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WaffenSS:
Predestination means the lack of freewill and where all paths that man follows are predetermined.

Therefore if the paths and actions of man were already laid out for him even before he was created, then his choices are a mere illusion, and the idea that man will be rewarded with heaven or punished with hell based on false choices is a contradiction.

In predestination man's fate is sealed, and his choices are mere pebbles in the stream of time.

Then you see the lie of the devil prompting men to believe in their free will, which is a lie and an illusion as you put it.

Hell is created as a result of those who propagate such lies. A will that goes against God's will

xcabczyxabczzzz:
Then everything is justifiable.

only the things predestined by God are justifiable

onlyinJESUS:
There's no free will here on Earth

there is free will on earth
The Lord's prayer: let God's will be done on earth

xcabczyxabczzzz:
Thought?

I don't think so
But there will be freedom in God's will
So No, no man's will

WaffenSS:
Depends on what his plans are.

if his plan means predestination of man then heaven is a contradiction.

It's not everyone that is predestined by God

Good morning

Good morning

congratulations
A good woman becomes a better as a wife and the best mother So also a good man becomes a good husband and a great father.
It's good to marry well and wisely.

Blessed morning to you all

Blessed morning to you all

Blessed morning to you all

Blessed morning to you all

Blessed morning to you all

The great majority of affairs rarely occur solely on the basis of physical attraction. They usually start out with a little chemistry during a time of vulnerability. But at times families breakup because very good, godly people simply haven't learned what to do in a situation where it suddenly feels so good to get some of that eros out. They confuse infatuation with love and make foolish decisions.



Illustration one
A woman goes to a Bible study and on her way home she glances over and sees a guy in another car. They happen to pull into the same coffee shop. He gallantly opens the door for her and says, "I guess great minds work in the same way. Had to have my coffee."
Their eyes meet.
She smiles in response to the courtesy and the compliment.

No big deal, but his kindness and her response indicates there is chemistry.

The next week she finds out that his office is in the same complex as hers because they spot each other on the way to their cars.
He laughs and says something like, "Don't I know you from somewhere? Race you to the coffee shop?"
Their eyes meet again.
The comment sounds innocent, but to someone in a certain frame of mind, going through an empty emotional time, it holds a promise of something nice

Now that woman is a wise Christian believer who knows Christ in a deep way. She inwardly reasons she would never do anything to jeopardize her marriage or dishonor the Lord. But you can also see the attraction of infatuation. She is vulnerable, lonely, feeling unappreciated at home.

She's flattered by the attention. Faced with the prospect of going home to a familiar coldness, the temptation of the unfamiliar warmth of the coffee shop and a kind stranger seem interesting. Convinced(or trying hard to convince herself) this could never lead to anything more than a casual friendship, the dance begins.


What is happening is quite natural, which makes going through it unawares particularly dangerous.


Illustration two

A similar danger awaits the man who is under a lot of pressure at work. He may be going through a time of confusing changes. Job security, mounting expenses, growing and demanding kids that seem to consume his wife's energy, and a marriage which has developed a dullness all contribute to his vulnerability.

He can't remember the last time he made love with his wife.

He's frustrated but doesn't know how to talk about it.

He has buried the hurt and desperation down inside.

He keeps pouring himself into his work, tries to be a good dad, and finds temporary relief in an occasional games and night football. (Most times what many people need is a breathing space, a private place away from every pressure we face, it could even be our prayer closet, a place we get to laugh with God and receive the peace of Christ)


Then he notices someone at work who really seems to listen to him. She finds ways to be helpful and encouraging (things he experts from a helpmeet). She compliments his efforts, his skills, and how nice he looks in that shirt.

He begins to look forward to spending his days at the office with her.

He wonders if it would be appropriate, simply as a way of saying thank you, to suggest they have lunch together sometime.

There would be no harm in it. He's been a Christian for seventeen years, serves in the church, and has three kids. He'd never let this friendship move beyond . . .

and the dance begins.



Those apparently innocent and fun choices end up destroying children, breaking up a good thing that just needed some attention, and embarking on what turns out to be a painful series of shameful disappointments. (Making front page of new papers, gossip blogs, tabloids or Nairaland front page)

How often does this happen? Just look at the
number of broken families that you know personally.

The life cycle of infatuation is nine to eighteen months. Then all those breathless and wonderful feelings leave, and you're stuck with another person with the same kinds of needs that you have. That person knows you can't be trusted because you left your last mate. You know you can't really trust them because, down deep, you're afraid of experiencing the kind of betrayal that you inflicted on someone else.

What's left are two unhappy people struggling with character flaws. Because they don't know the difference between a temporary relief infatuation brings from the lasting peace genuine love offers, so when life piles it's pressure they sacrifice what is valuable and important for what is selfish. Many have grown up not understanding the difference and believing that infatuation is love, so even when they were married, to someone who might have as well just been infatuated with them at the time, be it happy or in tough times, when they meet someone new and are infatuated with they tend to think "oh, this is the true love I missed".
Growing up with people, parents, relatives, friends that say they love you based on only what they can get from you, clouds the mind into thinking love is about what we desire, that love is infatuation.

If you don't know the difference between infatuation and love, you'll destroy others' lives and your own.

drezzyx:
FVCK LOVE I AN DONE TRYING.

you were trying the world's way, try God's way

Lightangel65:
Infatuation is the only form of love that exists in a man's heart. Loving someone without a reason like being family, cute, rich, partners, idol, friends. Is impossible for mankind

True love is restricted to God, nature and death.

that's where you're wrong.
That might be the only love you've experienced doesn't mean it's the only one that exists. Infact you must have experienced other types of love like phileos and agape but not recognize it because of your belief.

Lightangel65:
Love exists in nature, but not in the heart of men.
What men call love is just hormones talking.

Love exists only in death

what you're writing about is infatuation, there's a difference infatuation and love

Agape Love—The Love Of Sacrificial Commitment
The third kind of love captured in the Greek language is called agape love. This is giving love also known as Charity. It acts unilaterally, meaning this love reaches out even if the person being loved doesn't recognize the love.

Agape love gives even when the partner doesn't respond as hoped. It's giving and meeting the real needs of another and helping that person to become a better, more mature individual. It is selfless love.

Agape love takes the initiative and energizes the other two kinds of love. The classic biblical passage that outlines this kind of love, unfortunately, has been trivialized. Instead of being lived out by us as believers, it is found mostly on little plaques, posts, status updates, tweets and texts.

Think what would happen in a relationship between a man and a woman if what you are about to read described how they actually treated each other in the ups and downs of daily life.
Love is patient,
love is kind.
It does not envy,
it does not boast,
it is not proud.
It is not rude,
it is not self-seeking,
it is not easily angered,
it keeps no record of wrongs.
Love does not delight in evil
but rejoices with the truth.
It always protects,
always trusts,
always hopes,
always perseveres.
Love never fails.
1 Corinthians 13:4-8a

Phileo love is a friendship love that requires a high level of mutuality—we give, expecting something in return. But agape love is when you give, not because your mate has done something nice or because he or she is wonderful all the time, but even at times when your mate has wounded you.

This agape love, is a God-given, supernatural, and unconditional love. The 1 Corinthians 13 passage says that, first of all, love is "patient." We could stop right there. Patience means putting up with a lot of junk over a long period of time and not retaliating.

Next, the passage says "love is kind," which means that it not only looks for positive ways to express concern and meet needs but also lacks any hint of envy, jealousy, boasting, pride, rudeness, self-seeking, quick temper, recorded offenses, or delighting in evil.

In agape love, the relationship is not about you. It's not about your life or about what you can get. It's about how you can serve the other person. When you love this way, you're not easily angered. You don't blow up. You don't pout. You don't give up and take your ball and go home.

Agape love "keeps no record of wrongs." It makes allowances for others' shortcomings and mistakes, like we want them to make for us when we fail. "Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth"—not "See, I caught you" but "You know what? You're busted and I love you. How can we work this out?" It's the kind of love that looks past the other's failure, that believes in them when they don't even believe in themselves.
This is the kind of love that is so powerful that it "never fails." It says, "No matter what, I'm with you." That's what agape love is —the love that keeps on giving and giving.

Eros love has to do with heightened emotions and raw attraction.
Phileo love has to do with friendship, communion, and sharing.
Agape love has to do with unconditional loyalty and sacrificial commitment.

In fact, agape love can be summed up best by the following statement: It's giving others what they need most when they deserve it the least. If you thought to yourself after you read this post, That sounds impossible, you're right! Agape love is impossible! Agape love cannot be manufactured by human effort or willpower.