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Can someone explain to me what Sule Lamido has done to deserve to be on such a list?

From all the indices Jigawa is still a backwards state.

Not meaning to insult anyone, just curious.

doxime:
The only presidential material i see there is AKPABIO.apart from performance a president should be able to talk like a president.
you guys need to listen to this man talk.

Actions speak louder than words.

Akpabio has done a great job in AKS, the amount of infrastructure that he has put in place has been impressive. In that regard he has shown himself to be a good governor.

sandzphield:
Pleas don't mention Imoke cus e is a sleeping governor who is taking glory for what Donald duke did b4 leaving CRS for Imoke to govern.

He's keeping the momentum going, inspite of the decrease in Federal funding.

This is much better than what some state governors do when they come into office and leave good projects to go to waste (such as the Enugu International Conference Center).

You cannot fix that which is not broken. People in Nigeria are quick to criticize those leaders that come into office and scrap good projects started by predecessors, in Liyel Imoke you have a man whose ego appears to be in check.

Liyel Imoke is better than everyone other than the obvious (Akpabio) on that list.

How misguided would you need to be to become angry that there is no Arabic writing on the fiat currency of a secular African nation.

Does he get upset when he receives dollars and there is no Arabic inscription to be found?

holatin:
https://www.nairaland.com/2019031/shocking-dna-result-two-femi

Thanks. Such a sad story.

plaetton:
Oh these low iq people.
After 9 pages on this thread, you are still asking me that question?

Ok let me indulge you and test your honesty.
First, no one on this thread has criticized christians or Anyone enjoying wealth.

The question on this thread, which the brood of vipers have deliberately sidesteped, is, upon whose shoulders or sweath should a pastor enjoy any type of luxury?
Pls tell me, how does a pastor earn an Income that affords him to live in opulence?
Pls tell me which Nigerian pastor selfmade himself an lived in opulence before becoming a pastor.
All of Nigerias billionaire pastors were dropouts of one occupation or another.

Do you think that a pastor should take money from his congregation through various extortion schemes to live an opulent lifestyle?
If you have no problems with that, then surely, you and I do not live in the same moral universe.

I have no problems with sheep being fleeced (anymore).

I've met females who believe in tarot cards, horoscopes and other such nonsense in north America and they too enrich charlatans. Some do so whilst also going to church every week. You can't teach weak people to be strong. Or stupid people to be intelligent.

I do, however, feel for their children - such people always seem in a great hurry to have them. I wish there were a way to ensure that the children were not dragged into such a culture of stupidity.

aflyingbird:
40%? ABEG WHERE IS THE RESEARCH OR DNA TESTS? NIGERIA WiTh MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, HOW DOES HE KNOW?

40% sounds high - if these figures are based upon global trends then the figure should range from 10% - 30%

I've heard figures as high as 30% in America - http://www.wnd.com/2006/02/34861/

10% is the most frequent claim - http://www.canadiancrc.com/Newspaper_Articles/Globe_and_Mail_Moms_Little_secret_14DEC02.aspx

Even 10% may be an overestimation for many communities.

holatin:
am not surprised after reading Femi kuti stories.

some ladies of nowadays are worse than the devil.

imagine nurturing a child for over 20 yrs, and later getting to know he or she is not yours.
it can cause straight death for the guy.


LADIES WHY.

*off to ask my wife once again*

Sorry where did you read these Femi Kuti stories?

Do you have links?

Thanks.

There are couples where the husband goes to the mosque and the wife goes to church so there should not be an issue if a married couple go to separate churches.

My question would be - why are there so many different churches if the so-called 'word of god' is the same.

souljaboi51:
everybody wants the good life but life in the uk is not easy. their citizens groan and the crazy tax not to talk of immigrants. sometimes its better to stay in your country where you can be atleast comfortable than suffering in another mans land. if your visa expires jejely go home. easier said tho

This is what I do not understand, most British citizens do not live well by any means.

Yet there are people from elsewhere who are convinced that it is the land of milk and honey.

There are no natural resources (unlike Nigeria), the major industries are financial services (London is the money laundering capital of the world); retail (sales tax is 20%) and tourism (with tourists overpaying for very ordinary British hotels, restaurants and retail).

Nigeria has room to grow which means an economy that can and will expand but only if people are willing to work towards a greater goal.

I hope that people are begin to open their eyes.

ephemm:
Glad to hear that they want to sustain this culture.

Our culture defines us, brings out the uniqueness in us.

Nice research @OP

How does a refusal to use umbrellas help them?

Is if 'cultural' to use a car? a phone? a pen?

dsquare33:
True talk,the black men of God is so possessed by material things,unlike the whites who still preach the whole essence of Christ.they are not obssessed with material things,they preach out of love, extreme love for God and anybody who listen to some of them preach will know this pure unadulterated word of God. However, one can still find some real men of God that are blacks e.bro Gbile akani, bro kumuyi e.t.c

German Bishop Accused of Lavish Spending on Himself

The bishop, Franz-Peter Tebartz-van Elst, 53, of Limburg, was said to have let the cost of renovating his residence and other church buildings balloon to more than $41 million. The projects drew ridicule in the German news media for luxuries like a $20,000 bathtub, a $1.1 million landscaped garden and plans for an 800-square-foot fitness room — as well as a cross to be suspended from the ceiling of a personal chapel, which necessitated the reopening of a renovated roof.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/24/world/europe/vatican-suspends-german-bishop-known-for-spending.html

Joyce Meyer:
In November 2003, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch published a four-part special report[9] detailing Meyer's "$10 million corporate jet, her husband’s $107,000 silver-gray Mercedes sedan, her $2 million home and houses worth another $2 million for her four children," a $20 million headquarters, furnished with "$5.7 million worth of furniture, artwork, glassware, and the latest equipment and machinery," including a "$30,000 malachite round table, a $23,000 marble-topped antique commode, a $14,000 custom office bookcase, a $7,000 Stations of the Cross in Dresden porcelain, a $6,300 eagle sculpture on a pedestal, another eagle made of silver bought for $5,000, and numerous paintings purchased for $1,000 to $4,000 each," among many other expensive items – all paid for by the ministry.

And clearly you have never heard of Benny Hinn or Kenneth Copeland who were both investigated by the US Senate to face financial malpractice claims.

The level of brazen ignorance that you have displayed is no longer acceptable in the internet era. To argue that the issue of church leaders abusing the idiocy of their sheep for financial gain as somehow reflective of the 'black man' sounds (even more) stupid particularly when one considers how opulent the Vatican is. http://www.sitenet.com/travelblog/?p=2771

I've seen Kano Pillars games on TV where the stadium has been packed.

Not sure about the other teams.

If they promoted it then I'm sure that people would go.

OBlaize:
I stand corrected, sorry for the wrong use of the "adjective?"
I may not be a genius in the English language but I do know one thing...
"We did not get here by chance, there is a higher power thaat is behind all the things we see, think and feel, and that higher power is God (Good) and the other Satan (Evil)
You are entitiled to your own opinion

By the way thanks for the crash course on ENG 101

The fact that your English is not up to scratch is probably the reason why you fail to fully understand the dogma that you hide behind.

The whole god = good, satan = evil is the most childish fairy tale that I have ever heard.

Distressed jeans have been a 'trend' for a long time.

This is not news worthy, at all.

tsdarkside:
ATMs in churches

HAAHAHAHA....

too much...LOL

Sad but true.

http://www..ng/2014/03/23/question-day-right-atm-church/

http://www..ng/2014/02/12/two-nigerian-popular-churches-installs-an-atm-machine-in-church-see-photo/


Nigerian churches are only following global trends:
http://consumerist.com/2007/08/06/now-in-churches-atms/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZE8duvb-70

ogbonoeba:
Far from it bro, I ain't bitter. My government, cares about me, as for yours, well that depends.

You don't who my government is.

To be honest with you I've found that it is only foolish or irresponsible people who rely on governments to take care of their needs.

Ask anyone who has had to leave active service from the United States Armed Forces how well they were treated by their government - both during and after active service. I would suggest that you speak to those in need of medical assistance, in particular.

Billyonaire:
Why didnt Jesus simply trek ? Okay, Jesus used a white donkey, so the Pastors should trek ? What's your point? That a Pastor is supposed to be poor ? Is that your common-sense approach ? Listen young man. You will not even enter that place called Heaven if you are not tolerant. Is this how you win souls for your Jesus ? By being arrogant ? calling people names ? Go back to your Jesus and tell him you have failed him. As for me, you are my friend and brother in Nigeria, and we are NOT Jews. Pastors are following the steps of Jesus, by riding the mechanical white donkeys called Range Rover.

1. Stop lying to yourself - the Bible is very clear about how Jesus felt about material wealth. One of the earliest tales is of him turning over the tables of the traders/money changers at the temple. And yet in 2015 we now have ATMs in churches. Jesus is reported to have said that it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than to enter the kingdom of heaven - and yet there are pastors brazenly amassing material wealth and setting an unfortunate example to their sheep.

2. Stop making assumptions:
i) I am not a Christian
ii) You do not know where I reside

3. Christians claim to follow the scripture and abuse those that do not. If that is the case then they should follow it and stop being hypocrites.

ogbonoeba:
People speak out in other countries, most Nigerians could care less. The country is beyond salvation and rotten to the core.

OK.

That's another lie.

People do speak out.

But are told to shut up.

This thread is an example.

Saharareporters is another.

I get that many of you are bitter but try and avoid spreading lies, it's a most annoying habit.

Billyonaire:
Your analogy is totally wrong. Chariots were meant for war. And Jesus could not possibly ride on a Chariot. Why didnt he trek ? Why did he have to borrow, not a black, but a white donkey ? Jesus wanted to be seen, to be heard, Jesus wanted recognition. This is the same thing that the pastor that drives a Range Rover wants. Jesus, just as his pastor on earth all are doing the same thing. Which is mental re-engineering of the ignorant. Stay civil. You are my brother, we will NOT fight because of a Jesus from Nazareth, we are Nigerians NOT Jews.

Please educate yourself and stop spreading misinformation.

It is quite evident that you have not studied history, or the Bible yet you keep spouting nonsense.

Biga - ancient Roman chariot used for transport:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biga_%28chariot%29

These were also used to make a 'triumphant' entry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadriga

Were the mythical Jesus a wealthy man he would have, at least, ridden horseback - the stories don't even claim that he did that.

ogbonoeba:
What's the purpose? The OP is asking how come a pastor is driving an expensive car surrounded by poverty. Where is the money coming from?

Naija na wa o...you can't speak pidgin

No, speak English.

Why should I speak 'pidgin'?

What is the purpose of what?

voltron:
God is not poor.. he just likes hanging around poor people so he is richer by comparison. Heckling if the pastor wants to drive a plan instead of flying. Is it ya konsain?

Social justice should be every responsible person's concern. Especially those of you who claimed to be governed by a just god.

The reason why Boko Haram have been able to run wild and why they've found it so easy to recruit is because of the tacit acceptance of the gross inequality in that part of the world.

If people do not speak out against injustice then it is only a matter of time before those who have been mistreated will seek to lash out.

Billyonaire:
Again, what makes you think your interpretation is right and mine is wrong ? Chariot was was meant for war those days. Will it be right for a Jesus to drive Armor Tank to Jerusalem ? Donkey, and a white one at that represented our today's white Phantom Ghost. I stand by my assertion. And again, we are brothers, and Africans. We need not fight because of some strange religion from the Asians. Jesus is NOT even recognized as God where he was born. Why we dey carry am for head here ?

1. Chariots were used for travel, the wealthy had horses. They most certainly did not use donkeys - to claim such and to stick to such a claim is foolish.

2. You decided to defend the actions of the thieves who deceive the poor to get rich by making a false historical claim.

3. We are not 'brothers'.

ogbonoeba:
comparing horses to cars? naija, na wa o.

Learn to read.

This is about comparing the Middle East of then to the world today.

You do realize that the people who wrote the Bible did not have cars, right?


P.S.
What is 'naija, na wa o'?

Billyonaire:
What makes you think your intepretation of the bible is right and mine is wrong ? This is the problem with Christianity. Why did Jesus borrow a donkey anyway ? Why didnt he just trek ? Now he is causing argument between you and I. Sorry my good friend. We cant fight because of Asian Religion.

This is about your claim that a donkey was perceived as a sign of wealth.

A chariot is what the wealthy or high ranking Romans used for travel, not a donkey.

That is an issue of historical fact, not literary interpretation.

ogbonoeba:
Nigerians deserve every form of suffering, slap in the face, insult, currency devaluation, gej, pej, gmb, oil bunkering, political chaos, boko haram, pastors with rolls royce/bugatti, just all of it.

You deserve it because most of you all are just a bunch of gullible muthafkrs.

Oyibo is superior indeed.

I understand your frustration but let's not pretend as though the Catholic Church did not build it's wealth on the back of European ignorance and gullibility.

Billyonaire:
Even when Jesus had no money, he borrowed a white donkey and rode to Jerusalem. White donkey then was like our Phantom Ghost today.

No, a multi-horse chariot would have been the 'Phantom Ghost' of the day.

Any peasant could get a donkey. If the mythical Jesus had to borrow a donkey then he was not a wealthy man, at all.

You people begin with lies and end with lies. How about telling the truth, just for once.

manmustwac:
Athiest here based in london. Best to keep it to myself coz if some of my folks in nigeria foundout that am an athiest they won't take it easy with me. They will think there's something wrong with me like mental issues or am a witch or some silly stuff like that

The irony of them thinking that there is something wrong with you or that you are a 'witch' would, no doubt, be lost on them.

kay29000:
Oh! Okay, that's cool. Do you live in Nigeria?

No.

But some of the relatives that I have who are not religious live in Nigeria.

They know that I do not go to church and do not see things as they do.

There are other athiests/agnostics in my family.

You raised a ho.

You already failed as a parent.

Nothing more to be done.