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nnokwa042:
this story gladdens my hart ,why can't Muslim respect their host state ekiti,while ekiti people re celebrating their masquerade this Muslim fanatics re trying to disturb they got what they deserve, can masquerade disturb Muslim in Saudi Arabia? Muslims should respect ekiti people

The way you said 'why can't muslims respect their host state, Ekiti' is amusing. Ain't the Muslims that were attacked indigenes of Ekiti state? Except you're saying that all indigenes of Ekiti are egun worshipers. You intentionally missed the part where the masquerades went into the mosque to attack them, right?

mykl01:
Nice piece of document you are showing there.
You weren't on NL when they nearly killed a Christian in Kaduna for eating while Muslims were fasting. If not....

So, because some idiots chose to kill a Christian makes this one right too, right? By your logic, 2 wrongs make a right.

Why don't we just throw the constitution away and live by the Mosaic Law of 'An eye for an eye' then. Let's all go back to the State of Nature.

Goldfaze1:
skipping one square meal out of three square meal is that one fasting your allah really deceived you egun abeg make una continue de chup their father!!!

What's your business with how Muslims choose to practise their religious obligation of fasting? Why don't you heed to the advice in 1 Thesallonians 4:11. It'll do you good.

Cheers!

Goldfaze1:
You know Muslims are evil doers so it will take a bigger evil to subdue them, I love what the egun worshipers did to those Muslims in fact they should destroy all the mosques in Ekiti state!!

The egungun worshippers shouldn't leave all churches in Ekiti behind while in their rampage. Let them send all foreign religions out of Ekiti na.

Destruction for everyone!

Kathmandu:
When there is ORO in Lagos everyone respects the traditional customs by not walking around at night and obeying their instructions but I'm surprised that the Muslims
had to break the customs of the land because of Islam.



Traditional worship has been there before the advent of Islam in Ekiti land

Which law of the land was broken, please? Seems you didn't read that the masquerades INVADED the mosque. As in, they went inside the mosque to attack the worshippers inside.

Adiola:
Yoruba and indecision are they Christians No are they Muslims No abeg where una dey I yam not understand

So you believe a tribe should practise just one religion? Or what's the meaning of the 'Are they Muslims? No. Are they Christians? No' that you typed?

Of the 3 major tribes in Nigeria, the Yoruba tribe is the only one that has nearly equal representation in both religions. Among the Hausas, majority are Muslims while among the Igbos, majority are Christians.

akaahs:
suleiman is not a Muslim name rather hausa name meaning Solomon in English

This isn't true please. There's a prophet who went by that name in Islam. He's known as Solomon in the Bible. Suleiman is not an Hausa name.

emanobis:
In d case of Pastor Suleiman, Suleiman is a native northern name just as Uchenna or Ugochukwu is a native Igbo name or Kehinde and Opeyemi is a ntive yoruba name.
So,Suleiman is not an Arabic name,bt Paul, Peter is a Christian name jst as Adbulazeez or Adbuwaheeb is an Arabic name.

Suleiman is NOT a Northern name. There's a prophet who went by that name. Suleiman is also known as Solomon in Christianity.

papawember2016:
He used the Name Paul to deceived the Us

Deceive you and who? You really think the guy give a hoot about you or your feelings to change his name (because of what you think) because of his religion? When Mike Tyson became a Muslim, was it also deceit that made him keep his name?

airmark:
You pray for Jesus? You guys are deluded.

As Jesus is believed to be a prophet of God anytime his name is mentioned, a short prayer is said for him- just like any other prophet.

You didn't even ask the guy you quoted the kind of prayer, you just concluded that he's deluded.

miky:
Does this guys want people to hate him in England??

Why go join muslims now of all times! No body want to associate with them, especially after the bombing..

So stupid

What do you mean by 'Why go join Muslims now of all times'? Do you want him to hide his religion? What's so stupid about it?

Can the OP blur the plate number on that SUV? Doesn't seem right see the plate number of your vehicle pasted all over the Internet.

smithsydny:
just been curious

I understand. Things is, we need to separate the religion from its adherents. The people practising a religion are human and are bound to misbehave. What we should look for is if indeed the religion they profess supports what they claim to do for its sake.

osazsky:
Dem wat do u guys preach in d mosque

There's no guarantee that you'll believe what I tell you. So, pay attention to what the mosque nearest to you preaches, if you can't enter.

Your answer is there.

smithsydny:
but what he said is true.. Look at it.. I schooled in Zaria so I know wat its like bro. Them no born u well to bear musalachi.. Kai mana..


A friend of mine then in school just walked past a mosque they nearly mob him that nyt if not for student that knows him.. No vex too much abeg

Those who nearly mobbed him are in the wrong here. I bet they can't point to where it's written in the Qur'an or Hadith that a non Muslim passing by a mosque or entering a mosque should be attacked.

Islam isn't to be blamed here.

exlinkleads:
Question: Why will NL ask if am a Muslim before i can comment on Muslim thread?

Question 2: why aren't people asked if they are Christians before allowing them access to Christian threads?

Question 3: Is Seun a Muslim?

In the early days of NL, religious related topics especially Islam related ones were always battlegrounds. Non Muslims usually invaded those topics to mock and deride Islam and Muslims. Meanwhile, Christian topics didn't witness these attacks. A subsection, Islam for Muslims was thereafter created just for Muslims and their topics. This didn't prevent those attacks from coming. Seun then made topics about Islam appear on the front page only on Fridays. Some Muslims saw this as being unfair as Christian related topics graced the front page at anytime. So, the question being asked before you can make a comment on Islamic topics is one of the measures put in place by Seun to check these attacks on Islam topics on Nairaland.

Seun is a self confessed atheist, by the way.

lagostokd:
I like the way you addressed the issue. It shows maturity.

Islam and Christianity are not the same.

Different values

Different faith

Different standards

Different God

Your statement is true 'Faeces, urine, semen, menstrual blood, blood from childbirth amongst others are considered to be impurities. So when a menstruating woman or woman who still has blood from childbirth doesn't pray, it's not discrimination but that they have to be pure first as when they're in those states, they're considered impure.'

It is not the same in Christ. In Christ Jesus, we are not pure in the presence of God based on outward factors like faeces, urine, etc - we can even pray in the toilet. Our God made us pure by the blood of Jesus. Our own purity is not mainly outward but internal purity. God looks at the heart, our motive.

The cleanest of men can be impure in the sight of God if his mind is not pure whereas a destitute can be very pure in the sight of God once he's aligned with Christ.

I'll like you to read the story of Lazarus and the rich man. It's an interesting story. You can Google it.

Lazarus was a poor man with sore - he eats from the crumbs that falls from the rich man's table yet he was accepted by God.

Allah wouldn't like to see the dirty Lazarus, I guess?

The differences in values and standards in religious beliefs is the reason I rarely engage in debates about them. That's the basis for tolerance, to be honest. But what usually leads to religious crisis is people trying to force their beliefs on others. I'm a follower of the 'Live and Let Live' principle. Apologies if I came a rude during the discourse.

Cheers.

lagostokd:
So according to Allah's standard, a menstruating woman's prayer is unacceptable and can only compare women to dogs and ass. The God that creates menstruation in women does not discriminate against the prayers of menstruating women.

You mentioned Paul in the book of Galatians. I don't get!

Are you talking about the same Paul that taught about how women prays and prophecies in the 1st part of 1 Corinthians Chapter 11?

Like I mentioned to someone earlier, stop looking for Bible verses to justify Islamic hatred/discrimination of women.

In Islam, cleanliness is an integral part of the the religion. The Prophet of Islam said Purity is half of Faith. One has to be in a state of purity before he/she can pray. Faeces, urine, semen, menstrual blood, blood from childbirth amongst others are considered to be impurities. So when a menstruating woman or woman who still has blood from childbirth doesn't pray, it's not discrimination but that they have to be pure first as when they're in those states, they're considered impure. Same goes for a man who ejaculates- whether it's prostatic fluid or the real semen. It's when both parties have purified themselves that they are allowed to observe Salaat.
Secondly, the kind of prayers the menstruating woman is forbidden from are the Salaats.

I didn't mention of Paul in Galatians. Check 1st Timothy and 1 Corinthians 14.
And I'm not using bible verses to justify what you term as discrimination of women in Islam. You accused Islam of being discriminatory while promoting Christianity as not. I merely pointed a verse to you where women 'seemed' to have been discriminated.

Ps- Seemed is in inverted commas because I'm not an expert at Christianity affairs and thus, can't conclude what was meant by the stated verse.

lagostokd:
You don't need to write all these. Anybody with good understanding of Islam knows that allowing women to pray side by side with men in mosques is just like allowing an ass or a dog in the mosque.

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:
Qatadah said: I heard Jabir ibn Zayd who reported on the authority of Ibn Abbas; and Shu'bah reported the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) as saying: A menstruating woman and a dog cut off the prayer. ( Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 2, Number 0703 )

Like I said, you have no knowledge of what you're talking about. In the Hadith you quoted, was it stated that a woman shouldn't pray in a mosque? The Hadith is about a menstruating woman. A menstruating woman is in a state of uncleanness. She can't pray or even fast. When in. prayer, being in a complete state of cleanliness is compulsory.

Isn't it quite convenient for you to totally ignore what I posted and pick and twist the one that suits your narrative? You have nothing to say about the words of Paul in the book of Timothy, right? You seek to portray Islam as a discriminating religion and Christianity as one that's not but turn a blind eye to Paul's words.

What's the word that's used to describe that?
Yeah, right... Hypocrisy.

Cheers.

Actuarydeji:
who even ignite this religion argument in this forum?

Those with small minds did. How religion came to enter the discussion is baffling.

sorepco:
I tot it said that abacha felt he was usurping his powers?? Its about power n not religion my friend.

Many of them didn't even read the article. They saw the headline, assumed in their small minds that it has to be religion motivated and rushed to make comments.

Abacha didn't even care to know if the judge was male, female or hermaphrodite. He summoned Oyinlola because he thought the due process in appointing a new judge wasn't followed.

lagostokd:
Fareehah Faheemah, stop looking for Bible verse to justify Islamic hatred for women!

In Islam, women are relegated as second class citizen!

Women can't lead prayer in mosque.

Women can't pray side by side with men in mosque.

It is haram for Muslim women to marry non-muslims but very OK for Muslim men to marry non-muslims.

What about the role of women in aljanah? Don't let me go there now!

In Christ Jesus, everybody is the same!

Read Galatians 3:26-29 slowly

26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Let Jesus be your Lord today

You have no knowledge of what you're talking about. As regards the issue of 'a Muslim woman not allowed to marry a non Muslim while a Muslim man is allowed to marry a non Muslim', Islam recognizes the leadership of the husband as the head of the house. Thus, if a Muslim woman marries the non Muslim man, it will be obligated for her to listen to the instructions of the man even if he says she should change her religion. Therefore, if a Muslim woman marries a non Muslim and is instructed by the husband to change her religion, she has to. This is what Islam is guiding against.

So, you believe that a woman not being allowed to lead prayers in mosque is discrimination? From time immemorial, duties and responsibilities have been assigned to different roles. In several cultures, the man is responsible for the well being of his family. Does that also mean that women in those cultures are being belittled? In fact, in the Bible you quoted in your post, it's in the book of Timothy where Paul forbade women from speaking in the church or have authority over a man.

A woman can't pray side by side a man in the mosque because free mixing of opposite sexes is not encouraged in Islam. This has nothing to do with discrimination: it's the rule.

In Islam, Aisha (RA) was the greatest teacher of the religion after the death of the prophet. She was (and still is) widely respected and reverred by all scholars of Islam. Do you know the huge respect that Islam gives mothers in Islam?

There's no where in the article where it's inferred that Abacha was against this.

crazyABO:
Don should hv just kept his mouth shut he shld knw pple would really come hard for him

He should be used to it. Moreover, should he not congratulate his friend on the birth of his son because people will talk? Even if he calls Dbanj privately to congratulate him, people would still talk on why he didn't wish Dbanj good.

Whatever the case, people will talk.

sbashir10:
ogah don jazzy, when you go marry??
abi you wan discover mungo park...

Marriage is a thing of the choice sha, but whats with the trending issue of baby mama's in Nigeria's music and film industry, this people are bad influences to the youth.

We shouldn't be surprised if someone's younger brother impregnate a girl and said i dey copy wizkid and davido..

Dbanj is married, bro. His marriage was lowkey.

davidif:
And what difference would that make?

You tell me!

I rarely see Ambode in meetings like this.

Ezedon:
I'm sure it was built in this APC regime

The way some of you use the phrase, 'I'm sure...' leaves me amused. Apparently, you've not been to Ikire before (or prior to APC regime), yet you claim to be sure the bridge was built by APC.

That bridge has been there for more than 15 years, for your information.

Alexis11:
You came late bro .... I'm sure you are already disgusted about how the Yorubas turned the "insult" to fun

Funny enough, the dude who posted the tweet didn't mean it as an insult. I follow him on Twitter and the tweet was part of a series of tweets where he was hailing the partying nature of the Yorubas.

willibounce1:
It's true yoruba people love to party and some of them can be really annoying. Some borrow money to throw a party hoping to make the money back from gifts and money sprayed on dance floor. Funny enough it's common among the ones who are struggling especially the muslims. They struggle to pay school fees for their children but will borrow money to throw party. You go see as them go struggle to buy Ramadan ram and go back to square one after Ramadan. There's no weekend yorubas don't block roads in ebutte meta / oshodi for one party or the other. And they'll still complain the country is hard.

Especially the muslims? Ramadan ram??

arrestdarrester:
Akamkpa is so much better in terms of accessibility. Obubra is about 9 hours from Calabar.

Ahan! Is this an attempt at sarcasm? Obubra is just about 3 hours from Calabar while Akamkpa is just about 45 mins.