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MindHacker9009:
Having your profile name in a topic will make Nairaland great which is similar to what you have said before that having your organisation's head quarters in the USA is the reason the USA is great.

Must you trail me everywhere?
Guy please stop following me up and down i'm not that special, i'm just an ordinary human like everyone else.
Please!

husbandsnatcha:
Now my question is "
[b] A: Why do we keep up to these Religion when it was handed to us in blood?

Those politicians who brought the first copies of the Bible to Africa weren't Christians that's why they misrepresented Christ who taught his disciples to be cautious as serpents and harmless as doves {Matthew 10:16} so wicked people forcing their religious ideologies on others aren't true disciples of Jesus!

husbandsnatcha:
Is it fear of hell fire or what?
Fear of the uncertainty?

As i've said earlier that's not Christianity but politics disguised using religion as cover up.

husbandsnatcha:
You as a sinner Can you place your son in a Gas fire to burn him for 2weeks for raping a girl?

Tormenting living creatures in fire is something detestable to the true God {Jeremiah 7:31} Jesus taught his Jewish listeners in parables {Matthew 13:13, 34} but misinformed religionists took his words literally thereby misconstruing what Jesus meant!

husbandsnatcha:
Why do you still follow whom u have more compassion than?

It's misinformed religionists that misrepresented the true God He is merciful!

husbandsnatcha:
Another question
Since ur soul tells u that hellfire is kept for wicked people, do you think our lord god of mercies compensates the poor masses with heaven and keeps only the evil politicians who made them( poor souls ) do terrible things to feed in hell?

The Hebrew word mistranslated "Hell" is "Sheoul" it simply means "Grave" and all those going there are unconscious in there! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

husbandsnatcha:
just take ur time

Please kindly edit the topic of this thread and remove my profile name i don't like it when Nairalanders makes me look like someone special!

Please!

husbandsnatcha:
Now my question is "

A: Why do we keep up to these Religion when it was handed to us in blood ?

Is it fear of hell fire or what ?
Fear of the uncertainty ?

You as a sinner Can you place your son in a Gas fire to burn him for 2weeks for raping a girl? When Our lord god full of love and compassion has placed billions on eternal fire from time immemorial for lesser offence.

Why do you still follow whom u have more compassion than ?

Another question

Since ur soul tells u that hellfire is kept for wicked people, do you think our lord god of mercies compensates the poor masses with heaven and keeps only the evil politicians who made them( poor souls ) do terrible things to feed in hell?

Didn't see this in time but now i'm at a meeting will respond later

husbandsnatcha:
...My bad again! But I involved them because they made humanity believe Anti-spiritual is spiritual which is mind control mechanisms.
... Oh yeah I believe in it , and it's the righteous way to save humanity . I treasure such moments were humans gather to show love to each other (without being shamed of his/her status like 98% of churches do)to also whisper in each other's ear " being human is a mountain task with love we shall succeed " that's wat i mingled myself with in midst of gifteds and non religious, that's wat Jehovah witness does in a christian manner and they were persecuted greatly by the Vatican and the government . I recorded all persecutions of Jehovah witness , I know if they weren't showing love no one would have persecuted them...now Jehovah witness is now going Unitary ,I wish them luck.

Well even though i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses i still don't want us to discuss about religion but humanity.
So what do you think could make people have this unconditional love and help one another even though the person has questionable lifestyles?

PeterObi4Presid:
Why will any Christian say Prophecy doesn't apply to us?

Supernatural gifts were promised only to the nation of Israel {Matthew 15:24} because they are the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that God made His special possession {Exodus 19:5} the blessings of God's Kingdom must first reach them {Matthew 10:6} and they are to take it to all other nations! Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8 compare to Genesis 12:3
After the ascension of the Christ the promise came to his 120 Jewish disciples at pentecost and Peter told other Jews that the promise is exclusively theirs if they also believe in Jesus of Nazareth {Act 2:39} other nations that attach themselves to this faithful Jews will also be blessed! Zechariah 8:23
But as for the GIFTS of God's Holy Spirit it only applies to the first century Jewish disciples of Christ that's why Paul told Christians in Corinth the gifts they're seeing is for a reason and it will soon cease {1Corinthians 13:8-10} the case of Timothy a first century gentile Christian is an example as he was seriously having stomach ulcer but it wasn't healed miraculously {1Timothy 5:23} because he never walked with the Christ neither was he a Jew!

PeterObi4Presid:
Has the last days Paul talked about ended?

Paul's illustration of a newly born baby is what you need to understand {1 Corinthians 13:11} Christianity was the newly born child that must do the things of a child just as a baby will echo what he hears and touch what he sees this new religion must show it's proof of divine backing for observers back then to know that it's the continuation of the works the God of the Jews was doing before Christ era. But after all the information needed to establish the faith fully has been received the New Born baby stopped childish things.
If someone who witnessed your birth sees you today do you think he or she should expect you to cry or touch everything you can see just as you did when you're a baby?

PeterObi4Presid:
Is there no need for equipping of saints anymore?

Please note that the word rendered "SAINTS" in your copy of the Bible simply means "HOLY ONES"
In each generation faithful servants of God always have assignment given to them that's why it's not all prophets that perform miracles in the Bible because there's time for everything {Ecclesiastes 3:1} so it's not all the Holy Ones (saints) that were given the same assignment. What God's word said about the Holy Ones (saints) in our time is that they will gather faithful people throughout the earth under one umbrella, they will teach them God's word and all those adhering to their teachings will settle their disparities among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against their fellowman! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
So if you have observed the fulfilment of this prophecy but you're still expecting them to perform signs before you believe in them then i'm sorry for you! Matthew 16:4

bobestman:
@MaxinDHouse they didn't only recieve power but also the ability to do the extraodinary/signs and wonders. So if you claim to have the power, where is the signs? Any one can rise and begin to teach anyone who cares like your ignorant Jw's but do they have the personal encounter to do it like Isaiah, Ezekiel or even Paul? They are just running around doing what their Gb said claiming they are fulfilling scriptures. The true sheep are those who hear and recieve direction from God not their Gb. The true sons are those who are led by the spirit of God not their Gb. You are doing the biddings of your Gb not God's. Many who also do the work, how many of them carry weapons? See you are just decieved and brainwashed. Many of the things you argue about are clearly written that even kids can read and correct you. Your delusion has blinded you so much that you can't understand simple things. If you pay attention to the things i teach you, you would have seen that Jw's are only decieving you.

According to God's word the supernatural gifts are for a purpose and that has been met so if you're interested in supernatural gifts go and visit all other religions and you will see them perform wonders but as for pure worship there is time for everything {Ecclesiastes 3:1} this is not the time for that so it has ceased {1Corinthians 13:8-10} so anyone anticipating supernatural gifts before believing what God promised is fooling himself today! Matthew 16:4

HellVictorinho6:
after reading her garbage, u still expect sense 4rm her?

Who made you the judge here?

Abeg park one side i don't want any beggar to disturb me today!

husbandsnatcha:
...you definitely don't understand wat I wrote up there? Tell me the truth so I can come down on my ladder . And don't tell me u will call that gibberish like hellvictorinho6 said ,you know he is a beggar and remember what the fairytale book (bible) said about begging " is better to die than to beg

This is what i expected from you if truly you're ready to discuss outside fairytale books just as you claim.

MaxInDHouse:
I will be glad if you're able to keep your own words, one thing i observed in athiests is trying to set standards for others but refusing to live by it.
So let's leave all religious books and their quotations out of our discussion then rely solely on how much our brains can assimilate and resolve issues without applying force or weapons!

Please don't mention anything found in religious books since you and i want to discuss without having to relate with them.
Can you do just that?

husbandsnatcha:
... atheist don't believe In spirituality but they are spiritually intact than christians .

Please what do you mean by spiritual intact?

If you want to be sincere with yourself ask why are the killers of Deborah Samuel not brought to book since.
In America there is Holiday time for different sects including witches (Halloween) because their government approved freedom of speech, expression worship and association unlike here that gays and lesbians can't make themselves known in the public.
Ọmọ freedom of speech, expression, worship and association must cover all as in all aspects not just selected religions or groups.
For your information it's freedom of speech, expression, worship and association that led to democratic government otherwise some will cut off others claiming they have no right to be a part of their society talkless taking part in their government.
So when i say FREEDOM it's not about partial!

MindHacker9009:
Hmm! But the Nigerian constitution gives you and your organisation the freedom of speech to knock on peoples doors even though they have not consented to such, and for you to tell them about your invented messiah by the Roman empire that has promised His is coming soon for the past 2000 years.

But for your organisation to build a new headquarters in Nigeria to make Nigeria great like the USA you claimed was the reason the USA is great, you have now cooked up your excuse that the Nigeria constitution does not allow freedom of speech
Please quote the section from the Nigerian constitution that will not allow your organisation to build a new headquarters in Nigeria?

Who are these individuals:
Satan, Yahweh, Jesus, Christ?
Aren't they characters in some books?
And please leave the soul/spirit stuff out of our discussion for now since we can't see these things for real neither do we need them in our discussion about life in general.

Please can you be brief as in go straight to your point?
Do you think it's right for people to converge in a place to work towards peaceful coexistence?
If YES please explain.

husbandsnatcha:
... Now this is wat mods surprisingly don't want us to discuss when I wanna talk of the real spirituality outside what Satan aka Yahweh and færalkirin aka Jesus Christ pushed down ur foolish forefathers .
Religion is a mind control or artificial soul programming
What is spirit ? Spirit is soul
What is soul ? Soul is the earthly name of universal super batteries in which reality realm costumes are covered with .
What is the costume ? Costume is wat earthly tiny beings calls body
70ft Super battery blazing with light can be covered by 4ft costumes( that's for those with real spirituality )
Religion kills the pineal gland because a Religious soul has to do exactly wat is written in the bible ,which is mostly wat Satan wants ie worshipping him till u die instead of wat ur pineal gland wants which is making findings , gathering knowledges and seeking truths ! What is pineal gland?
PinealGland is an organ in our super battery that enhances unrealistic situations in a reality realm ,
Religion kills the main brain system, when it frozes it out to ursher in netherrealm brain system on reality realm, what is netherrealm? Hellfire of Yahweh , place of scorpions of shivå ,pitch dark of Allah etc
What is netherrealm system? Fear of hellfire and fear of death .
What is the main brain ? Main brain it's the 80% of a creatures soul system knowledges, wisdom and goodwill attributes are stored in it which grows like an electricity bulb and it gives the pineal gland a good environment to connect with the universal elements manipulating the reality realm.
What is spiritual according to universal standards ? State of unrealistic things done on a reality realm by super batteries who controls their own soul.
Now African Atheists don't believe their is god ( though hunger made them believe so ,give them plate of egusi soup or job and see them kill for Jesus Christ) they hate Jesus and things about heaven and bible( some part of the idiots main brain still wants to make heaven , just scare them with witchcraft they shall shout Jesus come n save me eg hellvictorinho6 somvayina when I talk about African atheists his name always comes disturbing my mind ) , these sets can't be trapped by those who go after Religious ones without the soul of their own.
A strong christian will never dream of OBE, but African Atheists in their shallow brains can witness such , why ? because Religion is against the nature and universal elements manipulating reality realm ,
I don't want to go further.

husbandsnatcha:
African Atheists are worst than Religious ones to my understanding but according to universal standards they have huge edge against christians in things of the spiritual .

Please the highlighted surprised me!

Do atheists also believe in what eyes can't see or easily comprehended like spiritual things?

Demons have prophets and prophetesses but because many Bible readers found the words written in God's word they feel anyone with a copy of the Bible is also a believer in God's word.
Well don't let it shock you because the God of the Bible stopped using prophets after Jesus of Nazareth walked this planet {Hebrews 1:1-2} Satan's workers are now disguising as agents of light {2Corinthians 11:14} called by religious titles found in ancient books {Matthew 23:8-10} to deceive gullible people! Matthew 24:11

bobestman:
You can't teach anything without power/signs -Act 1:8 and being commissioned. It ended with the disciples who were all killed and another gospel fabricated by Rome. You are wasting your time with Jw. They know nothing. Isaiah 2 is at endtime. The signs to fulfil it is clearly written. It for isreal after their restoration - isaiah 11:11-13. After restoration, then the Temple. Zaph 3:9 is about the Branch/Priest who will gather, judge and rule Isreal. The stone is that object held by priest to know God's will concerning any issue. Come 4 lectures

This is what is written in the Bible book of Act 1:8

"But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.”

Power means Energy to do work.
So what work are the disciples of Christ given to do?

"Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things" Matthew 28:19-20

Ọmọ JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are doing this work globally and the whole world could feel their movement despite the fact that they don't apply force or weapons! Zechariah 4:6

husbandsnatcha:
Jehovah witness? Those ones about to turn to Unitarian universalists , you will be left behind African man.


I will give u some challenges starting from this afternoon and no insults.

I will be glad if you're able to keep your own words, one thing i observed in athiests is trying to set standards for others but refusing to live by it.
So let's leave all religious books and their quotations out of our discussion then rely solely on how much our brains can assimilate and resolve issues without applying force or weapons!

SolMaximus:
madness is demonic posession

No, It's brain malfunctioning!
Just as people loose the sense of sight, smell, taste, sound and touch the same applies to the malfunctioning of the brain. It could occur accidentally or through man's blunders.
Demons are highly intelligent powerful beings, they know what to do that will affect man's senses of either taste, sight, touch, smell and sound. When they attack these five senses a human may appear to be walking with his head upside down to the affected patient and his mouth will surely speak of what he's seeing hence others will say he or she is mad!

Do you forget somethings at times?
Do you make mistakes in words and actions?
Do you at times have issues with sight and sound so as not to be certain of what someone said or difficulty recognizing a place you've been before or the voice of someone you've heard before?

These are the effects of sin in all imperfect humans, by the time our sins are blotted out none of these will affect us again, in fact we will see far distance much more than eagles and remember all things just like computer.

Practicing sin differs from someone who is a sinner!

FreedomfromtheT:
No sir.
We were all sinners. The difference is that while I and others have repented and been washed by the blood of the Lamb, some are yet in their sins (1st Corinthians 6:11).
It is obvious that both of us are talking out of personal experiences.
I was once in the pit of sin. But now having been practically saved out of the pit of sin and practically washed by Jesus Christ, my Lord and Saviour, by God's grace, I am no longer a sinner.
However, from your comments, it is clear that you are yet in sin while claiming you have been theoretically washed that is why you think everyone is (Titus 1:15).
Is it not funny when the wilfully blind are trying to lead fellow blind?

FreedomfromtheT:
The reason you and others hate pastor Kumuyi is the same reason Jesus was hated (John 15:17-21).
There is no surprise at all.
It doesn't change anything.

Kumuyi and Jesus?
Well let's just say it's like comparing darkness to light because Kumuyi has nothing as in nothing to do with Jesus Christ of Nazareth!

husbandsnatcha:
Who is a child here?
Their shall be Religious topics on frontpage which most of u Religious people runs from because u can't handle the fact and truth laid by atheists and brain users. All the special treatment u are still going to oblivion.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, it seems you're new here.
Ask all their professors on Nairaland they will tell you about me.
I'm the lecturer they fear mostly when it comes to the matter of faith in God, you may test your IQ with me but before we kick off try not to be abusive because i'm not just one of those misinformed churchgoers that atheists get away with easily. In fact they're scared of me.

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

All have sinned and fallen short of God's glory {Romans 3:23} so through Adam death rule as King over mankind {Romans 5:12,17} whether a person proved to be good or evil he or she must grow old, get sick and die! Psalms 49:7-9

Resurrection is the only hope of seeing our dead loved ones again because God promised to raise them back to life in perfect health! Job 14:13-15

If a person doesn't have anything worthwhile to be remembered for such a person will never be resurrected they're gone for good! Psalms 9:17

But if there are God's servants who will be happy to see such a person brought back to life in Paradise God will raise the dead so as to bring joy to the hearts of His loyal servants in Paradise. So if a mad man had developed a good relationship with God's people before his madness begins it's certain that God will remember him for the sake of His loyal servants whose tears will turn to joy at the sight of their beloved brother in faith who died as a madman! Revelations 21:3-5

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

My Pastor has already summon me over the message I sent to him regarding Trinity.I know it won't be funny

The word "TRINITY" was gotten from pagans in ancient Egyptian, Babylonian and Greek mythology so the committee that established Roman Catholic Church adopted the concept in order to gain approval among pagans but it has nothing to do with God's word Bible!

There are only two persons the Bible talks about throughout the Bible:
©Jehovah the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob! Exodus 6:2-3
©Jesus of Nazareth who is the Messiah sent by Jehovah! Deuteronomy 18:18-19; Act 3:22

God's Holy Spirit is not a person but the energy God uses to accomplish His purposes, it's noticed when God is at work! Genesis 1:2

That's why Jesus told his disciples the two main entities they need to know in person:

"This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ" John 17:3

So it's the knowledge of only two persons are needed for salvation not three, God's Holy Spirit is not a person.

Thanks, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

husbandsnatcha:
Now Religious entities like lostchild and RTID now post about repentance , deliverance against iniquity and marine spirits on romance section what a shame.
Pls light work and brain using is growing in nairaland replace Religion with light work sharp sharp.
Imagine by 8pm we have just 9 religion section members when even pet section has 50 members and family 1000.

Hmmmmmmmmmm, you're really observant Sir but you forgot something very important: Nairaland religious section has turned out to be like their churches, why not wait and see what happens on Sundays?

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES the light of the world!

FreedomfromtheT:
Your own cup of tea.

That's the truth even if you don't want to know!

FreedomfromtheT:
So you now agree that a sinner is not a Christian and Christian is no longer a sinner.

NO!
All humans are sinners whether Christian or not the only difference between believers and evildoers is repentance, believers are washing their filthy garments (sinful nature) in the blood of the lamb {Revelations 7:14} while evildoers continues practicing sin!

FreedomfromtheT:
One of your errors is the fallacy of generalization.
Your above insinuations might be true of fake clergy littered around but certainly and by the grace of God, not applicable to pastor W. F Kumuyi and the Deeper Life Bible Church that God graciously has been using him to raise up since 1973.

Ọmọ Kumuyi is FAKE!

If you're ready to know my reasons i'm also ready to use God's word (not man's opinion) to figure out the truth.

I insist that Kumuyi is not a Christian at all!

FreedomfromtheT:
A Christian (a former sinner saved by grace) belongs to Christ while a sinner belongs to the devil (1st John 3:.
Yes, a Christian can err if he is not careful (1st John 1:7-9).That is an exception not the rule.
On realization and convinction, such a errant sinner needs to quickly take advantage of the window of repentance and grace to receive forgiveness.
There is a world of difference between a former sinner saved by grace who unfortunately goes into sin and a (religious) sinner who has tasted the grace of God in Christ.
Moreover, no true Christian justifies sin.

That's exactly what i'm saying, the little addition is that sin that has not been removed completely is why we are growing old, getting sick and dying.
When God's Kingdom come Jehovah will apply Jesus' ransom sacrifice on all sinners who have been redeemed {Micah 7:19} and He will not recall it again {Jeremiah 31:34} by then He will swallow up death forever {Isaiah 25:8} and no one will say "i am sick" Isaiah 33:24

So Christians are sinners that has been redeemed but until God's Kingdom comes the effects of Adamic sin will continue to plague all mankind!

Caramia2020:
One won't have to click whether he's a Christian before commenting but in a Muslim topic we have swear that we are Muslims before commenting, it's a stupid idea from the idiotic moderators.

The founder of Christianity COMMANDED his own disciples never to use force when talking about the truth {Matthew 26:52} so let anyone say whatever they wish about the truth he said:

'Let the one who is unrighteous continue in unrighteousness, and let the filthy one continue in his filth; but let the righteous one continue in righteousness, and let the holy one continue in holiness. “Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to repay each one according to his work"'Revelations 22:11-12

Aemmyjah:
My King is Jesus Christ
He's my leader in words and actions
You people claim to follow Jesus but are actually hypocrites
Who did you give your loyalty to or OBEDIENCE in the last election?
Who has always demonstrated loyalty to the invisible government ruled by Jesus?
Who preach and teach like Jesus did
Who has been neutral in wars?
Keep blowing hot
Max comments increased your mental BP and Torment

Where there are many and the intentions of all their hearts differs Jesus makes use of parables like dragnets to teach and those with disposed for everlasting life will suffice no matter how hard Jesus' illustration they will pick the treasures and start digging in form of humbly begging Jesus to expatiate further.

Discussing with faithless miscreants who already concluded in their hearts that the truth about God can be found in different religions is a waste of time, once you tell them that truth can only be gotten from just one source their next line of action is to find faults with that one source even though they have no better option their just not open to agreement that the source of divine guidance must be one.

If Jesus Christ is just one person but thousands of different sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines are claiming they are practicing what a single teacher taught any human who feels it's OK has already revealed what he or she had in mind.

Jesus sent us out in search of the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} these individuals are worried over the contradictions in religion so they want to know the one and only approved form of religion {John 4:20} note that their former way of life doesn't bother the teacher because once they're able to know the only source of divine guidance they will humbly submit to the teachings {John 4:29} but faithless miscreants will pretend and continue playing along until they're able to get any reason to support the INIQUITY in their hearts that truth could be found anywhere.
But when they try to sit on the fence wanting to pick few things from different sources so that they're not compelled to submit to any and you tell them it's impossible then they will continue following you everywhere you go just to stop others from listening.

They are not in agreement on how to worship their god even though they argue bitterly at times leading to insults, abuses and curses it's OK to them after all they just want to pick here and there without submitting to any source!

MindHacker9009:
Excuses

Christianity is not about forcing our way when the people aren't welcoming us! Matthew 10:23

Jesus is the Messiah (Christ) God promised the Israelites {Deuteronomy 18:18; Act 3:22} through this man God will establish another covenant with the Israelites {Jeremiah 31:31-33} which they're to take to other nations {Zechariah 8:23} but before then God's people must have laws (rules) that will guide them {Galatians 3:23-24} into the things this promised child will make a global constitution when he begin his rulership {Isaiah 9:6-7} that's why God gave the Israelites laws to prepare their minds ahead for the coming mediator between man and God! 1Timothy 2:5

According to God's laws the Israelites must not copy anything from pagan nations around them {Deuteronomy 12:30} pagan nations do use the birthday celebration as part of their worship to their gods that's why only two cases of birthday celebration was mentioned in the Bible {Genesis 40:20; Matthew 14:6} both celebrants aren't faithful servants of God and you can never ever find a single servant of God who celebrated birthday from Genesis to Revelation and this is in line with the inspired expression written in the Bible book of Ecclesiastes 7:1 in fact a reputable servant of God cursed the day of his birth! Jeremiah 20:14
So when the Christ finally arrived angels rejoice greatly at his birth and made it known to the Israelites through the mouth of shepherds but as the boy grows up there was no record of birthday celebration either by his parents, himself or his faithful disciples.
He actually told his listeners "i have come to fulfill what the prophets told you" Matthew 5:17
Well it was on the very day he was about to surrender his life that he COMMANDED his disciples to commemorate {Luke 22:19} and that's exactly what they did {1Corinthians 11:25 compare to John 15:14} in fact God's Holy Spirit never reminded his disciples to pen down the exact date of Jesus' birth {John 16:12-13} but the day he COMMANDED them to mark was penned down: Nisan 14
So his true disciples today (Jehovah's Witnesses) are doing just what he COMMANDED no addition and no subtraction! Revelations 22:18-19

May you have PEACE!