₦airaland Forum

Oseite:
Imagine if someone like Dangote was not a Nigerian, imagine how many people who he has helped to become stable won't have benefited. Remember he is from the far north...

Remember how he got his start, he was born into a family that has made money from the slavery of the majority northern population.

It was his uncle that gave him an import license which he sold, it was his uncle who gave him $500,000 to start his business ventures.

He went from selling import licenses to selling other government owned/restricted commodities - such as rice, fish, wheat and cement. I would understand and respect him as an industrialist if he was creating these industries in Nigeria, the truth is he has not.

It was only after he was able to use his political connections to push other traders out of business that he acquired so much wealth that he began to seriously invest in production of cement.

Dangote's presence does not wipe out the millions of poor northerners who have no hope of pushing forward because they have been denied the right to a worthwhile education because of the religion/culture of the society that they are born into. Dangote's presence does not excise the problem of child marriage, VVF and the general abuse of girls in the worst parts of Nigeria.

Also, lets not forget the Ebola scare where it took a foreigner (Bill Gates) to invest in protective measures in Nigeria before he got it into his head to pledge some money to screening potential Ebola victims. Why did he not realise that he has a responsibility to protect his work force, homeland and market?

Oseite:
Reformation, I agree with, not excision

Why do you not agree with excision?

Should it not at least be used as a means of coercing better behavior from the local and state governments in those areas?

Good thread, not sure about the order but there are lots of beautiful places to see in Nigeria.

Oseite:
I agree, that currently, the north doesn't really pull its weight in contribution to the national cake, but do you really think breaking up will be the best. The south west is a rainforest region, there is no large deposit of oil, ondo's is not enough, and as I stated earlier. the north has the better arable land. We should just learn to coexist without ethnicity and religious bias, then we will be going somewhere, and of course, resource control should be adopyed, so that every state can be in charge of its resources, and then remit a percentage to the federal govt. It will mean some states will be richer than others, but surely that is the essence of a federation.

Nigeria does not need a complete break up.

Only the far north (north east and the north west) needs to be reformed or excised from the union - the other regions are pretty reasonable.

Afterall, it's in the middle belt where Fulanis are murdering farmers daily.

menesheh:
You are taking the issue of cybercrime laws as if it is a way of tightening security vulnerability of cyberworld. It is a criminal act dealing with computers and networks (called hacking) and punishments to be meted on perpetrators of such crime.

The level of computer and Internet penetration and awareness in Nigeria is still at its lowest. If signed, many naive Nigerian on cyber things will be committing such crime unknowingly. We are not slaves to laws but laws are meant to control us.

Cybercrime encompasses many many aspects of our daily life, sharing of files, commenting on Nairaland, facebook usage, eating while browsing and pretty huge stuffs that may amaze an average Nigerian computer and Internet user.

No.

You don't know what you are talking about.

This crime is dealing with the abuse of computers to commit crimes.

The use of botnets and malware.

The trade in stolen information via electronic means.

It will not hurt the average user - I don't even know where you got that from.

Dollyak:
Is there any sane person who still thinks Nigeria is better off as one? Considering SW is the key to the integration of Nigeria, I would like to know their reasoning for supporting such a dysfunctional country. If the northern region was an employee in a company, they would've been sacked long time ago for being unproductive, too expensive to maintain, violent with different goals and values.
So my question is,
1 is there any economic benefits to this integration?
2. Social benefits?
3. Political?
This would never happen in Europe or America. I find it interesting that it is the yorubas living in foreign countries demanding better terms for the people of SW.

You've never heard of Belgium?

Yugoslavia existed for 70 years before war brought it to an end.

Basque separatists have been agitating for their own country for a long time.

Catalans have been looking for independence from Spain for at least 100 years.

Corsicans have been calling for independence from France for decades.

Scotland has been agitating for independence for centuries.

Bavarians have a separatist movement.

It took the Irish over 700 hundred years before they became an independent nation and even then they lost part of their island to the UK.

menesheh:
Read my comment again bro, i never said is not essential but we have more pressing issues than cyber crime.

Cybercrime is not just a bill government can just assent into law without vividly examining its entails in proportion with its subjects.

Do you know what is cyber? A world of its own in visual simulation. If you ever check US cybercrime law, you will notice that Nigeria is never ripe for that.

The law was reviewed and signed by the previous administration.

This should be a mere formality.

Cybercrime is a huge issue that needs immediate action otherwise Nigeria will be playing catch up on yet another issue for the next 20-30 years.

Already Nigerian cybercrooks are causing havoc in Nigeria and besmirching the nation. A delay in such a bill would cause/allow further harm.

menesheh:
We don't need regulations on cyber whatever now. He should regulate and fix most pressing issues first.

All he has to do is give effect to the law.

How can you say that cyber affairs are not important when so much business is done online?

That's almost as naive as claiming that bank regulation is not necessary now because of one issue or another - all of these things need attention.

http://afritechnet..com/2015/07/calls-for-buhari-to-implement.html


ISSAN (Information Security Society of Africa-Nigeria) has called for President Buhari to implement the Cybercrime Bill that was signed into law by his predecessor, President Goodluck Jonathan.

ISSAN has claimed that the move would save Nigeria billions of Naira that is currently being lost to cyber criminals every year. ISSAN called for the urgent implementation of the bill and praised the previous administration for their decision to sign the bill into law. The society stressed that it would help sanitize the country’s cyberspace.

The ISSAN President and General Manager, Union Bank, Dr. David Isiavwe, said that the law would protect innocent civilians from cybercriminals looking to defraud people of their hard-earned money. ISSAN is hopeful that the bill will be passed as part of the President's pre-election promise to eradicate corruption by upholding and strengthening the rule of law.

He went on to add,
“Also the new law will help individuals to know their rights as well as the appropriate use of their computer systems and the need to protect themselves against the activities of fraudsters in electronic communications.

“The ISSAN will also collaborate with relevant stakeholders to create the needed awareness by all and sundry until Nigeria successfully reduces the activities of cyber criminals to the barest minimum.”

http://afritechnet..ae/2015/07/calls-for-buhari-to-implement.html

http://afritechnet..com/2015/07/african-cyber-security-23-billion-market.html

The Africa cyber security market is estimated to grow from $0.92 Billion in 2015 to $2.32 Billion by 2020. Banking, financial services and insurance, energy and utilities have already significantly increased their spending on cyber solutions and services.

South Africa is expected to remain largest market in terms of size but Morocco and Nigeria, in particular, are expected to experience increased market traction.

The major force driving this market is expected to be the increasing focus on government regulations and compliance requirements and penetration of mobile devices and internet subscription. The enterprises across the continent are expected to ramp up investment in cyber security projects in the coming years in response to the increase in sophisticated cyber-attacks.

http://afritechnet..ae/2015/07/african-cyber-security-23-billion-market.html

glimpse33:
and we are self-acclaming ourselfs GiAnt OF AFRICA...
You can't find a disaster like this in Ghana!

You don't follow the news.

Just last month there was serious flooding in Accra which lead to multiple deaths.

Flooding happens everywhere - 6 weeks back I got a message from my friend in Oklahoma that he was stuck due to flooding.

oduastates:
Don't you think Something is fundamentally wrong if those appointment are ethnic based.
Don't you think there is a pattern of ethnic mistrust.

Some people are proud of their backwards traditions.

Welrez:
Northernisation in swift progress!

So we'll see 90% poverty and 90% illiteracy nationwide?

Nigeria I hail thee...

hardisha81:
yes of cos, they are really omo Ale bustard....they let those LAGOON tribe talk nonsense now...

Fulanis are slaughtering people in the middle belt

Islamists are murdering people in the north east and distracting the population with their silly war of terror.

And here you are stoking up Igbo/Yoruba tension - for what reason?

Is it the Igbos that are stunting Nigeria's growth? Are Yoruba's refusing to educate their children?

Open your eyes.

OrlandoOwoh:
You're a "house negro."

He's just dumb.

He has no understanding of Nigerian or British history and so he believes that Britain had good intentions towards the lands that it occupied.

IBBG:
A simple and elegant building. The british gave us independence too soon. They shuld hav waited longer a little bit b4 handing over to us. Perhaps by now we wuld hav had strong institutions and technological advancements like southafrica. Because the level of development they left us with, is what we are still battling to keep up with till today. SMH

Southern Nigeria was ready for independence, long before 1960.

It's the north that did not want independence in 1960 because they were not ready.

DankemzI:
Even Mary Slessor's house at Itam, Itu Local Government in Akwa Ibom state sadly the same location our amiable federal government chooses to site a nuclear plant in Akwa Ibom.
The Mary Slessor house is a tourist attraction, in Akwa Ibom they worship her as twin goddesse so much to learn from our history!
such a rich history with diversity!
**Mary Slessor stopped the killing of twins in West Africa**

Mary Slessor stopped the killing of twins in a few villages in a tiny corner of West Africa.

Let's stop repeating this lie that the killing of twins was widespread in the region when it clearly was not.

DONMAYOR19:
What of the duara dullard that scammed all Nigerians? Abi anybody fit scam pass this west germany man?

Not all Nigerians.

Just the usual goats in the north and a few in the south west.

I expect more from the south west.

Yar'adua mark II.

Maybe lightning will strike twice.

hansad:
Northern Nigeria exports mostly Islam and use of sharia criminal laws to the south.

South is left under-developed because of north. One Nigeria is a curse for the south.


South of Nigeria should have been Africa's economic power house without the north.

Southern Nigeria is still Africa's powerhouse, even with the north.

dangotesmummy:
Yobo continue slapping her so she won't need blush and contouring

Lol.

What do they have against dreadlocks?

[quote author=tensazangetsu post=35330700][/quote]I stand corrected, I forgot college fees (for overseas students only).

Atlantian:
Not up to £20,000 per year, about $12,000 per year and £7,000 for living expenses. You guys are just speculating. But for a region that provides billions for the entire country, this is just too little to ask for after years of neglect. I hope the pipelines and oil wells get blown up though.

No, I'm not.

I know because those are the fees for overseas students in the UK.

Cambridge fees for Chemical Engineering are at least 20,000 (to be precise they're 22,000)

Fees for law are £15,000 - those are the lowest.

For the colleges of University of London fees are similar.

Maybe places like Coventry fees are less.

Whichever way you look at it, Nigeria is wasting money enriching other nations instead of using its resources to build its own institutions - it's completely farcical.

If all the Nigerians, Chinese and Indians stopped patronizing UK universities, most of those places would turn into ABU overnight.

tensazangetsu:
Yes what he said is true 90000 pounds for a low rubbish UK school excluding living expenses. To attend cambridge cost as much as 56000 pounds a year that's almost 220000 pounds for a degree program.

£56,000 sounds a bit high.

It costs 35,000 to study medicine at Cambridge. Living expenses, whilst still high, are not as bad as London.

£45,000 per year for the five years, plus your two of clinical training.

ApexTitan:
The line in bold is patently untrue. Where did you fabricate this £90,000 from? (That's ~ N27m )

Na wa. Why tell tales that many people here can disprove with first hand experience?

£20,000 per year for fees. (£60,000)

£10,000 per annum for living expenses. (£30,000)

That figure sounds about right.

The okada riders don't cause any problems as the molue drivers.

They are the real menace on Lagos roads.

omoelesa:
I DONT Why theese bobo bolo are making noise all over the place because of common 47 Prisoner.

These aren't 47 'common' prisoners.

A typical criminal has an end game - the seek something tangible. These terrorists are insane - their endgame is the death of anyone that does not agree with them.

MizMyColi:
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These statements are conflicting...

That's the point.

The federal government isn't going to leave evidence of any transfer if it happened. Why would they?

If you have doubts or questions then they are issues that will not be resolved by pretending that they are not there - which is what it sounds like the OP is trying to do.

There is a reason why it is called 'faith' and not truth or fact - you are acquiescing to someone else's lie.

Yes, let's keep recycling the same useless leaders from the past.

What did he do for Kaduna state that makes him a good fit for any future position?

Lol at all the fools giving Buhari credit for the improvements in the power sector.

He hasn't even put his cabinet together, how can he take credit for the effects of policies put together by the past administration?