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MightySparrow:
Timothy and GB are in the same class.

So you agree that the GB have faith like Timothy.
Good!
You can continue deceiving yourself with those liars claiming they're performing miracles yet contradicting themselves in teaching.
Jesus have forewarned us against such liars that they will perform miracles but they will not agree on terms and conditions of worship making them workers of lawlessness! Matthew 7:21-23

FreedomfromtheT:
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I don't tell others what to preach because I didn't call them.

We tell anyone who wants to preach for Jesus of Nazareth what they must preach!

In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judea, And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Matthew 3:1-2

From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Matthew 4:17

And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Matthew 10:7

Even if an angel come down from heaven to preach any other thing such an angel is accursed! Galatians 1:8

So we train disciples for Christ Jesus and teach them what to preach! Matthew 28:19-20

sonmvayina:
Sorry..
You can't be the judge and jury at the same time ...

God's word says:

And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. Isaiah 2:2-4
I wasn't a JW when i first read this so you too can judge for yourself if JWs aren't fulfilling that prophecy!

sonmvayina:
I can tell you a thousand and 1 cult group that meat that requirement...
E.g the Muslim brotherhood
ISIS... .they are world wide group...They are not keeping the commandments of the true God just as JW are not too.....
So you can not be practicing idolatry and you are talking about the true God...they are mutually exclusive.... They are people of different tribes who keep the divine commandments of God. They don't need to be in a group.... They are everywhere on social media and in real life... They develop by learning the different layers of the Torah.. Not believing Somebody paid a Ransome by dying..(does it even make any sense?)

Read Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 again before lying to your own soul regarding the fulfilment of God's word!

sonmvayina:
You can be the judge and the jury at the same time..

Exactly!
So if you disagree with what the scriptures say and it's fulfilment is obvious today then keep your judgement to yourself!

Still another gibberish without anything tangible to take home!

Food for thought:

Why is there contradictions in what the churches of Christendom are teaching?

Why can't you preach one or two things about God's Kingdom?

What exactly is unique about Kumuyi that all other so called pastors don't have?

Ọmọ you're just a brainwashed dummy, i'm not attacking anyone i'm just telling you the indisputable truth about things you need to consider for your salvation instead of following a popular religious title chief with nothing to show for your own faith in God! 2Timothy 3:13

FreedomfromtheT:
This thread is about why people hate Deeper Life members. You have demonstrated why you hate the people of God by your constant attack of pastor Kumuyi and Deeper Life members.
I knew what I believed since I got saved on the 18th of November, 1999.
I didn't get save through pastor Kumuyi or the Deeper Life Bible Church. But I admire him a lot as one of the few genuine men of God around and as it pleased God, I joined the Deeper Life Bible Church eventually.
I do listen to people preach it teach and I compare with the scriptures to know if what they teach is according to God's word. If not, I will not buy it.
But there are certainly people I don't listen to because I know they are character deficient or teachers of false doctrines jws inclusive.
By the grace of God, I am not a religious sinner who is indoctrinated into a certain religious sect trying to prove superiority.
A sinner remains one until he comes into the saving knowledge of Christ irrespective of how religious or fanatical such a one is.
Please get this right. Mental accent of biblical quotations or being versed in the Scriptures while you remain a hateful, envious character assassinating sinner fighting for religious superiority of your sect doesn't make you a Christian.
Saul of Tarsus was like that until Christ encountered him on the way to Damascus. May you and your likes encounter Christ before you die in Jesus' name, Amen.

sonmvayina:
You are trying so hard to hold on to straws..

Prove you have something worthwhile by presenting a global family of worshipers who are practicing what you believe.

The true God promised that He will send out His spirit {Zechariah 4:6} to gather obedient mankind from all the nations of the earth under one umbrella and they will form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} that has been fulfilled.

So if you have no living proof of what you're arguing for then you're just a clanging gong!

sonmvayina:
I did not ask you all these...just show me where God said his son will be the mediator and will die for the sins of humanity...and will rise after 3 days...
Why are you dancing like a headless chicken?

Scriptures weren't written for critics like you to dictate how it should be arranged so if you're not comfortable with the arrangement found in God's word that's your cup of coffee, God actually promised that a greater mediator will come and that whoever disobey this mediator will be cut off {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} that's why the nation of Israel were scattered never to be assembled again as a nation because they rejected Jesus of Nazareth the man who proved beyond every reasonable doubt that he is the Messiah!

MightySparrow:
This is an area you don't know Sir. No amount of arguments can make you convince someone who was suffering and now healed. Who was blind and now sees. Who was lame and now walks. Who has one leg shorter than the other but now has the two same. I have seen these. Sir you disbelief or unbelief sown by GB does not hold water.

So who is performing all these so everyone can bring REAL blind, lame and deaf for healing?

With your grey hair you're still going about with deceitful people claiming what God never promised gentiles shey?

Well it's not the GB that wrote what Jesus said in the Bible, miraculous healings is only for Israelites {Matthew 15:24} that's why Timothy wasn't healed miraculously but have to be placed on medication! 1Timothy 5:23

jaephoenix:
Or a talking snake and donkey.…
Hang on. I know a story about talking snakes and donkeys.. .
Jungle Book and Shrek
I know the events in those stories are fictions but somehow chrissies believe theirs is true

Someone tells me he made a fish to dance on dry land for more than 72 hours of course i will doubt his words and if he says lots and lots of strange things then i will keep his words in a cooler to be considered some other time. Then he goes on to make a promise extremely impossible surely i will wait to see how he fulfils it but if he's able to fulfill the impossible then i have no reason doubting whatever he says again!

jaephoenix:
So where are those promises written?

God made a promise that's really difficult to believe such a thing could be possible! Matthew 19:26

We all know how difficult it is for humans to agree on terms and conditions of peace keeping as people claiming peacekeepers also make use of force and weapons to kill those they're preaching PEACE to.

So when God promised that people from all races throughout the earth will find delight in His word (Bible) and agree to make use of this book to resolve their disparities among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Ọmọ even those writing this things down really find it difficult to believe so God ordered them to pen it down because this words are faithful and true! Revelations 21:5

So if you are seeing a group of people comprising of people from all races throughout the earth fulfilling this promise today yet doubting the Bible's Author i don't know what else to say to you!

Sangoamadioha1:
In Christianity to blaspheme against the holy spirit is regarded as the greatest sin, which means Christians also have greater and lesser sin.
Sin is sin in both religions, no need looking for differences.

Jesus didn't call it "sin against holy spirit" mind the translation.

He said blasphemy against the Holy Spirit {Matthew 12:31-32} sin is what people do out of ignorance or confused state of mind but blasphemy is what people do deliberately.

For Instance some people said about Jesus "this young man is mad" {John 10:20} even his own mother and siblings thought the same {Mark 3:21} this is what Jesus meant by blasphemy against the Son of man, those saying these things has a good reason in their own hearts they think Jesus is not getting his senses right so even though they blasphemed such blasphemy wasn't due to evil intentions! Luke 6:45

But when someone sees the works Jesus is doing and remembered that God has promised all these things as evidence of the presence of the Christ but started saying evil things against what God promised then there's no forgiveness for such a person because he is intentionally condemning God's work!

What you're seeking is impossible God doesn't work that way deliverance is PERSONAL not conventional if you want to be delivered that means you know what you want but you can't make demands for others each person will have to carry his or her own load! Galatians 6:5

Do you remember what gave birth to this thread?

Well it was the word of my God that i preached to a young lady named "Rozz" she purposely opened this thread because of me.
She first opened a thread and attached my profile name "Maximus69" but when i objected she started this

cornelboy:
I always find wisdom in your post

Many have said the above about my comments but when i give the credit to God's organization (Jehovah's Witnesses) they turned to rage saying they don't want to hear that group name.

So i know how my post is disturbing you keep deceiving yourself simply because you don't want to subject yourself to God's organization!

brocab:
Max had never preached the Word of God to us, but anybody who is convinced about joining the Watchtower 'do yourselves a favor don't be like him. If you truly believe you are christian, then at least preach the Word of God...

MightySparrow:
Well said. I have evidence. He healed me, my wife and daughter of what doctors claimed to be incurable. You have arguments. No amount of arguments can match an evidence.
My own God promised me healing and perform His promises.

You always misconstrue my post but that's not a problem all you need is enlightenment.

Did you miss this part in my post?

Healing on its own has been part of God's plan that's why he created herbs for humans to treat ourselves! Psalms 104:14

Of course God has arranged that man should be cured using different fruits and vegetables to heal us that's why atheists feel what they want as evidence of God's ability to heal are the things recorded in the Bible: faith healing without the use of any food or drinks.

For your information a type of food may be the cure to a disease but it's until we discover it such a disease remains incurable to researchers (scientists)

So if you claim God healed you the same is applicable to everyone else as long as they eat food and drinks fluids sicknesses are cured but when it comes to healing without taking any food or drinks God never promised other nations except the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that's why Jesus could tell a woman he's not here for miraculous healing of none Israelites! Matthew 15:24

When Jesus said:

“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be." Matthew 24:36-39

It should be noted that the time to bring an end to badness can't be determined by hour or day calculation because God is getting time to time reports from His angels who are serving as His eyes foreseeing the activities of Jehovah's Witnesses globally.
So it's after these people has reached the last person with their message on this planet that the destruction will occur just as it happened in the days of Noah, that's why Jesus himself can't say specifically what day or hour it will happen! Matthew 24:36

MindHacker9009:
And you believe you are the spokesman for Jesus, when Jesus Himself even said it in Revelation 22:12 Behold, I'm Coming Soon

That statement is to be understood from the point of view of creatures whose existence has nothing to do with expiration date.
If you look at it from the human point of view then the word "SOON" will confuse you because a thousand years of man is like a day to the Bible's Author {2Peter 3:8} from man's viewpoint it's taking forever but God is not slow regarding His plans many are out there with pure hearts practicing false religions they are God's main concern {2Peter 3:9} His angels are taking note of all the places where His worshipers (Jehovah's Witnesses) are touching with their message and names are recorded in remembrance of those sparing their time to discuss with JW {Malachi 3:16} so by the time God is satisfied with the WORKS of His Witnesses the end will come just like the days of Noah! 2Peter 3:10 compare to Luke 17:26-27

May you have PEACE!

FreedomfromtheT:
I am not preaching here but simply reaffirming what pastor Kumuyi has been standing for. You can check where I backed up most of the things we believe for which Deeper Life is hated from the Bible earlier on this particular thread.
Alternatively, you can listen to just any message from pastor Kumuyi or any other Deeper Life minister to know whether we back our messages from the Bible or not.
Thanks.

So who is brainwashed between you and i now?

I am preaching and teaching what i know with scriptural backing to prove i know what i'm saying but you're just mentioning "Kumuyi Kumuyi" as if he's the only person authorized to preach and teach.

Ọmọ next time don't try Jehovah's Witnesses each of us is fully competent and completely equipped minister of God's word not gullible followers of some liars .

That's what being disciples of Christ in all the nations means {Act 1:8} as we are known to be efficient preachers and teachers not gullible followers of some sort who can't defend their beliefs! Luke 12:11-12

FRANCISTOWN:
If your god didn't promise healing in this world then, this just solidified the claim that no god is responsible for the healings we see around in this world

My God promised only the descendants of His friend (Abraham) that's why the Bible never mentioned any miracles without involvement of Israelites.
Healing on its own has been part of God's plan that's why he created herbs for humans to treat ourselves! Psalms 104:14
But all these noise here and there about miracles is deception!

Toluilori0008:
Is it not about working and respect others to get money and not trouble ?

If you really want to know the truth humble yourself and learn, no servant of God pray for money in the Bible that's what i want you to know.

Farewell!

FreedomfromtheT:
This is not popularity contest.
Jehovah's witnesses teach damnable heresies. They indoctrinate fellow sinners into carrying bags and literature from place to place especially on Sunday mornings telling people about God's kingdom that they are not even part of and deceiving the gullible that hellfire doesn't exist.
Pastor Kumuyi on the other hand is well known for preaching and teaching the undiluted truth of the word over the decades.
He opens the Bible and explains his teachings from same without adulteration or mutilation.
Through his consistent ministry, tens of millions of saints have gone into eternal Bliss. God has used him to train lots of Christian leaders some of whom are now shepherds of churches and ministries.
There is no basis for comparison between light and darkness.

See misinformed churchgoer Kumuyi boy!

Ọmọ quote God's word with efficacy to back up what you're saying not just asserting what is not real simply because Kumuyi has brainwashed you with his lies.

Use the Bible to prove what you're saying!

FreedomfromtheT:
I can see that you are still wilfully ignorant or simply being mischievous.
Those who have listened to Kumuyi's messages over the years know that you are typing nonsense.
The goal of Kumuyi through his consistent preaching, teaching and healing ministry is to bring as many lost souls including Jehovah's witnesses into the saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus and take multitudes to heaven.
His emphasis has been on repentance leading to salvation, entire sanctification leading to holiness of life and concentration to the Lord.
He makes it clear that outward dressing and conformity without genuine salvation and purity of heart is mere self deception.
Jehovah's witnesses are a false religious sect leading multitudes to eternal hellfire which they deny doesn't exist.
Pastor Kumuyi and Deeper Life is not competing with false religionists who compass sea and land to make proselytes and then make them two fold the children of hell than themselves (Matthew 23:15).
I don't know where you get this your false propaganda that is making you happy. For your information, pastor Kumuyi is not changing any truth of the Bible he has stood on all these years.
Thank you.

Stop deceiving yourself, Kumuyi is not going to heaven, he will simply die and routine in his grave after enjoying your money.

God never promised mankind heaven Jesus was talking to only Jews regarding partakers in his Kingdom, Jerusalem supposed to be their government house {Isaiah 2:3} but since those Jews have polluted that city with the blood of God's Holy prophets {Matthew 23:37-38} God allowed few Jews to be the first set of that group {Matthew 19:28} but regarding the rest of that nation God has condemned them along with their city Jerusalem {Matthew 21:43} that is why Jesus said many evil things will befall Jerusalem and it's temple {Matthew 24:1-2} his disciples became devastated after hearing this so he told them he's going back to heaven to PREPARE another government house their for them to stay with him! John 14:1-3

So Kumuyi was teaching HERESY which he got from the Catholics God never planned that humans will die and go to heaven earth is where God made for mankind! Psalms 115:16 compare to Genesis 1:26-28

You can continue deceiving yourself with Kumuyi but if you want to know the truth JWs will teach you!

sonmvayina:
Ok..show me where God said them..and the prophet he spoke to..

Moses was a mediator to the first covenant between God and the Israelites there was never a time when God set rules for people until the time of Moses which He did with the Israelites.
Then God foretold that a greater mediator will come which the Israelites must believe otherwise they will be cutoff! Deuteronomy 18:18-19

Toluilori0008:
Is Jesus not concerned about tithe than tax?

He CURSED tithe PAYERS {Matthew 23:23} and RECEIVERS so he has nothing to do with tithing because it's not about his own priesthood rather tithing belongs to the Levitical priesthood! Hebrews 7:5-12

Toluilori0008:
Can a believer lack money ?

Why is it that Jesus and his disciples can't just pay the temple tax but have to go catching a fish?
Ọmọ money has nothing to do with real faith in God Job lost everything yet his faith was rock solid!

sonmvayina:
I have explained this for you before, but you keep taking text out of context, The sign was for King Ahaz, it was an assurance for him that his kingdom will still stand irrespective of the threat by Syria and the upper kingdom.
The woman in question was the prophetess and Isaiah's wife. She is not a virgin. It was Isaiah that made her pregnant the normal way.

Guy there's nothing special if it's just a young woman giving birth the Hebrew text could also be translated VIRGIN that's what makes sense so it's significant.

sonmvayina:
The Messiah in question was Cyrus. He was Gods Messiah..read passages in context.

Cyrus the pagan foreshadowed the real Messiah who must be a Jew by birth so check it very well God often use a prophet or messenger to foreshadow a greater one! Deuteronomy 18:18-19

sonmvayina:
Isaiah 53 is about a suffering servant. 8 times prior to chapter 53, Isaiah told you that the servant was Israel. I don't know why you just don't want to learn. No body died, They where suffering because of what was done to them by the Babylonian.

Ọmọ it's about the Messiah who must suffer to redeem mankind stop deceiving yourself!

sonmvayina:
Luke can make his character say anything. It does not prove anything. No prophet ever prophesied that. So it's all made up...

Learn, unlearn and relearn..

Definitely everything was made up including the ones you're quoting!

sonmvayina:
Why are you pissing everywhere?
Piss for one place make them see the foam...
Show me where God said he will send his son to come and die as a sin sacrifice to himself.
After 3 days rise from the dead...
And ascend into heaven...
All the bull shit you Christian claim..

The prophecies aren't written in just one verse or chapter it runs throughout the Old Testament so you can't find it all written in one verse as you are demanding!

Toluilori0008:
If you are of God would their be envy ?

Envy is from the agents of Satan and Satan has the majority of mankind under his control {John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} when Jesus said thieves and robbers may rob us he wasn't referring to believers rather he was talking about faithless miscreants who don't have any faith or hope in God! Matthew 6:19-21

sonmvayina:
Can you show me where he said so in the old testament...I am waiting. Show me where he said he would be sending his son to be killed as a sacrifice for sin.. To appease him...
And after 3 days he would rise ..

"Therefore, Jehovah himself will give you a sign: Look! The young woman will become pregnant and will give birth to a son, and she will name him Im·manʹu·el" Isaiah 7:14

Jesus was born by a virgin!

"And after the 62 weeks, Mes·siʹah (Christ) will be cut off, with nothing for himself. “And the people of a leader who is coming will destroy the city and the holy place. And its end will be by the flood. And until the end there will be war; what is decided upon is desolations" Daniel 9:26

Jesus died and Romans destroyed Jerusalem!

Truly he himself carried our sicknesses, And he bore our pains. But we considered him as plagued, stricken by God and afflicted. But he was pierced for our transgression; He was crushed for our errors. He bore the punishment for our peace, And because of his wounds we were healed. Like sheep we have all wandered about, Each has turned his own way, And Jehovah has caused the error of us all to meet up with him. He was oppressed and he let himself be afflicted, But he would not open his mouth. He was brought like a sheep to the slaughter, Like a ewe that is silent before its shearers, And he would not open his mouth. Isaiah 53:4-7

Jesus bear the sin of entire mankind!

"For just as Joʹnah was in the belly of the huge fish for three days and three nights, so the Son of man will be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights". Matthew 12:40
He himself foretold of his resurrection in three days!

After the destruction of Jerusalem Israelites can never ever come together again for rejecting Jesus God has scattered the descendants of Jacob throughout the earth! Luke 11:23

If you want to question the authenticity of Jesus of Nazareth just face us we are Jehovah's Witnesses his real disciples taught and empowered by the spirit of his father to answer all your questions! Luke 12:11-12

FreedomfromtheT:
Your are simply an ignorant, religious sinner blinded by hate and envy.
Tens of millions of people within and outside Nigeria including traditionalists, Muslims and atheists know what pastor Kumuyi and Deeper Life have been teaching and standing on consistently for 50 years.

Ọmọ you're just following Kumuyi credulously.

The man has nothing to teach that's why he's using ideas to stigmatize his followers from other religionists. Now that he's about to die he's scared of the unknown that's why he's now changing all the nonsense and ingredients he has infused in the heads of his followers.
Go to any country on this planet and mention the group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" many will start telling you what we believe that no other church believe yet if we don't tell you or if you're not living next to us you can't know us because we do everything normally like all other people it's when it comes to faith that we differ.
A Deeperlifer knows nothing that's wrong with the beliefs of other churches all what you people know is Kumuyi.
Don't drink alcoholic beverages, Don't put on jewelries, Don't use makeup, Don't dress like partying are all Kumuyi's ideas that has nothing to do with Christ or God's word.

If we don't teach you what makes unbelievers in the first century hate Jesus Christ and his disciples you can never ever know you will just continue guessing!

FreedomfromtheT:
I don't know what makes jws think that pastor Kumuyi and Deeper Life members are taking shine from them.

Kumuyi and Deeperlifer that's not known in all the countries of the world like Jesus' true disciples (Jehovah's Witnesses)

Ọmọ you're free to continue deceiving yourself jàre!

FreedomfromtheT:
Don't mind him.
Is this not the same jws member that accused pastor Kumuyi on this thread of allegedly telling his members that they are the only ones going to heaven, that others are going to hell.
Is that not false accusation and hate speech?
Is it not due to the teachings of Deeper Life that people term them 'extremists'?

Kumuyi never opened his mouth to say what he really had in mind all he was doing is setting rules that will make his followers different from others so it's his gullible followers that's thinking they're special due to Kumuyi's ideas. Ọmọ he can't quote anything in the Bible that can make his followers differ from all other religions!