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Henry120: The sudanese MIG-29 would shoot down each and every one of your gripen jets, that's how good they are. End of story.

Let's us not talk about fantasies. And talk about real facts. Which war plane advanced and I'm not talking about BVR missiles,cause South Africa can buy a lot of them. At the prospect of war.

Henry120: Your onyx helicopter is developed from the super-puma which nigeria operates.

So that makes it crap?........If so your F7 jets is totally crap cause it is an upgraded version of MIG-21.

Henry120: Top Guns’ the following NINE Airforces with a potent combat capability in africa. All rated by airforces monthly magazine.

They are: NORTH AFRICA (i) Algeria – SU -30MKA Flanker C (ii) Eygpt – Lockheed F-16Block 52/Mirage 2000 (iii) Morroco- Lockheed F16 Block 52 .

EAST AFRICA (iv) Ethopia – SU-27 Flanker B (v) Eritrea – SU-27 Flanker B (vi) Sudan- Mig 29 Fulcrum C (vii) Uganda- SU-30 MK2

SOUTHERN AFRICA: (viiI) Angola- SU-27 Flander B and (viii) South Africa – Saab Grippen JAS 39 C/D.

The Nigerian Airforce with no 4th Generation Frontline Fighter Aircraft is of course not mentioned.

Do you read that "African pilot" magazine?...............And do you have a link for this site or magazine sounds interesting.

Henry120: The F-7's are not good enough. That's not new. Nigeria requires an superiority fighter.



The gripen is not the most advanced jet in africa. Stop kidding yourself. It is the best light attack jet in africa, not the best fighter jet in africa or SSA.


The rooivalk is a piece of crap, same as your half french oryx helicopter.

Don't be delusional sudan has the most advanced MIG-29 in service. Call it old at your own peril.

Is the Sudanse MIG-29 modified to operate in Africa?. The Rooivalk was developed from the puma utility chopper which Nigeria still uses. What is crap about the Puma utility helicopter?......That utility chopper is made up of the most advanced South African avionics. THE MOST ADVANCED IN AFRICA........But let's just wait and see how it performs in the DRC.

Henry120: According to AIRFORCES MONTHLY October 2013 edition, the Algerian Airforce with it’s 28 Su-30MKA Flanker C aircraft (with another 16 currently on order) has the most potent fighter aircraft in Africa. These fighters are equipped with BVR capable missiles and ‘passive electronically scanned array (PESA) radars- ditto the Ugandan Airforce SU-30MK2s.

No fighter in service with an African Airforce is equipped with the ‘Active electronically scanned-array (AESA) radar.

The Ethopian Airforce is the only airforce in Africa which has the ability to carry out local -in depth overhauls on the SU-27. Only Russia, Ukraine and China previously had this capability.

The SAAF Grippen JAS-39C/D is a good light fighter though it’s lack of BVR capability makes it vulnerable. However few African Airforces have fighters with a high level of BVR capability and none bordering South Africa.

Morroco’s 24 F-16 Block 52s are about the best armed fighters in Africa equipped with AIM-9x and AIM-120 missiles to counter the Algerian Airforce’s SU-30MKA Flanker Cs.

The Sudanese Airforce has the most advanced Mig 29 variant (Fulcrum C) in Africa and the first in Africa with BVRAAM (Beyond Visual Range Air-to-Air missile capability), the second being Algeria (Su-30MKA0 and the third being Uganda (.SU-30MK2).

Eygpt has 8 Block 52 ‘C’ models and 4 Block 52 ‘D’ models from the 20 on order. The earlier models have limited BVR capabilities.

People tend to focus on fighter jets only when we talk about air forces. Forgetting attack helicopters,utility helicopters,EW aircraft............And Oh the Gripen take missions from Reconnaissance,air to air,air to ground and sharing time intelligence.

Henry120: Ok. What about you, What group do you belong to?

Visit South Africa I'll host you,we will talk that kind of stuff....But now I'd like us to talk about military things. Things like "Will SAAF's Rooivalk prove to be better than the Apache like military minds have been saying" since it is about to be deployed to the DRC.

Henry120: The F-7 is an interceptor. It's not a ground attack fighter. That's not to say it cannot carry out ground missions.

The SAAF is not the most advanced airforce in sub-saharan africa. I'd classify sudan and ethiopia above SAAF.

That's the thing Nigeria doesn't have that air superiority fighter to counter advanced jets like the SU-30...........The Gripen is the most advanced jet in sub-saharan Africa.......Rooivalk is the most sophisticated attack helicopter sub-saharan Africa.....Oryx helicopter is best helicopter fitted to operate in high temperatures of sub-saharan Africa..............Both Sudan and Ethiopia have old upgraded soviet era jets and helicopters.

agaugust: nigeria has stopped buying british weapons, those english mofos messed up our Jaguar jets with arms embargo during the military era.

china is now our main source of weapons, and we buy only what we can maintain at home for combat readiness all the time.

F-7 jet is maintained 100% locally in nigeria.

a living dog is better than a dead lion.

That's stupi'd. Everybody knows the west designs or produce weapons that can defeat any of its eastern counterparts. Nigeria needs to replace that F7 by a real multi-role fighter. Most of the weapons Nigeria buys are not fitted for the African battlefield,your armed forces don't bother to modify them. They're designed for armies that have huge supply capabilities from trucks,transport aircraft(planes) and utility helicopters.

agaugust: nigeria can upgrade by changing its F-7 jet radar again to this new 90km, it is presently classified but experts say it is about 30km radar our F-7 has now and it can carry laser guided bombs for air to ground attack.

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I bet that radar is not as advanced as the one fitted on the Cheeter C. The F7 can't swing between air to ground and air to air mission. SAAF is the most advanced air force in sub-saharan Africa. itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-32385/

Henry120: So which group do coloured people belong to? I'd also like to know, Mike..ZA which group do you belong to?



Nairaland is not nigeria, it doesn't reflect the views of the larger population of nigerians. One other thing to note is, nigerian nairaland members represent only 5 states of the federation plus the capital. 90% of members of nairaland come from these states/ area's

Lagos state
Port-harcourt (rivers state)
Ogun state
Abuja
Edo state
Nigerian diaspora

Of 36 states and the capital 37, that doesn't represent the views of the country. Nigerians are also not all igbos, there are over 500 different ethnic groups in nigeria.

They can belong to any mostly are English,Xhosa and Afrikaans. Though some are Khoisan.

agaugust: my bros, I will post my own answer to your good questions this weekend, I guess other guys too will give answers. cheers !

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zaandrew: Things are getting risky in mozambique. Don't see a full blown civil war starting( renamo is to small and has no out side suport) but iy is a risk. If a war does break out zimbawe would likly step in first folowed by SA then SADC.

Renamo is estimated to be around 1000 light armed rebels. They're likely to continue targeting things like Railways,police stations and civilians.

rka1: The F4 that was shot down by Syria was on a training flight that allegedly strayed into Syrian airspace. The Germans were using F4s as their front line fighters until this year. Haven't you seen reports of the difficulty modern NATO fighters have had engaging Romanian MIG 21 Lancers within visual range due to their speed and evasive manoeuvres? Continue to underestimate. It is good for us.

South Africa downed a couple of MiG 21 in Angola. And Turkey F4 was on a recce mission,not training like Turkey puts it.

NaijaPikinGidi: Whenever you become an adult pray little children don't point at you calling you a Boy! What are you currently saying that has not been said by fools before you ... CrazePig, AwoduaGyan, and your predesessors on this thread? So interesting that every Nigerian must be Igbo these days? Same way all South Africans are Xhosa?

South Africans are Pedi,Sotho,Tswana,Xhosa,English,Zulu,Afrikaans,Venda,Tsonga,Swati,Ndebele,Indian and other small Asian groups....I'll call you an "Igbo boy" if you continue to act like an I'diot.

rka1: Can you explain why Greece, Turkey and until a few weeks ago Germany use the Phantom F-4 which is an older frame than the F7? It is because of the EW and other sensor suites.

The F7's suite and defensive aids are quite capable now that the other issues have been ironed out. You are just so naïve to think that a few alleged advanced weapons will defeat anybody. You watch too many Hollywood movies. People do die for real you know when shot.

When to shot?..... The South African air force's Cheeter C once held an exercise with the Russian SU 27. Here's a quote of what one Cheeter C pilot said "There I was on the tail of the Sukhoi and he started to turn so I tried to follow. By the time I had done 360 degrees he had gone 720 and was on my tail" ....The Cheeter C's airframe could only handle 7G while the Sukhoi could handle up to 9G. Your F7 structure's outclassed,your avionics are outclassed. And here's my question do you think those F4 jets could take on modern jets like the Rafael,besides the F4 were primary used for Recce missions remember the one(From the Turkish air force) Syria shoot down,they weren't used as frontline fighters.........The F7 can be left zapping through the sky by modern fighters.

chris365: guys, i saw this and couldn't help to wonder what kind of training KDF special forces get

how can a team of elite troops that are supposed to put down a threat abandon their mission and start looting shame on KDF

no wonder the operation lasted for 4 days.. 3 days for looting and 1 day for shooting at nothing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKvePDJbEcs

They were shopping but couldn't find cashiers. So they decided oh well.........On a serious note: I think KDF rushed regular troops into the mall not SF who trained to handle rescue operations. The KDF SF are armed with some rifle not the FN..........Did you watch the Al jazeera report about tunnels on the mall which could have been used to escape? This raises suspicion cause initially the Kenyan government estimated the terrorists to number around 15. Some rescued civilians claimed "there was this women".

chris365: the guy is just so daft. with a brain like this, no wonder little inexperienced cuba fought them to a stalemate on their own turf.

This demonstrates your lack of knowledge about the Boarder war. "Home turf"? Do you know where Angola,Zambia and Zimbabwe are on the map?.......Wanna talk about experience?.....Cuba had Soviet advisors to make up for their lack of experience.

NaijaPikinGidi: Dem take Zulu sangoma juju swear for this boy? Abi na inside dustbin e feed from everyday?

e dfgrffdhdjhfdjk dfhgdf whatever you're saying Igbo boy. Deliver facts and stop talking about recycle bins and Africa's well known tribe. This is your tactic when you can't deliver facts,you resort to "ebi na sha recycle bin" kind of rubbish.....The Zulus went to combat more than your modern Nigerian army.

NaijaPikinGidi: And this brat thinks Nigerian pilots are not able to read tactical air combat situations or set traps too?

That's because your war planes will be detected before they even know or detect the presence of Gripens. Giving less time to read tactical air combat situation or set traps. Besides the F7 can't swing from air to ground mission to air to air combat.

NaijaPikinGidi: What is this one saying again? When did you become a human being? I thought South Africans were cyborgs? By all your blabbing here you have shown how perpetually useless you naturally are! Ka Chineke mezie okwu! Dan banza!

You can call chineke(God) Igbo boy. And you wanna start with the racism "thing" again?..........Fact is your army is failing to curb this massacres by boko haram. You should ask for some training from Algeria,which has been effective in fighting this terror groups. Even showing it won't negotiate with terrorists on some occasions. Almost forgot is the movie of Cyborg still premiering in Nigeria? This is sad. You're stack in the 90s you guys,oh so is that why you think your country's civil war is a modern conflict?

souldust: @all i was watching Startacus and i saw where a Roman soldier was r..a..pe..d by another soldier superior to him in rank. My question is, dont you think that this will have an adverse effect on the morale of the soldiers if this still happens in 21st century military? Do the military punish culprits? How are they punished?

Yes culprits are punished. Most abuses take place in training collages and this cases are rare or not reported. Which won't affect the morale of troops.

rka1: Obsolete in your head. As I have always said, the equipment is only as good as the user. When were any of SANDF's shiny new weapons used in a modern war scenario?

You can only talk the talk. NA walks the walk all the time.

And oh!!! You guys always claim "NA walks the walk",but fail to provide me with real prove where NA was heavily engaged with a enemy that has modern(system that are still used today) heavy systems like Main battle tanks,fighter jets,SAMs,shoulder fired SAMs,APCs,armoued fighting vehicles,artillery,Multiple rocket launchers,constant fresh supplies of equipment,helicopters and AA guns. Not some hungry rebels resorting to cannibalism to keep alive. I'd be happy and show respect to your military,without that prove Nigeria will always be ranked below Algeria,Ethiopia and the continent advanced country SOUTH AFRICA!!!

rka1: Obsolete in your head. As I have always said, the equipment is only as good as the user. When were any of SANDF's shiny new weapons used in a modern war scenario?

You can only talk the talk. NA walks the walk all the time.

Denel's 81mm mortar and NTW-20 sniper rifle are in the DRC. Just a month ago they were put to test and nicely neutralised M23 rebels. Now the highly sophisticated Rooivalk attack chooper is headed there too. Hornets and Geckos were also used in CAR including the Griffins during the evacuation. Don't lie to your self with that "good as the user rubbish",ask China how technology can easily change the battlefield in favour of the person with modern equipment. That country rushed its well trained and masters of disguise troops into the DPRK,only to find that most were killed cause they still used World war 2 weapons. While the USA G.Is packed spanking new systems.

Henry120: Brilliant reply. I'd also like to add that, the nigerian F-7ni's are similar to the pakistani up-graded F-7PG. In as much as we do not like the F-7's, those jets are not in any way scraps oh. They good interceptors.



Another thing is, in terms of the overall size of the airforce, the nigerian airforce is larger than that of south africa. We have more air-crafts them.


Same in artillery and MBT's. We operate up-graded T-72', VICkers tanks, scorpion light tanks and T-55's. In overall size again, the south africans are under us.

I should changed my name to Mike..Facts......What South Africa lacks in numbers,we make up in precision. Unless Nigeria can get real fighter jets your artillery,Main battle tanks and APCs will always be prey for the advanced South African air force. South Africa will control the skies meaning drones like the Vulture will be feeding SANDF artillery units with movement of your ground forces. Upgrading the F7 four billion times won't change a thing,cause its structure(TAIL) is not suitable for the 21st century dogfights. Here's a silly analogy for you: Egypt still has the upgraded T-35 MBT in service,can this tank take on the Israeli Merkava in a battle? NO. right? No matter what you can put inside it,its structure is obsolete. Just like SAAF's cheeter jets they have the most advanced avionics(still classified today.

drag_on: i told you both forces (Nigeria and South Africa) don't use BVR, which is the ultimate sensor,and significant advantage of any 4th Gen fighter in a air to air confrontation.What is the significance of your long range radar if you have to enter the range of your opponents tracking radar to fire? When you both see each other it's up to the pilots. Do you not know the role tactics play in a fight? Weapons without tactics is Hollywood.

What's the advantage of long range radar?. You can easily set a trap for your opponent like the Israel tactics of flying two fighters low,and the other two at normal heights in that case the enemy will be fooled thinking his got two opponents. Only to run into a trap,and be shot from the sky. Even if you get at your opponent's tracking radar it will again,depend on which aircraft is more manoeuvrable,able to swing between roles(missions),EW kits,sensors for incoming missiles,flare dispensers and communication systems. Lastly the Griffin will always out manoeuvre the F7 with its "tail".

drag_on: COMPARISM OF THE Saab JAS 39 Gripen and J7(as interceptors)


GRIPEN
General characteristics
Crew: 1 (2 for JAS 39D)
Payload: 5,300 kg (11,700 lb)
Length: 14.1 m (46 ft 3 in); two-seater: 14.8 m (48 ft 5 in)
Wingspan: 8.4 m (27 ft 7 in)
Height: 4.5 m (14 ft 9 in)
Wing area: 30.0 m² (323 ft²)
Empty weight: 6,800 kg[229] (12,600 lb)
Loaded weight: 8,500 kg (18,700 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 14,000 kg (31,000 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × Volvo Aero RM12 afterburning turbofan
Dry thrust: 54 kN (12,100 lbf)
Thrust with afterburner: 80.5 kN (18,100 lbf)
Performance
Maximum speed: Mach 2 (2,204 km/h, 1,372 mph) at high altitude
Combat radius: 800 km (500 mi, 432 nmi)
Ferry range: 3,200 km(2,000 mi)with drop tanks
Service ceiling: 15,240 m (50,000 ft)
Armament
Guns: 1 × 27 mm Mauser BK-27 Revolver cannon with 120 rounds (only available on single-seat A/C model)
Hardpoints: 8 (three on each wing and two under fuselage) and provisions to carry combinations of:
Rockets: 4× rocket pods 13.5 cm rockets
Missiles:
6× Rb.74 (AIM-9) or Rb 98 (IRIS-T)
4× Rb.99 (AIM-120) or MICA
4× Rb.71 (Skyflash) or Meteor


J-7
General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 14.885 m (Overall) (48 ft 10 in)
Wingspan: 8.32 m (27 ft 3½ in)
Height: 4.11 m (13 ft 5½ in)
Wing area: 24.88 m² (267.8 ft²)
Empty weight: 5,292 kg (11,667 lb)
Loaded weight: 7,540 kg (16,620 lb) (two PL-2 or PL-7 air-to-air missiles)
Max. takeoff weight: 9,100 kg (20,062 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × Liyang Wopen-13F afterburning turbojet
Dry thrust: 44.1 kN (9,921 lbf)
Thrust with afterburner: 64.7 kN (14,550 lbf)
Performance
Maximum speed: Mach 2.0 (2,200 km/h (1,189 knots, 1,375 mph)) IAS
Stall speed: 210 km/h (114 knots, 131 mph) IAS
Combat radius: 850 km (459 nmi, 528 mi)(air superiority, two AAMs and three drop tanks)
Ferry range: 2,200 km(1,187 nmi, 1,367 mi)--{drop tanks not indicated by source}
Service ceiling: 17,500 m (57,420 ft)
Rate of climb: 195 m/s (38,386 ft/min)
Armament
Guns: 2× 30 mm Type 30-1 cannon, 60 rounds per gun
Hardpoints: 5 in total - 4× under-wing, 1× centreline under-fuselage with a capacity of 2,000 kg maximum (up to 500 kg each)[37]
Rockets: 55 mm rocket pod (12 rounds), 90 mm rocket pod (7 rounds)
Missiles:
Air-to-air missiles: PL-2, PL-5, PL-7, PL-8, PL-9, Magic R.550, AIM-9

note any fighter that can fire a AIM-9 can fire an Rb 98 (IRIS-T)

BOTH AIRFORCES CURRENTLY DONT HAVE BVR.


Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_JAS_39_Gripen

wiki uses information for saab and Jane's All The World's Aircraft 2003–2004.

The Griffin's Avionics and sensors are way advanced than the F7. You're a fool to think the F7 can take on the multi role Griffin. Any old fighter with a "tail" can be send flying down by any modern delta wing plane. You don't wonder why India returned those Jets without canards to Russia.

NaijaPikinGidi: You make me laugh when I don't have too, are you so sick or is there weakness in your brain? Why do you come here and keep making a fool of yourself?

Laughing at the rust on your obsolete arsenal?

NaijaPikinGidi: 21st October 2013 is today's date! Now can you tell us why you are so adamant about living in the past? This as usual is recycled nonsense! Wake up young man! Feel the Nigerian breeze! You can never avoid the realities in your face.

As human beings we learn from our past,we use experience to solve problems. If you don't have that experience you're completely useless. The only Nigerian chilling breeze I'm feeling is Boko Haram striking again,I mean slaughtering innocent people. And its 21st October 2013. itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-32323/

agaugust: hahaha

sorry man ! this thread has changed from what it was on page 1 to 12 with new facts emerging on pages 200 to 818

the nigerian F-7 jet that you south africans were insulting is NOT the crap you made us believe long time ago, the NAF F-7NI version of the jet is now sinking your valour frigate and it is too much for you to stomach so your belly vomits gabbage and thrash in response

your comment is a 100% failure....

since you dont know the real art of war, i have taught you south africans the deadly combat tactic called SATURATION ATTACK, it sank your Valour frigates so easily.

nobody said PL-9 missiles will be put inside a nigerian rocket pod, where did you see that in my post ? dummy

each F-7 jet has 5 different pylons/hardpoints to carry a mixture of different weapons all at the same time, both missiles and rocket pods.

F-7 jet can climb up to heights more than 17 km above sea level.

check F-7 jet facts on google http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chengdu_J-7

the NAF jets carry missiles on some pylons and rocket pods on other pylons, and 50 different types of jet fighters are available for war today in nigerian air force. FACT !

the snail slow Valour frigate warship moves at maximum speed about 55 km/hr but F-7 jet rockets move at speed about 3,000 km/hr and its PL-9 missiles move at speed about 4,000 km/hr so the nigerian attack is 60 times faster than the south african victim.

Alpha jets, L-39 Albatross jets, and MBB 339 jets of nigeria are also joining F-7 jet in rocketing your expensive warships into pieces and sunk to sea bottom.

this combat simulation defeat is too humiliating for you south africans' over-bloated pride to absorb

Abuja has k.illed Pretoria, Mandela and Zuma have NO NAVY ANYMORE....FACT !!!

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Just like you said in your simulation. Your navy hides when SAN shows up,your army and air force will do the same when their South African counterparts show up. What kind of a dummy uses free bombs or rockets at the height 13km to bomb a stealth warship? Your F7 is simply a MiG-21 which SAAF used cannon fire to destroy in Angola. And it is simply an interceptor its ground attack capabilities are highly limited.

agaugust: this post reminds me....


[size=16pt] nigerian army Scorpion Tanks upgraded [/size]


nigerian army has recently upgraded in Europe, our Scorpion Recce / Light Tanks with new main gun from the 76mm to 90mm with more fire-power, longer fire-range, and faster engine speed.

also, the Scorpion tank is faster than normal tanks with speed 70 km/hr to 80km/hr for upgraded versions.

Nigeria has about 200 Scorpion Tanks and some of them can be fitted to carry our deadly Swingfire anti-tank missiles.

first photo... old scorpion

second photo...new scorpion

Unless Nigeria get real fighter jets to counter 2 squadron's Griffins,this tanks are just going to be nice targets for the SANDF artillery,Hawks and the Rooivalk.

chris365: These south Africans must have a very short memory to be criticizing Nigerian military training with NATO while an inexperienced Brazilian military just schooled SANDF on jungle warfare just to fight ordinary rebels om DRC.

very soon M23 will offer to train them to fight poachers

South Africa sent officers to receive training,Brazil is not training the SANDF. M23 rebels are shooting at each other as we speak,the Kampala peace talks are failing.

agaugust: hahahaha and they tell lies to us here on nairaland they they want to buy long range missiles, more submarines, more warships, more lies , more propaganda, more day dreams....south africa CANNOT even maintain most of the heavy heavy weapons its has as at today.



[size=16pt] South African Gripen Jets Decay...Rotten...Broken In Pieces By Cannibalization [/size]



This follows Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula’s admission earlier this year that few of the Gripens are actually flying, with most of them being held in long-term storage. It has also been reported that the aircraft in storage are being cannibalised for spares to keep a handful of aircraft flying.

Cannibalization is a military behaviour when there is no cash to buy spare parts, they dismantle in pieces engine parts from one jet which becomes grounded and useless, to replace worn out spare parts of flying jets.

south african air force is decaying and rotting away more and more everyday.

photo of a Gripen jet in pieces, south african air force jets are fast looking like this one....

[img]http://1.bp..com/-gjbvTBm8jJg/Ujod6WX-etI/AAAAAAAAC6k/a0XcY_h1AOU/s1600/Gripen-%2528001%2529.jpg[/img]


news that the South African Air Force’s (SAAF’s) R2bn fleet of Agusta 109 helicopters has joined the Gripen fighter jets in cold storage due to a lack of funds to fly them while VIP helicopter flights continue, has sparked outrage.

meanwhile, all nigerian military's about 30 units of Augusta Helicopters are all flying today, i wonder why south africans boast of a much bigger military budget than nigeria, what are they doing with all their defence money they boast of on nairaland ? their military is in a state of weapons decay.

also again, due to better experience in managing a flying and operational air force which guides the types of aircraft nigeria purchases, all nigerian air force 12 units of F-7 jets with their world class powerful PL-9C air to air missiles keep flying and maintained everyday supported by about 40 units of Alpha Jets, L-39 Albatross Jets, MBB 339 Jets all fully upgraded and modernized with better weapons and electronic counter measures in Europe very recently, and further ground support from a formidable air defence with Roland SAM, Type 90 AAA, and soon the expected AKASH SAM from India with 35km anti-aircraft missile range.

a living dog is better than a dead lion.

Time and again I showed you how your Roland will destroyed by Umbani PGM. SAAF has experienced against the AA guns,we flown against them in Angola. Nigeria's army would be test dummies which precise or free fall bombs would test on