₦airaland Forum

tomakint: It is most certain that Sahara Reporters had been bought over by desperados who may likely kickstart the needed Revolution in the history of this country! I think by my last research, Brigadier-General Ihejirika is the best Chief of Army Staff since Nigeria's Independence I wonder why some morons are trying so hard to drag his name in the mud!

I would love to read the report of "your research" on the occupiers of the post of Chief of Army Staff, Nigerian Army.

May his soul rest in peace. Exemplary act, a true hero!

berem: ...the thread still remains in politics section! learn to live with it.

Wassup Chef...

Will it be tax-free?

This will have a higher tax bracket than payroll tax. This will be considered 1099, not W4. By the time IRS send you a bill for their cut you will be lucky if you have $10,000 left, you pay State tax also. It aint worth it!

Shyyt, ex militants are getting paid in millions over here, tax free, plus training abroad to be pilots and engineers.

Im going to keep this straight and short, everything that goes on here in NAIRALAND is mirrored in NATIONAL ASSEMBLY in Abuja - the chaos, disorderly conduct, tribalism, bigotry, backbiting, lobbying, fighting, hooliganism, thuggery, terrorism.

At this point I wonder why we are yet to get a MACE, there are couple of people I want to FLOG.

Propaganda and lies

There is no muslim name called "Mashahideen", neither is it a traditional Hausa or Fulani name. OP made up this story.

Go get a job as a counter-intelligence officer, they are looking for this skill to help in their infiltrate, divide and conquer strategy for fighting political movements.

Has Aso Rock seen this yet?

Cowgirl, send a brochure to Ruben Abati, we can have it customized with the PDP logo. How many thousands of these brand should we order ahead of the release?

redsun: You seem like a spoke person for so many people and sometimes very wrong people.Are a you a human right activist?

Or you just like being noticed?

She's the resident Chef in this room, she has a menu full of dramatix recipes. Always got a fire burning...

That last picture by biafranqueen look like a whorehouse.

Jakumo: Thank you for this explanation, Mayor of Lagos. The physical peril posed by the prevalence of open, un-covered and un-fenced concrete drains along pedestrian thoroughfares in any urban environment is absolutely enormous. Statistics are not kept, but a good guess would be that THOUSANDS of Nigerian pedestrians fall into the open drainage canals that line urban roads throughout Nigeria, resulting in hundreds of permanent injuries and scores of fatalities ANNUALY. Many foreign visitors to Nigeria, un-used to walking down streets riddled with gaping trenches and holes, have fallen into those death traps and wound up dead or deformed for life. Any nation that places such a low priority on protecting the physical safety of pedestrians will have an uphill battle attracting foreign investment.

Nigeria's largely un-covered and un-fenced sewage or drainage gutters generally contain a mix of stagnant, pathogen-infused waste-water and raw sewage that serves as a perfect breeding ground for a variety of deadly, contagious illnesses that contribute in no small measure to the country's low life-expectancy, but that major health threat still ranks a distant second to the ever-present danger of sudden falls into those DEEP open trenches, breaking bones and claiming lives with sickening regularity.

While it is encouraging to see that some parts of some Nigerian cities are beginning to install underground drainage and sewage networks, the sad truth is that MOST roads within the Nigerian federation are STILL lined with the same open sewers that have already cost so dearly in terms of emergency medical care bills, and in human lives. Along the streets of any city you care to mention in the developed world, there simply is no comparable danger to those un-covered drainage/sewage gutters found in Nigeria and other Third World countries. That singular point appears to be lost on the Nigerian PATRIOTS in this forum, who doggedly continue to insist that there ARE open trenches lining streets in the West of their qauint imaginations.

My initial response which drew your outrage was issued based strictly on the utility aspect, but i see your point on the safety and hazards issue. I cannot argue with you on that.

There is no reason concrete slabs should miss from their placements. Who removed them and why? If you follow the trail you will discover that citizens are responsible for creating the hazards, not government. Govt should respond and plug the holes but what responsibility do we as citizens have towards protecting those behind us.

There is a Yoruba adage, eni ja si koto, o ko ara eyin logbon. The one who fell in a pit serves as lesson for those behind. We cant wait for others to learn painfully, our pain should be enough trigger to prevent others from our tragedy. This is simple civic responsibility. Unfortunately we dont have it.

I will support govt repairing and or covering gutters but I also would like to see govt coaching behavior and civic response in society. The two should be done parrallel.

Jakumo: Thank you for this explanation, Mayor of Lagos. The physical peril posed by the prevalence of open, un-covered and un-fenced concrete drains along pedestrian thoroughfares in any urban environment is absolutely enormous. Statistics are not kept, but a good guess would be that THOUSANDS of Nigerian pedestrians fall into the open drainage canals that line urban roads throughout Nigeria, resulting in hundreds of permanent injuries and scores of fatalities ANNUALY. Many foreign visitors to Nigeria, un-used to walking down streets riddled with gaping trenches and holes, have fallen into those death traps and wound up dead or deformed for life. Any nation that places such a low priority on protecting the physical safety of pedestrians will have an uphill battle attracting foreign investment.

Nigeria's largely un-covered and un-fenced sewage or drainage gutters generally contain a mix of stagnant, pathogen-infused waste-water and raw sewage that serves as a perfect breeding ground for a variety of deadly, contagious illnesses that contribute in no small measure to the country's low life-expectancy, but that major health threat still ranks a distant second to the ever-present danger of sudden falls into those DEEP open trenches, breaking bones and claiming lives with sickening regularity.

While it is encouraging to see that some parts of some Nigerian cities are beginning to install underground drainage and sewage networks, the sad truth is that MOST roads within the Nigerian federation are STILL lined with the same open sewers that have already cost so dearly in terms of emergency medical care bills, and in human lives. Along the streets of any city you care to mention in the developed world, there simply is no comparable danger to those un-covered drainage/sewage gutters found in Nigeria and other Third World countries. That singular point appears to be lost on the Nigerian PATRIOTS in this forum, who doggedly continue to insist that there ARE open trenches lining streets in the West of their qauint imaginations.

My initial response which drew your outrage was issued based strictly on the utility aspect, but i see your point on the safety and hazards issue. I cannot argue with you on that.

There is no reason concrete slabs should miss from their placements. Who removed them and why? If you follow the trail you will discover that citizens are responsible for creating the hazards, not government. Govt should respond and plug the holes but what responsibility do we as citizens have towards protecting those behind us.

There is a Yoruba adage, eni ja si koto, o ko ara eyin logbon. The one who fell in a pit serves as lesson for those behind. We cant wait for others to learn painfully, our pain should be enough trigger to prevent others from our tragedy. This is simple civic responsibility. Unfortunately we dont have it.

I will support govt repairing and or covering gutters but I also would like to see govt coaching behavior and civic response in society. The two should be done parrallel.

noblezone: When Mr. President (like a good leader) was being cautious over the Boko Haram menace, the so called "opposition" were wagging their mouth, calling him names!

He requested for dialogue, Boko Haram and their sponsors refused!
He offered pardon, Boko Haram laughed him to scorn and claimed that rather it is Jonathan and Nigeria that needs pardon from Boko Haram.
When diplomacy and negotiations was not helping matters, he declared a state of emergency to the relief many!

Yet these social misfits in the name of "opposition" stood against him!

1. Buhari
2. Tinubu
3. Amaechi and his NGF
4. Ango Abdulahi
5. Lai Mohammed.


Amongst all, Amaechi is an exception because he is using the NGF as a tool of the "opposition"!
Nigerians should check the list of those behind Amaechi and his unclad dance at the market square!

While we are calling of a National Conference to discuss the Nationality of Nigeria, Amaechi and his gang belief that if

The minister of finance will just resign, then all will be well.

These men are DANGEROUS and those patronizing them are the true enemies of Nigeria!

These men are their likes and their nefarious activities are part of the real reasons some of us want Biafra!
It is true that I have no love for Nigeria anymore, but while I still answer Nigeria under duress, it is my duty to point this out:

2015 is fast approaching

Beware of Amaechi and his likes!
Beware of anyone who stood against the state of emergency!

emm Ebuka, Ebuka, please make sure I have enough data subscription,
I don't want to miss radio Biafra by 7.00pm

None of these guys host bokoharam. However, everytime a bokoharam leader has been caugjt, it has been in the home of a PDP stalwart.

Most recently, Mohammed Abacha.

The danger to society are those qho harbor bokoharam, not those who call for resolve to deal with boko.

Kairoseki77: I don't know, but I am sure Lagos will eventually get it sorted out.

I cant remember what kind of gutters Banana Island has. Do you know?

They built that whole thing from scratch, so I hope it has nicer gutters. They are also the same people that are building Eko Atlantic, so I hope to god they don't use open gutters.

Eko Atlantic is zoned. It is expected to have its own grounds facilities management and security with closed circuit tv. The facilities will be buried and due to high visibility not much is expected in way of vandalism, thereby a somewhat high level of safety and guarantee that any investment in facilities will be sustainable.

Jakumo: I'm so sorry, Mayor of Lagos, but I'm going to have to pull out my bullchit whistle and call you out, because open sewers are found EXCLUSIVELY in cities and slums of the Third World, and nowhere else on this green planet. I have either lived in or visited Los Angeles, San Fancisco, San Diego and New York, ALL of which are low-lying coastal cities, and I can attest that there are NO open sewers in ANY of those cities. Having spent time in more than a few coastal towns in the UK as well, I failed to spot a SINGLE Lagos-style open sewer there as well.

In short, your second claim above is blatantly false in every regard, and does not correlate with any reality that can be seen in the developed world. All the same, your valiant attempt to pass off pseudo-science as verifyable fact is understandable, given your obvious love and PATRIOTIC loyalty to Lagos and Nigeria.

Your first assertion about Nigerians being chronic litter-bugs may be true as a stand-alone point of fact, but it still does NOT amount to a plausible reason why Nigerian urban developers have so far failed to adopt the sub-terranian sewage networks that are ubiquitous in the cities and towns of the developed world. The truth is that trash accumulates in ALL sewage disposal networks, and is routinely vacumed out of specially designed UNDERGROUND sumps, by purpose-built city trucks manned by trained crews.

Ive been off the web since and just happened to see this.

The open chanels shown in these pictures are functional water retainers. Im not asking you to look in London or New York, but go look at cities at or below sea level , places like Miami, New Orleans, see how they plan their storm drainage system. I lived in Florida and spent two weekends every month in Miami for four years, never lived in New Orleans but i visited frequently enough to tell you that when you enter these cities and in certain areas of the city you can smell their drainage. Same thing in Savannah, GA and Charleston, SC.

They dont have gutters like we do but they create what is called storm retention areas. At first look they appear to be ponds..but they are not, they are gutter water held back to control drain flow and they are in the open. Thats exactly the same function these gutters in the OPs pictures do.

In a city that gets a lot of rain and where the subsurface water table is high, there is always problem with run off water. If you dont control the flow rate you will end up where there is more water on street surface than there is emptying into canals and streams, a negative drain/flow rate and the water retains on streets thereby degrading road surface and as well creating flood problem.

The gutters you see here in the picture are in a way like mini canals. You leave it open for water evaporation and to minimize gas build up and health problems for population.

You can argue that they could cover it up with slabs. You can see in the picture that some portions indeed have slabs. You can also see where someone had driven over the slabs to park on the grass on a front yard. They are strong for pedestrian weight and traffic but perharps not for vehicles. Repeated drive-over results in damage and cost to replace.

You can also argue that why not use subsurface drain system and then install fluid level valves and pumps to help accelerate emptying. We all know the valves and the pumps will be stolen and govt will be burdened with cost to replace.

My last two paragraphs address behavioral changes in society. The government can do whatever we want, the money is there..but do we have the right state of mind and culture to leave things better than we found them?

In Lagos open gutter is an integrated design for rain water drainage. Lagos State Govt would love to implement a new design with underground drainage and channels, however, two factors make that impossible.

1. War against litters
Numerous campaigns raising awareness to encourage behavioral change towards proper diaposal of waste and recyclables.

2. Sea level.
All cities around the world that are at zero or negative altitude above sea level have somewhat close to an open drainage. On a global level Lagos is not an exception.

Thank God the mace is not nearby.

Afam4eva: How's this an American thing? No nation can be said to be free or tribal, racial or religious bias. In as much as we have to condemn such acts of Racism, we mustn't tie it to a particular country as those are comments of a few Americans and not a true representation of the entire country else, Barrack Obama wouldn't be president. I also find it hypocritical that some people on this thread that have PHD in tribal hate are also lending their voices to the opposite of what they call gospel. In Nigeria, we condemn people just because they're not from our tribe(even though we're all blacks) but have the effrontery to call others racist. I'm sure Indians are also playing the victim card when it's on record that they're one of the most racist country in the world. There's no single Black Indian Actor cos once you're black you're assumed to be ugly and not fit to be something meaningful. When we condemn acts like this, we must search ourselves and ensure that we're not guilty of what we accuse others of doing.

Its human nature, instinctive response to territorial boundaries.

Consider your land as a nip.ple from which you feed and are sustained by mother -Earth. I got my own nip.ple-feed over here but Im not content with mine, my greedy ego wants more and so Im coming to feed on yours. Why should anyone blame you for fighting me off?

Human nature Afam, human nature...

payless: Divide and rule tactics of Jonathan in play here. The last time it happened was 1987. Why now? This is what the Jonathan operatives have been campaigning and looking for. It is muslims vs christians in every political forum or blog you go. You hear things like christian north and yoruba christians vs muslim north and yoruba muslims. It is now here and ready to spread. One thing I know is that; it won't be happening in South-west.

You hit the nail on its head!

They keep changing uniform every five years but their stinking attitude and lack of professionalism remains stagnant and offensive. When are they going to change process?