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amor4ce: Christianity is a lie from Lucifer and was/has/will never be from the Scriptures.

Sea reasoning ! You believe in Lucifer and you do not believe in God ! Christians follow christ (God) UR QUESTION SHOULD BE; do they do it the right way ?
Open ur mind to the good and only way to life -JESUS CHRIST THE SOON COMING KING !

Horus: If you get to the prisons, Christians and Moslems are always there but you can hardly see an idol worshiper being imprisoned.

How many of them do you have around or how many do you know ?The fetish/devilish traditionalist are not known.For me i dnt see them at all ! Besides some of the people you think are Christians are just church goers not CHRISTIANS my friend.
Watch out for true Christians you dnt see them in prisons even if they are there,it could be that they were wrongly accused or they have gone there to preach the HOLY IMPORTED BIBLE as you guys call it !
Don't be like the FOOLS who have said there is no God !

Ptolomeus: You are a person who deserves all my respect.
Not everyone should think the same way ... that is what diversity.
Exisen cultural issues that have little to do with the identity of the people, and that should be respected.
Freedom of worship is provided in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
The blind religious fanaticism.
Your attitude is honest, fair, and respectful.
Thank you.
My respects!

Hey ! I put it to you that you will do a good work for the Almighty God.This is becos the course you are trying to push now is a useless and will for sure be a futile one.It's not a prayer but a statement of fact.Try to take us forward and not backward.
If you try to run away from the good work of preaching the good news,(the holy IMPORTED bible)u will still accept it any how ! Though HE has given us a liberal mind and also to choose FREELY what so ever we want.But becos of HE is God,we can't question his authority.But even if you do question HIM,HE is a merciful God. Try it with ur FETISH DEVILISH traditional gods,u will have or self to blame if u will be alive to tell the story.
Don't be like the FOOLS who have said there is no God ! Shalom

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]yes they used it for the betterment of the society after damaging the original stable society), but at WHAT COST? at the sufferrings of other peoples around the world! we Africans must not go the same evil path as theirs neither will we go. we have to much self-respect for that, i am sure. .




The progress of a Pagan religion depends on the encouragement of its people along with the development of the aforesaid people's society. look at how advanced Hinduism today is. they have compiled so many treatises, epics, medicine, scientific knowledge etc., based on their religion. today, in India and China, traditional medicine is taken very seriously, with docatorates, degrees, etc., handed out.
in the past, it was Ancient Gyptian Religon, Mayan Religion and reco-Roman religion that were the forerunners.

coming back to Nigerian religions, you will notice how developed Ifa Orisha/ Beninese Vodun religion of the Yorubas is, when compared to Odinani of the Igbo and my very own Hausa religion. this is because Yoruba religion has a wider following and adherence not only in Nigeria but elsewhere and especially even in neigbouring Benin & Togo (53%).[/quote]No biblical quotation can save anyone one of you if God HIMSELF(Almighty God)does not come into the matter proper using HIS spirit(HOLY SPIRIT) You guys reiterate that Christianity is imported religion.That's very very true that we need not to be told or reminded cos we know. There are good imports and there are toxins that people also import into the country.
But i tell you that the best thing that ever happened to man the creation of the Almighty God is to bring back to us that which the devil stole from mankind right in the garden of EDEN.And now some ignorant and prodigal children of the Almighty God said we should throw it away or put it side by side with the devilish practice of our ignorant fathers.
How come you want us to discard Christianity which you said is foreign and you still want to wear the clothes and also use the mirrors and combs given to you by the foreigners just to say the very very least ?You can go pick up ur raffia attires and use dem for cover !
Now listen,for those of you who were once Christians and have started to consider this useless write up concerning the adoption of fetish and devilish traditional beliefs,this is what the WORD of the Almighty God of heavens and the earth,the creator of all things and the maker of man both the atheist,the traditional fetish/devilish believers,the GOD of the ignorant and the God of the saved has got to say ''The proverb is true that describes what has happened to them'A dog returns to it's VOMIT 'and a PIG that is washed goes back to wallow in the mud'' What a pity but the lord God Almighty will deliver HIS people.

[quote author=hakym_biyi@yaho][/quote]No biblical quotation can save anyone one of you if God HIMSELF(Almighty God)does not come into the matter proper using HIS spirit(HOLY SPIRIT) You guys reiterate that Christianity is imported religion.That's very very true that we need not to be told or reminded cos we know. There are good imports and there are toxins that people also import into the country.
But i tell you that the best thing that ever happened to man the creation of the Almighty God is to bring back to us that which the devil stole from mankind right in the garden of EDEN.And now some ignorant and prodigal children of the Almighty God said we should throw it away or put it side by side with the devilish practice of our ignorant fathers.
How come you want us to discard Christianity which you said is foreign and you still want to wear the clothes and also use the mirrors and combs given to you by the foreigners just to say the very very least ?You can go pick up ur raffia attires and use dem for cover !
Now listen,for those of you who were once Christians and have started to consider this useless write up concerning the adoption of fetish and devilish traditional beliefs,this is what the WORD of the Almighty God of heavens and the earth,the creator of all things and the maker of man both the atheist,the traditional fetish/devilish believers,the GOD of the ignorant and the God of the saved has got to say ''The proverb is true that describes what has happened to them'A dog returns to it's VOMIT 'and a PIG that is washed goes back to wallow in the mud'' What a pity but the lord God Almighty will deliver HIS people.
I know having seen all these,''A fool has said in his heart that there is no God'' Shalom !

Martian: If you want to be a realistic, you will admit that both the preacher and the traditional man are snake oil salesmen using their position and their victims' ignorance and gullibily to carry out their atrocities. Your argument boils down to, "at least the christian preacher only rapes and doesn't kill".

The fact is there is no difference between the ancestral religions and the pathetic ones you people follow now. People like you are always quick to bring up the ignorant acts of the old beliefs, while ignoring the ridiculous antics of your cherished jews and their god in your bible; and the actions of christians in recorded history.
Christianity used to be more barbaric than it is today, just like the ancestral religions of different cultures, so pointing out human sacrificies and the likes as arguments against the old religions is asinine. Just like christianity evolved, the ancestral religions can also evolve. At the end of the day, christianity is bullsh#t, just like the ancestral beliefs are bullsh#t. So get off your high horse, and realise that yahweh is as "unique" as zeus and Amadioha.

A fool has said in his heart that there is no God !
No matter how any true Christian try to convince any one who does not believe to believe in God and follow HIS word(JESUS),may just be a wasted effort.Let the non believer hear you and above all,see you live what you preach and you have done ur own part.Christians shouldn't engage in a heated debate with an on believer.The reason is that you can only win them over by the word of God and the word they don't even want to hear,so how possible?With God all things are possible.No wonder christ asked his disciples to leave any home where they are not welcomed as they go about preaching the good news.You can have a debate with a christian who believes in the bible but still see somethings differently as a result of inadequate study of the word or doctrinal issues and it will be fruitful.
There were people and we still have them today who engage in acts that are far from Christianity or contradicts the word and just becos they attend church or profess Christianity.These guys aren't christians.
I rest my case.God bless you all

I talk am say this GEJ na better president wey God give us.

No be only gari them dey take MUDU carry.We fit mudu our money self.lol

alaoeri: But to be sincere why are non muslim producing such thing to intimidate muslims, this ain't the 1st, 2nd or 3rd time & they know what its all result to. Unlike xtians, muslims doesn't like someone mocking their religion then why not desist from the act for peace to reign.

Have you seen the movie corpus Christi ? They call it gay Jesus.
When your orientation has got nothing to do with fighting,if you go to war,you will sure loose !

ifeness: Pathetic!!! I couldn't help but laugh out very loud. You kept talking about God as if it were real. You need to drink a chilled glass of beer and sleep.

As if what was real ?

[quote author=m.k.o2005]As long as we continue to enjoy and endure the 'boy/girl friend thing' we will continue to count victims ![/quote
We enjoy and encourage boy/girlfriend amorous relationships,we will continue to count our losses !

alaoeri: The most painful thing is they won't learn, sorry more victims to fall.

As long as we continue to enjoy and endure the 'boy/girl friend thing' we will continue to count victims !

Duxe: What if 1 decides 2 stay boyfriendless nko? Abi,these things dey show 4 face?

recently here in calabar not far from me, a bf bucthered d gf like beef in his house @ night simply because he felt she was dating his friend! And he is not an armed robber! She only went 2 his friend 2 beg him 2 come talk 2 d boyfriend about some issues they had! He was caught by d military guys guarding the swamp while trying 2 dispose off 'fresh meat' from a big bucket!

This guy was known by the girl's brothers(she was an only gal) n parents! Meaning he didnt show signs of violence or anything of d sort!

All we have 2 do is pray n teach our young girls 2 always pray about thier future husbands/relationships! God should expose every hidden character of your intended!

RIP 2 wunmi...and divine comfort 2 d parents.

Boy friend thing is just a fad and it will continue to end on sorrowful notes ! May her soul rest in peace.

afam4eva: Na waoo...people should get to know whoever they call their boyfriends. That's how one girl saw people gathered one day looking at a armed robber that was killed by Irate youths only to discover that it was her boyfriend.

What do you need a boyfriend for ? As long as we continue to keep boyfriends and girl friends,things like this will continue to happen.Boy friends and girl friends idea is a trick of the devil !

[quote author=WAM?]Your question was why would God lead you to someone who would say no. Mko answered by stating the fact that only God knows. In the case of Moses God knew Pharaoh would say no. Also God does not exercise authority over us he gives us a free will- so if a lady or guy you are led to says no you can choose to be persistent or you can be led to another.[/quote]Thanks for the explanation.If i was to reply,it would hav been same.Thank WAM !

obowunmi: Why will God lead you to someone who says "No"?

My broda,i think we hav dwelt so long or over flogged this issue.But i tell you,no one knows everything in life not even King solomon the wisest man that ever lived yet he regretted at the end of the day.It goes to show that it's only GOD who knows all.
When God asked Moses to go ask Pharaoh to let HIS people go,did HE not know that Pharaoh will say no ? He was aware but what gave Moses victory over Pharaoh? Persistence !#
Even when she says no,can you continue to stay put to see if she eventually agrees in the long run ?But why stay put in something that is not yet marriage when God still has other beautiful daughters of HIS out there for you ? I dnt want to digress brother.I suggest we leave this discussion for some other time or thread !
Thanks and God bless !

MacDaddy01: load of nonsense.


the 64% of Japanense were asked if they believed in god and they said "no".

Why do you hesitate to call them fools? Are you seeing that you are wrong.


There are murderers, rap.ists and thieves. If a god in his wisdom chooses put me in the same class as those rogues and send all of us to the same hell, then he is a fool.

I dread the kind of posts i see here on NL ! most people here have little or no respect for God.I'm beginning to think if i should be on this blog !

MacDaddy01: Hey smartazz, what the hell are you talking about? Are you really saying that I know nothing about christianity? lol you must be joking.


Christian prophets;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophets_of_Christianity



Also, why did you ignore the main points of my comment? The hypocrisy about one wife? The wisest man in the bible had about 700. Jesus had no wife. Abraham had 2 baby mothers. Where does this one wife and sanctity of marriage come in from christianity?


What about inbreeding Abraham and his half sister, Sarah? How did Adam and Eve have grandchildren without inbreeding?

700 wives with 700 regrets !No wonder he said vanity upon vanity.Will you like to go his way ?
Abraham with two baby mothers but only one approved of God.Abraham was unknowingly asked to contradict the word of God by his wife which he regretted.That was the reason for two baby mothers.Jesus had no wife becos HE came to earth for something very different-The MESSIAH !He was called to redeem man kind and not to get married.Why get married when HE knows he has limited time here on earth.Marriage is for earthly people becos angels and all heavenly beings dnt get married.
Talking of inbreeding,check out the laws of old concerning whom u are expected to get married to and the reason why it wasn't spoken of in the new testament.
Thanks Bro.

obadiah777: THATS CUZ THE CHILDREN SEE THE HYPOCRISY BETWEEN THE MANS REAL LIFE AND HIS ELEVATED SPIRITUAL STATUS AS A PASTOR. THAT STUFF MESSES WITH THEIR MINDS. THESE PASTORS ARE ALL SNAKES. THE KIDS ARE REBELLING

YOU see what happened to this family is a very big challenge and the devil is happy with it.It's part of the cross you are to carry when you walk with God.Things dnt just go all rosy becos u are a child of God,NO.We can see so many examples drawing from the scriptures with servants of God and their children.When you are walking and you dnt see hudles on ur way,i tell you it's a walk with the devil heading towards destruction.The hurdles you meet on ur way some times are placed by the devil to deter you from reaching the promises of God up front.
You remember the stormy see when Christ and HIS disciples are in a boat?There was heavy rolling and pitching with the boat yet our lord Jesus Christ was sleeping and may be even snoring so relaxed.He allows things like that some times to get to u so u can realise that u are only human who needs the JEHOVAH Elohim in ur life and situations.
The bible says''start children off on the way they should go and even when they are old they will not turn from it''Could it be possible that T.D Jakes never did becos he was busy with the ministry? i dnt think so.But it's possible that negative company and influence stole everything from the child.Because the bible said ''do not be deceived,bad company corrupts good morals''1 corinthians 15:33.The bible says:''The rod and reproof gives wisdom BUT a child who get's his own way brings shame to his mother.'' You see,that's what's going on here.It's not like what you said that the pastors are snakes.If Reverend fathers and popes start getting married 2morow,they will face same challenge.

slimyem: lol
In summary "suffer in silence" shey?
Things women do just to stay married..
Besides,that it worked for her doesn't mean it'll work for others..
The man's escapades could even become worse on the long run..especially since his wife is fully supportive and cooperative...
Similar strategies do not necessarily work for similar situations.

''Wives in the same way submit yourselves to ur own husbands so that if any of them do not believe the word,they may be WON OVER without words by the behaviour of their wives,when they see the PURITY and REVERENCE of your lives.your beauty should not come from outward adornment,such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes.Rather,it should be that of your INNER SELF,the unfading beauty of a GENTLE and SPIRIT,which is of great worth in God's sight.For this is the way the HOLY WOMEN of the past who put their hope in God used to adorn themselves.They SUBMITTED themselves to their OWN HUSBANDS''1 Peter 3:1-7

Funny enough people find it difficult to listen to the word of God,there by making it difficult for the holy spirit to teach them.
The best way of winning a cheating husband over is to submit according to the above scripture.@Op,you have finished your own.No one should think divorce is an option at all.Though for Godly people and not for world people !

thelastPope: How do you implement a cashless economy by introducing a currency note that makes it easier for people to carry cash? Can't just get my head around it. Its got to be the irony of the year!

I like more of WORD base(bible) issues.''I am a good bible student by HIS grace but a bad economist-M.K.O.
But if i can put something forward on this one,i think scrapping 200,500 and 1000 naira notes will help the cashless policy and if at at all we should think of 5,000 naira let it be in coins ! Reasons is becos if people think of the stress of carrying 1 million naira in like 5 Ghana must go,they will prefer a swift or other bank transfer as against 5,000 naira note that wil see one carrying as much as 2.5 million naira on him without any kind of bag.
If you consider the load and weight 2.5 million naira in coins will put on you,you won't go near it even if it's in circulation.This for sure will help the cashless society.

Tinyemeka: When your bible is torn, you replace it.

Please get my point. What is the i-Pad actually designed for? That the bible and other related apps are made available on a mobile device is a very good thing. But the i-pad was primarily designed for mobile computing, entertainment, gaming, etc.

We come to church to receive the word of God, worship and be refreshed. But that i-Pad is better used in a place where it won't constitute a distraction to other members of the congregation. My church has a cine projector but how can that be distracting, when what is being shown on the big screen are bible passages and other messages which the speaker intends to pass across?

Bro honestly, once someone whips out an i-Pad or other device in the church and starts flipping away, those around him/her are bound to focus their attention on that person. Brief seconds albeit, but that shouldn't have arisen in the first place. Just as phone calls should not be made inside the church. Now where the church leader is the one who engages in this practice, every other person will follow.

All I am saying is that, there are aids which are being EFFECTIVELY used in the propagation of the Gospel (cine projectors, satellite TV, podcasts, etc), but the use of an i-Pad, laptop in place of the bible on the pulpit, is an over-kill. Bordering on pursuit of materialism.

Before now,wen you bring out a mobile phone any where say bus,mosque,streets or church,people get distracted.So it is with some kind of bible these days ! But with time,pple started purchasing every kinds of sophisticated phones and distractions as a result of seen a new kind of different phones went into oblivion.I tell us,a time will come when no one will care if you as a teacher of the word uses
I-phone,I-pad and the likes.If some of these men of God do it to impress,it concerns them and not me.Some dnt use any of those devices including laptops not because it's sinful or expensive and not affordable but may be they are not just comfortable with it.It's possible they can't flow when they are on it just like me.The first time i saw a modern projector in church with all the biblical inscriptions on it,i remembered SUPER NINJA i once watched in a Cinema.And all attention was on the projector and not the word of God.You see,but as time goes on,i came to terms with the projector bein in church.Just like havin a T.V in church to display what's been aired,people can never be distracted becos of their familiarity with it.
These devices in themselves aren't bad but it's what you do with them par time.Taking a magazine to church isn't bad at all but the issue will be what i do with it at that time.May be to wrap my bible,or to scribble some words of God on it or may be to read up other issues while the word of God is on.People say taking a cell phone to church isn't proper.Not that it is sinful but becos of the possible distractions it might cause for you,hence the advised to keep it away or switch off.If u can switch off,why bring it to
church ? For me as a shipper,i put on silence so as to see any distress call either from the office even or from my clients who work even on sundays.The phones aren't necessarily asked to put away so as not to only distract but other worshipers but becos of a possible incoming calls and NOT BECOS PEOPLE WILL BE CARRIED AWAY BECOS OF THE SOPHISTICATION OF UR PHONE.-No it isn't.If people till date still get distracted by high tech phones in church,then they will get distracted at the style of church buildings,fixtures and fittings,the pulpit,the set of musical instruments,the robe of the Reverend,the suit of the pastors, choristers,ushers,new members,female and male alike,and infact virtually everything in church.Ok,becos there are people who will be distracted by all these things,are we then to keeep those things away and may be not have church service any more ?God forbid.Let's not contradict the word of God at anytime and try to help new converts who can't keep up with developments that positive.

THE BELOW QUESTIONS SHOULD BE DURRING ISSUES LIKE THIS:
Are there consequences using gadgets(Projector,I-Pad,I-phone,Laptop) in church to propagate the word of God ?
How grave are the consequences ?

Answer the above two questions to urself but if you are still not ok as regards what the practice should be,read below scripture am sure you will be convinced regarding this issue.I pray the holy spirit helps us all. ROMANS 14:1-23
Thanks

[quote author=WAM?]I totally agree with mko and goofie your missing his point. If you pray for direction from God and your certain that you have found the one why court?-aka studying the person and all. I also grew up with courting doctrines - I heard that day in day out and to be sincere with you it has no biblical backings and most denominations try to limit it to a year now.
When you pray and God shows you the one- you guys can spend time in preparing for your future together- be it through counseling or financial planning and so on. But if you are courting the person 'God' has already shown you to be the one - to see if they change- of what use is that?-even if they change that is Gods choice for you. Or are you doubting God's choice.
The key point here is seeking divine direction from above. We are so limited and no amount of studying would be enough. We have to let go and let God.[/quote]You are on point my brother.Thanks a lot.

Zeebah23: i totally understand ur point. D thing here is,God has given u directions,u walked up 2 me & i prayed and later accepted ur proposal. R u gonna get married 2 me d following day? NO! We nid 2 sit & plan,won't we meet each odas family b4 getting married? This and stuffs lyk dat r things 2 b done during 'christian courtship'. God is not a magician,he has shown u d way,u work it out. Intimacy and sex is NOT ALLOWED.

Zeebah,i want to name my un-born baby Hephzeebah !
You got everything just perfect but if we continue to use the word courtship,it makes it the COURTSHIP and there is nothing like Christian courtship ! In fact the only place where courtship should be mentioned should be in marriage where we study our spouse,learn them very well,help them in areas where they are week,try to check how compatible we are in marriage life and other issues,try to adjust where and when necessary,try to LIVE with and accept things we can't change and not to walk away as is the case of pre-marital courtship.
You see i'm trying to bend the rules now just to accomodate the word courtship in marriage to sute you.
Courtship shouldn't be mentioned at all.
Shalom

goofie: i get ur point. why plan for the future if God hs ordained it? why wld u need counselling too? marriages r made in heaven but the work hs to be done on earth.
let me assume tht u meet a woman and u plan ur wedding in the space of three months, wht do u do within those three months?do u see her at all?do u spend time 2geda?do u talk? or do u just wait 4 d wedding day and continue from der?

The big question is what is courtship?Do you court to plan ur marriage or you court to study,learn understand or for compatibility check? Ofcourse the later is what 'courtship' is.
When you plan ur wedding in the spate of three (3) months,if you have finished planning as in you have fixed ur date and all other things in place,you keep talking and waiting for the D day.Is that one courtship ?That's no courtship at all.
i REST MY CASE ON THIS ONE.I know it is dificult to accept something new even wen it's the right and biblical thing to do.

Zeebah23: Lemme give u my definition of 'christian courtship'. It's d period between d time both parties know dat dey r 'GOD'S WILL' 4 each oda and d time they get married. During this time,both parties get 2 know each oda better,dey know their backgrounds, parents,friends,jobs,goals e.t.c. It's NEVER a time for 'sampling,testing,examining' or any oda term dey use. There r instances wen d man discovers dat d 'will of God' is far away from him and wen dey eventually meet,dey must get 2 know each oda. Dis period is d Courtship!
Note: When i say christian,i'm not referring to every Tom,D*ck and Harry dat goes 2 church.

For the fact that you left out sampling,testing,examining and the likes does not mean it is left out in courtship whether christian or non christian so far it is courtship.It's only our pastors try to brand it Christian dating,christian courtship and all other things they call it.See below after which i will rest my case:
Friend,i love your statement and questions.My church teach courtship but based on personal or life experiences likewise other churches.But i have started to make every one of us there see that for the fact that we teach it here does not make it biblical.
The christian courtship can't be the time you know who the will of God is and the time you get married cos you can't court in isolation.It happens between two people.And if it's the time to know who the will of God is you dnt have to have any one at hand becos it means you are the one choosing for him to inturn APPROVE who you have presented.
See the line below:
If you dnt know where you are going to,ask for God's direction
After you have been directed to ur would be life partner or to WHERE you will find her,and you see who you LIKE,
You will find out that the person will be a 'christian'becos God is directing you,
Ask yourself a question concerning your future life with that person you hav seen and liked,
If you experience calmness of the heart havin asked urself that question,
Please note that the calmness or disturbance in heart is a sure possible ways God speaks to even a baby christian,
Havin considered all the above to be on the positive side,go ahead and propose to the person.
Because you have been directed by God does not mean the person can not object to ur marriage proposal,
This is where you start to work to make her accept you but not as in the case of Courtship where you go into relationship to study,learn or for compatibility check.
If the would be life partner accepts you,inform your parents and she would do same then you guys can start to plan for marriager and not courtship but in a situation where she refuses to accept you,move on with life and apply same principle yuou will see you will get married easily.
I tell you my brother,the devil does not want us to get married hence courtship which most certainly leads to pre-marital sex and God's wrath towards us the chosen.
The coming of the lord will be like the days of Noah men will be getting married and giving out their daughters in marriage.The devil does not still like this one hence his strategic and devlish delays through courtship and others !
Remain blessed brothers.

[quote author=WAM?]I totally agree with mko and goofie your missing his point. If you pray for direction from God and your certain that you have found the one why court?-aka studying the person and all. I also grew up with courting doctrines - I heard that day in day out and to be sincere with you it has no biblical backings and most denominations try to limit it to a year now.
When you pray and God shows you the one- you guys can spend time in preparing for your future together- be it through counseling or financial planning and so on. But if you are courting the person 'God' has already shown you to be the one - to see if they change- of what use is that?-even if they change that is Gods choice for you. Or are you doubting God's choice.
The key point here is seeking divine direction from above. We are so limited and no amount of studying would be enough. We have to let go and let God.[/quote]My brother,you likewise all who have been on this are blessed.God will help us to see all these so we dnt just swallow hook, line and sinker of all that our pastors,reverend,bishops and popes have been saying to us that aren't what God intends for us.Some times these 'men of God'tell us these things sometimes because of their selfish interest and some other times becos they JUST DNT WANT TO BE HARD ON US.-Bless you.

ayobase: My brother, I read ur post up there, and Im in support, but everything is not left in God's hands to handle...I have seen many ordained by God marriages failed.Why?....the couples wouldnt do the parts of theirs.
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When u are giving pieces of advice....always consider the secular world also, and not only the .......
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No, 3 months are even too much, unless if the involvees are not deceiving each other!

Thanks brother for agreein at least to an extent with my views but i tell you like you rightly said,we have our own part to play.The things i tell believers are quite different from what i tell un-believers.I chastise believers as well as encourage them.But for un-believers,it is different.See my comment below:

137. m.k.o2005: Quote Post
Zeebah23: Don't take dis personal please,which church do u attend? I asked coz i know most churches teach courtship and how 2 go about it. Are u telling me dat once u know 'd will of God' u just go ahead and get married? Courtship in d christian sense is d period between d time u know who 'd will of God' is and d time u get married.

Friend,i love your statement and questions.My church teach courtship but based on personal or life experiences likewise other churches.But i have started to make every one of us there see that for the fact that we teach it here does not make it biblical.
The christian courtship can't be the time you know who the will of God is and the time you get married cos you can't court in isolation.It happens between two people.And if it's the time to know who the will of God is you dnt have to have any one at hand becos it means you are the one choosing for him to inturn APPROVE who you have presented.
See the line below:
If you dnt know where you are going to,ask for God's direction
After you have been directed to ur would be life partner or to WHERE you will find her,and you see who you LIKE,
You will find out that the person will be a 'christian'becos God is directing you,
Ask yourself a question concerning your future life with that person you hav seen and liked,
If you experience calmness of the heart havin asked urself that question,
Please note that the calmness or disturbance in heart is a sure possible ways God speaks to even a baby christian,
Havin considered all the above to be on the positive side,go ahead and propose to the person.
Because you have been directed by God does not mean the person can not object to ur marriage proposal,
This is where you start to work to make her accept you but not as in the case of Courtship where you go into relationship to study,learn or for compatibility check.
If the would be life partner accepts you,inform your parents and she would do same then you guys can start to plan for marriager and not courtship but in a situation where she refuses to accept you,move on with life and apply same principle yuou will see you will get married easily.
I tell you my brother,the devil does not want us to get married hence courtship which most certainly leads to pre-marital sex and God's wrath towards us the chosen.
The coming of the lord will be like the days of Noah men will be getting married and giving out their daughters in marriage.The devil does not still like this one hence his strategic and devlish delays through courtship and others !
Remain blessed brothers.