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godliman:
You belong to an extremist group I think

How do you define the word EXTREMIST?

Because from a logical point of view the founder of Christianity is also an extremist that's why he could say to all those old enough to be his grandpa who has been worshiping in the temple where he was dedicated as a baby, he said:

“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" John 14:6

Logically nobody can worship God acceptably without what this young man teaches.
Do you believe his words?
If YES then is he also an extremist or not?

The Bible condemned slavery but it can't work now that the initiator of slavery is the ruler of the world! John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19

The tool Satan is using to manipulate people into slave trade is "money" Satan introduced this tool in order to promote his idea of humans becoming gods over their fellow humans {Genesis 3:5} with money even what people won't accept normally may become a matter to argue upon imagine what is happening in the world today, so many immoral acts are swept under the carpet so far it's the rich that is involved in it.

So God has it in His plans that slavery can't be in God's own government (kingdom) that's what God will ensure in Paradise! Zechariah 3:10; Micah 4:4

Today Satan is ruling over the earth so it's his will that few humans are lords over their fellow humans {Luke 22:25} but under God's own system of rule the rulers must serve their subjects! Luke 22:26

Let it be known that God's word forbids slavery but there's no way slavery can be done away with under Satan's rulership each person privileged will have to decide how to treat less privileged ones around you {Matthew 26:11} but then it should be noted that whatever we sow we will reap {2Corinthians 5:10} when talking about what people sow many feel God will punish them automatically for their wrongdoings but that's not what it means rather God won't shield people when they're being carried away with the greed they sow in their hearts. That's exactly what happened to Judas Iscariot! Matthew 26:14-16 compare to 1Timothy 6:1-10

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses, do you mind if i also participate in the ongoing discussion?

The truth is Satan is disguising as an angel of light {2Corinthians 11:14} Jesus doesn't speak directly with anyone today unless those who comes together in his name! Matthew 18:20
That's why there's contradictions in what most people claiming "PASTORS" are teaching today in the name of Christ! 1Corinthians 14:33

Jesus has ORGANIZED his group today so they speak in harmony {John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10} their teachings is the same everywhere you find them therefore Jesus has sent them to go into every house to declare the Good News of God's Kingdom so when people comes up with this stories it's the work of Satan the Devil.
The so called Muslim cleric will soon become materially rich with this stories because that's what he actually wanted not salvation! Matthew 6:19-21

DCmaverick:
Am a christain and i know lying is a sin, but i do lie to get something from my bo$$.(cus dats de only way). I just want to knw if am offending God

Of course you're offending God because as one of the creatures made in His image {Genesis 1:26} you're supposed to reflect God's qualities {Psalms 31:5} not that of Satan {John 8:44} so by reflecting the attributes of the adversary you saddens God's heart! Proverbs 27:11

But the most important is that by lying you are also offending yourself!

How?

Your boss is an imperfect human who may be deceived with lies to make a wrong decision or judgment due to what he heard unlike God who can see everything {Hebrews 4:13} but as a creature made in God's image he will surely appreciate the truth no matter what happens because that will guide him to make the right decision, so if he realizes that you're always on the side of truth he will have no choice that to trust you with greater things! Genesis 41:44

So don't think of the troubles that comes with telling the truth or doing what is right rather look to God who is the rewarder of all those earnestly seeking Him with all their hearts and He will surely repay you at the best time for you! Hebrews 11:6

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Emusan:
Then you should have limited your answer to them in their respective home or do I resemble any of them?
Good for them.
Delusional.
Did I ask you the question in the first place?Ẹ̀lẹnu shọrọ̀

After all said and done you end up doing what you really wanted to do: abusive speeches!

He makes His rain and sunshine for the benefit of both the good and the bad! Matthew 5:45

FreedomfromtheT:
What makes Jehovah's witnesses the true 'Christians' according to you?

Why not focus on the topic of discussion?

Would you like to know the truth about Jesus being the only way?

JWs proved beyond every reasonable doubt that Jesus is the only way, you don't even need the book (Bible) to prove that all you need is IDENTIFY Jesus' true disciples then compare the movement with all other religions on this planet! Matthew 7:16-18

Emusan:
As if I ask you in the first place
You don't expect me to be convinced with that hogwash. When you're ok provide the right answer!

It's OK, the answer i gave is correct in the minds of millions across the globe as they're making the best use of it and they have formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers with that answer! Isaiah 2:2-4
So if you know a better answer you can share it along with the result after it was PRACTICALLY APPLIED among adherents!

The maker of any product has just one thing to do with his invention:
Provide a manual to guide the user so as make the best use of the product not mishandle or damage it.
So the only way a manufacturer can prove he's the inventor is through the information found in the instructional guidebook, if it works well then there's no need doubting his authenticity!

Emusan:
Just see delusion everywhere
When you're alright, provide the accurate answer!

Your own answer might just be right for you so there's no need worrying over what others think on the topic.
If you're not convinced that's no crime different sects with contradicting opinions!

sonmvayina:
Looks like you are the one who sent him to torment humanity...you seem to know so much about him or her....... Please tell him/her to stop tormenting us...

If you feel it's not true that's not a problem after all there are so many divers opinions about God and Satan coming from thousands of religious groups but if my comments is disturbing you then know that only facts can torment liars!

FreedomfromtheT:
Evangelical Christians are fond of telling people that everyone on the face of the earth MUST believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and personal Saviour, alongside repentance from sin.
They often emphasize, without mincing words, that if one does not accept Christ irrespective of his or her good works, morality or religious affiliation/standing, such a one will end up in eternal doom.
How do you as a non Christian feel about this gospel of the evangelical Christians?

It's not about evangelical rather Jesus himself said it! John 3:16

When i first heard it as a Muslim back then i felt something is wrong with all Christians but when the true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) expatiate on it i can't argue further because i realized it's indisputable fact!

Emusan:
So which earth and heaven was Jesus referring to?

Former Heavens: Human governments that has failed to make life sweet for their subjects with empty promises, they're like the heavens everyone is looking up to for a better living conditions.

Former Earth: Rebellious humans making it difficult for their leaders to provide a peaceful and loving neighbourhood.

New Heavens: God's own government made up of Jesus Christ and his 144,000 co-rulers, they will make this planet a Paradise for everyone living in it.

New Earth: One big and happy family of peace loving people redeemed through the sacrificial death of Christ Jesus, they will make up a peaceful world under the leadership of Jesus and his 144,000 brothers.

Gradually Jesus Christ and his angels are setting apart the New Earth as millions of peace obedient people (SHEEP) are separating themselves from rebellious ones (GOATS) to become part of God's organized people! Matthew 13:30 compare to 25:40, 46

Jehovah is gradually creating the New Heavens with BORN AGAIN Christian brothers of Christ Jesus while Jehovah called His worshipers by another group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" {Isaiah 65:15} New Earth is surfacing globally! Isaiah 65:17

OK!

brocab:
So why do you believe your faith is above everybody else, when in fact they also have faith.
Do you realize the Watchtower retrieves most of their studies from the Catholic Church' do you know' Pope Francis believes all religious and non religious beliefs worship the same God. Pope Francis also claims Jesus is not the only way into God's Kingdom.
Max you also refuse to believe in Jesus we are saved: now we realize that any bible believing Christian knows what Pope Francis believes is untrue. In Jesus we are saved 'He is the only way to the Father.

triplechoice:
You are on your own. Poverty-stricken and very selfish JWs are the ones I know, who like to use JW doctrine as an excuse not to assist those outside their group. The wealthy JW members have no qualms in assisting non members. If you only help your fellow JW, how are you different from a Boko Haram terrorist who would also do the same?

So you know JWs do assist non-jws, shey?

That makes your comment useless because i never said JWs don't help non-jws!

Dunionk30:
That is why I'm advising the op to get back to his faith make Hunger no finish am Oooo, Atheist does not help one another, Gbam! If they could come up with the statement " NO GOD " then if any of them have any Challenges, they have no heart to lift him up or help, Even the ones that Claim to be Atheist On this Platform, All of them have Suddenly Kept off this Thread, Maybe they are reading and remaining Mute due to shame.. ...
Bros the earlier the better ooo you gets back to the Faith Oooo. Hunger no Good ooo, I know you could be having a rethink now... Here no be China where you have lots of Atheist ,Most Naija Atheist are Fake tan

I remember an atheist on this forum who always speak against faith in God but when his wife was in the hospital needing financial support this guy came here on this same forum begging religionists for money with his wife who claims she's a born again Christian both begging for financial assistance to foot the hospital bill. Well trust religionists nah they were giving him in the name of their gods and the funny atheist thanking them in the name of their god!

Dunionk30:
I'm sure if you were an Atheist Turned to Christian ,by now you would have had someone mention he or she wants to help you. But quite funny, No Atheist not even a single one that might have read your Matter have offered to talk about help here ..Chai! Does it means that Atheist does not help one another? U are on your own Oooo, Be like say Atheist are all heartless. .Maybe they sent you a message off here...

The word GOD connotes SUPREME BEING and that means all those believing in this concept believe (trusted) in some reward from the One who is SUPREME {Hebrews 11:6} so for some to declare such a Person doesn't exist then they have nothing to do with rewards for helping or assisting strangers after all no one will pay them back.

Now imagine someone offers to help the atheist expecting his or her God will touch somebody else to help him or her when the need arises the atheist has automatically excluded himself from that scenario claiming there is no God. So how on earth could he be expecting those he's seeing as zombies to help him?

Emir8:
Someone posted this question in a telegram group I'm part of.
Many people responded that whoever commits suicide is going to hell. However, I did a little research on it by asking Google. I was surprised to see in the articles written by foreign religious leaders that suicide doesn't take anyone to hell and they supported their views with a lot of verses from the Bible.

As a Nigerian, do you think suicide take anyone to hell?

The highlighted is a lie, suicide or not all are going to the same place at death: Hell

The problem is many don't know that Hell simply means Grave and nothing more.

All you need now is to see a psychiatrist fast!

"Humans are social animals" so claims atheists if you can't afford to go alone having to do no single thing with those that knows you then it's stupid turning away from what brought them together in the first place.

You can't eat your cake and have it so if you're now saying their God doesn't exist then get ready to do everything without them so you can prove you don't need them nor their God!

SnowBALLPapiey:
Hayyah..
Taink God for your life o..
Name Naija you still dey do AJERI?

It's not difficult if you have a pure heart!

SnowBALLPapiey:
Ughrh!
Muslim background! Muslims aren't bad too though, as e get one babe wen I want take to aisle sef.. How come you come sabi Jeri (Jehova) laidis?
Myndd 44
Seun

That's what happens when talent is wasting in a place where it's not unleashed!

The God of Jehovah's Witnesses noticed me in the wrong place but due to my love for truth He called me into His wonderful light!

The Jesus you love totally differs from the real Jesus of Nazareth, according to what was written concerning him lesbians can't even think of drawing close to him, he will not drive you away but you won't find anything appealing about him.
Today the character Churches of Christendom portrayed as Jesus is their own imaginary figure totally different from the real person.

For instance Jesus won't speak with you if you're not an Israelite {Matthew 15:24} in fact he specifically sent his disciples only to preach to Israelites! Matthew 10:6

Among the Israelites there can't be found a lesbian because it's a taboo among them how can a woman be mating with her fellow woman or man mating with his fellow man?
It's really absurd to them, though there were immoral ones in Israel due to poverty but for anyone among them to choose being a lesbian or gay Jesus emphatically warned them that God is ready to destroy unbelievers just as He did to Sodom and Gomorrah {Matthew 10:15} what exactly was their error?
Well it's lesbianism and homosexuality.

Moreover Jesus wasn't a superstar that Satan and his agents are portraying in their religions today, he was a humble, quiet and easygoing man who has no flair for fame {Matthew 12:19} so you won't even find anything appealing in him!

SnowBALLPapiey:
[1]Oh I see.. You're Jehovah witness?
[2]BTW, why haven't I been seeing them in house to house again? It's been like years I gazed anyone of them
[3]Who is your Minister/Mentor in Christ?

[1] Well let's just say i was once an individual who finds nothing to write home about regarding religion, my parents were Muslims but i just can't wrap my head around what all religionists close to me are saying about God until i met Jehovah's Witnesses that's when i began to reason with what God is all about!


[2] When COVID-19 strike in the year 2019 the GOVERNING BODY of Jehovah's Witnesses (the group overseeing the activities of Jehovah's Witnesses globally) ordered all members to stop preaching in person until further notice and last year precisely March we have started again going from house to house.
But one thing i remembered is that the group began this preaching and teaching from house to house in the year 1919 and 2019 makes a 100 years that Jehovah's Witnesses have been preaching zealously throughout the world, though they didn't celebrate it but COVID-19 forced us to Mark that year 2019 as a century that we've been doing the lord's work!

[3] It's the GOVERNING BODY in USA that's teaching us everything though they do urge us to make personal research so as to be sure of what we're learning from them! Act 17:11

SnowBALLPapiey:
So are you saying Jehovah witness is good or not? I'm just a nominal worshipper doh.. Which congregation can I pitch my tent as a future Adeboye and Co?

If you want to become a popular pastor you only need to know how memorize Bible verses and apply it to whatever people want to hear about fortune then you go for spiritual powers to control your listeners so they can contribute their life savings for you to become rich.

But if you truly want to become a disciple of Christ wait in your house and watch out for Jehovah's Witnesses, they will come and teach you what their leader commanded them {Matthew 28:19-20} so you too can become one of them preaching zealously and teaching industriously in all your neighbourhood, and mind you this has nothing to do with fame or material possessions like private jets.
Nobody will know you're working for Christ apart from your neighbours as you contribute your own quota to the global work carried out by Jesus' disciples {Act 1:8} but as you're sparing your precious time preaching zealously about God's Kingdom angels are writing your name and those listening to you! Malachi 3:16

SnowBALLPapiey:
Meaning I can't just say coz I know few verses of the Bible, then that qualifies me to be a Minister (Ordained) of God right?

YES! You must be taught by the church that's how harmony in thought works {John 17:22} today the spirit calling many is Satan the god of confusion {2Corinthians 4:4} but Satan is disguising as Christ {2Corinthians 11:14} that's why there are lots of contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all in the name of one religion! 1Corinthians 14:33

SnowBALLPapiey:
By your summation, he/she's got to have consolidated traits and teachings of GOD, but what if long in the process he had transgressed so much that their private shenanigans are filthy and it is only the Pastoral Name or church nomenclature they asset

That's what Jesus meant when he said the salt may loose it's taste and become useless {Matthew 5:13} Jesus foresaw that the group he founded will later become something else under Satan's tactics {Luke 18:8} as he initiates his own agents subtly in the gathering of Jesus' disciples {1John 2:18 compare to Matthew 13:25} this ones started their own religion as they separated from Jesus' group {1John 2:19} but when Jesus' group keep exposing them they attacked Jesus' group and scattered those having faith so that real Christianity disappeared during the dark ages.

Jesus later returned a century ago and began restructuring his group by calling faithful individuals out from Satan's deception {Revelations 18:4} today Jesus' group has been completely separated from Satan's agents so God began calling them by another group name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

muyico:
JW didnt blived al dis?

We only believe what Jesus' brothers teaches us {Matthew 24:45} not just every wind of teaching! Ephesians 4:14

greatme2good:
this post just reflected my mind on so many things and I want to ask u op this simple question why does most unbelievers prosper more than believers who are trully serving God. I'm talking from experience.

Prosperity regarding material possessions has nothing to do with your prayers, God owe no one any favour regarding that so if you want to pray think of what ancient servants of God do pray for and why not just wake up and start making demands simply because you're reading the Bible!

SnowBALLPapiey:
I used to hear, " ... Before God called him"
She na through dream, or trance, abi na normal call from God's Ordained already existed Ministers? Make I forgot know BIKO

Surely God is calling everyone to repentance but not the way misinformed churchgoers are claiming today. Before Jesus Christ God always call people through various means {Hebrews 1:1-2} but after Jesus God only call faithful people through the disciples of Christ Jesus as they go about preaching and teaching in their neighbourhood! Romans 10:13-15

When someone has dedicated his or her life to God he or she will start making progress in the Christian congregation this is what will make the elders notice that such one is willing to serve his fellow believers {1Timothy 4:15} true disciples of Christ don't just wake up and start claiming God called them when they had no business with the congregation of God!

The original Bible character called Jesus has been misrepresented by most religious sects claiming denominations in Christendom with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines making it really difficult to ascertain what being a Christian really means.

There's no way a person can become Christian without first knowing what Jesus taught that's why Jesus sent his disciples to go preaching and teaching {Matthew 28:19-20} from house to house {Matthew 10:11-13} according to him all his disciples no matter where they are must have the same line of thought regarding sacred service {John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10} so whatever makes any religion have different opinions on sacred service has nothing to do with Christ Jesus! 1Corinthians 14:33

So to become a REAL Christian Jesus' disciples must speak with you either in your own home, working place or other places (one on one) this is appropriate {Act 8:29-30 compare to Romans 10:14} because you will be able to ask questions about the so called Jesus {Act 8:31} and a real disciple will answer your questions satisfactorily {Act 8:34-35 } it's after the conviction that the decision to become a disciple of Christ makes sense! Act 8:36-38

Today many claiming disciples or Christians do go into the street corners or buses disturbing pedestrians with noise all in the name of Jesus Christ, well it may surprise you that such ones aren't representing Christ because he never taught his disciples to preach that way! Matthew 12:19

Before Jesus Israelite prophets do go into the streets to declare the words of their God since He is their Lawgiver {Isaiah 33:22} so the prophets were acting like His town crier telling the people what their King says! 1Samuel 8:7

But when Christ Jesus was about to establish Christianity he taught his disciples to visit people in their homes instead of shouting in the streets.
WHY?
Well Christianity must be taken to all the nations of the earth {Matthew 28:19; Act 1:8} in places where the people don't know the God of Abraham so the can't recognize His authority, that's why some nations are banning preachers because they already have their own government and rules therefore they find it odd for some people to start shouting in their streets telling them they will be tormented for not adhering to the laws of a strange King (god)

That's why Jesus taught his own disciples to approach a householder with local greetings introduce themselves and start their message. Matthew 10:12

The householder may respond positively since the preacher's is welcoming that's what will lead to further discussions until he is fully convinced that he has found the truth about his Creator! John 8:32

SeniorMan715:
Make he read the verse down to 15

If he does it will confuse him the more and he'll say the whole thing makes no sense to him.
I once explained Psalms 127 to an atheist who said the verses are incoherent starting with watching over a city or building a house to children then archer then gate!

Templee333:
James 5:14 "is there anyone sick among you..." i'm sure you know what your bible instruct you to do except you want to dodge it

Sickness to you means physical inability but in our spiritual language it means weakness in faith. For Instance when Jesus first began speaking the spiritual language his disciples were confused, he said "Lazarus our friend is sleeping" they thought it's not a big issue not until he spoke the general language everyone understands "Lazarus is dead" John 11:11-14

So my friend if we don't teach you what we meant in our book you will continue to argue with yourself expecting us to agree with you.

The sickness there is about weakness in faith due to hidden sin!