best use of it and their actions will judge you because it's directed to you first! Matthew 13:9

Lukuluku69:
Akinwale of the Jehovah Madness people, I think you had an agreement with your sorry deluded self not to mention nor appear on my mention again?
So, what brought this mention of yours? You don gather small liver?
Please be guided

So you just confirmed what i said that you and i aren't friends but that doesn't make me troll you or your religious beliefs because i have so many good tidings to share with people who are willing to listen. Luke 6:45
You didn't even care to read what i posted all that matters to you is a mention of your name ọmọ calm down it's not by force that you chat with me nah!
I simply told you to preach what your religion has just as i am also doing instead of arguing over doctrines. That's exactly what i'm also telling this Antichrist who claims he's a Christian. So i have nothing against you go and preach what is good about your religion instead of picking up with others, there is freedom of speech, expression, worship and association therefore worshipers of the true God are supposed to be blessed with good tidings not going about provoking others for not sharing their views on religion!

frank317:
What kind of nonsensical nursery story is this. I doubt a 5years old will believe this rubbish. Come are u sure u are a normal adult?

First of all there are well over 8.7 millions of people from all the nations throughout the globe that believe (trust) this. Many of them are professors, scientists, business owners old enough to be your grandpa not to talk of countless youths and little ones who strongly believe these things.
So you're wrong!
Moreover you should go and see a psychiatrist because there is freedom of speech, expression, worship and association as agreed upon by intellectuals throughout the world so it's you that's insane insulting others for simply having a totally different opinion from yours!

TenQ:
Give me just one instance Jesus forbade criticising other people's religion?

“Look! I am sending you out as sheep among wolves; so prove yourselves cautious as serpents and yet innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16

With this you've proven to be an Antichrist!

Are you innocent (harmless) as dove yet criticizing other people's religions for provocation?

True Christians are fishers of men {Mark 1:17} if we're to be offensive how do we catch the fish?

This has nothing to do with the Good News of God's Kingdom that we're to preach, this is why only Jehovah's Witnesses have proved to be real Christians.
Of course people hate us due to our strong faith but we aren't offensive in our approach because we have what it takes to reach the heart of all our audience.
Lukuluku69, Antichristian and many of them aren't my friends here because i always make them know that we're not on the same page but they have nothing as in nothing to say against Jehovah's Witnesses organization.
When it comes to preaching and teaching all religions have their different beliefs that's why Jesus emphasized on the outcome of whatever preaching or teaching you have! Matthew 7:16

That's why we don't criticize because it's not about teaching but FRUIT (RESULT) in the gathering of those adhering to the teaching.

I am only interested in your zeal {Act 18:24-26} but to be frank with you you're not a Christian going by what Christ laid down for us!

TenQ:
"The Enemy of My Enemy is my Friend!"
LOL!
The statement seem very similar to "Birds of the same Feather.."

It's not about enemies or friends but the truth from Jesus of Nazareth whom you're defaming his fine works by going contrary to what he laid down.
So if it's a lie prove me wrong by presenting where Jesus of Nazareth taught his disciples to go about criticizing other people's religions?

ogunijebu18:
Can someone explain what makes jesus special exactly. I really don't understand what is so great about him that he is "alpha and omega." I've tried to believe in it but it all seems ridiculous to me.

I will use an illustration to explain this!

you live in a house and the landlord purposely introduced his son to you telling you to become a close associate of his son what exactly do you think could warrant such an advice? Matthew 17:5

Well majority of the tenants on this planet have made a total mess of God's property {Psalm 24:1 compare to Revelation 11:18} that's why He has the right to tell us how we can live in it and maintain it for our own benefit {Isaiah 48:17-18} He prepared it for us {Psalm 115:16} and ready to give us this place for good! Psalm 37:29

So destructive tenants will surely be evicted for good {Psalm 9:17; 37:9-11; Proverbs 2:20-22} but before then honest hearted and sincere people needs to know the reason for the eviction and how to be on the safest side.
That's what Jesus is all about as he became the world's most wonderful counselor who has led millions living today to start working with God in the restoration of a Paradisiac condition on this planet.
They have settled all their disparities among themselves, diverted their resources into the production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of destructive devices and vowed never to raise weapons against their fellow man! Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3
That's what makes Jesus the greatest man who ever lived!

Mikel99:
Most church goers believe that Hell as a place of torment was initially created for the Devil and other fallen angels for their rebellion against God. Most Christian dominations believe that Hell is located under the Earth. They believe that the Devil and the demons of Hell are responsible for tormenting the souls of sinners in Hell. My question is this- If Hell was created intially for the rebellious angels, why are they not being punished but are instead responsible for punishing others? Since Hell is a place of punishment.
What is the purpose of Hell then?

I have advised you several times to request a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses but it seems you don't welcome the idea. Well Jesus purposely sent us out in search of people like you who hunger and thirst for righteousness but then you must be willing to take practical steps before you can gain freedom from the falsehood Satan has been spreading for thousands of years.

The Hebrews word mistranslated "HELL" is "SHEOUL" it simply means "GRAVE" and just as we all know the grave connotes state of inactivity {Ecclesiastes 9:5-10} so that's what God planned for all intelligent creatures that's proving rebellious!
Nobody goes to the grave until the person expires {Genesis 3:19} Adam grew old, got sick and died after 930 year of his rebellious act {Genesis 5:5} that can't happen to Satan and fallen angels because they weren't made of dust like humans so their own expiration must come due to extermination from the One who created them.
So unlike Adam whose life is sustained by breath and his body {Genesis 2:7} spirit beings can't die like mortal man that's the more reason their own existence doesn't come from birth like Adam's descendants therefore since we were made from dust {Psalm 103:14} we return to dust when we grow old and week then the life force actuating our body return to the Creator who gave it {Ecclesiastes 12:7} in the beginning! Genesis 2:7
Satan and other fallen angels are becoming more and more spiteful now because they can perceive that everything God planned to do for obedient mankind is gradually falling in place:
©Jesus the promised saviour has come and his wise counsel well documented in the Bible.
©Despite Satan's effort to mislead mankind so that nobody follow Jesus' wise counsel a group sufficed since 1914 and what God promised will become possible through Jesus' counsel is working out: Jehovah's Witnesses have formed a global family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3
©They Good News of God's Kingdom is moving fast since 1919 that JWs kicked off with their house to house preaching and teaching like locusts they're covering the whole earth with their message {Revelation 9:7-10} and the angel who has the key of the Abyss is leading them! Revelation 9:11
So Satan and his cohorts are really scared now because they don't what will happen next that's why they're worried over what JWs will say about the deadline. You may be wondering why so many religionists are complaining about what Jehovah's Witnesses say regarding the endtime.
Well they're all under the blindfolds of Satan so he is the one directing their minds towards Jehovah's Witnesses because he knows that's the one and only organization God is revealing Scared Secrets to! 1Peter 1:12

So Satan and his cohorts will perish but they still have few things to do before their final destruction!

gaskiyamagana:
What else do you want me to say after saying that your problem with Allah will never ceases till second coming of Jesus. You want me to eat my words, and continue with your jagons from shallow and myopic reasoning? Impossible!

Anyone speaking abusively about another faith is an Antichrist!

WHY?

Jesus taught his disciples to become fishers of men {Mark 1:17} he strictly ordered them to be wise as serpent and harmless as dove {Matthew 10:16} this means they must be friendly with everyone whose faith totally differs from Christianity! Matthew 5:43-48

So what are these people doing here?

The real disciples of Jesus (Jehovah's Witnesses) always speak friendly with all those that are willing to listen to the GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom but the way these Antichrists are disturbing people in buses and streets saying things that's unfriendly has made most people concluded that Christians are trolls criticizing their faith. 1Peter 3:15
How do you catch fish by being offensive?
So many won't even like to listen to the GOOD NEWS we have!

I was a Muslim by birth but after listening to the GOOD NEWS of God's kingdom i can't just resist the joy that filled my heart knowing God has a prospect for mankind.

I know so many guys claiming Muslims on this forum and we have discussed at length but when they want to speak about Christianity they always refer to these Antichrists because they have nothing as in absolutely nothing to say against true Christians: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Sonofthemoon:
So which God are we to serve brother? Tell me about your God

Due to the hardship and troubles he concluded God doesn't exist or there is no God!