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The truth is no matter what anyone say about God it's a welcome development in any civilized society the best way to handle such case is have the idea that the person or people are talking about their God not yours.

It's even much easier when the book you read differs from theirs and your religion also differ so know that they're talking about their God not yours.

In reality politicians are brainwashing gullible people in the society using different means and religion is a powerful tool to woo followers but wise individuals won't allow politicians use them.

So whether Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism or African religions what any sane individual should avoid is allowing politicians to use you for their selfish ambitions. Your God has promised you what is good if you do the right thing so do it and let others follow their own God too!

This is the result of misconception!

Jesus never asked anyone to worship him and African gods never asked anyone to worship them too people choose to worship whatever they feel could change their condition for the better.
So the ball is in your court!

LAZY NIGERIAN YOUTHS!
Everyone just want to make money even if it's at the expense of someone's life or business.
Well it's not his fault nah Nigeria we dey after all that's how most so called pastors started by attacking one popular person or the other until the general public is force to recognize them.
Miracles no dey reign again after COVID-19 so anyway is a way to trend!

Jesus was a Jew according to the faith of patriarchs like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob but the people who killed him are politically oriented so just as politics comes with works of the flesh murdering faithful people makes no difference to them as long as they're doing it for political reasons!

johnw47:
don't let false jw's paranoia and false accusations and lies, rub off on you
otenearron is not one of those people

johnw47:
otenearron, as you can see, sticking up for false jw's make them even more paranoid and accusing

Why not discuss your Jesus with oteneaaron?

He said your Jesus is a myth but you're OK with his company it's JWs who are doing fine WORKS throughout the earth with our preaching and teaching campaign about God's Kingdom that are your prime enemies.

Your hypocrisy stinks!

This is really hilarious!
After your inquisition to find out something to hold against Max with the below question.

oteneaaron:
I hope you don't mind me asking, but do you have any evidence to prove the above statement? If yes, kindly point me in the right direction. Thanks.

This is how it ends!

brocab:
No one had invited you to be part of any false accusations, you decided to play the detective role yourself.
Max wrote it as plain as it sounds, if you don't understand the word Medium 'then you need to study what it means.
No one is talking about a spirit medium, Mediums sorcerers and divination witchcraft is practice by people who are into the occult's.
Since you are Max's wife: you would say anything to defend your own kind..
Dealing with any type of sorcery is in fact an abomination against God's will.
Mediums are sorcerers, they work on the same lines as God speaks to His people through dreams and visions.
{Joel 2:28} “And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, and your young men shall see visions”
And eventually it get's the Job done, your sons and your daughters shall prophesy into the future-this comes from the Spirit of God, through dreams and visions.
Devil worshipers, are known to fast and pray into the spirit realm to get results from demonic activity against people in genial, it is a known fact, witchcraft have been used against people across the globe-jealously is one of the main factors that have caused healthy babies die through birth, through witchcraft many have committed suicide listening to either music of other types of demonic activity.
God warns us to stay away from divination sorcery Mediums that worship after other strange things.
You can lie against the fact Max visited a Medium: and took the Medium's advise: about Joining the Watchtower, Max said he believes what the Medium told him about who the true disciples are.
Medium's are known to lie against the truth.
{Leviticus 19:31} “Do not turn to mediums or necromancers; do not seek them out, and so make yourselves unclean by them: I am the Lord your God.
Max is classed as unclean, because he decided to visit a Medium, and Max will stay unclean until Max decides to repent and ask the Lord for his forgiveness.
God warns us not to go near them: God knows the dangers it can come against us.
Mediums work on the same principles through demonic host that come to us through dreams and visions.
Why do people see a Medium, to gain access from spiritual host, how do Mediums get their information? by bowing down before their altars, they pray and fast into the spirit realm to get results.
Same method is done in the realm of God-praying and fasting is how people get results from God.
When we pray, there's power.
{Genesis 46:2} God spoke to Israel in visions of the night and said, “Jacob, Jacob.” And he said, “Here I am.”
People who claim they have any type of fellowship with God, do not go to Mediums for advise. Not even Allah would agree with that.

johnw47:
don't let false jw's paranoia and false accusations and lies, rub off on you
otenearron is not one of those people

Walahi talahi enemies of truth needs medical attention!

MightySparrow:
I have never asked any JW's questions here on Nairaland. Stop prizing yourself as someone special. You are not.

With the above you've nailed yourself for good! Anytime you come asking me questions this is what i will remind you so never ask me any question again if truly you're sincere with yourself!

MightySparrow:
Your God is different from the one I am serving..

So there's nothing to discuss with me henceforth!

FreedomfromtheT:
Adam committed the sin of disobedience.
Every sin is disobedience to God's word.

Now do you agree that the first sinner committed a blunder/ error/ mistake by doing what he ought not to do and not all what you listed in your earlier post?

That's the single act that made all humans sinners and death entered into the world through that single act leading to the death of billions both nice and wicked are dying not sparing anyone! Romans 5:12

Ọmọ when a real Christian is talking just humble yourself and learn, sin simply means error and no imperfect human is freed from error what believers have is the saving grace which will be applied as long as a believer is not PRACTICING sin.
But to say an imperfect human will not sin (err) again is blatant lie! Romans 7:15-25

FreedomfromtheT:
"Let your light so shine before men (who don't believe the Bible) that they may see your good works and glorify your Father who is in heaven" (Matthew 5:16).
True Christians are living epistles written for men who don't believe the Scriptures to read and know what true Christianity is.
The believers were called Christians (by non Christians) first in Antioch (Acts 11:26).

Now do you see how you failed woefully?

Jesus was talking to his group not a single man who gathered mugus without making them real disciples to preach and teach in all the nations.

Jesus was addressing a group of men whose works will yield fruits throughout the world as they're making disciples {Matthew 28:19-20} so that people may see the attitude of Christ in those taught by this little group! Luke 12:32

The inhabitants of Antioch call a GROUP of people "CHRISTIANS" {Act 11:26} not a single man accumulating material possessions through the gullibility of his fellow countrymen!

You don't even know the real meaning of sin yet you want to argue!

FreedomfromtheT:
I don't have time to argue with a blind religious sinner leading fellow blind.
A sinner is not yet a Christian and a Christian is no longer a sinner (Matthew 1:21; Romans 6,1,12,14, 18,22;1st John 3:.
The evidence that you are yet a sinner is if you are still telling lies, fighting, hateful, malicious, envious, cursing, committing fornication or adultery, watching pornography, stealing, getting drunk, smoking etc.
Please I am not judging you. I love you. I am not better than anyone if not for Christ's saving grace.
I don't want to you deceived.
The unrighteous (sinners) shall not inherit the Kingdom of God (1st Corinthians 6:9-11).
Let no religious sinner deceive you with vain words.
A new Heaven and a new earth is real and hellfire is real (Revelations 21:1-4, Luke 12:4,5).
If you choose to be deceived, you are not excusable (Romans 2:1).
May God help you to choose the saving truth today in Jesus' name, Amen.

Adam is the first sinner whose sin affected the entire human race, which of the highlighted did he commit?

If truly you know what sin means!

FreedomfromtheT:
May God forgive and save your soul before you die.
A true Christian doesn't accuse people falsely.
There are a lot of genuine ministers of the gospel. Pastor Kumuyi is one of them. A lot of people who are not even associated with anything Bible know this but envious religious sinners will certainly not.

You're just a credulous religionists lying to your own soul!

God's word is the truth according to Jesus Christ of Nazareth {John 17:17} but you are saying those who don't believe in the Bible knows that someone is a minister of the gospel.
Ọmọ how do you come to such conclusion?

Try to make a research on the Hebrew text translated "SIN" before coming to argue.

To help you get the clearer picture:

Who is the first sinner?

FreedomfromtheT:
A mistake is different from a sin. A true Christian is no longer a sinner (Romans 6:1,12,14,18,22).
Jesus came to save His people from their sin (Mathew 1:21).
Make no mistake about it. If you are saved by Jesus, you cannot remain a sinner.
If you are still a sinner, then you are not yet saved.
There is a difference between a saved saint and a religious sinner.
Jesus is ready to save you today (Revelations 3:20).
Please get saved today. You may die tomorrow.
There will be no second chance.

MightySparrow:
Why wouldn't you allow or be allowed others to teach in your kingdom hall.

Simple!
Whoever is not obedient to the GB of JWs isn't worshiping our God!

MightySparrow:
The only thing I found unique about JWs is delusion and that I don't need. I have been reading your publications for decades, engaged your members in discussion inviting them to my house. Yọu are all the same deluded individuals.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm why do you feel like deceiving yourself with your grey hair?

If you're so sure of what you typed here then how come you keep going back to the same JWs asking the same questions as if you've not concluded with them?

Well the greatest crime a normal human can commit on this planet is to lie to yourself, if JWs aren't it any sane individual would have forgotten them long ago but with your attitude it's obvious you just feel like lying to your own soul!

From a logical point of view God has never ever killed a single person because it's sin that's killing them. The true God declared what He created in the beginning as GOOD {Genesis 1:31} so if anyone turns evil then deleting such a person isn't killing rather it's the sinner that killed himself due to his evil deeds.

If you're a landlord who built a beautiful house {Genesis 1:31} and in the agreement form you stipulated that failure to comply with safety measures applicants will be evicted {Genesis 2:17} then applicants messed up your beautiful house {Genesis 6:5} do you think their eviction is your fault?

Negroid001:
Are you a Jehovah Witness?

No he is not!

The phrase "forgive and forget" is common out there but it has no root in God's word.
What the true God requires from His worshipers is for us to meditate more on the good side of our brothers than their blunders by so doing we will get to know that they've been more useful than what their imperfect nature caused.

delkuf:
am sorry for even writing back. Thanks and have a good day

Better!

delkuf:
Is a sacred secret beyond my grasp. It is only a mentally deluded people like you guys will believe that. If you can believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is angel Michael why won't you believe that born of water means water baptism. That is how deep the devil has blinded your mind

Guy what evidence do you have that you know the truth about God other than blind arguments?

Jesus is archangel Michael and i can prove it both in the Bible and realities that everyone can see!

Abraham worshiped a God who claimed and proved to be the Almighty God yet Abraham was so humble that he never tried to rule over others in fact he was anticipating the Kingdom of God where everyone will enjoy equal right under a righteous government! Hebrews 11:8-10
What about those claiming descendants of the patriarch?
Well they're eagerly anticipating their turn to dominate the world since the God of their forefathers has proved to be the Almighty.
That was what made them condemned Jesus of Nazareth and they paid dearly because ten tribes of Israel are lost till today and Arabs tried to still the glory also politically oriented yet America is the chosen nation to rule until God's Kingdom comes for a reason i won't disclose now.

So don't think God who chose Abraham is not the God of all nations He created all therefore we are all His worshipers if we have the same faith like Abraham but as for faithless miscreants claiming Abraham's descendants they will be destroyed for good!

Aemmyjah:
True
It's the silly apostates that say he's deleted
We wish him well but they rejoice
Dementia

To faithless miscreants a member of the GB is all in all. I wonder how Paul could correct Peter who happens to be the Chief spokesman to the first century Governing Body back then.
Paul rebuked Peter publicly {Galatians 2:11-14} but instead of Peter to question Paul's audacity he humbly accepted correction and later commended Paul as his beloved brother! 2Peter 3:15

What apostates don't know is that a member of the GOVERNING BODY can't receive teachings from Jesus it's the body that Jesus deals with not just each of them individually when it comes to teachings they must come together for Jesus to assemble with them {Matthew 18:20} so any of them could commit a blunder just like any one else in the truth.
They are working with the perfect teacher but them they're not perfect!

Ireportlive:
Yes that is exactly what it means... Zam Zam water of Saudi was given to Abraham's son and his mother by the God of Abraham YhWh

Ireportlive:
An Arab and A Jew would actually laugh at you colonised African that think YhWh now belongs to you and not the middleeasters

With this your mindset you should agree that only the Northerners should continue ruling Nigeria forever after all their ancestors were greater by acquiring the largest part of the country!

Ọmọ that was how God dealt with people who had faith in him not their faithless descendants who don't follow the footsteps of faithful Abraham!

Ireportlive:
Oshey.... Abraham spokesperson
Jews and Arab are direct descendants of Abraham not your British Colonialist or Romans European that made Christianity popular

So being his descendants means they have the same faith like him shey?

Aemmyjah:
Bro Morris was not deleted
He's still out brother
Just that he's no longer one of the GB
But we wish our brother well

Of course but even if is deleted that doesn't change my faith regarding God's organization!

Ireportlive:
Till date I still wonder why Muslim , Jews and Christian fight when they are all Abraham faithfuls

Jews and Muslims aren't worshiping the God of Abraham!

Abraham never fought for political reasons so if any religion is fully into politics they're not worshiping the God of Abraham!

SeniorMan715:
They can only astray people that their faith isn't firm and pretends among Jw with their delusions
like my neighbour Temple, he claims he has been in Jehovah's Organization for years yet he doesn't no or understand basic teaching of jw talk more of deeper truths. Running around this forum creating threads asking questions about Jws and their believe.

They don't have a personal relationship with Jehovah what they hold onto is position so once their mentor falls they believe the organization has failed instead of seeing their mentor as an imperfect human they feel he's the model for God's organization.
Just imagine one of them (my neighbour) asked me what i will do now as Anthony Morris (a member of the Governing Body) is stepped down!

He was shocked when i told him i never studied Anthony Morris rather i studied God's word and stood firm for it's fulfilment.
So if Anthony Morris is deleted it has happened before in the Bible and it doesn't make other faithful Christians abandoned their faith!!

Cybertroll:
Here's what I believe, you may not agree (none of my business) but it makes the most sense.

One thing you forgot to add:

"to me"

Your opinion makes the most sense to you!

Negroid001:
Ain't saying any is better, just stating the obvious. Quran is still in the language it was written. That's why it's more accurate.

African researcher!

Negroid001:
Am not a Christian or Muslim. I do a lot of research. Just stating the obvious truth. No cause for argument. Fact remains fact.

You're a typical African so there's no need for arguments!

oteneaaron:
I completely get where you're coming from.
But it seems you might have misunderstood what Max said in that post.
Even though I am vehemently against the dogmas and beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses, I will not be party to false accusations.
I only work with Hard Evidence that can be verified.
The "medium" he spoke about was not a spirit medium per se.
He was actually referring to that his post/thread on Nairaland as the "medium" of communication.
I think you should read it again, carefully.
I hope this helps.
Cheers!

Mr FREEMASON!

So Jesus has anointed another JS as apostle!

Johnson Suleiman
Joshua Selman

OK nah!