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debosky: I disagree - marriage is available to all descendants of Adam and Eve - i.e. those who are human beings.

However, to optimally marry, you need to follow the instructions of the One who initiated marriage in the first place. In essence without conforming to what the originator intended, there are bound to be mistakes and misuse.

So,you are in consensus with the claim that no marriage ever took place before the one between Adam and Eve right ?

Pls reply
God help us

Happy birthday sir !

Help us all oh Lord !

I just don't want to toll another line on this ! My question was,'were they marriages before the one between Adam and Eve ? Oya,birdman or any other pls help me !

God help us all

italo: Okay...but the Child Mary breadtfed was called Mighty God by Isaiah and worshipped by the wise men right in Mary's arms.

What did you call them? 'Wise men' ! They saw the Christ in Jesus and decided to go pay their homage ! King Herod heard about it and considers it heretical hence the plans to kill the new born !
Now Italo,i have shown and given you answers severally to this very question.It is not my duty to convince you but the holy spirits.I have done my own part but if God desires you change your view concerning this issue,the holy spirit will finish the rest.
I have some bills to pay ! Back to work.
Thanks

God help us all

The truth is clear for everyone who cares to see ! Italo and other Roman catholics here,no one is attacking you but the Roman church's foundation is faulty but can be changed if the leaders want to be sincere and declear fully for Jesus ! Some times the way they present 'Mary' I wonder if it's same Mary the mother of Jesus or is there another ? Well,God will help us all to take the good side of the Roman church and drop the negative contradictory sides.

God help us all

italo: Show me the person that said Jesus was not human.

We Catholics say Jesus Christ was true God and true Man. So this long post is not for us at all.

I brought out the human aspect of Christ to show you italo how Christ was human who cried and was bre.astfed by his mom Mary since you were asking me who bre.astfed Jesus ! And also kaaycee who was asking if Jesus was two and i also showed him the human side of Jesus and the spirit side of Christ the messiah whom Mary never bre.astfed !
God help us

[quote author=St.Ola]Is every word uttered by Christ or every of his action contained in man's record of the gospel?[/quote]See below the anchor scripture of the Roman Catholics concerning discrediting of the bible and i know you will want to quote it after my reply :
John 21:25''Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written
The above scriptures goes to explain
Did you see where it was written in the bible that Christ went to toilet ? Or was taking his berth ? Or are we to conclude that becos it was not stated that Christ went to toilet so we can now say it never happened ? The point is that we know that since HE was human HE CERTAINLY/DEFINITELY went to toilet ! All that Christ wanted us to know concerning HIM was stated in the holly scripture.What ever you don't see is not relevant or important ! If Christ performed healing of the leppers 100 times,do you expect to see all the 100 times healing of lepers in the bible ? I think one is even enough to tell us that HE did it and approved of it.
John is saying that not everything was written down becos the WORLD will not be enough to contain the book that it would be written it. But do you know what,it will be mere duplication becos there shall be nothing new in the sense that that they will all align with what has been said and done before !
No one is against the Roman church saying new words or doing new things but let it agree with what has been earlier said and done !
See below the words of apostle Paul concerning contradictory new teachings/words and doctrines !
''But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

God help us

italo: So Jesus is not God?

Jesus is God the son,sent by God the father who sent HIS spirit to us in the name of HIS son Jesus !
Since it is clear to all that Jesus is God,let us look at the human nature of Jesus using the holy bible as a basis !
1 John 4:2-3'' Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh [/b]is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.''
From the scripture above,John said if you say that Jesus is not human also you are anti-Christ.
2 John 7:1''[b]For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
From the above,atleast we can establish that Jesus came into this world as a human. Pls see below what he passed through as human:
Galatian 4:4 ''But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law,''

Luke 2:7 ''And she gave birth to her firstborn son; and she wrapped Him in cloths, and laid Him in a [a]manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.'' Of course when Mary born THIS 'human'she MUST bre.astfeed am !(this should answer ur question concerning who Mary breastfed !

''Mathew 8:10''When Jesus heard this, he was amazed. Turning to those who were following him, he said, "I tell you the truth, I haven't seen faith like this in all Israel!

John 11:35''Jesus wept.'' Spirits don't cry ! Na human being dey cry !

Mary was the mother of Jesus who came in flesh and was breastfed by her lovely mum !
See AGAIN,below words of our lord Jesus Christ while HE was handling spiritual matters as the son of God and not son of Mary :
''While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”
But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?”And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers!For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”
God help us all

The only doctrines and traditions we are to follow MUST be as laid down by Jesus'HIS apostles as stated in the holy bible ! Any 'addition' MUST be in line with the scriptures making it not an addition per say !

God help us

nnatom: not just ur question alone, they have been asked many question but all they do is cover those questions and say another thrash. Take your time and read their post and chec their bible quotations and see if it is in line with all dey say. I pity them.

No body is fighting any body here but i think people should be told the 'truth' ! We all are learning but we should allow the holly spirit to teach us and not blindly follow doctrines of men that contradict's scriptures and come out to say the holy bible is faulty becos it was written by men but ur traditions and doctrines were laid down and observed by spirit !
See below the words of Christ to doctrines and tradition followers :
''.....He answered and said to them, "Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? For God commanded, saying, 'Honor your father and your mother'; and, 'He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.'But you say, 'Whoever says to his father or mother, "Whatever profit you might have received from me is a gift to God"--then he need not honor his father or mother.' Thus you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition.-Mathew 15:3-6
from Verse 7-9 see below what HE said to them :
''You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
'These people draw near to Me with their mouth,
And honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'
God will help you and also me so we do not miss out when the trumpet shall sound !
God help us

Kaycee7: m.k.o 2005 and naijadeyhia/4evergod. You haven't even attempted my question. Why?

Kaycee pls see the below also:
Jesus was the son of Mary-Remember 'HE came in the likeness of man'-No wonder the assertion that he was 100% man! This made Mary the mother of Jesus whom she bre.astfed !
Jesus is the son of God-Most Christians do not have a problem with this cos there are numerous scriptures to back it up ! But He was also 100 % spirit.This made HIM the son of God here and not of Mary.Mary can not bre.as't feed a spirit !
See below words of our lord Jesus Christ while HE was handling spiritual matters as the son of God and not son of Mary :
''While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”
But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?”And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers!For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”
The holy spirit will do the convincing part later on in ur lives !
God help us

italo: I thouhht you were attempting the question.

Who breastfed the child - the mighty God in Isaiah 9:6?

I thot you saw the below :
Jesus was the son of Mary-Remember 'HE came in the likeness of man'-No wonder the assertion that he was 100% man! This made Mary the mother of Jesus whom she bre.astfed !
Jesus is the son of God-Most Christians do not have a problem with this cos there are numerous scriptures to back it up ! But He was also 100 % spirit.This made HIM the son of God here and not of Mary.Mary can not bre.as't feed a spirit !
See below words of our lord Jesus Christ while HE was handling spiritual matters as the son of God and not son of Mary :
''While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”
But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?”And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers!For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”
The holy spirit will do the convincing part later on in ur lives !
God help us

naijadeyhia: [b]
FYI i am not a protestant but a child of the one and only living God who sent His only begotten son Jesus to die for the likes of you, me and your immaculately concepted Mary... oh before i forget, Jesus also died for the Pope and for Peter. But alas he did not stay dead but rose again so that I can be forgiven and justified by his shed blood on the cross. And as many as received HIM to them gave he power to become the sons of GOD even unto them that believe in HIS name.

Now that I have received Christ and Believe in HIS finished work for me, HE has given me HIS HOLY SPIRIT to be a seal upon me unto the day of my LORD. This HOLY SPIRIT glorifies GOD in me, TEACHES and LEADS me into all truth, TAKES OF GOD and reveals to me, IS SHOWING me things that are yet to come, and now I am seated with CHRIST far above principalities and powers, above spiritual powers in high places because JESUS CHRIST declares that ALL POWER (AUTHORITY) IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH HAS BEEN GIVEN UNTO HIM and He has sent me into my world with the same authority and power given to him by His father. I AM NOW A JOINT HEIR WHILE HERE ON EARTH BECAUSE HE TOLD ME THAT I AM IN THE WORLD BUT NOT OF THE WORLD. Physically i live here but Spiritually I belong to another kingdom. THE KINGDOM OF THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH, THE REDEEMER OF ISRAEL, THE ONE WHO WAS AND WHO IS AND WHO IS TO COME. ALLELUIA!
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Don't allow anyone to make you sin against God or any one(Mary) Say ur truth with all meekness avoiding insulting words !

Mary needs forgiveness like every other BUT JESUS.She only found favour in God's eyes and nothing more.She was highly favored.The grace of God did everything for her just like that thief hung on the cross beside Jesus !
Enoch,Elijah,Moses and the rest also found same favor.Do you know that it could have been my Mum whom God would have favored to have our lord Jesus Christ ?So,if that has happened,you folks will be worshiping her by now ! -Let's leave this for some other time.
Stop the Mary worship becos she doesn't like it her self !She is a blessed and favored woman but does not deserve to be worshiped !She never redeemed mankind !She allowed God used her as a vessel nothing more !

God help us

All hail the queen of Delta State. Roll out the drums and the red carpet for the most anticipated heroic welcome. The first lady of Delta State in collaboration with other women rights group should set mobilization in motion.

Nothing spared, Beverly the outcast have put the ‘the big heart’ state on global map of igno.miny. She has just shattered Afrocandy’s infa.mous public se,x. record...

She is expected back to Nigeria with the coveted BBA prize money into the warm embrace of her cult like followers. Delta State government and rights groups must speak out now or remain in perpetual silence. No sitting on the fence as we await a press release either in commendation or condemnation of the fin,ge.ring session and se,x. ro.mp that took place in Big Bro,thel Africa. Our outcast must be officially recognized for exemplary misconduct in throwing her legs wide open for the South African perv.ert.

Berverly the out.c.ast, enjoy your stay in BBA. South African corporations are renowned for digging profitable holes in Nigeria’s business landscape. Give your pot of gold to the gold diggers. Like our ra.n.dy hip hop musicians would sing in their various message of se.x; ‘your waist all I want is your waist, shake up your bu.m bu.m, kpuheee jaheee, take ba.na.na till you go yooo.’ But don’t allow the blokes to impr.egn.ate you. We already have enough ba'sta.rds in Nigeria who enlarge the ranks of insurgents and militants.

If per chance you don’t emerge victorious, I will propose you for the audition of another forthcoming se.x' reality TV show. This time, not in the confines of a house but on the streets where wh.or,es of your type will widen their legs with per.ve.rts zooming in and out publicly. The longest lasting duo will win a million dollars. World renowned multinational companies are already queuing up for headline sponsorship.

Of a truth, these 28 vi,ri.le young mis.cre.ants locked up in a house of booze for ninety one days, idling and fidd.ling away will soon emerge as role models. In the face of excruciating poverty, unemployment and HIV/AIDS pandemic among African youths, we deem it expedient to promote casual unsafe se.x. on camera. Who am I to sit in judgment?

Beverly the outcast, go ahead. Receive the fi,ng.ering and ‘for.ke,ring’ including the blo.w jo.bs. The world is your oyster. Let all the feminist associations disband and remain dumb and deaf forever. You are highly recommended for a national honour of MFR, most fing,er.ing realist!

Go ahead and receive it. It’s a free world, it’s your life, and you were born that way. You are showcasing your God given talent. Our jurisprudence in Nigeria makes no provision for indecent exposure. Arise ye people and line up the streets for Beverly’s home return. We shall wave the Nigerian flag in sham and shame at the airport both at Lagos and Asaba.

You have accomplished great things. Delta no dey carry last!

By Uzor Ngoladi

Some times i laugh when people talk about the imperfection of the holy bible and error prone Paul becos he is human BUT believe firmly in the infallibility of the pope !
Pls let us leave this Catholicism talk alone until the holy spirit finihes HIS work on the members of the church !

God help us

Kaycee7: Are you implying Mary didn't breastfeed Jesus?

Mary the mother of Jesus bre.astfed Jesus and not God !

God help us

Kaycee7: So who is Mary?

Mother of Jesus !

God help us

Kaycee7: Did you say you're catholic?

What matters is bein a child of God !

God help us

italo: Why dont you answer the question and stop looking for a detour.

Who breastfed that "mighty God?"

You?

Jesus was the son of Mary-Remember 'HE came in the likeness of man'-No wonder the assertion that he was 100% man! This made Mary the mother of Jesus !
Jesus is the son of God-Most Christians do not have a problem with this cos there are numerous scriptures to back it up ! But He was also 100 % spirit.This made HIM the son of God here and not of Mary.Mary can not bre.as't feed a spirit !
See below words of our lord Jesus Christ while HE was handling spiritual matters as the son of God and not son of Mary :
''While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”
But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?”And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers!For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”

God help us

I think this issue is long over flogged ! The Roman Catholics know all that every one has been saying.But we all know that it is hard to let go of an ancient practice that you are well known with !This is where we need the holy spirit
to do the needful in our lives,convicting/convincing us !
Humanly speaking,all that contradict's the word of God should be dropped for the WORD,instead of saying that the bible is incomplete,there is no truth in it,it was written by men and the likes ! All we have got as Christians is the BIBLE via which we received the promise regarding the holly spirit and nothing more.Every other material including traditions/doctrines of men should be hinged on the word of God(bible)which if contradictory should be rendered invalid! The holy spirit convinced/convicted most of us here today and we left the age long contradictory practices/beliefs of the Roman Church for where we are today.So,we should also pray for our brothers and sisters who are still entangled in the strong hold of the Roman Catholic doctrines to be let loose in Jesus name... And not call them all sort of names. Do you know that there is no perfect church ?The church of God is matching towards perfection.Even the protestant churches most of which have left the faith(word of God)for the doctrines of men ! Same thing they accused the Roman Catholic church of doing.Do you know that some Roman Catholic church members will still make Heaven !Those who have a relationship with Jesus and believes in the undiluted word of God and not the doctrines and age long traditions of the RCC !
Do you know that some protestant/Pentecostal church members will still go to hell ! -Those who do not have a relationship with Christ !
We have two problems here :
:Foundational problem-Believing in the Church as against the word of God(Roman Catholics)
2.Personal problem-Personal decision to disobey God not becos of What the church believes(protestants/Pentecostal)
The solution to the above two problems is having a one on one experience with Christ via the word of God as stated in the Holy bible !

May God help every one of us

naijadeyhia: Did i say i was a hater? If salvation came to me through Mary then I wonder what Jesus Came to do. My friend, blasphemy is a sin against the Holy Spirit. Be careful!

Let us continue to correct people with love !
I once told a Muslim colleague of mine that if Christ isn't the only way to God then He is none of the ways ! She asked me why i said that & i told her that Christ said so ! That He is the only way ! That if He is not it means HE was a liar then can't even be none of the ways ! Thank God for HE can not lie !
Who came from heaven to earth ?
Who went to the cross ?
Who was buried and resurrected ?
Who ascended into heaven ?
The grace was thought by God,fought by satan,bought by Jesus and the grace eventually wrought it !

God help us all

heisenberg33: The bible is only a guide and i repeat does not contain all the truths you should know.

It is this same sheepish followership most of you protestants display in the way and manner you swallow hook,line and sinker everything your spurious and jet-loving General over seers say because you guys believe he has an exclusive right to God alone.

Take it easy friend ! This is Christianity,a relationship with Christ we are talking about ! The more we try to back up our errors the more errors we make !

God help us

bizmahn: The totality of the ungodly machinery working to circulate pollution through America & Europe to the whole world captured in one sentence above.I thought I was the only one seeing this.And people will spend hours behind the TV box watching American culture of shameless immoral abominations displayed in award winning high rated movies.No wonder our female folk here now though chaste at first are now aggrassively competeing for who will beat each other in woredom & daylight unclothedness.What of the men?Whaow!! I need not go further.

We still need to speak out even if we are just a handful !

May God help us

There is not one of us who is immuned from the possibilities of adultery !
2 Corinthians 10:12'' So, if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don't fall!''
Below are 7 Signs of an Emotional Relationship that will ultimately result in a intimate Explosion !

1.You have got a need you feel your spouse isn't meeting for attention,approval or affection & this other person(colleague,co-tenant or friend of the opposite sex)and this person begins to meet these needs.
2.You find it easier to unwind to someone other than your spouse,by dissecting the day's difficulties over lunch or on a ride home.
3.You begin to talk about problems you are having with your spouse with this other person
4.You rationalize this new relationship by saying that surely it MUST be God's will to talk so openly & honestly with a fellow Christian.You become defensive of the relationship and protected about it.
5.You look forward to bein with this person more than with your own spouse
6.You begin to wonder what would have become of you if you didn't have this person to talk with.
7.YOU HIDE THIS RELATIONSHIP FROM YOUR SPOUSE !

Marriage is an empty box but an opportunity for us to put something in it so it can do something for us !
There is no love in marriage but in people who bring this love into their marriage.
The reason for all extramarital affairs is unmet needs !

God help us

There is not one of us who is immuned from the possibilities of adultery !
2 Corinthians 10:12'' So, if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don't fall!''
Below are 7 Signs of an Emotional Relationship that will ultimately result in a Sexual Explosion !

1.You have got a need you feel your spouse isn't meeting for attention,approval or affection & this other person(colleague,co-tenant or friend of the opposite sex)and this person begins to meet these needs.
2.You find it easier to unwind to someone other than your spouse,by dissecting the day's difficulties over lunch or on a ride home.
3.You begin to talk about problems you are having with your spouse with this other person
4.You rationalize this new relationship by saying that surely it MUST be God's will to talk so openly & honestly with a fellow Christian.You become defensive of the relationship and protected about it.
5.You look forward to bein with this person more than with your own spouse
6.You begin to wonder what would have become of you if you didn't have this person to talk with.
7.YOU HIDE THIS RELATIONSHIP FROM YOUR SPOUSE !

Marriage is an empty box but an opportunity for us to put something in it so it can do something for us !
There is no love in marriage but in people who bring this love into their marriage.
The reason for all extramarital affairs is unmet needs !

God help us

Omen100: TAKE NOTE, YOU CAN PAY FOR SCHOOL BUT CAN'T BUY CLASS, [b]PRESIDENT JONATHAN IS A CLASSLESS RETARD, L.O.S.E.R.[/b]

Don't worry,God will CLASSIFY him ! Who HE calls HE equips !

The doesn't mean i'm in support of bad government ooo !

Hehehehehehe

God help us all

Briareos: You seem to be quite conversant with the happenings in the Big Brother House. Could it be that the Holy Spirit revealed the happenings to you while you were watching TBN on DSTv?

The best sarcastic post for me ever since i joined NL !
I don't watch Big brother.But to say i have not stumbled on it while flipping through the channels or have not heard or read about the show,that will be a lie ! I once saw it in a friend house and it wasn't even up to 10 Mins.

May God help us

birdman: So what about marriages before christianity. I wanted to laugh at this post until I realized you were serious.

No marriage ever took place before the one between Adam and Eve ! Are you in support of this before we go ahead ?

God help us

kmanning: hmm

Yes but true talk ! For sure most people will not agree with me on this but it does not matter. What matters is it will definitely help 'some'to have a re-think !

God help us

The issue of marriage and believers can only make sense to people who believe the biblical story of creation.

God help us

okpara ugo: [size=45]tell me more[/size]

When God said in Genesis 2:18''The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a companion for him who corresponds to him." Please who was HE (God) talking about ? HIS son or that of the devil ?

God help us

It baffles me how people who supported some one by obtaining a form for her,nominating her and eventually voted her into a particular position will later turn around to oppose this same person for 'living up to her game' ! All participants of the BBA Chase were briefed of the rules of the game.Most of all who watch the show know the expectations of the organizers.

I put it to every one out there who watch and relish the event in the house(BBA)to stop criticizing Beverly because you encouraged her into the house,you are the ones keeping her there and will most likely be the ones to help her clinch the price money.
WHY THE RAGE NOW ? When it was reported that a group of lawyers in Addis Ababa Ethiopia were making plans to sue Betty Abera(BBA house mate) for having s,e,x in public which could earn her a possible 6 years jail term,most of you cried foul! But it's different now because it has happened to one of your own right ?
Not trying to be holier than thou;morally speaking,what is there to learn from BBA ?
Alcohol,obscene language,n.u.dity,sex,hatred & false love(lust)are the stock in trade of the show !
The organizers know it too well that if they bring in a celebrity like pokelo to take her bath and wash her undies in the open,viewers will ask for more !-They achieved their aim on you the outstationed ''Beverlies'' !
The organizers know that if they keep alcohol in the midst of Beverly & that Rasta man,there is bound to be sex,- Their aim was again achieved on these house mates !See below a quote of an insider:
''While nominations, tasks and diary sessions take place, what keeps the housemates going is the alcohol. It is like their oxygen. And Big Brother seems to provide it in plenty.''
Which parent on this forum will like to see her girl child drunk,go n,u.d,e publicly,'fin.gere.d'in his very eyes,slept with in public and given STD(Chlamydia)? IF YOU ARE THAT PARENT,PLS IGNORE MY ADVICE AND CONTINUE TO WATCH BBA !
I 'love' gay people but will not give them a path on the back for continuing gay practices. For ''Christians''out there,if you enjoy watching big brother,i would advise you visit any p.o.rn. movie store near you and with just 1k you will get a hand full of pornographi.c movies to 'enjoy' until the holy spirit start's to convict/convince you as HE did and still doing FOR me that dissuaded me from watching BBA inspite of the desire/push i some times have !
I am not a saint but with the help of the holy spirit i try to fight my weaknesses to resist the devil so he can flee from me!

God help us all