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MightySparrow:
Your GB is making true God untrue thus making yourselves false Witnesses
Isaiah 8: 18 -20

Please next time don't quote me if you don't have any tangible thing to say.
We are not gullible followers of some liars who are extorting money from you to possess jets and properties up and down.

I have proved to you and everyone on this thread that supernatural gifts was reserved for only the descendants of Jacob {Matthew 15:24} and after the destruction of Jerusalem all such gifts ceased! 1Corinthians 13:8-10

So if anyone is performing arts of supernatural gifts today they're simply practicing magic that's why Jesus foretold that he will deny them because they're workers of INIQUITY (LAWLESSNESS) meaning they will surely perform strange things but regarding tenets of worship they will not speak in harmony as Jesus taught his own disciples! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

FreedomfromtheT:
True servants of Christ teach the whole truth without sentiments out of love for people's never dying souls. We don't gamble with people's eternal wellbeing.
Getting saved and getting into the Kingdom is same as escaping the damnation of hell (Mathew 23:33).
Salvation also brings peace from the Prince of peace because there is no peace for the wicked (the stubborn sinner).
Reconciliation with God through Christ also ensures God's abiding presence here on earth despite the turbulence and troubles (John 16:33).
It guarantees speedy answer to one's prayers. etc.
Your denial of the existence of hellfire doesn't change the reality.
Christ warned His disciples, followers as well as the hypocritical religious Pharisess that hellfire actually exists (Matthew 23:15,33; 25:41,46; Luke 12:4,5; Revelation 21:.
It is sheer wickedness to know the reality of eternal damnation for the unrepentant and pretend it doesn't.
It is wickedness to "compass sea and land to make proselytes only to make them twofold the children of hell than yourselves" (Matthew 23:15).
By the grace of God, many who have been deceived by your religious sect will have their eyes open and know the truth that will set them free before they die in Jesus' name, Amen
(John 8:31,32).

Obviously you know nothing about the GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom, all you have in your skull is the threat of your imaginary hell fire.

Now read GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom:

When God's Kingdom comes {Matthew 6:10} Jesus will be ordered {Psalms 110:1-2} to destroy all the bad rulers making life uneasy for mankind! Daniel 2:44 compare to Luke 19:27

He will see to it that there is plenty of food all over the planet! Psalms 72:16 compare to Luke 9:11-17

He will open the eyes of all blind people no matter the condition of their blindness! Isaiah 35:5 compare to John 9:7

He will make the lame walk no matter what has caused their disability! Isaiah 35:5 compare to John 5:8

He will cure all manners of insanity! Matthew 9:32; 15:22

He will control all the forces of nature for the well-being of obedient mankind! Mark 4:39

He will make sure that nobody get sick, grow old nor die again! Isaiah 25:8 compare to Luke 8:52-55

He will make peace reign to the extremity of the earth for the benefit of obedient mankind! Isaiah 37:9-11

He will wipe every tears from our eyes and we will no longer remember the pain sin brought upon mankind! Revelations 21:3-4

These is the GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom not just stories of some imaginary hell fire with nothing GOOD as NEWS!

MightySparrow:
GB' s philosophy. Your own god don retire tay Tay. My own Jehovah lives. You are more loyal to your GB than to jehovah. What witness are you bearing for a God that says He changeth not and your GB are claiming He changes like chameleon?
Mal.3.6 - For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Jer.8.22 - Is there no balm in Gilead; is there no physician there? why then is not the health of the daughter of my people recovered?
Jas.1.17 - Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
Faithlessness is the motto of JWs

Of course the true God never change in all His promises He declared that His covenant is with only the descendants of Isaac {Genesis 17:18-21} and from there He passed it on to Jacob {Exodus 19:5} and His Son also confirmed that supernatural gifts is for the benefit of Jacob's descendants only! Matthew 15:24

So when did God change that promise to start granting none Israelites power to perform miracles is what you should explain!

MightySparrow:
For whoever needs it.

Then why are you lying to your soul that you can heal miraculously when you're relying on blood transfusion?

You just keep exposing yourself.

I quoted Jesus Christ saying miraculous gifts is only for the Israelites {Matthew 15:24} you look away i quoted where he said many will say they're performing miracles in his name but he will deny knowing them because they're lawless miscreants {Matthew 7:21-23} you refused to comment on that yet you're talking about the GOVERNING BODY of Jehovah's Witnesses who have nothing to be ashamed of unlike your hopeless Papa who is lying that he's performing miracles yet himself and a host of others claiming they're performing miracles in Jesus name can't agree on terms and conditions of worship.

Ọmọ you love lies o!

Jesus said he will deny you and your Papa because you people are claiming miraculous works yet you can't speak in one voice as Jesus' real disciples supposed to do! John 17:22 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10

What is the GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom?

That's what no other religion can decipher if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses you can never ever know it, all you'll continue doing is feeling of torment and fear of the unknown whereas we have the GOOD NEWS that even an atheist will be touched when he hears it.
But since Satan's agents like Kumuyi and co has infused hatred in your head you will look at us as if we're evil instead of listening to gain the accurate knowledge of God's word.

You just want to go to heaven, what is going on there you don't care to know, why did Jesus promised taking some believers there you don't care to know, what God promised righteous people in ancient times you don't care to know it's all about fear of not been tormented that's driving you up and down even though it's a lie you just feel that anyone who disagree is not a believer. I pity you o if you can read but blinded yourself to the truth!

You're just beating about the bush as you have nothing tangible to preach or teach!

Speak about what you know regarding God's Kingdom after all you're not preaching to lead anyone to your imaginary hell fire.
So talk about what God's Kingdom will bring to believers not threatening those who disagree with you, let's hear the blessings God's Kingdom will bring!

FreedomfromtheT:
That is not the point.
You as a member of Jehovah's witnesses is able to indoctrinate people that only 144,000 people are going to heaven, that the soul is mortal and that there is no hellfire but total annihilation of sinners etc contrary to what Jesus taught because they listen and believe you (Revelation 7:9; Luke 16:13-28; Acts 7:55-60; Matthew 25:41,46).
I can only disciple those that listen to me who are ready to be saved or who are actually saved on what Christ expects from them.
You keep on erroneously lumping us together with other churches and ministries that you call Christendom as though we are the same or want people to believe we are the same.
I repeat. I don't have the right to tell other preachers what to preach because I didn't call them.
Of course, there are a lot of other preachers of truth outside Deeper Life by whose fruits of genuine salvation, right living and focus on what takes people to heaven ye shall know (Matthew 7:20).
God has graciously made me to be able to severe truth from error and I can't pretend not to know the truth.
I only tell those who care to listen the truth as I am doing here but certainly can't force anybody as we are all free moral agents.
Believed:
God so loves you so much He doesn't want you to perish (John 3:16),
You were born a sinner (Psalms 51:5, Romans 3:23)
You can't save yourself by your self-efforts or religious accomplishments (Acts 10:1-6; Titus 3:5).
Make sure you repent from sin and get saved before you die. Do not delay.
Christ Jesus is the only Saviour (Acts 4:10-12).
If you are actually saved, your life will change and you will receive the grace to sin no more(Ephesians 2:8,9).
Irrespective of the quantum of your sins, background, religion, class or race, Christ Jesus died for you and will receive you if you repent and come to Him (John 1:11,12, 29).
Once you die, there is no more room for repentance and salvation and no prayers said on your behalf will avail either (Isaiah 55:6, 7; Hebrews 9:27).
Once you die, your soul will either go to a resting place with God or a place of torment (Luke 16: 22-28, 23:42,43; Philippians 1:21-24; 2nd Peter 1:13,14)..
There are only two destinations after death - heaven or hell (Matthew 7:13,14; 25:41,46).
If you land in eternal flame of hell, it is your fault, not God's, but you will not perish in Jesus' name, Amen.
Please don't be deceived!

MightySparrow:
No my Papa teaches total reliance on God. You believe that blood transfusion not scriptural. We believe you don't need it at all.

Surely you're not sane!
If you and your hopeless Papa can heal miraculously what are you doing with blood transfusion?

MightySparrow:
The Cruz of the matter is healing. Shay?

Next time think well before quoting me i'm not one of those deceived by your Papa!

MightySparrow:
There's nothing clearer than God still heals today whether by personal prayers, by prophets, by pastors etc.
God heals, God heals, God healsssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My own Jehovah healsssssss.

Miracle that defy magical powers and philosophy and science is what Jehovah ( my own Jehovah) uses to confound the braggers. In real pentecostal church magicians submit their fetish things, we burn them openly.
ITimothy 6:20,; Col.2:8; Acts 19:19. KJV

You said blind, deaf and lame were healed but later you said it wasn't in any program.

So try to be consistent with your comments!

funshint:
I believe it is....I don't know the reason why the Council of Neece decided not to include it in THE BOOK.

The first inspired writer that God breathed to was Moses so if anyone wrote a book before then it can't be considered inspired.
People do tell or write about their history from time immemorial but when God wanted to introduce Himself He made Moses to be whole without food or water for 40 days and 40 nights telling him what to write! Exodus 34:28

So Enoch lived and was taken away but he wasn't inspired to write anything!

Righteousness2:
Leave stories, study your bible.
JESUS is GOD.

John said:
"The word WAS WAS WAS God"
Not "IS God"
So something is wrong with Trinitarianism!

MightySparrow:
MaximumSide can lie. Aha!
In addition to my own testimony, because In pentecostal, we believe, teach and encourage ourselves to exercise faith. We have results individually and cooperately.
GB teachers faithlessness in a faithful God and leave them confused.
Be deceiving yourself. Jehovah God, not that of JWs is faithful. He has not changed. God answers people in their area of needs as regulated by GB.

Let's get this clear.

Is it that you were blind or lame or deaf then you prayed to your God and got healed or you witnessed a program where such happened in the hand of a pastor or prophet?

Because if it's about praying for personal needs i have told you that God opens His hands to provide for all creatures {Matthew 5:45; Psalms 104:14-15; Act 14:17} but when talking about supernatural gifts Jesus said that is reserved for only the Israelites! Matthew 15:24

So i want you to be specific since you said:

Not any pastor or prophet or any special crusade or programme.

MyExpression:
His rape case is not relevant to me.

If he's a prophet or not it doesn't matter let rape case stand on its own not to interfere with Peter Obi matter.

David was a king and prophet in Israel he slept with another man's wife, even see to it that the man was killed and took over the wife that doesn't nullify the prophecies God gave through David.

So if a grownup lady could be sexually molested and she never took up the case until now that the guy is talking about something that could affect the nation then she must be hiding something!

sonmvayina:
They only worshipped their creator..... Chukwu okike...

According to what is written in the Torah shey?

Ọmọ that Jewish man is a member of a cult so he has initiated you into a blind cult that's why you can't reason beyond what he infused in your head.

Rulers set up rules for peaceful coexistence in their domain that's what the God of Abraham did to the descendants of Jacob, if they abide by His rules they will have peace among themselves and if other nations comes to invade them He will fight for them as their King and Protector. Those rules has nothing to do with other nations the only promise God made is that another prophet will come to teach the Israelites how to take the peaceful coexistence they enjoy among themselves to other lands. That's the purpose of the Messiah and since the Israelites are the frontiers they will rule with him and laws will be coming from Jerusalem where this ruler and his co-rulers are stationed! Isaiah 2:3

When Jesus of Nazareth came the Israelites had another thing in mind that's why he cursed them, their city and their temple {Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38} which happened just as he said, a pagan nation came, sack Jerusalem with it's temple and scattered the descendants of Jacob throughout the earth never to be assembled as one nation again! Luke 11:23

So if you're saying the Romans created that figure how come all these fulfilled up till today and the Israelites don't even know where the rest of the tribes dispassed to till today?
The name "JEWS" apply only to three tribes Judah, Benjamin and Levi the remaining ten tribes are gone for good.

Are you saying Romans caused that too?

OLAADEGBU:
The question you should ask yourself is - when was the first time this lady accused this bishop of rape? Was it before the presidential election or after? Before you jump to the conclusion you are now arriving at.

Was the case reported to the police and documented?

Ọmọ nah intelligence officer you dey chat with no be gullible mugus, the case supposed to be in court before the presidential election which would have rendered the so called prophet or pastor speechless regarding whatever goes on with the presidential election. But from the look of things this matter came up after he has said something favourable about PGO.

So try to ascertain all things and hold onto that which is good! 1Thessalonians 5:21

May you have PEACE!

TheDarkHorse:
It's probable the young man doesn't even know the woman at all.. Haba!!! Na naija We dey anything can be cooked up and before he's set for plea, he's arraigned and put behind bars in the name of detention before investigation.. Maybe before they find out he's innocent, he must have lasted months in there and that's the kind of country we live in..
That's the reason we all need to lay low most times, especially with political issues without letting them know who said whatever was said..

From the lady's comment they truly know each other that's the significance of the money he sent to her account but as for the rape case it's obvious that something is fishy!

In the first century many often feel happy when they hear a disciple of Jesus Christ telling them the GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom but at the mention of the name "Jesus" they will turn away.
WHY?
Because their religious leaders have told them lots of lies and malicious things about Jesus of Nazareth! John 9:22; Act 4:18; Act 5:28
The same thing happens to Jesus' true disciples (Jehovah's Witnesses) today {John 15:18} we have this experience always as they listen to our heartwarming message they're refreshed but at the mention of the group name they turn away. We know why!

brocab:
{I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity}
This thread has nothing to do with God, matter of fact it's heading is against God

Are you listening to your own words, Max: you are preaching your God: your god is not the God written in the bible.

If you won the heart's of many people through preaching God's Word "then why are many turning away from you as soon as you mention "Jehovah witnesses. Is this not enough evidence to prove you and your organisation don't preach the Word of God, that even comes close to recognizing any truth, your god is "Not the same God we have accepted-learn't and understood.

MightySparrow:
I am saying that I prayed and my own Jehovah not jehovah of the JWs answered me. Not any pastor or prophet or any special crusade or programme.
Your GB taught you that your own Jehovah is on holiday. My own Jehovah answers my prayers including health issues.
I am a living witness to His Acts not witnesses without evidence!

This is what you typed:

MightySparrow:
This is an area you don't know Sir. No amount of arguments can make you convince someone who was suffering and now healed. Who was blind and now sees. Who was lame and now walks. Who has one leg shorter than the other but now has the two same. I have seen these. Sir you disbelief or unbelief sown by GB does not hold water.

So if you only prayed to your God and got what you asked it totally differs from claiming lame work and blind see otherwise you should prove it yourself but of course you're lying to your own soul now you want to say there is no pastor or prophet doing it then who opened the eyes of the blind and made the lame whole?
Ọmọ you're just deceiving yourself God answered all people when it comes to their needs! Matthew 5:45

sonmvayina:
Jesus is an idol created in the image and likeness of the Roman....
Which God forbids in his second commandment...

Your ancestors bowing to other gods are what?

sonmvayina:
Ok...says Maxindhouse who belongs to a cult with hash laws..

You're a member of a Jewish cult that's why you can't see beyond whatever they infused in your head!

When God created Adam and Eve there was no lengthy rules because everywhere was peaceful it was the unrest that results from crookedness of humans that led to LAWS.

So if humans can come together to create a peaceful atmosphere they don't need laws because they're created in God's image!

sonmvayina:
Lol......
Little wonder you can't see and why you don't understand....because that is the only one you know, does not mean there is no other one......
God created all of mankind, and gave them his laws......The Jewish rendering of the law is called the Torah..

If all the nations have their version of God's laws then why did God call other nations "pagans"? 2Samuel 7:23

TheDarkHorse:
So long as that allegation is proven false..
Why not? He'll definitely be vindicated..
It's just an act of tyranny from the BAT crew

Most people don't know how far politicians can go to blackmail anyone blocking their way.

She was enjoying sex with the young man and she was paid now she wants to change the payment into compensation whereas she supposed to have exposed him long before now. The reason why she mentioned the money is because the man may say she was paid for her service.

Ọmọ i wish most people pass through the office of the intelligence you people will be shocked to know so many secrets and scandals!

When did all these happened?
Why didn't she report to the police?
Why wait until now that politics is involved?

When matters like this arises the intelligence ask thought provoking questions that most wouldn't even think of!

sonmvayina:
God already gave human his laws...
He promised to bless, heal their land and forgive our sins, if we sincerely repent and go back to his laws...
He crowns it with peace, peace in our land and homes...
So if you are saying you don't need God and his laws because you can achieve peace by following an idol, then I have nothing to do but leave you to your word...

You're lying!
God never promised any other nation except the Israelites to serve as their constitution!

sonmvayina:
You are not carrying out Gods will if you disobey his commandments...
Those it make any sense?
Looks like am talking to a brick wall..

Commandments (laws) are set by rulers to create PEACEFUL atmosphere so if PEACE has been achieved there's no need of laws anymore!

sonmvayina:
So you rather follow an idol created by Rome..
So much for ignorance and illiteracy..

PEACE can only be achieved by God so you're the one attributing Godly qualities to idols!

sonmvayina:
I don't see you posting where God made all these promises in the Tanakh.. You have to free yourself from the brain washing..

Brainwashing is when you're arguing blindly with nothing to show for it!

I'm presenting to the whole world the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses that has successfully carried out God's will today as written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4

sonmvayina:
Lol...
According to God ...you are on your own..
You are on the wrong track...it does not matter whether you are peaceful or not. You don't follow his principles and commandments....

According to God nobody or group of people can achieve PEACE without the spirit of God so you're the confused one here as you can't find any religion that's fulfilling what God promised yet your Jewish landlord has brainwashed you to think what is achievable by Jehovah's Witnesses is wrong simply because we're not following their hopeless Torah!

sonmvayina:
So which of Abraham, Isaac or Jacob believed God had a son, he was sending to die for the sins of the world?

Neither Abraham, Isaac or Jacob knew the Torah their righteousness wasn't built around it. What they believe is that God will send a Son who will undo the works of the Devil as written in the Bible book of Genesis 3:15 their believe is that this promised child will come from their lineage! Genesis 17:18-21

sonmvayina:
I think we are getting somewhere.
The Torah was given to the Jews....it is forever. They are to teach it to their children and children children...

NO! The Torah was given to the descendants of Jacob to guide them until the promised Son comes from the lineage of Judah {Genesis 49:10} that's why God kept His promises with the descendants of Judah and anyone staying with them hence Benjamin and Levites were called Judah along with the real descendants of Judah (Jacob's fourth son)
So when the ten northern tribes of Israel abandoned the written words of the prophets the three southern tribes Judah Benjamin and Levites stick to it so they were called Judah as one.

sonmvayina:
Then the roman came took it and added a ridiculous story about a dying and rising Sun god,..there is no connection with the Torah..
And you are here rambling about JW fulfilling Gods prophesies..How preposterous?

NO after Jesus of Nazareth came as the Christ but the nation rejected him God condemned the entire nation that's why the Romans could destroy their city and their hopeless temple till today! Matthew 21:43 compare to 23:27-28

But wait o!
What exactly is she doing alone with this good looking young man?
This story get K-leg jọọ!

sonmvayina:
They are about following Gods divine commandments
Not false ideologies....

False ideologies that brought about PEACE just as God promised in His word shey? Isaiah 1:18

Ọmọ i think sey you get sense o!

sonmvayina:
No..they are not..
They are not keeping the laws......
It's talking about the Torah...
Not people that follow false ideology..

You're a confused Igbo guy brainwashed by a Jewish zealot.

God never had a covenant with any other nation using the Torah so the Torah was strictly between the God of Abraham and the nation of Israel. When talking about God's laws it has to do with righteousness not just what was given to Moses to pass onto the Israelites.
That's why God declared Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph and Job righteous without the Torah!

So learn to distinguish between righteousness and the constitution God gave the nation of Israel as a covenant between Himself and that nation under His rulership! Jeremiah 31:33