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delvinmaya: @ mike..za, give it a rest will you?? You are starting to sound like a broken record. Think rather of ways to develop your country and deal with your shit, rather than obsess over someone else's shit

Oh man did I really hit the nerve?. Don't worry yum eating igbo boy. Let's talk facts please. NO INSULTS. Your Nigerian brothers know me as Mike..Facts!!!!

Augustine Again: you really a dumbo, nigeria has about 30 combat helicopters (M-24 Hind, Mi-35 Hind, Mi-171s Terminator Armed version, AW 109 LUH Armed version) and south africa has only 11 Rooivalks

...and most of your huge military budget is spent paying fat salaries to fat bellied soweto soldiers who dont want to fight and die in any war...only want to get monthly salries

reason they refused to go back to C.A.R Bangui and challenge Seleka rebels teenagers who disgraced South Africa's army for the world to see

.NIGERIAN TERMINATOR COMBAT HELICOPTERS...NEWLY ARRIVED

http://beegeagle./2013/03/18/procurement-news-nigerian-air-force-acquire-3nos-mi-35p-hind-attack-helicopters-6nos-mi-171sh-terminator-assault-helicopters-from-russia-expecting-a-maiden-haul-of-of-2nos-sukhoi-su-25-frogfo/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Air_Force

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The Helicopters SA destroyed in Angola?. Why the UN decided to deploy the Rooivalk instead of the Mi-24?...Mi-24 failed to stop M23 advance last year. They failed to stop seleka earlier this year. They were scary when they were introduced back in the 1970s not now.

[quote author=drag_on]its not like the "Rainbow Nation" of yesterday is older than i or my country men then fighting in somalia.[/quote]1940s The South African army was fighting in the WW2. Before Nigeria was even a recognised state.

Nigeria27: shouldn't our two countries work together instead of fighting on the internet ?

Nigerians don't wanna except the fact that South Africa is ahead in terms of technology. Also there's an undeclared competition between the two.

agaugust: i am beginning to see signs that nigerian military top brass have analysed every threat possible from all other african countries and have a combat solution to every possible threat.

reason they are not afraid of anybody buying any weapons we dont have in nigeria.

i think the only hurry now that nigerian military wants to quickly settle is the beyond visual range ultra modern AKASH 35km range land based anti-aircraft missiles purchase from india.

this will give us more air defence range against countries like Egypt since Roland SAM range is about 8km.

with the coming AKASH SAM, coming Type 056 Stealth warship, coming Pipavav Tiger class Stealth warship, the existing PL-9C air to air missiles, Otomat anti-ship missiles, beyond visual range ASPIDE anti-aircraft missiles with 75km range for air defence at sea, Bofors F-77 40km range artillery, APR-40 mobile Rocket artillery with 45km range, Palmaria mobile artillery with 30km range, ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft, Spy Satellites in orbit.....

even Egypt will think twice before attacking nigeria.

South Africa wont even try it, they will look for another way of committing suicide at home in soweto . FACT !!!


http://beegeagle./2013/03/07/india-to-help-nigeria-modernise-her-air-defences-spotlight-on-the-indian-made-akash-medium-range-area-defence-missile-system/


[img]http://3.bp..com/_44d3OT-xI3U/SvcUNZho4lI/AAAAAAAABL0/tn0Rd7d11i0/s1600/Akash%2BChart-2.JPG[/img]

Do you know the Umbani PGM has a range up to 140km?

[quote author=drag_on]You did not help them launch it, and your tracking services was only secondary.

FIJI will be the data collection hub for a space mission to Mars by the Indian Government.

An 18-member team of top scientists and engineers from India's International Space Research Organisation (ISRO) is in the country to pave the way for India's first-ever satellite mission to the Red Planet later this month.

The $US69million ($F127.3m) Mars Orbiter Mission called Mangalyaan will be launched from India and scientists expect the rocket to enter space from somewhere high above Fiji's airspace or somewhere close.

The mission will be monitored from Fiji and other parts of the South Pacific ocean.

In an exclusive interview with this newspaper, ISRO scientist and project leader Mirza Mohammed Zaheer said one ship, which would monitor the tracking of the satellite, was in Fiji while another would arrive on Saturday.

"We are sending a satellite to orbit towards the Mars planet so in that, the injection of the satellite will take place somewhere in the South Pacific ocean," Mr Zaheer said.

"We will be going on the ship-bound terminals and getting the data, transmitting to our launch centre from our ship and those data will be used for the satellite, further establishing the mission, doing the Mars capture and then start orbiting Mars."

Mr Zaheer said the trajectory of the rocket would be over Fiji.

"There are some technical perimeters which defines the trajectory. The duration will be 25 days."

India's High Commissioner to Fiji Vinod Kumar said with the purpose of tracking, ISRO scientists and other concerned agencies would be in Fiji monitoring aboard the two Indian ships from two different points in the Pacific ocean.

He said the Indian Deep Space Network would perform the navigation and tracking operations of the mission while NASA Deep Space Network will provide support services during the non-visible period of the Indian Deep Space Network.

Mr Kumar said ISRO would use its Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle Rocket with the objective to develop technologies required for design, planning, management and operations of an interplanetary mission.

"Fiji has been chosen for its ideal location, being a communication hub and our close and friendly relations," he said.

"We are thankful to the government of Fiji and other agencies for their support in this mission. Such visits contribute to strengthening our relations and would also be helpful in developing relations in the area of science and technology."

He said the team would present the model rocket and satellite to President Ratu Epeli Nailatikau today.

The Mars Orbiter Mission carries a thermal infra-red imaging spectrometer to map Mars' surface composition and mineralogy.

http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=248333[/quote]Question here: What did Nigeria do? Only a country like SA is trusted in helping. THIS is not AMATEAR EPE rocket thing.

agaugust: south africa has NOT fought a single war for the past 25 years.

the only battle they fought lasted only about 5 hours and involved onlt about 200 south african soldiers.

i have never see any military analyst in this world that ever said a 5 hour battle of 200 soldiers makes a 50,000 man army battle hardened

i mean....the 200 SANDF men fighting and running away from Seleka rebels were also at the same time battle hardening the remaining 48,800 south african soldiers who were sleeping at home with their wives under a blanket

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Nor has Nigeria been in any war in the past 25 years. The entire SANDF won't and will never be activated unless South African land is threatened. The year you see the Chief of the SANDF calling the reserves for duty is the same year you will see the best armed forces in Africa in action. The army that destroyed an entire brigade in one day.

[quote author=drag_on]Pictures of Nigeria Armed Forces in somalia 1991,where is the SANDF? Oh it did not exist. .
And they want to compare which is battle hardened.


courtesy Beegeagle Blog.[/quote]Which hard fought battle was Nigeria involved in?. Show me any battle Nigeria was involved in and comparable to the battle of Cassinga.

[quote author=drag_on] what Force is battle hardened? SANDF? We can argue about the SADF but SANDF??!!! Pleeaaassseeee spare me,if you say Nigeria Armed forces were not in the second world war but our soldiers were then by the same logic The SANDF has no battle experience whatsoever except CAR where they had there noses rubbed on cow dung.The SADF is a different Kettle of Fish, but the SANDF. Spare me.The SADF(executive outcomes its remnants) is no more, they were disbanded and replaced with political(freedom fighters) appointments and you claim SADF thunder? .Your Army cant fight diddysquat.[/quote]. Officers commanding the SA army units are bush war veterans. The only difference between the SANDF and SADF is funding back then defence spending was at all high sitting at 4% of the GDP. Nigerians will be like DRC soldiers asking: White men fighting on the African continent for an African country?. Nigerians were taken to fight in Burma,The Nigerian army didn't fight in World War 2. Which Unit of the Nigerian army fought in WW2.

agaugust: go tell those lies to the united nations forces in congo DRC.

Which part of my comment is a lie. Only South Africa,Tanzania and Malawi are whopping butt. They're now repositioning/deploying to strike Sheka's rebels. NO SOLDIER!! I repeat NO soldier in the Nigerian army has ever been on the receiving end of the firing line of 122mm howitzer and T-55 MBT. NOT THIS IS MODERN TIMES.

agaugust: Nigeria, the biggest war ever on African soil is Biafran war 1967-1970 with half a million soldiers fighting on both sides and the largest marine/amphibious landing in african history was done by nigerian navy warships and army 3rd marine commandoes.

now go drink your own urine , you need natural cure therapy

You can't differ between the words battle and war. The biggest battle in Africa after World war 2 took place in Southern Africa. You already know which country was involved. Google it screen shoot the search results from your tablet,Laptop or smartphone and post them here. Show me where in your Biafran were modern Tanks,APCs,artillery,MRLS,armoured fighting vehicles,SAMs and jets were involved in a single high intensity battle. IN WHICH BATTLE IN THE Biafran war did this happen??!!! I'm bring it back again: Check your humble in your microwave,after reading this.

agaugust: nigeria's 200 units M-56 Yugoslav 105mm artillery guns are modern.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M56_Howitzer

nigerian APR-40 rocket artillery are 1990s generation.

both nigerian Palmaria mobile artillery and south african G6 Rhino artillery are 1980's generation.

so whats your medula oblongata telling you ?

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All your 105mm howitzers are outranged by the G7 105mm,which the SA army has prototypes(AMLAGC) of. Your APR-40 is just the same Grad South Africa faced during operation savannah. Palmaria compared to the G6 is a joke!!! A PURE JOKE!!!!!! Remember seeing images of that turtle destroyed in Libya by French air strikes.

agaugust: south africa too CANNOT operate its half-french Rooivalk helicopter if hit by sanctions, the engine is imported fully made in France .

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South Africa is flying those helicopters without any french help. SAAF can fund Denel to develop Rooivalk Mark 2,excluding all French components. We build the Rooivalk with sanction on SA. China asked SA for help when they were developing their Z-10!!!!!

agaugust: only nigeria has Roland missiles and PL-9C missiles in the whole of africa, they are too expensive for every other sub-saharan military to buy in your neighbourhood, so you dont have any access to study them

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Dinosaur missile? Oh sorry you mean Roland missile?. We don't have to study those cause the Umbani PGM will put them to flames.

agaugust: how many south african army soldiers have died in wars or fire fights since the past 25 years ? only 15 killed by seleka

how does that make an whole army battle hardened ?

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It is in our blood. In our rich military history. Our ancestors like warrior king Shaka Zulu,went to combat with lesser men that the enemy but came back to his kraal with more troops. In bush war,in CAR now the DRC as the descendants of this great warriors,we always go to war with lesser men but always manage to inflict heavy numbers on the enemy. We can't speak the same with Nigeria,how many casualties in last 25 years? You can't even tell,even your troops are treated abroad. SHAME ON YOU FAKE GIANT that can't take care of her children,when they're injured fighting for her interests.

agaugust: show us source that says a black south africa navy sailor sank a german submarine. show us now

german u-boats sank several south african warships in world war II.

south africa submarine story in modern times is a war game of NATO fooling soweto :



the south african navy submarine was used to target 5 old outdated NATO warships and only 1 modern frigate



HOLLAND's naval ship is a 2005 technology stealth ship and is the only modern ship in the whole 6 ship NATO task force. Holland is one of the European countries with No sensible war experience in modern times, they avoid deadly combat.

the 5 other NATO navy ships are much older technology and close to their retirement age, they are :

USA navy ship is 1988 technology and now retired from a service
CANADA's navy ship is 1990 technology
PROTUGAL SICK BABY OF EUROPE's navy ship is 1991 technology
DENMARK navy's ships is 1981 technology and now retired from service
GERMANY's naval ship is an ordinary fuel storage tanker ship with 1977 technology

the SOUTH AFRICAN navy submarine is 2006 technology used against 5 outdated old warships with inferior technology


the NATO navies had better warships but did not bring them to south africa. also, no british, french, german or italian navy warship was present in the NATO force, and these are the 4 most powerful NATO countries in europe.

British navy stealth destroyer warship HMS Daring and US navy Arleigh Burke stealth destroyer warship have both been fully operational since 2006, a year before the so called defeat of NATO warships and they did not come to south africa then for the NATO war game.


nigerian navy too can use our 2012 Type 056 Stealth light frigate warship to missile target lock on that same american 1988 warship because it cannot see the nigeria stealth vessel built with modern stealth technology, then we come to nairaland and boast that nigeria navy defeated american warship !

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The USA navy is weak against detecting diesel submarines. They had to lease the best in class(Gotland submarine from Sweden)y,to enhance their anti-submarine capability(diesel submarines). On many occasions the British and USA navies failed to detected the Swedish diesel submarines with their best equipment. You're dealing with Mike..ZA here!!!!

agaugust: show us source that says a black south africa navy sailor sank a german submarine. show us now

german u-boats sank several south african warships in world war II.

south africa submarine story in modern times is a war game of NATO fooling soweto :



the south african navy submarine was used to target 5 old outdated NATO warships and only 1 modern frigate



HOLLAND's naval ship is a 2005 technology stealth ship and is the only modern ship in the whole 6 ship NATO task force. Holland is one of the European countries with No sensible war experience in modern times, they avoid deadly combat.

the 5 other NATO navy ships are much older technology and close to their retirement age, they are :

USA navy ship is 1988 technology and now retired from a service
CANADA's navy ship is 1990 technology
PROTUGAL SICK BABY OF EUROPE's navy ship is 1991 technology
DENMARK navy's ships is 1981 technology and now retired from service
GERMANY's naval ship is an ordinary fuel storage tanker ship with 1977 technology

the SOUTH AFRICAN navy submarine is 2006 technology used against 5 outdated old warships with inferior technology


the NATO navies had better warships but did not bring them to south africa. also, no british, french, german or italian navy warship was present in the NATO force, and these are the 4 most powerful NATO countries in europe.

British navy stealth destroyer warship HMS Daring and US navy Arleigh Burke stealth destroyer warship have both been fully operational since 2006, a year before the so called defeat of NATO warships and they did not come to south africa then for the NATO war game.


nigerian navy too can use our 2012 Type 056 Stealth light frigate warship to missile target lock on that same american 1988 warship because it cannot see the nigeria stealth vessel built with modern stealth technology, then we come to nairaland and boast that nigeria navy defeated american warship !

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I said a warship not submarine. Nigeria doesn't have any modern stealth frigate.

agaugust: Russia has no modern war history or experirnce against any strong country since 1945 world war II.

Chechen rebels were weaker than 130,000 liberian plus sierra leonean rebels.

Mujahedeen rebels were just like Boko Haram.

Georgia is as weak as Chad and Cameroon.

Russia does NOT have better modern war experience than Nigeria, yet Russia is number two super power of the world, same way Nigeria is number two super power of Africa only after Egypt. FACT !!!

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The Soviet Union was involved in the bush war too. Chad is a land locked country. Georgia has navy. The Russian army saw its weakness of ageing equipment when they fought Georgia. Russia is only number cause of nuclear weapons and troop numbers. Mujahadeen rebels had APCs,Tanks and SAMs Boko haram has one of this? NO!!!.

agaugust: Russia has no modern war history or experirnce against any strong country since 1945 world war II.

Chechen rebels were weaker than 130,000 liberian plus sierra leonean rebels.

Mujahedeen rebels were just like Boko Haram.

Georgia is as weak as Chad and Cameroon.

Russia does NOT have better modern war experience than Nigeria, yet Russia is number two super power of the world, same way Nigeria is number two super power of Africa only after Egypt. FACT !!!

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The Soviet Union was involved in the bush war too. Chad is a land locked country. Georgia has navy. The Russian army saw its weakness of ageing equipment when they fought Georgia. Russia is only number cause of nuclear weapons.

agaugust: i thought you that truth, say thank you sir. mister fake 70km range G-6 artillery that has only a 38km range shell

The SANDF has a lot of 155mm munitions. Except the chemical and insertion shells. The SANDF uses the vulture drone to direct and correct artillery fire,any target on the vulture's cameras will be destroyed. Nigeria lacks that capability.

agaugust: nigeria has 48 Bofors artillery. south aafrica has 46 G-6 artillery. so use your head, stop borrowing mine.

nigeria's total artillery guns are 660 units, south africa has 120 units.

nigeria has a current nuclear reactor contruction project bigger than the mini nuclear reactor we have now. we deal in nuclear power with Russia.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a6xdU8aDRJCQ

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Who's protected between a crew operating the G6 and crew operating the Bofors? Never forgetting the G5. Your other artillery have the range of 29 km or lesser. Which guns can be easily spotted? You guess it right the Bofors!!! Nigeria can't fight South Africa in the opened African savannah. South Africa development nuclear weapons before Nigerians' evolved to have a brain. WE ALREADY HAVE A NUCLEAR POWER STATION!!!!

agaugust: Tanzania has 12 old 1980 version F-7A jets, the only modern version they have is F-7MG of 2011 new version and 6 units only.

Tanzanian F-7 jets have no ultra-modern PL-9C missiles of nigerian F-7 jets, so how do you rate them higher ?

tell me, are you a military man , policeman, or a just civilian who operates a beer palour or wine bar ?

i cannot avoid laughing at your military comments, really cracks my ribs like basket mouth and papa ajasco

Nigeria has the most expensive, most powerful and best loaded F-7 jet in the world at $15 million each for our 12 units.

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Tanzania took delivery of new J-7G. Read what the link says about OLD F7s. Are you still laughing Igbo boy!!! AGAIN MIKE..ZA is hitting your blue balls!!! LINK BELOW http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-32804/

agaugust: did your seeker drone make you win the war in angola ? NO

ordinary nigerian Type 90 computerized anti-aircraft guns with 6.5km range will shoot down all south african drones, and in few minutes you have no drones flying any more

south africa has ZERO air superiority over nigeria, F-7 jet missile range and south african Gripen jet range are both eqaul and within visual range of each other. so where is the air superiority ? fool

ATR-42 Surveyor will be operating with its 330km range radar from nigerian side of the battle frontline, Gripen jet missile range is only 25km, and F-7 jets will escort to protect the NAF ATR-42, like this photo shows you....

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Your ATR-42 is a maritime surveillance aircraft. Nigeria can't a afford to lose surveillance in the sea,where South Africa is powerful with stealth Frigates and submarine. South Africa has air superiority over Nigeria cause SAAF can deploy 12 fighter jets while some are still available for training and integrating new weapon systems. SAAF has an EW capability and Nigeria doesn't. How many F7 will be deployed at sea? How many F7 will deployed at the field to intercept ground bombings by the SAAF Hawk lead in fighter?. How many F7 will deployed to carry out air strikes on SA positions?. How many F7 will be deployed to carry out Recce missions?..

agaugust: SAS Drakensberg of south african navy is a suppy ship with no single missile to defend itself. NNS ARADU will sink it as target practice.

it was the only ship you had in ivory coast at that time. if we sink it, we prepare for war. nigerian spy satellites will see any south african Valour frigate before they reach nigeria from your 5,000km away naval base, and ATR-42 Surveyor of NAF is going to detect your whole navy from 330km away.

south africa will not be able to torpedo NNS ARADU, she will be safe in harbour because south african submarines CANNOT reach nigerian waters 5,000km away without surfacing or snorkeling and nigerian satellites and ATR-42 surveyor master of the ocean will see your submarines coming, then NNS ARADU withdraws into safe harbour sourrounded by anti-submarine and anti-frogmen nets and mines.

south african navy Type 209 submarine has only a submerged range of 740km and nigeria is 5,000km away.

this is the weakness of south african navy submarines i said i have seen and i will post, the naval blockade if attempted will be a total disaster leading to the wiping out of south africa's expensive but not so effective naval power.

then nigeria will invade south africa and take your homeland !

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Ever heard about Recces? South African special forces?. Submarines won't be "docked" at your ports to sink your NNS Arandu,just like that Russian ship in Angola. SANDF special forces(explosive experts) will exist the submarine(covert insertion) from a safe distance the last thing your admirals will be hearing in Abuja is that Aradu has sunk after a loud explosion.

agaugust: nigeria has israeli aerostar drones and nigerian made amebo drones version III for targeting.

however, in national army vs national army combat, drones cannot survive in an environment full of anti-aircraft defences and jet fighters.

use your head if you have one

nigeria has the best targeting system for artillery guns in africa.

1. nigerian army and sweden's NATO army use the same Bofors F-77 gun and targeting sophistication is the same world class, world's best.

2. nigerian ATR-42 surveyor aircraft also does land operations by using its radar, TV cameras, infra red FLIR detectors, long range vision bubble windows, and night vision hardware to scan the ground from a distance up to 330km, thus detecting all south african army weapons and troops locations without any challenge from south african starstreak missiles which have altitude of only 1km and a zero threat to the nigerian ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft.

the NAF aircraft has capacity to scan hundreds of thousands of square kilometers of land in a few minutes and track 100 targets simultaneously as we already use it to even track human beings and vehicles moving on ground in our illegal cross border detection operations.

nigeria will find all south african army locations, receive azimuth and GPS targeting data and artillery fire control/accuracy re-direction from the NAF ATR-42 surveyor aircraft and bombard with 45km range APR-40 rockets and 40km range Bofors F-77 guns.....then we roast mandela's army, then zuma will cry like a new born baby.


http://www.atraircraft.com/media/downloads/ATR%2042%20Surveyor%202004.pdf

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How many missiles it took to down the Seeker drone in Angola?. Since you're drones won't be used,South Africa still obtains edge over Nigeria with its Ratel EAOS(Enhanced artillery observation system). Nigeria would bombed into ashes yum eating igbo boy.

agaugust: nigeria has israeli aerostar drones and nigerian made amebo drones version III for targeting.

however, in national army vs national army combat, drones cannot survive in an environment full of anti-aircraft defences and jet fighters.

use your head if you have one

nigeria has the best targeting system for artillery guns in africa.

1. nigerian army and sweden's NATO army use the same Bofors F-77 gun and targeting sophistication is the same world class, world's best.

2. nigerian ATR-42 surveyor aircraft also does land operations by using its radar, TV cameras, infra red FLIR detectors, long range vision bubble windows, and night vision hardware to scan the ground from a distance of between 100km to 330km, thus detecting all south african army weapons and troops locations without any challenge from south african starstreak missiles which have altitude of only 1km and a zero threat to the nigerian ATR-42 Surveyor aircraft.

nigeria will find all south african army locations, receive azimuth and GPS targeting data and artillery fire control/accuracy re-direction from the NAF ATR-42 surveyor aircraft and bombard with 45km range APR-40 rockets and 40km range Bofors F-77 guns.....then we roast mandela's army, then zuma will cry like a new born baby.


http://www.atraircraft.com/media/downloads/ATR%2042%20Surveyor%202004.pdf

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South Africa operated the Seeker in Angola against Cuba,Angola and the Soviet Union. These had better air defence systems. South Africa will enjoy air superiority. Your Bofors F-77 requires gun tractors,supply vehicles to fuel those tractors. The G5 can be easily by its crew on the battlefield. That ATR-42 is a maritime surveillance aircraft,but it can be detected by the Thutlwa radar intercepted by a Gripen JAS-39C and a shoot down by cannon fire. Did you know that South Africa used balloons attached with aluminium strips to fool Angolan/Cuban radar? They fired the their SAMs. Betraying their positions. THINK AGAIN!!

agaugust: any dummy can post lies on wikipedia dude, reason why i use it with caution and compare other sources, then i use my common sense too.

the south african long range sniper shot is fake , according to your own SANDF army general. we posted that source many times here at that time.

Lieutenant General Derrick Mgwebi(Chief of joint operation) was making a political statement. The SANDF can't reveal operation details yet,cause it is a UN mission. "The battalion has certain elements" he said. A platoon of recces+a parabats company is in the DRC.

agaugust: south africa should slay seleka rebels first, then we can let you try somalia's al-shabbab islamic terrorists with kenya leading you into battle. if SANDF still has any army alive, we can then talk about soweto vs lagos

Seleka is dead. Soweto(South west township) is part of Jozi and Jozi is a better city than both over poplulated Lagos and Abuja. THIS IS JOHHANESBURG!!!.............South Africa will NEVER go on the offensive unless a centimetre of our land is threatened. The SANDF can unleash Mfecane part 2!!!!

agaugust: I thougth your few weeks absence from this forum would afford south african society enough time to install some herbal formula upgrades in your usually half empty coconut head.....but it didn't work out
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Nigeria's fight against BH is now considered a civil war according to the ICC. Mike..ZA IS BACK!!!! Tell your fellow Nigerians to wear steel underwears cause,I'm back and about to kick your blue igbo balls.

agaugust: south africa is foolish, your weapons dont sell any meaningful quantity in the world because you build expensive things with european help and still hope to sell to the same europeans that can afford expensive weapons.

ask DENEL to hire me and i will rebuild their weapons marketing strategy, DENEL cannot compete with great super powers america, russia, NATO, china etc in the weapons business.

nigeria is smarter than south africa, that NNS ANDONI is cheap enough for all african countries to buy and maintain locally.....ask china the secret of their new status as world super power.....smarter than the americans and europeans.

70% of the goods we buy here in america today are made in china.

south africa is a fool, nigeria is a genius

South Africa manufactures the best MRAPS in the world and bought in high numbers by the USA and the UK. How many ships has Nigeria sold? And How many ships has South Africa sold?. Regarding China we all know the USA can roast China any day without the use of Nuclear weapons. Since both of them are technically at war with each other. Tomahawk cruise missiles!!!!

agaugust: nigerian M-24 helicopter is battle tested worldwide. south african Rooivalk is NOT battle tested anywhere, dont mention M23 rebels....that is not a war....and the whole united nations military was involved.

The Mi-24 might have been battle tested world wide. But can Nigerian crews operate in real combat?. SAAF shoot down those Hinds in Angola,SAAF knows their capabilities and weakness. SAAF proved that the Rooivalk can be operated if needed.

agaugust: south africa build SAS Drakensberg with outside help as you always get help from europe.

that SAS Drakensberg ship was saved by nigeria's crying fowl in ivory coast, we could have kept quiet and send NNS ARADU to sink that jacob zuma's warship with only one Otomat anti-ship missile, and that will be end of story.

south africa dare not go to war with nigeria, every other warship you send to nigerian waters will be sunk in a naval blockade battle either by nigerian coastal artillery or air to surface rockets from our jet fighters.

now soweto chief, dont boast of your country's d..i..c..k, it is very small like a half smoked cigarette butt

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The ECOWAS was crying "this South African war ship will complicate things". Your jets will have to dave down to attack with rockets,only to shot down from the sky by the Umkhonto. That NNS Arandu would have been sunk by a torpedo,within weeks of doing that.