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LastProphet:
ibos just keep making innocent people feel disgusted about them, ibos had meetings all over the world and unanimously agreed not to vote for buhari in particular and yet the man won, despite this the ibos shamelessly continue to ask buhari for more privileges than even those that voted him, what kind of people behave like this? why do ibos go on like people without advisers? the average south african will tell you the same thing about ibos because they now even know The difference, same thing in Kenya, Malaysia, everywhere nigeria has a bad name its caused by ibos. why cant this people be given their biafra before end of the year?

They don't want Biafra. They cry Biafr Biafra thinking if they say they want to go the rest of the country will beg them and compensate them against leaving.

Instead of begging them Oba said he will fill the Lagoon with them. Yorubas in Lagos carried placards and told them to go. Now instead of rewarding them Junaid told them Nigeria does not owe them anything..and said they can leave and form Biafra if they want to.

Do you see any of them packing yet? The monkees dont want Biafra...its all a noise! Unfortunately for them no one is listening.

Freaks!!

Chapter 3

Application of Criminal Law

 

 

10A.      In this Chapter-

 

                        "Federal law" means any Act enacted by National Assembly having effect with respect to the Federation and any Act enacted before the 1st day of October, 1960, which under the Constitution of the Federation has effect with respect to the Federation;

        

                        "law of a State" means any written law enacted by the House of Assembly of the State or having effect as if it were enacted by the said House of Assembly;

 

                        "law" includes any order, rule of court, regulation or proclamation made under the authority of such law.

 

11.           A person shall not be punished for doing or omitting to do an act of unless the act or omission constituted an offence under the law in force when it occurred.

 

12.          Where by the provisions of any Federal law the doing of any act or the making of any omission is constituted an offence those provisions shall apply to every person who is in Nigeria at the time of his doing the act or making the omission.

 

                With regard to such offences which are of such a nature that they comprise several elements, if any acts or omissions or events actually occur, which, if they all occurred in Nigeria, would constitute an offence, and any of such acts or omissions or events occur in Nigeria, although all pr some of the other acts or omissions or events which, if they occurred in Nigeria, would be elements of the offence occur elsewhere than in Nigeria; then-

 

(1)             if the act or omission, which in the case of an offence wholly committed in Nigeria would be the initial element of the offence, occurs in Nigeria, the person who does that act or makes that omission is guilty of an offence of the same kind and is liable to the same punishment, as if all the subsequent elements of the offence had occurred in Nigeria; and

 

(2)            if that act or omission occurs elsewhere than in Nigeria, and the person who does that act or makes that omission afterwards comes into Nigeria, he is by such coming into Nigeria guilty of an offence of the same kind, and is liable to the same punishment, as if that act or omission had occurred in Nigeria and he had been in Nigeria when it occurred.

 

                But in any such case it is a defence to the charge to prove that the accused person did not intend that the act or omission   should have effect in Nigeria. This section does not extend to a case in which the only material event that occurs in Nigeria is the death in Nigeria of a person whose death is caused by an act, done or omitted to be done, at a place not in Nigeria and at a time when he was not in Nigeria.

 

12A.   (1)       Where by the provisions of any law of a State the doing of any act or the making of any omission is constituted an offence, those provisions shall apply to every person who is in the State at the time of his doing the act or making the omission.

 

  (2)          With regard to any such offence which is of such a nature that it comprises several elements, if any acts or omissions or events actually occur, which, if they all occurred in the State, would constitute an offence, and any of such acts or omissions or events occur in the State, although all or some of the other acts or omissions or events which, if they occurred in the State, would be elements of the offence occur elsewhere than in the State, then-

 

(a)            if the act or omission, which in the case of an offence committed wholly in the State would be the initial element of the offence, occurs in the State, the person who does that act or makes that omission is guilty of an offence of the same kind and is liable to the same punishment as if all the subsequent elements of ,the offence had occurred in the State; and

 

(b)            if that act or omission occurs else where than in the State, and the person who does that act or makes that omission afterwards comes into the State, he is by such coming into the State guilty of an offence of the same kind and is liable to the same punishment, as if that act or omission had occurred in the State and he had been in the State when it occurred.

 

                 But in any such case it is a defence to the charge to prove that the Focused person did not intend that the act or omission should have effect in the State. This subsection does not extend to a case in which the only material event that occurs in the State is the death in the State of a person whose death is caused by an act, done or omitted to be done, at a place not in the State and at a time when he was not in the State.

 

13.           Any person who, having while out of Nigeria procured another to do or omit to do in Nigeria an act of such a nature that if he had himself done the act or made the omission in Nigeria, he would have been guilty of an offence, afterwards comes into Nigeria, is by such coming into Nigeria guilty of an offence of the same kind, and is liable to the same punishment, as if he himself had done the act or made the omission in Nigeria.

 

                         Any person who, having while out of Nigeria counselled or procured the commission of an offence which is actually committed in Nigeria, afterwards comes into Nigeria, is by such coming into Nigeria guilty of an offence of the same kind, and is liable to the same punishment, as if he had been in Nigeria when the offence was committed.

 

(2)         In this section, "offence" means an offence against any Federal law.

 

13A.        The provisions of section 13 shall apply in relation to Offences against a law of the State as they apply in relation to offences against a Federal law but as if references to Nigeria were references to the State.

 

14.           Any person who while in Nigeria procures another to do an act or make an omission at a place not in Nigeria of such a nature that, if he had himself done the act or made the omission in Nigeria, he would have been guilty of an offence, and that, if he had himself done the act or made the omission, he would have been guilty of an offence under the laws in force in the place where the act or omission is done or made, is guilty of an offence of the same kind, and is liable to the same punishment, as if the act had been done or the omission had been made in Nigeria.

 

14A.        Any person who while in a State procures another to do an act or make an omission at a place not in the State of such a nature that if he had himself done the act or made the omission in the State he would have been himself guilty of an offence against a law of the State, and that, if he had done the act or made the omission he would have been guilty of an offence under the laws of the place where the act or omission is done or made, is guilty of an offence of the same kind, and is liable to the same punishment, as if the act had been done or the omission had been made in the State.

 

15.           Members of the armed forces and of the police forces of Nigeria are subject to the special laws relating to the forces to which they respectively belong, but are not exempt from the provisions of this code.

 

16.          (Repealed by No. 43 of 1945.)

On this topic, its a simple clarification.

There are several independent accounts of who occupied Lagos, who owns Lagos, who owns the throne, who the land barons are, who the elites and socialites of Lagos are....and uptil today none of it has Ibo in the numbers.

Ibo is excluded in the who is who of Lagos! So what else do we need to discuss about ownership of Lagos?

Bloody Lagooners!!
Crazy Five Percenters ....

Jman06:
we dey fear them yet slaughtered many of them for 3 years during the war. Go to sabongari market in kano and find out how Igbo guys tamed your masters from harassing them and their businesses.
Many of them have been slaughtered severally during reprisal attacks in Aba,owerri and Onitsha.
On daily basis, Nnamdi kanu heaps insults upon insults on Hausa Fulani yet you keep talking trash.
So you see why it didn't make sense to reply the op in the 1st place?

Why are Ibo leaders famous for fleeing pressure zone

Ojukwu fled twice, once to avoid confrontation with Murtala, then second when his Biafra collapsed.

Azikiwe fled and refused to come back until Ironsi had taken over government.

Mbadiwe fled and his whereabouts could not be ascertained after the July coup.

Now Kanu has fled and refused to come back and speak like a man.

Filthy Five Percenters!! Cowards!!!

The pioneer of Nigerian theater and screen movies!

Herbert Ogunde, Sun re o!

1. Buhari does not owe Ibo anything, not a post, not a explanation, not a proof!

2. Buhari is responsible only for probing his immediate predecessor. If anyone wants Obasanjo probed, that's Jonathan's job. It would have been Yaradua but he is not alive, therefore Jonathan should probe Obasanjo.

3. Ibos are supposed to be in opposition, not in rebellion. Make up ya facking mind if you want Nigeria or Biafra. If it's Biafra you want then focus on that and leave Buhari alone, he is not your President.

Crazy five percenters!!

Ohh really??
Yorubas wrote and asked to be colonized...but Ibos gave Britain the most rebellious resistance anywhere on this planet....

No worries, I will go in my archives and pull the facts and bring back here as a #MythBust.

Where are the famous Nairaland #Mythbuster Corps? We got another one brewing....look for an upcoming episode on how Yorubas repelled Royal Navy and Ibos served as their porters (alaru).

here:
"but a member may before taking the oaths take part in the election of a President and a Deputy President of the Senate, as the case may be, or a Speaker and a Deputy Speaker of the House of Representatives"

The law is subject to interpretation and where there is such they might seek interpretation and all actions taken by anyone to interprete personally shall be sanctioned. Notice the above bolded, it can also be said to mean ordinary business(taking of seat) of every elected member is assumed to mean the first seating after the election of the officials, also it is left for the CCB to comeup to say if a law was breached and charge such members to the tribunal if need be; but again it can be an issue that the elected members are new in town and had no official residence and hence were on transit until after settling in so had no personal fund to move around moreso have been engaged officially at ICC for their induction programme which always ends during official hours and CCB offices always closed at 5pm or even worse case they have filed and signed in court but the aides failed to deliver it for some administrative reasons. The court will be convinced to see the date on the forms when signed in court(which you know our country, a specific court can backdate and sign).

These are just few of the many ways, I just wish we can let this pass and focus on the real business of governance and legislative duties

Note the criminal code:
" 22. Ignorance of the law does not afford any excuse for any act or omission which would otherwise constitute an offence, unless knowledge of the law by the offender is expressly declared to he an element of the offence.
25. A person who does or omits to do an act under an honest and reasonable, but mistaken, belief in the existence of any state of things is not criminally responsible for the act or omission to any greater extent than if the real state of things had been such as he believed to exist. "

From the way you referenced Constitution I'd hate to hire you as a lawyer if you were one. Compare your motor park style reference to OPs....yours lack Chapter, title, sub section, paragraph and whatever else is supposed to include.

If you defend a person for court the client go end up in prison behind your carelessness.

Who sent you to school sef? Ehn...?

barcanista:
The Constitution is very clear! There is no ambiguity here, the APC trolls are only trying to encourage themselves in the face of hopelessness.

Dude,
This is APC administration, not PDP. Under this Executive power and Legislative majority accountability and responsibilty will be a top down and bottom up exercise.

If you recall the first thing the President Vice President did was file their declaration. Please do not inject your rogueness and lack of civic responsibility into this government, we are intent on cleaning up the mess you made of this country in 16yrs....the brooms are ready to sweep corruption and irrespinsibility out of the Natiinal Assembly. This OP is on point to ask if any of the Senators and Reps have filed their declaration before they started conducting business in the hallowed chambers. They should follow example from the Executive.

So barcanista, have these members, APC, PDP, LP, APGA....have they filed and declared their assets?
Nonsense!

Hmm, na wa o, see research!

OP,
You are a man. Men process their sorroundings and expression of it sternly. Women do not process...they feel.

The girl was able to connect in her feelings with the sound...to her "ju" posesses a sensuality that "you" does not offer in a position where she needs to project sexuality and submission.

Take note...start feeling women, instead of trying to reason with them and your path will be paved with honey and unforgettable ecstacy. She was expressing sexuality and you could have gone home with that girl if you played the card right.

MzMayD,
I agree. Let me correct and say crime is not seen as normal anyday, we have customs that say these things are unacceptable and as well laws that make crime punishable. The problem we have is laxity in enforcement and as well a penchant for living beyond our means. The society glorifies material success while people of character are sidelined.

Of course you know there is nothing called a "Nigerian society". Each part of the country has a society that is native to the customs of the land and is guided to a large degree by the ethos of that land. For example in my own society palm wine is acceptable as a beverage but drunkeness is not. In the core North society palm wine is not acceptable as a beverage and no kind of intoxicants is allowed but we both occupy the same country. Owambe is a cultural phenomenon and the undercurrent for bonding the Yoruba commonwealth fast to our customs and political unity. In the East the society has no need for such bonding and they see owambe as a wasteful and diversionary practice.

So when we discuss Nigeria as a society, you hit the nail on the head, there are commonalities regardless if you are East, North or West, in which everyone agrees and are consistent. Palm wine is good for Yoruba but Hausa sees it as ignoble. Owambe is very good for Yoruba but Ibo sees it as ignoble. Stealing is not good for Yoruba, kidnapping and using human for rituals is not good for Yoruba, consumption of narcotics or trading in them for profit is not good for Yoruba, armed robbery is not good for Yoruba....but increasingly we find Yoruba participating in these acts. The Yoruba national pledge is the doctrine of Omoluabi. Any act in contradiction of the pledge is an act against the land.

Remember that I singled out Yoruba to facilitate the discussion you and I are having and Im very intimate with my own society far more than I am with others and have no true knowledge and liberty to inject their anti-social behaviorals in here.

So in conclusion how did the drug dealer become a norm and elite of society?

For the Yorubas there are two direct contributors:
1. Praise singing of criminals by live bands at parties and on albums.
2. Cultural laxity and over ambition.

In Corporate Industries leaders are expected to be smart troubleshooters...the ones that take up challenges boldly and damn the risks! When trouble and scandal come knocking they are also expected to be sharpshooters....that is, to have the discernment to see the devil before anyone else and to steer him safely away before he has set foot through the door.

Sowore is a damn good troubleshooter but scandal is at his doorstep....let's see how competent he is at handling scandals.

MzMayD:
you are right op.

The change starts with us. if we can see what is right, do what is right and obey what is right. The country will be better for us all.


but the question is .....


What is right ?


people do some things that are morally wrong yet they are seen as normal. little wonder when a former President once said stealing is not corruption, just like a principal once said malpractice in external exams is not bad. Same goes for a father who asked his daughter to lie to a friend that he has gone out.


Rules are created to be broken says a law enforcement agent because the accused is his cousin.

these behavior needs to be corrected from the grass root. Starting from us!!!


Support change!!!







Team scent.

Right or to use a more technical term, Propriety, is a socially negotiable topic. A society borrows from its norms, rites, customs, philosophy, beliefs, to define what is acceptable in public display of character, action and conduct.

Bukola Saraki reminds me of MKO, except that Bukola's sense of loyalty is loose, whereas Abiola will die in loyalty to his friends.

Bukolagoes wherever his bread is buttered, even against principles.

Please read this article. It will be nice to pin it up on front page for awareness and support.


https://www.nairaland.com/2363066/low-hanging-fruit-key-change#34517228

ProfCorruption,
There is nothing wrong with the length of this input.

If you've read the entire Nigerian Constitution and you are not bored then this article should not bore you, and if it happens youve not read the entire Constitution then you have not completed your civic obligation to the land.

This author did a good job and Im going to hope that this submission gets to VP and that it gets to the President. It is inputs like this that turn into policy and then succesfully adopted into doctrine for social progress.

The author is not denying that that myriads of problems exist but there is a baseline and when properly treated as he recommended, criminals are picked up at petty offenses and locked away to save society from their bigger and more volatile assaults.

Oklahoma 1995...Federal Building was bombed and fingers pointed to Muslim terrorists. Just few miles away Timothy McVeigh was stopped for minor traffic offense and taken away to jail. He never came out, he was executed for the crime. His arrest killed their plan to bomb other targeted Federal Buildings.

People must use the road for movement. The road itself is a place of exchange....its a market!

No need to add to the author's input...it is suffice and appropriate in its conclusions. Lets support it upward to Aso.

Kudos to the author. I read everyword, this is a diagnostics of why society is rotten and he gave prescription on what to do to fix it.

Please move to front page and pinup for broad awareness and response.

dckelvin:
Biafra is our stake.

...and thats what OP is talking about. So get off your soapbox about Yorubaland and start talking Biafra to the OP.

To those posting pictures, OP says you have visionless and incompetent leadership. Your villages are no comparison to cities in the West. You have a warped understanding of what a city is. Let's even say you have a city....how does it translate to good governance?

Ok, so you have the best cities in the world but you have been squeezed out of political relevance and slowly displaced from 3rd to 4th majority by those whose cities are far less developed than yours and moreover their cities sustain you, not yours....so what have you really gained in this country? To survive in Nigeria you must have power. Where is your stake?

FKO81:
Ediot I know you are the one that used another name to write that rubbish, I know you guys like back of my scrotum.

I am never shy to bash Ibo in my own handle...in fact i take pride in doing so, so the whole of Biafra know how Mayor feel about Ibo. It is below me to hide behind another handle and hate Ibo. Take note!

This OP is sn Igbo son and opened a thread to vent his concerns, all of which are relevant and precise, instead of responding to his address, monkeeys jumped in and started blaming Yoruba.

Samunique:
Sex with an eleven year old girl?

No surprise FFK, or what do u expect when a muhammedean is on the throne of authority?

To me it's not a shocker, expect more of this kind of Barbarism during this regime!!!!

The seating Senate that passed the law is PDP. We are yet to inaugurate the 8th Assembly. The law was passed by the 7th, same party with FFK and Jonathan.

If i were the Governoror or President and i hear this I would send a plane to go and bring her home.

If you read what OP posted and understand it well it is obvious Yorubas are calling for several things, amongst which is...

1. The recognition that each ethnic group has capabilities which is best expressed when it faces inward and expends it internally to itself.
2. The differences between the ethnic groups are so extreme in similarities that a co-belonging and co-sharing in each others culture and customs in a cosmopolitan mesh is inefficient and benefits no one in the end.
3. The experiment of a unified Nigeria, whether under military or civilian rule is a pretense. A people must live in truth, not in pretense, as truth is what prospers the land.
4. Each ethnic group is focused on fear and suspicion of the other for access into power and control, thereby destroying its self capacity and usefullness culturally to its native domain, and broadly to everyone else.

Anyway, thanks Dollyak for your contributions.

I believe Biafra of Ojukwu would have ended in catastrophy if it had succeeded in bevoming a sovereign back then. The Biafra of today will be much diffrrent due to lessons learnt over the years and the fact the Osus are empowered now and will rebel against any attempt to return them into a social caste on their land....a feat that would be impossible in a Biafra of the 60s.

BuddahMonk:
Even Cartoon Riot , Reinhard Bonke and Miss World Riots Yolobass were not killed they were handed buckets of chocolate to lick while the NYSC election violence of 2011 Yolobass were handed Kirishi and Suya to be eating and watch while Igbos were killed.

Oooops I forget Ibadan traders where Igbos, Ore Massacre were Igbos, Oshogbo and Ilorin of April, Ekiti fracas of last week Igbos were targeted, Mile 2 killing I guest an Igbo was a victim, the number of pastors killed in North since Boko Haram were mainly Igbos abi, even the young lady shot at close range while preaching and sharing Rhapsody of Miracle was an Igbo. ?

You have every right to be a coward by denying being oppressed but respect our right to remind you of your "monopoly of cowardhood".

There were occassions in which Yoruba ana Hausa or Yoruba and Fulani, or Yoruba and Hausa and Fulani combined have faced-off DIRECTLY with one another. Regardless of the outcome we have never called it a "Hausa/Fulani killing Southerners" or labeled it a "Northerner against Southerner" uprise, riot, fight, war,....or whatever label you choose to call it. You can go as far back into the Ilorin house coup if you want and all the way forward to today, 03/06/2015. I dare you to name one instance Yoruba and Northerners warred or had riot or uprising and we Yoruba ganged other ethnics into our camp and expanded it as a Southern thing.

During our skirmish with Hausa in Idi Araba there were Ibo victims, even though they were not the target. Same thing in Agege. There were Ibos killed in Kano when Hausa went after Yorubas in retaliation for Idi Araba. We never expanded it, we took ownership and agreed our brothers were killed in North.

There is no way a cross ethnic riot in a populous city will happen and you will not end up with collaterals affecting non-parties in the confrontatiin. To assume otherwise is myopic.

Targeted and collateral are two different aspects in the history of ethnic wars and riots in Nigeria.

Ibo on the other hand is always ready to shake off ownership of its confrontational losses and spread the casualties to include Yorubas. Everytime you are killed by Hausa you start looking for story to attach Yoruba to it. You go to extremes and even call it a Southern casualty.

Even in riots that dont concern you, you try to squeeze yourself in as a co-victim. Two weeks ago in Ekiti riot, a face off between Hausa and Yoruba, but before either onehad taken toll of its losses Ibojumped into press and called itself a victim.


Assess for yourself and get assistance from your co-travellers who are cheering you to give thought.....who is a COWARD, the ethnic group that owns its victories and losses or the one who never gets a victory but losses and is ever ready to hang the losses on others neck?

More to come.....

BlackTechnology:
Very soon , Yorubas will see this new " Change " hunt and hurt them.

Afonja Awo and Mko betrayed their southern comrades only to die miserable for their treachery and put their people in harms way.




Tinubu you are next

Who is your southern comrade, what south?

We have never been southerners.....always and forever a Yorubaland, and in Nigeria, a Westerner.