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MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is what i want you to correct!

It should be How Politicians defamed Islam
Remember it's the events in the dark ages that makes atheists and agnostics labeled Religion evil so do you agree that Religion is evil or it's the POLITICIANS hiding under religion that's evil?
Please correct yourself because i have brothers, sisters, uncles, aunties, friends and colleagues who are Muslims but aren't terrorists. So just as the Politicians in the dark ages should be blamed for the death of millions back then and not the religion, it's the politicians using Islam to perpetrate evil that's the problem not Islam!

. well, the killers are still Muslims. The international network of terrorists are all Muslims, no Buddhists, Hinduists, Christian body or JWs has such organisations now. Politics is a global thing and does not defame Hinduism or Buddhism or Confucianism etc.
You were once a Muslim, right, from my findings, the core Message of Islam is size power and commerce, uproot all other religions. This was done in Turkey, Algeria, Tunisia, almost succeeded in Poland, Spain, France.
Where conquered, the religious shrines are never allowed to be rebuilt, not even churches.



Before the advent of colonization of Nigeria, Uthman Dan Fodio agenda was to dip the Quran into Atlantic. His campaign in the North was so fierce that he overran northern Muslim communities and planted caliphs.

One wonders whether Mohammad himself was a prophet or a politico - religious leader. Politicians make use of provisions of Islam to achieve their goals. The ousting if Sha of Iran by Ayatollah Khomeini, Saddam Hussein, Uthman Dan Fodio and present day Boko Haram, Fulani Herders.

Islam is a bad religion possibly from the political mind also of Mohammad not Allah.

Jackson105:
Man U is winning the champion league and Premier league this season.



GGMU

Future Impossible Tense

MaxInDHouse:
You're always eager to talk about the history of Jehovah's Witnesses, why not ask for the history of your Churches?

The topic is Why You Hate Islam my original response: The topic should have been: How Muslims make People to Hate Islam.

JWs always like to dig ugly history of individuals and churches, wanting to make us or ignorant people believe that that they are not made of f human that are prone to errors.

Yet, there are so many errors in beliefs some are quietly abandoned, modified, or proudly retained..


Catholic church among others JWs love to discredit, came out to make Kalashnikov apologize for making AK-47. The truth is this: in the face of an aggressor, who killed 6m Jews and wanted to rule the world at all cost. If he was stopped by whatever means. Would you blame him for making a gun or the America who retaliated with the Little Boy or Fat Man the unwarranted aggression of Japan?


Such are the acidic criticism of theJWs of others. I think the work of every Christian is to preach the gospel of Jesus alone.




The other day day I was watching one of your GB members trying to make corrections about The New Light, how certain interpretations were taking out of context. So just as Muslims like the OP would defend ugly killings by their members (they claim errant Muslims);do that. Yet no Islamic nations decry the injustices going on in Afghanistan nor wanting to take Afghans as refugees.

JWs also have pasts, not all of us can be deceived because the prints have records. Some us are not lazy to know the history of the church and JW.

Bàbá go slow II

MaxInDHouse:
The Churches of Christendom started all this so the involvement of religion in politics never started from Islam.
That's why i keep telling you that only JWs are the true Christians (those who are no part of Satan's Political system) John 15:19; 18:36

You joined JWs from Islam that preaches condemnation. What do you know about other churches?
My friend stay in your delusion.

Cute

mhmsadyq:
It’s been misrepresented for so long that I’ve got used to it, I don’t even blink an eyelid anymore.’

But their fruits you shall know them.

Mention a religion also misinterpretated.

Let Prof. Soludo and others go back to their Aba and Alaba roots.
Good news from the North. If they had been doing this, we would not have have Bandits and Boko Haram as major players in the Northern life.
SW, continue to show them that brain is better than braun.

DoctorDree:
Part-time Afghanistan in Nigeria

Na small, small pig mouth dey take enter garden.


Nigeria is losing her freedom.

Jah, Jah, Jah, jerk, jerk, jerk, Ah! Ah!!,Ah!!!

__stan country again?
I fear o.

Unknown bandits would soon kidnapp governors.

One chance vehicle. APC

Club of the year: Chelsea
Coach of the year: Thomas Tuchel
Club owner of the year: Roman Abrahamovic.
Fans of the year: Chelsea fans.


Club of next year: Chelsea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If it is paining you port to Chelsea.
The Club with a large family.

MaxInDHouse:
so that you may not become sluggish, but be imitators of those who through faith and patience inherit the promises!

They had faith and they were patient, meaning they kept looking forward to the time the Messiah (Christ) will come to TEACH them what they must do to be saved!

A politician looked forward to asking the Messiah (Christ) what he must do to be saved {Luke 18:18} Jesus asked him to throw away all his status and prominence then start following Jesus {Luke 18:22} the man turned it down and lost everlasting life! Luke 18:24

The same would have happened to any of those people you're thinking of if they should stick to their political career instead of humbly accepting to become a nobody and follow Jesus' nonpolitical program!

Follow human Jesus, contribute your qouta to the country you are born. No matter how badly you think it is fearing, no matter how much prophecies are being fulfilled, you are still a part of the system.


Recently, CRS was going to be replaced with Arabic studies in JSs final exams. It caused an uproar in the South. The evil scheme was suspended.
Don't decive yourself, your children, theirs may find it difficult to practice your type of Christianity in few years from now. Don't think you have control over their faith and what their decisions will be in the face of fiery persecution.
I personally believe in participation of whoever can, as Christians to represent the global interests of Christian faith in the government. As for you, who have nothing to do with governments, no problems.
I am not a politician, I don't have them as friends. I don't hate them I don't like them either. Since somebody mist be there and I can't be, let who thinks he has a flair for it be there.
Cheers!

MaxInDHouse:
While he was still speaking, look! a bright cloud overshadowed them, and look! a voice out of the cloud said: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved. Listen to him.” Matthew 17:5

God's word said even among angels God never introduced any to serve as a role model for us to follow {Hebrews 1:5, 13} not to talk of humans who are imperfect!

Heb.6:12

dirtydiva:
Manchester City sorry ooo

No man in the city
Chelsea won all: D Bryune, Kante, Joginhno are all Chelsea stars. Chelsea owns England, rules Europe.

MaxInDHouse:
JWs participated in census, pay taxes and remain submissive to the authorities.
What we will not do is participate in the political affairs of the world just as Jesus did! John 6:15
Jesus taught us to put our faith in the coming Kingdom of God! Matthew 6:9-10

All those people participated before the coming of Christ who is the model God gave us, so we imitate Jesus that's why we are his Witnesses! Act 1:8

Acts 1:8 meaning the Spirit on JWs is different from the Holy Spirit on those on those who came before Jesus.

Okay o.

MaxInDHouse:
Naaaaaaaaaaaaa you missed the mark again!
All religions whose members have nothing to do with politics are guiltless of the problem we are talking about now!
As long as you can be compelled to VOTE in or out a leader then you're part of the problem because after the politician noticed that you have the say over a large crowd but you're not ready to work for them, my friend you're a dead meat!
For your information that's why the politicians in Jesus' days agreed that Jesus must be killed, because he is fast gaining popularity throughout the nation but he's not ready to join Politics {John 6:15} imagine he even said his followers are no part of the political system of the world. John 15:19; 17:14; 18:36
So of what use was Jesus to the political ambitions of the Jews? John 11:50

Jesus Himself participated in the government of His time. He participated in census, paid tax. He kept all the laws of Roman empire. Before Pilate, He was guiltless. This the king Himself.
That you have an earthly government whatever is applicable in your domain is laughable.

Daniel, Joseph who were principal officers in the government of their times are below the standards of JWs.

MaxInDHouse:
The topic of discussion:
Is a question.

"Why you hate Islam (a religious group)?"

Answer: Politicians hijacked religion to promote their devilish career and Islam has become an instrument in the hands of politicians. So all religions involved in Politics are equally guilty of whatever anyone accuses Islam!

All religions that officially adopts politics are guilty: Catholic, Anglican, winners, Islam, Hinduism Methodist etc.
All religions that do not officially recognised or participate in politics is correct: JW, Ogun, IFA, Delhi, Amadiora, Sango, Okija .....

MaxInDHouse:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES already have our own system of government:

"THEOCRACY"
So that's what makes us no part of the world in DEMOCRACY! John 15:19, 17:14
Politics is the curse of killings here and there not Islam (Religion) politicians are only using religion to gather supporters.
You said you have people (supposed believers) in the other sect that are not in tune with the GO politically. So when trouble starts between members of one party against the other what do you think will happen to the faith you share with them?
Well you've said it all i have dealt with politicians as an ex-agent so what i know you don't know, what you just feel is that people should have human governments who will set the standard for you the same way Israelites asked for a King to rule over them! 1Samuel 8:1-22
Well we are talking about talking about the cause of hatred that's why i'm digging it from the taproots instead of looking at matters from a myopic point of view.
For your information, i have seen where brothers (sons of the same mother) were after one another's life because of Politics so when your so called people in the other party come after you due to political rivalry you will remember me. Then you will know that it's not only Islam that's in support of KILLING when Politics is involved!

Jehovahwitnessocracy
JWs members no longer pay taxes to human government. If charged to Nigeria court or else where's, they would disregard the court.
Delusion Mhen!

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is what i will never agree with anyone!

If you say "Islam is a bad religion" then all other religions involved in Politics are equally bad religions too!

Note that Islam is not the problem but politicians seeking all means to seize power!
The Catholics started it and Rome ruled longer than all other nations due to Catholicism, that's what the Taliban wants to achieve with Islam. They're using Islam to recruit more hands to support them in dominating the earth. So all religions in support of Politics are equally evil because the politicians are using a religion that's fast growing to gain support and since all others are divided so to speak they're all weak that's why the politicians aren't using them.
Take for example if you go to the Churches you will see that they're not united over who should rule over them. The last time in Nigeria Daddy GO supported one side while your Papa supported the opposite side but what about Islam they're all unitedly supporting a Muslim President!
So any smart politician will prefer to have Muslims as his supporting force than Churchgoers who are always divided. The same goes to all other minor religious sect!

Soon ATHEISM will sweep them all away and you will see politicians seeking the support of atheists no more Muslims or Churchgoers.

So if any religion is in support of politics it's equally evil. During the time of ancestors the Ifá Priests mustn't meddle in the political affairs of the community, his own duty is to offer suggestions on how to solve problems resulting from curses and abominable acts by consulting the gods. But today your Pastors and Imams are fully involved in the political affairs of the country. Therefore they're all guilty of the same offence of which you're accusing Islam!

Good points. The G.Os involving politics directly or not is personal. All the churches with GOs have members of all parties in their favoured locations. Osinbajo is a Redeemer, APC. I have people in RCCG that are not members of APC. So, that is not what we are saying. I don't agree with you either that there should not be organised government: family, schools, churches, mosques, banks, including JWs has a form of government.GB. All over the world, people develop how they are ruled. Monarchs, emperors, Emirs, Shad, etc. The latest evolution form of government is democracy, aiming at reducing Human tyranny.
I don't believe as JWs wants us to believe that Communities should be without leaders. That is hypocrisy though.

No where Christianity is practised today adopts theocracy.Not even Israel, the root of Abrahamic faith.

I don't believe God also is interested in chaos. We are even commanded to pray for leaders of our communities. I Ti. 2: 1 -2.
You were a former military officer who must surely have traveled across the nation. I my own experience, the level of crave for power among Muslims is something else. The level of prejudices while and unfair treatment of poeple of other religions is demonic. This encouraged me to read the Quran study why 15% Muslims in Chad rose up one day to impose Islam and it's values. The nation was almost turned apart.

Sir, you may want to be modest, Islam is evil. You want to close your eyes to all events happening in Nigeria and all the world by the hands of Muslims.

MaxInDHouse:
The concluding statement is somehow dicey but if that's how you feel like seeing the matter it's OK. But that's not the truth!

The world is going to an end, Satan and his demons are everywhere trying to make all humans destroy one another, they have lost in the battle to keep everyone in the dark, so as the light of God's word is getting brighter and Jesus' disciples are shining brightly throughout the earth Satan is becoming sadder everyday.

So they want to fight against God but the only way they can do such is by making God's word invalid. God's word said some humans will survive Satan's final attack on humanity {Revelations 7:14} but Satan and his demons are spitefully anticipating total annihilation!

Politics has been the root cause of the problem humans have right after the incident in the garden of Eden. God promised that no matter how Satan try He (God) will always have some people who will be loyal to God {Job 1:8} God arranged for a nation through Abraham's lineage but Satan succeeded in making that nation a mess {Matthew 23:37-38} so after Jesus' ultimate sacrifice God released His Holy Spirit and a GROUP of people who will later become millions across the globe practicing pure worship under God's sovereignty sufficed, instantly Satan and his demons went into action to annihilate all the pioneers of this GROUP {Revelations 12:17} after which Satan quickly initiated a counterfeit GROUP to deceive the world and will serve Satan's purpose, that religion is globally known today as the "Roman Catholic Church" unlike Jesus' true disciples who goes about peacefully preaching and teaching people from house to house and door to door the Catholics were forcing their religion on people everywhere they go. This went on until the birth of Muhammad in Mecca. Muhammad wanted to make himself a prophet just to enjoy himself but attacks kept coming from all sides including the Roman Catholic Church who taught Muhammad the little he knew about God. That was how both religions began struggling for the world's domination under Satan's blindfold (Politics)
Today the Catholic Church and her children Protestants have successfully held the power for centuries {Revelations 17:5} but the Arabs whose ancestors produced the first four world powers wanted the power back. That's why they are fighting Catholic and her Protestant children to recover what they thought rightfully belongs to them.
That's what is happening in the world today.
However Satan and his demons are the unseen forces behind all these {Ephesians 6:12} that's why Jesus commaded us never to lead by force or use of weapons! Matthew 26:52
Throughout the earth today the one and only GROUP who are aware of all these sacred secrets is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization that's why Satan and his human agents keep criticizing us {2Corinthians 4:4} because we are not deceived by Satan's cobwebs! 2Corinthians 2:11
So as i said earlier people will continue to kill people and Satan will give you a thousand and one reason why you must pick up weapons to kill your fellowman, only Jehovah's Witnesses have been trained never to lift up weapons against anyone no matter what happens! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

May you have PEACE!

Good response. We all know that the world is going to an end. How soon? We don't know for certain. Out of Catholic are all other denominations. How many are now imposing religion on people? When the Bible was made available flollowing the first print by William Tyndale, and Martin Luther began to campaign against errors of Catholic Church, the truth was no longer hidden, folks can read the Bible on their own. No church today is forcing anybody. Politics, yes there is no way we can escape that. There must be a way of rulership among humans. Politicians use all means including religion, money, propaganda, violence to achieve their selfish ends. We are in the system all over the world. Taliban itself is using the provisions of Islam to do just that.
I have never been an adherent of Islam, I have read a bit of it the Quran and some hadiths. As Christianity is becoming increasingly affecting nations for peace it is not the same for Islam. Millions are practicing Hinduism ,Buddhism etc. You will never hear anything violence or ruling by force as their tenet of faith.

So, I don't still believe that Islam is ordained for global,end - time violence dispenser. It is a bad religion.

haekymbahdx:
prove it to the op that Jesus was Almighty God and not prophet/messenger of God as muhammad claimed stop all this sentimental act and expect rebuttal too and defend your claim...

How does that give Muslims authority to killings?

The topic would rather be: How Muslims Makes People to Hate Islam.

Unlike the position of MaxInDHouse, though we are living in the time of end - time prophecies. There are so many religions like Hinduism, Buddhism, Baha'i, Confucianism etc that do not give people that don't believe their doctrines headache.

I don't believe that Muslims are giving the sole responsibility of religious body to dispense end - time violence and killings.

Islam is simply a bad religion.

Muhammad Is a messenger only to the Arabs. He is the only prophet outside Jewish race. He brought confusion rather than Message.




Taliban, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram are clear messages of Allah and Muhammad.

Nonsense as usual.

princepee:
For real
Bandits have the mind to go NDA
THEN this shyt is getting real.
If this news is true and the army don't crush this bandits then one day the president will be kidnapped.
It's a matter of time.
GENERAL ABACHA ONCE SAID THAT ANY INSURGENT THAT LAST MORE THAN 24HOURS THE GOVERNMENT KNOWS ABOUT IT

The military is fast losing respect and fear reposited in it. The bandits are becoming more daring by the day. Success of this kind of group could trigger similar group s in other parts of the country. This is the beginning of the end.

My blodas Chukwumerije is in Kabul doing his drug business jejely.

This twin brother of FFK self. In my alumni platform, we are a body of professional engineers of varying degrees of successes, we rise up to fix our problems. Fix our children in similar fields. Though, I am not practicing for some reasons, yet an active member. I was impressed to discover how the widow of one of us who died recently was helped so the children of our late colleague would not suffer. In fact, the help is more than that from religious organizations. And, we of various religious biases.

Reno Omokiri has gone from a pastor he claimed to be to evil philosopher.

Emusan:
The same ignorance your fraud master displayed in their evil publication "Should you believe in Trinity?" is the same you're repeating after many centuries, when you supposed to be more enlighten than them since your light is getting brighter

Proudly a trinitarian.

FarahAideed:
OBJ sha ...he know how to play the game of optics

He is real Yoruba man to the core. Itshekiri, themselves, being a part of, or took its source from Yoruba land, has similar culture, worship etc. Obasanjo could not have done less.

A great lesson to new age Yorubas who are copying some chestbeaters .

Fahdiga:
All thanks to Islam. Pls who can lecture me on any usefulness of this religion

God's sword to punish erring world.