Christianity Etc › Re: Why You Should Stop Paying Tithes And Offerings, Seed Sowing And Special Donatio by MightySparrow: 8:55am On Jul 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: In a nutshell you're not against the believe of anyone. So why creating threads against other people's conviction? Or you don't think Muslims should be given the right to live their conviction?  Am I against the conviction of Muslims to steal, kill, and destroy? I really should not have problem with Muslims or any sect of any religion. But, when you talk ill about my believe,. I will resist you as I will to the devil. Muslims don't only live their conviction. They criticize the veracity of the Bible and still use it to justify the prophet hood of Mohammed. Here I don't attack Muslims but because of Antichristian. So? |
Politics › Re: Federal Government Repays $500 Million Eurobond Borrowed In 2013 by MightySparrow: 8:48am On Jul 13, 2023 |
naijapikin2: Hmmm This tinubu has started on a good footing. It's too early to say o. That's how baba buhari started too. Let's wait and see. Not the one that he will now go back in 3 years time to borrow borrow and borrow us to slavery Buhari, a soldier trained to kill and loot. Tinubu an accountant, trained to be prudent with scarce resources. They are different, differently. |
Business › Re: Number Of Business Enterprises Registered In States In Nigeria by MightySparrow: 8:45am On Jul 13, 2023 |
BNewsNg: I foresee a tribal war Yes, none the chest beaters' states made first ten. They should leave our Oyo, Ogun, Lagos, kwara for us. But without us, they can't survive. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why You Should Stop Paying Tithes And Offerings, Seed Sowing And Special Donatio by MightySparrow: 8:23am On Jul 13, 2023 |
FRANCISTOWN: Hi guys! I asked someone ( a Christian now) whether he believes in money ritualism (as in blood money). He answered with "yes".
So I asked him, "where will the money come from, will it rain from heaven like manna? Even if? There is no bank that prints bills in heaven"
So he answered and said "it's not like that, you know? Favour will just keep coming your way, and least expected people will gift you money"
I laughed and asked him again "Don't people who aren't ritualists enjoy some kind of favour and cash gifts as well?"
He said "yes, they do but not on the same levels".
So that brought me to this.
Don't be deceived. There is nothing like blood money or money ritual.
Money comes to you thru several ways 1. You either earn it (work for it) 2. You are gifted(not always consistent) 3. You might find it coincidentally(very very rare) 4. You borrow it 5. You beg for it .
Have you ever wondered why many Nigerians are poor? It's simple, instead of them to work and think innovatively. They think one imaginary drunken sky daddy will bless them, so their pastors con them , deceive them and brainwash them into paying tithes and offerings.
Let's do a simple maths.
For someone who earns ₦50000 monthly, His tithe and offerings every month, aside seed sowing and donations is ₦6000
Now for a whole year ₦6000 × 12 = ₦72, 000
Let's say the person has worked for 10 years and has been a faithful tither. ₦72,000 × 10 = ₦720,000.
Now let's say this same person got the job @ 26years. At 36, he has ₦720,000 In Nigeria, even with this current economy. You can start several side hustles with that amount. You can go into cowpeel (ponmo) business. You can open a small shop, and start selling rice at a discount sale price. You can go into animal husbandry, poultry even fishery(though that's time consuming). You can rent a land and plant vegetables (those ones don't waste time) so much more you can do.
Instead of your pastors to teach you these things. They'd rather you bring that 10% to church and expect one imaginary friend to bless you. Ha! If their god was capable of blessing anybody, he should start from the church. He shouldn't need your 10%.
Now ask yourself, If tithes and offerings makes for blessings. Christians should be the richest in the world. Your tithes and offerings are as impotent as your god.
The more you pay your offerings, the more broke you are.
Save up your tithes for 10 years , and even the interest on it alone is encouraging.
Money doesn't come by magic, it comes by simply understanding the principle. Money has a principle.
One of these days I'll share how I became very rich from nothing at 21. How I lost everything before 24. How I became rich again and still lost everything.
Though it's hard getting up now, but I've been up twice, and I'll be up again. Trust killed me. I learnt a terrible mistake, now I'm wiser. The only thing you should trust in life is yourself.
Now mind you, some people pay more than 10% as tithes. Go to mosques. They also make daily contributions, just that it's minimal compared to the christians.
Any sensible person knows money cannot be literally sown as seeds. It won't germinate, there is no law of nature that makes money germinate. Your tithes and offerings are helping your pastors, not your god. Your God doesn't live.
Do you think the god of the whole world would require your money? Dey play.
No God has the ability to bless any human, do you know why? They don't exist.
Take charge of your life now. Don't depend on fairies, you'll be disappointed.
Good morning I wish your experience were a gospel truth. That is your expectation.. In Africa, we are deep rooted in spirituality. To say there is no blood money, you are joking Sir! Only teach us what you know and stop rationalizing what you don't. You were up twice, God will raise you up again. Giving to God or gods is a practice as old as man's existence. It cuts across every race and clime, and time. You would discover that shrines and mosques and cathedrals and temples are atimes the most beautiful buildings in most places. So, people believe in the invisible God/ gods for blessings. I do also. Your calculations are reasonable. Have you ever thought of an energetic man sleeping with a perfectly beautiful woman, married as virgins and perfectly healthy, yet no child? I guess you might have seen people more intelligent than you and with less achievement than yours. Possibly also, people you consider yourself wiser than but have better achievements. Life's graph is never a straight line through the origin. Let people live their conviction. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Benefits Of Religion by MightySparrow: 8:02am On Jul 13, 2023 |
sonmvayina: What is the benefit of slave trade? It was a trade. The sellers and buyers made money. What is the benefit of baby factory business? The white bought what we displayed as commodity. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Some Benefits Of Religion by MightySparrow: 7:57am On Jul 13, 2023 |
Chronosvineberg: You do have a point, ever since I left Jesus and started my romance with the devil. Na me and shege de live o Find your way back to Jesus nah! A problem known is half solved. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Online Morning Prayers Want To Useless My Wife by MightySparrow: 7:52am On Jul 13, 2023 |
pikechukwu6: My wife keep joining online prayers leaving her womanhood
One pastor that make prayers on Facebook every week days.... Monday till Friday...starting from 7am till 9:30am. My wife keep listening to this pastor every morning leaving everything she supposed to do as a woman in the house.
still sowing seed to the pastor she never attend his church.
Please how can a sane person wake up from sleep and remain praying with a pastor online, forgetting to move out and look for what to eat? I open a shop for her, but she open her shop by 10am or 11am sometimes 12pm.
Seriously am tired because I have tried to convince her politely,even used Bible to back up my advise but no way
Pls, I really need advice. She may be doing the prayer for you. For protection against your imaginary ' enemies ' or your 'friends' that are her imaginary rivals.  |
Crime › Re: Thunderstorm Kills Three Suspected Kidnappers In Kwara by MightySparrow: 7:44am On Jul 13, 2023 |
illicit: Thunder strike any tribalist that will enter this thread... Na you send thunder to the kidnappers? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Religion Has Finished My Mother.. by MightySparrow: 7:32am On Jul 13, 2023 |
TakeNigeriaBack: If you're an African and you're a Christian, you're NOTHING but a European/Jewish slave. . African and Muslim.....? African and Buddist.....? African and Ogun worshipper....?  |
Crime › Re: 29-Year-Old Man Kills His Friend In Imo, Sells Organs For ₦1.5M by MightySparrow: 7:23am On Jul 13, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Shettima Disrespect Christians Attends Church With Hat by MightySparrow: 7:10am On Jul 13, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Jesus is coming with his rewards like a thief at night {1Thessalonians 5:2} so blessed is anyone who keeps his garment unstained! Revelations 16:15
If Jesus commanded his disciples not to kill but you're talking about him taking too long then how do you prove to be faithful to the Prince of Peace?
When i tell you that you're not a believer you're often provoked can you imagine you who claims to be a Christian asking such question? 
Well Armageddon is the war of God Almighty {Revelations 16:14-16} all false religionists on this planet will gather their weapons and start hunting Jehovah's Witnesses that's when Jesus will come with his angels to fight in our behalf because we have obeyed him to the end {Matthew 24:13} Jehovah will fight for us {Exodus 14:14} just as He sent Jesus to fight in behalf of His people in ancient times leading them {Exodus 13:21; 14:19} to salvation {Daniel 12:1} because we have shown true faith in His son! Isaiah 26:3 compare to John 2:16 in Delusion. I laugh in JW's paradise language. |
Crime › Re: 29-Year-Old Man Kills His Friend In Imo, Sells Organs For ₦1.5M by MightySparrow: 7:06am On Jul 13, 2023 |
danilho: Change the state to Ogun or Oyo, we all know what your comments will be. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Any Biblical Prophecy About Rise Of Islam? by MightySparrow(op): 1:51am On Jul 13, 2023 |
Lukuluku69: You can run along now. Let me do a little study from Islamic point of view. Neither any Quranic or Hadith mention Daniel. You have brought an important line of thought. Give some time. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Any Biblical Prophecy About Rise Of Islam? by MightySparrow(op): 1:26am On Jul 13, 2023 |
Lukuluku69: You can run along now. You really believe Islam will cover the whole Earth as a caliphate under Mahdi?? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Any Biblical Prophecy About Rise Of Islam? by MightySparrow(op): 9:19pm On Jul 12, 2023 |
Lukuluku69: You viewed Daniel Prophecy differently because you failed to see what the Seer himself said about his Vision. He even explained it!
It is okay if you don't want further discussions on a Thread you created! Funny isn't it? You opened it to gain more knowledge and different perspectives from what you already had but it seems my submissions is not sitting down with your established views. You are not seeing or hearing what you want to hear! No be so?
No one thought Israel would come back? Then your Bible knowledge is a little bit shallow. Even the Quran says, they will be back before they are set up for the final blow!
Which Emir block Gate say make Christ no come? Please name him for me!
As for the Various Books that form the Bible ( for they are a collection of many books, some Prophetic, some mere words and thoughts of men).
We Muslims affirm the Truths of those Words of God and that of His Prophets but those ones by Men no matter how noble can't be Words of God. The Bible has within it pages, the Words of God, that of God's Prophets and Words of Men. We take the First Two and throw away the last.
And how do you know the words of men? When they say a thing and it never come to pass. Those are words of Men like the Accounts in Revelations.
I am also seeing a FIRST here, Someone that Open a Thread and after 5 Pages, he said he doesn't want to hear any further discussion on same! No story. |
Crime › Re: 29-Year-Old Man Kills His Friend In Imo, Sells Organs For ₦1.5M by MightySparrow: 9:17pm On Jul 12, 2023*. Modified: 1:26am On Jul 13, 2023 |
This is their own, when they bring good news they are Nigerians. |
Education › Re: Udeh Chiamaka Victoria Graduates With First Class In Medicine In Russia by MightySparrow: 8:57pm On Jul 12, 2023 |
When they bring good news, they are Nigerians,; when they do otherwise,, it is their own.
Nigeria Amaka. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Any Biblical Prophecy About Rise Of Islam? by MightySparrow(op): 8:52pm On Jul 12, 2023 |
Lukuluku69: If you think Alexander the Great was the Conqueror of the Persians, then I am afraid your knowledge of World history is deficient. For out of that Defeat at the hands of Alexander, the Persians rose and still conquer many a number of Greeks City States. True, Alexander dealt them a blow but it was never a Death Blow as Muslims dealt them when they not only lost their Lands, Lost their heritage and also lost their over One Thousand Years old Zoroastrian Faith
Alexander's Triumph over the Persian is actually a separate Vision of Daniel and not related to Daniel 2/7. The Defeat of the Persian by Alexander was prophesied in Daniel Chapter 8. If you read Daniel 8, all the places mentioned are in Persia. Even the battle that eventually gave Alexander that Victory which was fought by a River was all in Persia. After this defeat, Persia still stood up to the Romans for another 500/550 years undefeated.
And if you think the Greeks emerged from Roman Empire then the Vision of Daniel is at best useless. For Daniel clearly states that the Four Wind/Beasts in his vision are Four Kingdoms.
Daniel also clearly states that the Ten Horns will be Kings in the last Beast, so, you saying they are Ten Nations is clearly off point.
As for your much awaited Anti Christ, the Vision of Daniel 2/7 never mentioned any of such.
Yes, the Antichrist will be a Jew. It is commonsensical. They failed to believe in the Original of course they will believe in the Fake.
That is why I said, the Jews still believe they will end Christianity and when they gain enough traction for that venture, you Christians will need the Muslim help.
You guys are supporting them in getting The Holy Land back, they are waxing stronger and stronger and you are hailing them. It is just a matter of time...... Greek from Roman? You are a Muslim, we Christians view the prophecies differently and explain them with historical and contemporary events. I don't want to discuss the issue of Daniel's prophecy further. Sure, Israel will rebuild their temple. It is likely one aggrieved person will blow up the Dome of the Rock. It was once thought that Israel would not come to their land. According to prophet Isaiah and the rest. One Emir even blocked a gate where Christ would take in Jerusalem when aHe returns. Hahaha. Alawada.. By the way, you Muslims believe that Christian bible is corrupted. You still believe in the prophecy of Daniel? Have christians altered the prophecies also? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Holy Aruosa Cathedral Is The Oldest Church In West Africa 1517 In Benin City by MightySparrow: 8:27pm On Jul 12, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: The first video on this page shows a worship service going on: https://www.facebook.com/people/MAKE-EDO-GREAT-AGAIN/100067001693452/?paipv=0&eav=AfZnd4TRHNBxnGj--AETz-mTUXUfDbh7bDOgUTdpgTbXJ-AyIUG63KEAcMgakzpks6s&_rdr
More info: https://ng.opera.news/ng/en/religion/cb1116a78fba7c2397e9d513ad7e1e72
The Oba of Benin is the general overseer, his deputy is the Benin crown prince while the priest is the Ohen Osa.
Preaching in the church is conveyed with the Beni language and is mostly on reminding the congregation to live a good life.
According to the Ohen Osa, they don't bring people to worship in their church. In his words; "Those who seek God come here, we don't beg people to come. If you attend and discover that your contact with God is cordial, you will remain. If you begged God for promotion and you came her and got it, you will remain."
Harrison also made it known that if you are a good person, God would accept you no matter your religion.
In his words; "We use our local language to communicate with our God. We are aware of other diverse ways of reaching God. If you are a good muslim, God will accept you, if you are a good christian, God will accept you. We don't use Bible here, we use the book of Holy Aruosa according to the saying of the ancient belief written by the wise men. The church is still in existence till today. It is an entity that will last forever, nothing can stop it." Long live Arousa Church. Long live Benin City. Long our revered King. I love the City. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Holy Aruosa Cathedral Is The Oldest Church In West Africa 1517 In Benin City by MightySparrow: 7:57pm On Jul 12, 2023 |
Stoplying: I'm not a priest. I don't know the names of the different theological writings of Christianity's different churches.
Also, try and ask questions politely next time. Thanks for the correction.. I currently live in Benin and have passed Infront of the building severally. I see the church as a special one. Although, I always passed by it during working days, I have not seen anyone entering the place.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is There Any Biblical Prophecy About Rise Of Islam? by MightySparrow(op): 7:51pm On Jul 12, 2023 |
Lukuluku69: You wants Dates? I can give you Dates. But like Daniel never alluded to any Dates but he gave a Chronological antecedents if I can use the word to when this Kingdoms will rise. He started with Nebuchadnezzar's Babylon, followed by The Mede-Persian, then the Greeks and lastly the Romans.
Read again Daniel 2 in Particular, Daniel told us what will happen to each of these Kingdoms. And I followed in that other. Babylon was ended by the Persians, The Muslims Arabs ended Persia and consumed them (Converted them) while they also sent The Greeks back to Europe initially and later upstaged them in Constantinople. As for Rome and Romans, the same fate at the hands of the Muslims. They were sent back to Europe by the Muslims and the ultimate capitulations is an event still for the future.
The funny thing is, the Jews are also eyeing the Roman Scalps. We awaits such events then, those who live to witness it will surely know that the Faith acceptable to God is that of the Muslims.
Since this Thread is about What the Bible says about Islam and Prophet Muhammad, can I show you other mentions? Backed by Facts of history you can almost touch.
I am not a shia. I am a Sunni Muslim if you must know and about Daniel, it will interest you to know that during the conquest of Persia by the Muslims, Daniel Graveyard was discovered and the Amir Al-Muimin then, Umar Ibn Khattab ordered that severally graveyard be dug in order to safeguard the Tomb of Daniel. If he did not believe him a Prophet, he would not have done that. Thanks for the explanation. In actual world history, Persia was conquered by Alexander the Great in fulfillment of Daniel's prophecy. From Greek empire emerged Roman empire.. Roman empire disintegrated into ten nations and none of them is Islamic. There is no evidence of a unified nation under a man in Daniel' s prophecy except under the Antichrist. Are you saying that the antichrist will be a Muslim caliph. That would be against the Hadith of your prophet. In one Hadith, he said he antichrist will be a Jew with a funny look. So, still help me explain with the same prophecy of Daniel. Thanks |
Christianity Etc › Re: Holy Aruosa Cathedral Is The Oldest Church In West Africa 1517 In Benin City by MightySparrow: 7:30pm On Jul 12, 2023 |
Stoplying: The Bible is not the only writing which churches rely upon. You mean Christianity has Hadith also? Mention those books. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Holy Aruosa Cathedral Is The Oldest Church In West Africa 1517 In Benin City by MightySparrow: 4:04pm On Jul 12, 2023 |
Stoplying: In which way does it look more like a shrine than a church ? I think you are talking based on your inferiority complex. The only difference between Holy Aruosa and other churches is the language: Holy Aruosa officiates in Edo language.
(You know you don't need to copy the whites to be a Christian, right ?) Do you know that Africans were Christians before Europeans ? Indeed, Ethiopia became Christian before Europeans did. We are talking about Bible and other writs. Whether black or white, bible unifies all. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Holy Aruosa Cathedral Is The Oldest Church In West Africa 1517 In Benin City by MightySparrow: 3:10pm On Jul 12, 2023 |
Stoplying: The Bible is common to all churches, however each ancient churches have additional litterature. Just like the Anglicans and the protestants and the orthodox and the Catholics. Holy Aruosa has its own additional literature as an independent and ancient church. I know the church you are talking about, it looks more like a shrine than a church. Do you think they preach from the Bible or from this other writs? |
Crime › Re: Nigerian Army Arrests Fake Lance Corporal Inside A Bank by MightySparrow: 12:13pm On Jul 12, 2023 |
Anambra and fakies.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Holy Aruosa Cathedral Is The Oldest Church In West Africa 1517 In Benin City by MightySparrow: 12:09pm On Jul 12, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: Holy Aruosa Cathedral (founded in 1517) is a church located at Akpakpava in Benin City, Edo, Nigeria. It was founded by Oba Esigie (son of Queen Idia) and Portuguese missionaries. It is commonly called the church of the Oba of Benin and the elderly Binis (people of Benin). It is one of the oldest churches in Nigeria, which can be traced back to the coming of Portuguese. Just as every Abrahamic religion has a sacred book, Holy Arousa Catheral's holy book is known as the Book of Holy Aruosa which was written by the "wise men with dictate, teachings, and sayings of the ancient Benin kingdom." History
About six centuries and fifty years old, Aruosa predates early Portuguese missionary contact with the Benin kingdom, contrary to popular belief that it is a relic of missionary presence in the area. Bini believe in direct worship of the Supreme Being, Osanobua, the Bini world view permeates Aruosa's doctrine, rituals and usage.
In 1517, Holy Aruosa Cathedral, was established during the reign of Oba Esigie. Holy Aruosa serves as an historical place for both Nigerians and foreign tourists from America and Europe.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Aruosa_Cathedral Does that mean they have a different scriptures from the Bible? |
Politics › Re: Germany And Nigeria Population In 1980 Compared To Now by MightySparrow: 12:01pm On Jul 12, 2023 |
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Education › Re: Russia University Hoisted Nigerian Flag To Honour Faith Ebunoluwa Ojedokun by MightySparrow: 11:58am On Jul 12, 2023 |
When Yoruba roars like Amotekun in the zoo, the fake AGU hides. |
Education › Re: Russia University Hoisted Nigerian Flag To Honour Faith Ebunoluwa Ojedokun by MightySparrow: 11:56am On Jul 12, 2023*. Modified: 8:57am On Jul 13, 2023 |
HussenAdul: U didn't mention Drug & money rituals We all know where drugs belong. Watch out for news before sundown from India Malaysia, Pakistan, Indonesia, Singapore.,..... One Chinedu Kalu, Amaka....will be there  |
Politics › Re: Election: ‘Even If Peter Obi Concedes Defeat, We’ll Not Accept’ – Charly Boy by MightySparrow: 11:47am On Jul 12, 2023 |
I have always known Charlie as a boy since my primary school days. Now I am an adult, he hasn't grown up to be a man. He still plays with his toys. |
Career › Re: MURIC Director, Prof. Akintola Retires From LASU by MightySparrow: 11:31am On Jul 12, 2023 |
For his septic tank mouth utterances, he should retire from MURIC as well. |
Politics › Re: Lagos Commences Issuance Of Official Statements In Yoruba, Egun & English by MightySparrow: 11:26am On Jul 12, 2023 |
OldBeer: The government of Lagos state has begun the issuance of vital information to its populace in Egun, Yoruba and English. Critics say this new development may not be unconnected with the 2023 elections that sprung up surprises in the state. It is yet to be seen if this will become the modus operandi of the state going forward. Igbo language no dey dia? Igbos are 60% population of Lagos nah. |