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Mr Aboki: To all the christians here;

Remember what the bible says;

1. Judge not so ye be not judged..

2. Love your neighbor as you love yourself.

Love ur neighbor is not a synonym of 'not telling the truth' ! Christianity is not stupidity !

God help us

Chillisauce: See most of them shouting never never never, who are those that molest goats, cows, chicken and dogs.

Check very well, most of them shouting fire and brimstone are the ones that does wonders closed doors.


Pretenders!


Give them 2k sef they will sleep with rabbit sef!

Self righteous idi0ts!

It is easier for a gay person to have s,e.x, with the above highlighted than for the straight guy to do so ! Any one who does that might not be reasoning well at that time and should not be supported by attending his union with a goat,dog,fowl etc like you want to support the and attend gay union !

God help us

ifeness: Then so be it! What good has the human race brought to the planet? If not total destruction,killing innocent[b] animals,cutting down trees, tapping the earths natural resources[/b].......the human race is a pain!

The highlighted above were given to man for his (man)consumption !

Think ifessnes !

God help us

dyrane: Why not.. If i don't attend it'll look as if i'm wishing them bad

No,attending means you are in support of the destruction of their soul !

God help us

pc guru: Religion is individual unlike Marriage take me for instance i come from a multi-religion home with my mother being a strong christain and my relatives muslims ,my grandfather chrismuslim and me agnostic, each of us could care less about the other,s religions, besides satanism is knowing for bloodshed,rituals and things that are inhumane so my support can never be given just the same way that christainity and islam justifies taking a live away, so my support will never be given too. If any relgion doesn,t permit taking a live then i give my full support.

You don't understand that isn't marriage(man-man or woman -woman) in the first place !
If you are a Christian,you will understand that there are provisions for 'unbelievers marriage' !(opposite sex)Mariage you ventured into while you were both unbelievers or if you mistakenly marry an unbeliever. That scripture specifically admonished us regarding the marriage between a believer and an unbeliever(opposite sex) and what we should do but warned us as believers not to venture into such marriage(Do not be un-equally yoked)
Gay union is an outright or flagrant flouting of the word of God and there is no provision what so ever for consideration! IF GOD SAYS IT IS A SIN,THEN IT IS A SIN NOT MINDING THE INTERPRETATION GIVEN TO IT BY MAN !
My closing words are these: If i have a gay son(God forbid)will i chase him out of the house becos he is gay ? Capital NO.I will always do things to show him how i care and love him with the love of God and not to do things that SUPPORTS his 'madness'or 'abnormality'! When our kids misbehave at home we don't say becos we love them and not correct,advise or chastise them,that will be hatred of the highest ranking,but we show love by spanking them if necessary! Proverb 3:12''For the LORD corrects those he loves, just as a father corrects a child in whom he delights.'' and Hebrew 12:6''For the LORD disciplines those he loves, and he punishes each one he accepts as his child."
Religion is individual like you said but Christianity which is a relationship with Christ teaches us to have compassion on people(even our loved ones)and bring them to the knowledge of Christ becos we will be asked when we appear before the judgement seat !
God help us all

To attend a gay brother's union shows that i hate him so much ! This is no love at all !
Attending means i'm in support becos in some cases i will be presented with the 'union register' to sign as a witness !
I think attending means 'aiding and abetting' ! I can only attend such gathering if i'm going there to disrupt the ceremony ! God forbid i try to please a brother and displease my God !

God help us

Can you attend the church of satan with your brother to show your love for him ?

God help us

Syncan: You talk a lot, but hardly listen. Zacheus you said sought for Jesus and found Him. Allow gay people who seek for Jesus to find Him. Then what He did to Zacheus will be done to them.

Let the publican come into the synagogue you pharisee!

No body is stopping the publicans from coming into the synagogue but when they come in,we shall surely tell them the truth and not condone their negative practices in the name of not wanting to be judgmental ! Let us say the truth at all times even if it will lead to our bein persecuted for the sake of the WORD(Christ)!

God bless us

samtek: It is quite unfortunate that u re doing what u said u have not come here to do (condemn)
Pope Francis said:
"If one is gay and understand that his/her situation
is UNNATURAL and ά SICKNESS, people understands,
tolerates and maybe even help. But, for the lobbying
for unwholesome acceptance, campaigning that all is
well and good, they irritate people of sound mind".
Does this not condemn the act of gay? He started by speaking to those how re not gay... Telling ά father who has ά gay son/daughter now to disown him/her but love him/her, teach him/her that gay is ά sin, pray for them, help them see the need to visit ά Psychologist/Psychiatrist

Please see below the case of Radwanska the tennis player who featured n,u.d,e. for ESPN body shoot 2013 and what the catholic church has to say about her as a roman Catholic in one of the parishes in poland:

"It's a shame that someone who has declared their love for Jesus is now promoting the mentality of men looking at a woman as a thing rather than a child of God worthy of respect and love," senior Catholic priest Father Marek Dziewiecki told Polish media.
Unsurprisingly, the Catholic Church was not too thrilled about her actions. Radwanska, 24, had been working with Krucjata Mlodych, a Polish Catholic "Youth Crusade," as an ambassador for the group encouraging youths and her fans alike to join catholicism. After her photo shoot for ESPN Body Issue 2013, however, that relationship has now dissolved.
Now my question is,why didn't the church leave her there as their 'youth Crusade group' ambassador since it is very evident that she has 'declared for Jesus' and the church and also win more faithfuls for the church ? If i'm to go by the words of the pope,Radwanska was marginalized and condemned in this sense. But Capital NO ! Becos erring members should be disciplined !
Custodians of the word of God,don't water the word for more membership or more Benjamins ! Say the truth always and leave God to judge. There is nothing like gay Christian as in accepting the practice and accepting Christ. But we can have a 'gay christian'as in one with the tendencies or urges who struggles with it and want's to come out of it just like some of us struggling Christians who still fall into the sin of adultery,fornication,ma.st.ur,ba.ti.on,greed,covetousness,drunkenness and the likes.If any 'man of God like the pope'wishes sinners well,he should condemn our negative urges not condemn us but should not make us feel as if these negatives are positives in the sight of God.Any one who do this,contradicts the scripture and will be likened as an agent of the devil.
My catholic friends,i know that the papacy is infallible, the pope can never be wrong but let us study the word to see how Christ loved sinners. A closing example was the adulterous woman who Jesus did not judge and condemned rather had compassion on but left her with a closing word;''GO HOME AND SIN NO MORE'' Jesus corrected her by letting her know that she should not continue in adultery. Pls pope francis,i am GAY tell me it's against the word of God but God loves me but doesn't want me to continue in such practices.
God bless us all

ALL THE ATHEIST GO SHOW HERE FOR THIS THREAD BECOS THIS ONE NA THEM OWN !
I ADVISE ALL BRIDES OF CHRIST TO DESIST FROM COMMENTING ON THIS TREAD BUT TO GO INTO THEIR CLOSET AND PRAY FOR THEM !

God will help them soon becos HE is a compassionate God !

God help us

Syncan: Very good.From your post:

1. Zacheus desired to see christ...

The pope says, gay people who seek the lord...

2. Jesus visited zacheus house...

Pope says he will not judge such people...

3. Christ led zacheus to full repentance ...

Pope wants Christ to do same again...

Note that christ did not lead zacheus to full repentance from a distance via discrimination.

Why discriminate against any one ?
Is telling the truth now discrimination? Why not correct wrong doers ? Christ encouraged us his apostles to lead people to God through HIM by showing them love,not condemning them but correcting them when they err and not letting them alone in the name of not sounding or appearing to be judgmental !
Zacheus sought God,found HIM and changed. But not to say 'so long as i'm seeking the lord and engaged in good deeds it is okay to be gay and can't be judged by any one ' That's the common interpretation of the pope's statement !
Who are my to Judge means a thieve can not be corrected,advised or shown the truth right ?
Joel Oesteen an american televangelist was one time asked by Oprah Winfrey if gays will go to heaven and he said he doesn't know,that it is up to God to decide ! He was heavily criticized and his was even mild ! Even gays said 'show us the stand of God on the issue and not to claim ignorance or encourage us by the use of subtlety in words to support our negative practices'.I think as a custodian of God's word,we should lead people to God and also show them what the WORD says and these we should do with love like a dad who correct's his erring child at home.Unless we do not believe D WORD!
Please note that when you deny gay people from bein priests and been joined as gay couple in RCC simply means you are marginalizing them and not wanting to integrate them into the society going by the pope's statement !
God knows i'm not out here also to condemn the pope for his comment but to also join others in analyzing the implication of his comments using the WORD as a basis ! I pray the 'church' comes out tomorrow to rephrase this statement bringing it in right standing with God not minding what men thinks !

God help us

Syncan: Pls don't mix up issues, Adulterous individuals live with us in the society, how marginalised do they feel? Yet the church refuse them divorce or polygamy? Jesus allowed sinners close to him never meant he encouraged their sinful acts, he however knew that coming close to him grants them the grace they need to turn a new leaf. At what point did zacheous turn a new leaf, before or after Jesus good gesture to him? Let's learn from the master please.

Jesus died for us all while we were yet sinners and not after we repented but he never encouraged any man to continue in his sinful act. Thanks for telling us something about the adulterous woman. Christ forgave her and asked her to go and sin no more. And did not tell her that so long as she has accepted HIM(CHRIST)and continue to do good will,that it is okay to continue to be adulterous ! He asked her to 'GO HOME AND SIN NO MORE' ! You also said something about Zacheus,apart from the fact that Christ died for all sinners,Zacheus himself desired ALSO to be with Christ(Climbing atop a tree to get a glimpse) no wonder he was also recognized by Christ. Christ showed him much more love becos even as a sinner that he is,he desired a change of heart ! Christ wouldn't also had been happy if he had continued in his 'sinful' practices havin been shown much love. The love exhibited by Christ led Zacheus to full repentance ! Have you wondered why Christ said to Just one of the two thieves with him on the cross that he will be with him in paradise that same night ? One desired change but the other refused.
Let us pls bring every one to the knowledge of Christ for them to encounter change and that is not to play down of the words of God !
God help us

carr101: The way Nigerians go on and on about gay people and sodom and gomorrah,one would think they were all there when God decided to destroy sodom and gomorrah, was it every man,woman and child that was gay?? God destroyed the earth too during the time of Noah for other sins so you people should stop been hypocrites! salvation and heaven is a personal race, I only know there is one hell fire for every sin so runn your own race!won't it be shameful to be in the same hell you've told gay people they are goin to?

1 Corinthians 6:9-11''Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.''
Any one who belongs to the category highlighted above will not make it according to the word of God ! I think this is what we all including the pope should be reminding or telling ourselves each day !

God help us

chizel: Am bis appointed at the popes trance on the gay issue eventhough am a staunch catholic and will always be

You are been truthful to urself first .... God will help u to continue in this light !

God help us all

ssiaccenture: Religious leaders should act as checks and balances to the political leaders policies and actions. Religious leaders can act in 3 ways to react to the action or policy of the political leaders 1. condemn or approve their policy by words of month 2. deny or support it by demonstrating with their bodily actions and 3. disapprove or embrace it in the minds that is do not involve in it practice. To me the pope should have kept his mute rather than going forward and backward that depict either support or against

It is better to keep quiet than speak in a way perceived to be against God to favor man !

God help us

papajoka: U re too engrossed with conspiracy theory that u fail to recognise the truth when u see one.
*If no one of u is without sin let him be the first to cast a stone*
if u can differenciate btw a SIN and a SINNER
then u will understand how nt to judge the pope or even a gay person
u will knw more when u consult the Cathechism of the catholic church

God does not like sin no doubt and does not condemn sinners no doubt either. But my question is; does God allow us to continue in sin becos he does not condemn sinners ? If you say yes,then you have to go through the below scripture:
''I correct and discipline everyone I love.So be earnest and repent''.-Revelation 3:19
''For the LORD disciplines those he loves, and he punishes each one he accepts as his child''."-Hebrews 12:6
To correct or tell your children that 'you are wrong you know''does not mean you are judging them bro !
The pope should learn to be explicit when dealing with sensitive issues. If you must be diplomatic,use the diplomacy that will favor God,may be anger the people not the other way round,after all one with God is majority. But when you don't want to loose members,you speak like the pope ! But God may not be happy with you.
I love gay people,i don't hate them but i must tell us all adulterers,fornicators,liars,greedy,drunks,murderers including the homosexuals that if they don't repent that the word of God said we will not inherit the kingdom of God ! -1 Corinthians 6:9-11''Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.''

God help us

elampiro: Elsewhere some people are blaming the media. But why does Pope Francis keep using words that can be twisted so terribly?? Is he incompetent?

Pope Benedict XVI, signed a document in 2005 that said men with homosexual tendencies should not be priests. Why is Pope Francis being controversial in his speech?

In Pope John Paul II twenty five years reign I didn't hear of any controversial statements. He even closed a whole seminary because of sexual issues and pornographic materials. I really can't understand what moral message Pope Francis is trying to pass by not directly teaching that Sodomy is evil. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorah don't forget.

Not allowing gays to be priest going by the document signed by pope Benedict in 2005 will be marginalizing gay people going by the statement of pope Francis ! Integrating gay people into the society will also mean allowing them to be priests and also conducting gay weddings in the roman catholic churches. Any attempt to deny them of these rights(priesthood and weddings in the roman catholic churches) will mean they are been marginalised.

God help us

Chukskalidon: Diplomatic enough to to present an apparent view of the church's stand towards the act of Gay: In as much as we oppose and give zero tolerance to the act...we should also be aware that God loves them and shouldn't judge especially when they come to seek the face of the Lord.

When you correct your children,advise them and some times discipline them at home wen they do wrong,does that mean that you are judging them ?
Leave the stand of the Roman church out of this and hold on to the word of God which is what any christian should do. Tell us the truth always with love ! Tell us all openly that God frowns at it(Homoxesualism) but (HE GOD) loves them and want's them to change!
Do you know that to not correct the people you claim you are leading when they go wrong is hatred to them ?
God help us

peppy luv: ALL YOU CATHOLIC HATERS WILL DIE AN UNTIMELY DEATH!
OP U WILL SUFFER UNLESS U ASK GOD FOR FORGIVENESS CUZ U LIED AND TWISTED THE STATEMENT BY HIS HOLINESS!!
HE SAID "WHO AM I TO JUDGE A REPENTANT HOMOSEXUAL" Note D word "REPENTANT"
Just heard this now in the news.
Witches and wizards(protestants and Islam) ur hate will never stop us and we can never be one like u devils,molesters and murderers!!

Why will any one judge a repentant homosexual ? Even an unrepentant person can not judge a repentant person !
The pope wasn't talking about a repentant homosexual but a homosexual who engages in good will is seen as been right with God according to the statement of the pope ! The Roman church sees good will/deeds as what takes one to heaven,that is to say that i can go against God but so long as i do good to man kind then

mascot87: I am very sure most nairalanders would misinterpret what the pope is trying to insinuate cos of lack of wisdom understanding his simple statement.Already I am seeing some bigoted illiterates making statements that makes me wonder why some ignoramus bigocony continue to reason with there nose rather than calming down, digest and think deeply on what the Pope is trying to say using there brains.
Most people would make silly statements just because they don't believe in the ideology of the Catholic church.Most people are hardcore Religiolistic and tribalistic in nature.

Please dont' insult people yet. There are ways to pass a message to please God not minding what the crowed or world is saying !
I love my child and that is why i advise,correct and some times discipline him when ever he errs. I do it out of love for who God loves HE chastises.Hebrew 12:6''F[b]or the LORD disciplines those he loves, and he punishes each one he accepts as his child."[/b] To let your gay children alone without correction is hatred of the highest ranking ! Ofcourse,who are we to judge ! But to correct does not in any way mean passing judgement.
Please see below the case of Radwanska the tennis player who featured nude for ESPN body shoot 2013 and what the catholic church has to say about her as a roman Catholic in one of the parishes in poland:

"It's a shame that someone who has declared their love for Jesus is now promoting the mentality of men looking at a woman as a thing rather than a child of God worthy of respect and love," senior Catholic priest Father Marek Dziewiecki told Polish media.
Unsurprisingly, the Catholic Church was not too thrilled about her actions. Radwanska, 24, had been working with Krucjata Mlodych, a Polish Catholic "Youth Crusade," as an ambassador for the group. After her photo shoot for ESPN, however, that relationship has now dissolved.
Now my question is,why didn't the church leave her there as their youth Crusade group ambassador since it is very evident that she has 'declared for Jesus' and the church ? If i'm to go by the words of the pope,Radwanska was marginalized in this sense !
Pls custodians of the word of God,don't water the word for more membership or more Benjamins ! Say the truth always and leave God to judge. There is nothing like gay Christian as in accepting the practice and accepting Christ. But we can have a 'gay christian'as in one with the tendencies or urges who struggles with it and want's to come out of it just like some of us struggling Christians who still fall into the sin of adultery,fornication,masturbation,greed,covetousness,drunkenness and the likes.If any 'man of God like the pope'wishes sinners well,he should condemn our negative urges not condemn us but should not make us feel as if these neagatives are positives in the sight of God.Any one who do this,contradicts the scripture and will be likened as an agent of the devil.
My catholic friends,i know that the papacy is infallible, the pope can never be wrong but let us study the word to see how Christ loved sinners. A closing example was the adulterous woman who Jesus did not judge and condemned rather had compassion on but left her with a closing word;''GO HOME AND SIN NO MORE'' Jesus corrected her by letting her know that she should not continue in adultery. Pls pope francis,i am GAY tell me it's against the word of God but God loves me but doesn't want me to continue in such practices.
God bless us all

EBK2: @Benalvino
You have to look at a number scriptural refernces before you can understand these thing (not just one chapter or verse)especially when docrinal issues are concerned. Bible explains Bible.

There are Tongues are one of the 9 Gifts of the Holy Ghost. These gifts, as against Fruits of the Holy Spirit, although given, manifest every when needed.

Gift of Tongues are three:
1. Tongues unto unbelievers - as a sign to unbelievers -Act 2. Unbelievers hearing the disciples speaking their (unbelievers) own language
2. Tongue unto believers 1 Cor 12 encouraged by Paul to be spoken and interpreted when believers meet so everyone will benefit. pretty much same as Prophecy (only that Prophecy doesnt need interpretation).
3. Tongue unto God - 1 cor 14. happens when you utter mysteries. no human, demon, devils or angel understands it. Only understood by the Master Himself. We are enjoined in the Bible to speak this only when we are alone with God. No point others hearing from you what they can not understand. this is a matter of orderliness and doesnt mean you sin or God will not hear you when you speak it.

Just to let you know, these are mere divine privileges given to believers just because Jesus died and rose again. If you dont belive it, you will never have it. Much like salvation, if you dont believe it, you will not have it. Also, much like salvation, you will never have it if you want to earn it. It is what it is - a gift.
Finally, although these things are all in the bible, the Holy Spirit will never reveal it to you if you just want to win an arguement or use it as a tool to put other Christians down. There is one thing i recently realised about the Holy Ghost, He frowns at any Christian (yes God can frown at you although you are His)that puts another Christian down or makes another Christian feel worthless or unworthy etc. Why because He paid a great price.
My prayer is that He will give us the Grace to spend time with His Spirit so we can know Him. The Word of God is a eternal treasure that we can know by spending a lot of time enquiring in His presence, rather that on the pages of newspaper or TV or even NL. The best teacher and revealer is the Holy Spirit. Unfortunately, much of the Church dont know this Person and to some, He is a stranger or some misty stuff floating around. If you allow Him, He will will stand next to you you as well as fill your inner man as read the Scripture.
God bless you.

The words above touched me and i will say you are blessed. I care to be your friend but don't know if you will want to be my friend !
God help us

benalvino: When will you guys stop wrestling with the scriptures? In one bible verse you manage to bring out 3 types of tongues in one context?... Thank you hulkhogan keep wrestling with the scriptures

Speaking in tongues was not mentioned in Just one bible verse.And i think you have been shown more than enough verses in the bible on the issue of speaking in tongues ! Please do not mistake speaking in tongues for Yoruba language,it may be included if you care !
Take very seriously what EBK2 has said for they are scriptural and are very clear and open for those who want to learn and not those who want to argue. If you continue to argue this,you will never see it and will never pray in the 'holy ghost'
God help us

EBK2: @ Benalvino,
There are three types of Tongues recorded in the Bible:
1. Tongues unto God (mysteries). No one, including the speaker understands it. If anyone understands them, they will no longer be mysteries.
2. Tongues unto the unbeliever (in their language) - God will only give this where it is needed as a witness to his power and grace.
3. Tongues unto believers - just like prophecy, this one has to be interpreted and has to benefit/edify the believers.

I have always been confused by this until i listened to a teaching and dug deep into the Scriptures. I will encourage you to do the same by having a deeper fellowship with the Holy Spirit.

If you are really want to know these things, spend a bit of time with the Holy Ghost and ask Him to teach you the Truth. He will reveal it to you from the Bible or send teachers across to you. Having head knowledge of the scripture is not even enough. You dont give this type of advice carelessly because the depth of relationship people have with God to a large extent is influenced by the church they attend. So coming to NL to ask people to leave a certain church does show a lot of humilty. There are some advice you dont give to anyone unless God has given you a spiritual authority over them. I believe church to attend or not to attend is one of them. God bless you!

Now,this is a christian ! We know one by the fruit of the spirit they exhibit ! I pray that the indwelling of the spirit will be so full in you that men will see and marvel and give glory to the Almighty God !
May God help us

benalvino: If you dont know that the bible talks about fornication... Then there is a lot you dont know

Was i talking about the bible talking about fornication or Jesus talking about fornication ? Go through my write up again and address me properly (like a brother)

God help us

nokingasgod: Dem no go hear, oversabi don dabaru dem senses so tayyyyyy dem dey fellowship unconsciously wit Lucifer dem no know.

To say yarning in tongues dey dat important to mankind Oga Jesus for mention am, himsef for yarn am die,abi him forget?

You people just dey say oga Jesus,oga Jesus for tell us dis for tell us dat if to say e dey important. Now make i ask you,oga Jesus tell you about fornication ? E be like say fornication no really matter na him make oga Jesus no talk about am. Oga Jesus tell you about gay ? May be him want make men dey touchlight men like them and women also dey tochlight women like dem na him make am no talk about am abi ?
Abeg hear dis one,oga Jesus say him one go heaven so dat d father go send d holy spirit for him name w..Jesus. AND WEN THE HOLY SPIRIT COME,HIM GO TEACH US ALL THINGS ! See wetin bible talk for under:
''But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.''-John 14:26
From d bible wey we don look above,you know see am there say the holy spirit go teach every thing,even the one wey Jesus never tell you and him go remind you of Jesus own pka-pka ! Na the holy spirit wey come land on top of the disciples head like say HIM be fire na him manifest that speaking in tongues for the mouth of the apostles. See also below wetin Jesus tell them him disciples before him waka:
''On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: “Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about.For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.”Acts 1:4-5
From dat one above,we don see the gift wey Christ promise dem him disciples(holy spirit)That Holy spirit come come again with HIM own gift wey be speaking in tongues.!
See the koko now,as you say the gift of the holy spirit na to speak hausA,IGBO,YORUBA,NUPE,IGALA ETC ETC ETC,i myself don dey speak all these languages,dey even learn ,Tagalog(Philippines) and chinease language before i carry my life go gif Jesus. so as i sabi all that language wey i no even know Jesus,na the holy spirit teach me that one ? The holy spirit fit gif a born again Christian all other foreign languages but the heavenly tongue na for special and exclusively for HIM children ! Any attempt for persin wey no get the holy spirit to speak wether refined or un refined na WASH !
Any man wey no get dis holy spirit fully inside of am no go fit speak in tongue NO MATTER HOW YOU TRY TO SAY;kokokoko-kakakaka-kikikiki-kukukuku ! But if you don born again & u never get am,abeg make u beg God for am u go get am ! All the people wey dey here dey criticise dat original talking in tongues no know about am and dem no get am at all. dem fit get d holy spirit o,if e be say dem born again but dem no dey filled with dat holy spirit and e go hard well well to speak in genuine tongue ! No be the copi copi one o ! but abeg make una easy dey talk about this holy spirit make una no go vex am o. If him vex,HIM no go come near you again.This one na him be the unforgivable sin wey christ dey talk about.
God go do am for us all

My Advice to 'Christians' is that you all should guard your heart diligently for if you don't,you will be so empty that when the lord comes it will be difficult for you to be associated with HIM !
The only way you can tell if you are a son/daughter of God is only when you are led by the spirit ! To have the spirit in you is one thing,to be filled with the spirit is another and to continue in the spirit is the final until Jesus come !
All who are born again have got the spirit in them and one of the numerous ways to know the one so filled with the holy spirit is to speak in an unknown tongue that is made manifest by the holy spirit himself !
bonalvino should know where he belongs !
Speaking in unknown tongue does not take anyone to heaven ! After all ''For God's gifts and his call can never be withdrawn''!Romans 11:29
God help us

benalvino: That is exactly what I did. Speaking in tongues mean speaking in Japanese French igbo Yoruba... If you do not understand it... It is unknown to you.

When people pray In tongues kikikikakakasantaya kimokolobangara is gibberish man... Even Jesus did not pray like this.

Paul states that if you speak unknown tongue you did not share your understanding with the church but to only you and God..

because if the people can't understand you... You are talking to your self. God understand everything so you are talking to God as well. You should learn to take bible verse in context. He says if you must speak in an unknown tongue someone should interprete it. Simple.

Notice he is not talking about prayers but ministering to people...

When people fail to comprehend a thing and thus can not comply,they try to re-interpret the scripture to suit their 'believe'or understanding ! Speaking in tongues is one of the numerous gifts of the holy spirit ! If you don't understand it,you can't desire it !
God help us

drnoel: even the police got it wrong. I suspected it would be either an octopus or a squird immediately i heard the story.

It's sure a calamari !

God help us

sunnyolads1: There is no need of any evidence again in respect of the Rivers state palaver.it is now clearly show that Gej is behind it. If Chidi Lloyd can be invited for interrogation,what of Bipi and others that brought thugs to the house to carry out the illegal impeachment of the Speaker. Chidi Lloyd is not the one that start the fight,he only rose to defend himself and others.Gej is the one controlling the Police that's why IG is unable to redeploy the Commissioner Mbu despite all the calls by well meaning Nigerians to do so. But my question is for how long are we going to fold our arms and be looking at this wicked dictator called Gej to be doing whatever he likes in this Country? But help me to inform them, Gej,Rca,Mbu,IG,Bipi,Chidi,Chinda etc they can't be there forever o!

I thought they said GEJ is weak ! He automatically turned a wicked dictator over night !

God pass every one of them and their policies !

God help us all

Ola Johnson: It's obvious you don't know what logic is. You don't know what causality is, either. If you're looking at "cause", you look at both the remote and immediate causes. Yes, Chidi Lloyd may have been hard on the said legislator, but what brought about the fracas? What brought the fracas which was the attempt of 5 members claiming to be 2/3 of the 32 member of the RSHA to impeach the Speaker was the remote cause.. The remote cause then gave birth to the immediate cause which saw Chidi Lloyd use the fake mace on a member. Also, Evans Bipi who led the 5 legislators claimed before the cameras that he blew, kicked, slapped and punched a member. How come nothing is being said about him? Is his action not an immediate cause just as that of Chidi Lloyd? There can never be an immediate cause without a remote cause. Please, start reasoning.

No wonder Jesus said;''if you are slapped on one side of the cheek,pls do turn the other side for a second slap !''

God help us all

[quote author=Lord_Reed]Listen the title of this thread is not "marriage was designed for believers" it is "Marriage Is Meant For Believers Only" which is present tense as in NOW. We all agree that God's plan for man crashed becuase of disobedience but you and others are saying the things God gave to mankind are not for mankind if they are not saved which is a contradiction in itself as those gifts are evidently with mankind NOW.

To reiterate if you are saying "marriage was designed for believers" I agree in totality but if you are saying "Marriage Is Meant For Believers Only" then I believe you are denying the very evidence before you.

Also these things will not count at the judgement: who and if you married, how many children you had, what type of food you ate, how many lands, houses cars and so on you had, how many places you visited in the world. All these things God has freely given to all of mankind but do not add or subtract from salvation.[/quote]Thank you so very much Lord_reed for the correction ! I started this thread but i can admit/agree in totality that the thread should have been titled; 'marriage was designed for believers[/b]and not the controversial '[b]marriage is meant for believers only ! Thank God there is some one(persons) who understands what i have been trying to explain. And i also want to believe that 'flesh and blood'did not reveal it to you but the holy spirit did reveal to you what i meant or was meant to buttress !& HE(Holy spirit) helped me to see reasons with your correction as regards the title of the tread not minding what or how anyone feels here !
Thank u lord_reel and may [b]THE GOOD LORD[/b]bless you !
God bless us all

[quote author=m.k.o2005]I sure believe that if TB is fake,time will tell because God will expose him. But if he is for real,God will also forgive us for raining insults on him.

God help us[/quote]I sure believe that if TB is fake,time will tell because God will expose him. But if he is for real,God will also forgive us for raining insults on him.
God help us