₦airaland Forum

lucabrasi:
the point im trying to make with all my preamble is simply that,if the focus is on practicing democracy the way it should be,we wouldnt have all these issues,and advocating for an alternative form of democracy when we have not been sucessful in one we have been grappling with for well over 40 years is a recipe for disaster, a country like cuba can have a referendum or whatever to argue for an against communism,even venezuela to an extent because they have had some form of sucess in the form of governance they r using

Do you realize that Nigeria has not had a stable form of government for the longest time? It is hard to start talking about Western style democracy working for us when we have not had a stable form of government. This alternation between military and civilian rule has screwed us up enough. What we need to do now is to be adapted to the way of life we've been pushed to. Practicing democracy the way it should be practised is hard because we have been too unstable in those regards.
What we need to do is stop copying the US, UK and other developed countries and find a way to make this particular rule last. I see us returning to a Military rule once again and I am convinced that it will destroy the country because we would revert back to democracy after our president dies. We can't succeed until we find out how to keep this form of governance in power. We can't continually compare ourselves to non-African countries. It just won't work. No continent has had to deal with the amount of trauma that we as a continent has been through.

Where's Kobojunkie for this one?

He dismissed them because they wanted to go on strike? So policemen don't have rights again or what? How won't they be looking for bribes? Their voices are not heard now! Now who do we blame for the bribe issue again?

Eastbay:
don't want to sound cocky or anything,but maybe we'll use a dustbin as our goalkeeper for premiership teams,because the way our defence has been standing out lately,no one can get a shot on target at us.

Fergie:First to score against us=4 year contract at OT!!!

Oh please, feel free to be as cocky as you want. Our guys earned us bragging rights. I just need to see one more Arsenal fan come here and start shouting about 49 unbeaten. Na 49 unbeaten we go chop? Hisssssssssss! No trophy to show for it.

I loved the way, they played today. Made me proud. Upon the fact that they cancelled 2 goals, we still defeated them quite easily for my expectations. It was nice to put on my red today.

bawomolo:
good players don't fail physicals. damaged goods . the hornet would broke down financially and physically for years to come

damn kobe bryant came to play defense tonight. can we say MVP

31 points by kirk hinrich today. captain kirk is back

No matter what, you cannot spoil my joy. Both my teams (Man Utd and Hornets) made me proud today. . . all things work well. I am thankful that he did not pass the physical test. His spirit did not want to leave. I am fine with that. Kirk Hinrich has nothing on my CP3 - 36 points and 10 assists. Show me a better player.

Apart from the fact that we defeated Orlando painfully. 117 - 85 is not a joke when Howard actually played the entire time. I am soooooooooooooooo happy that Chandler's trade was rescinded today! I am the happiest NBA fan ever.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3917505

Tyson Chandler is back to NO. I don't know how Oklahoma can reject such a good player. It makes me so excited.

spoilt:
the passport will be put on the dead person's chest. . lets see if it will let him get past St Peter at the pearly gates.

Lol! I thought that the passport was only used on this side of life. I did not think it would work at Heaven's gates. That would be fun.

SHENANIGAN:
That's why you need to go home and make these changes. We Nigerians are very good at talking talking talking.

Just me? kai kai kai! What happened to you? If i can, i'll do this.

SHENANIGAN:
My dear J- Girl that's Nigeria for you, in Nigeria even the local government chairman has police escort with siren. Even the chief of my village who used to be a head master in a primary school now has police escort with siren.

Exactly, which is why I said it should be regulated. Very soon every car will have sirens and what will happen? Would it now become music to our ears? Would every car now drive with a siren? That's outrageous.

SHENANIGAN:
who am I you be FBI or CIA


I don't see what's wrong with the Gov's wife using siren, she travels with a lot of aids and officials from different departments, and if she is attending an event it's just right they all arrive at the same time. Try driving in the streets of Nigeria in a convey with no siren or police escort and see if all members of that convoy arrive at the same time.

So because the Gov's wife is leaving the house, she should carry the sirens with her? Should everyone start using sirens now? It's pointless. . . no doubt.

I did not know Yar'Adua became God o! Is it in this hopeless situation that they wish to change everything upside down in 11 years? I will watch this very carefully. If they can reach half they deserve bonuses. Yar'Adua himself might not stay alive till then with his poor health.

SHENANIGAN:
@ moonstone,


Sarap there You must not have visited Nigeria in a very long time. In Nigeria everybody can have sirens, even the Igbo traders can now hire escort with siren. What happened to the kid that was run over is a very tragic and horrific event, but it was an accident and could have happened to anyone siren or no siren. I just pray the kid did not suffer too much before he passed away and that his family will be very well compensated by the Government.

First and foremost, who are you?

Secondly, I go to Nigeria all the time. That is why I'm saying they need to regulate the use of sirens. Fashola is doing something about that in lagos. Other states could learn about it. It could have happened to anyone but it happened to the Gov's wife's convoy. We all know how the sirens bully people and make them move out of the way for no reason while they drive dangerously. They need to be more careful and actually use the sirens responsibly.

No amount of compensation can bring back the young teenager. Your Child or Money? Which would you choose?

chamotex:
Chamotex=Man U, so it's all good baybee.
Take one more . . . .

You are not serious Chamotex. Better run to bluespice and go and be kissing her. Just because we support the same club, doesn't mean you are an indirect husband to me o!

Just pray the club keeps doing well if not, I might indirectly take it out on you.

This is sad. I think Sirens need to be banned except in cases of emergency. I don't care what kind of hurry one is in, there is no excuse for crushing anyone or even hitting anyone. This is the height of barbarianism. I don't even know who should be blamed more, the driver or the Gov's wife. Carrying such pointless convoys is like a man crying wolf. If there is really an emergency, people won't take these things serious. They should monitor how sirens are used in Nigeria.

That poor boy did not deserve to die. Just for this, I want to know where the Gov's wife was going.

spoilt:
The know that perfectly well. Anything for the blue passport.

I don't think Death is worth it. Of what use is the blue passport if one is six feet under?

chamotex:
Hmmn really, not even if i dropped one of this on ur luscious lips?

Lol - Not even that. Man U is my ultimate husband o!

tRoOE:
lol no vex madam, shey na your bf be that
The guy na trash jare, very annoying thing, so full of himself
ahah better ke, abeg i will take shank over him

Not just my bf oooo, serious husband! We got engaged last night.  
I just think he's not that bad.
Comparing him to shank is bad now! Ah ahn. Why not say Pasuma has nothing on him? Hisssssss. . . LOL - you're gulping hatorade jare.  

ikamefa:
i really don't like all his gra! gra on stage  

but erhmmmmmmmmmm   i love the song!

Exactly! The song is very nice.

@ Crackles, LOL! Now I know what it is! You're so sad that he's the koko master and not you.
The video is nice, check it out. At least he'll run down as a millionaire and with a lot of fame.

MrCrackles:
Nah, a gazillion of him wont have my missus winking at him!

have you seen the vid?
Something tells me you two have a raging feud over some girl.

I actually like the beat, not sure of the songs. . . I'll need a lil' more time with them to finally make up my mind.

MrCrackles:
Dbanj is a sack of rotten onions!

Arrow!!

BLASPHEMY!
Crackles, did he take your girl?
Confess!

For a stupid, stupid reason,
Beep Beep - Bobby Valentino.

tRoOE:
Dbanj = garbage
What up with the naked chicks , shey dey think say na abroad dem dey abi
Terrible video, wack song

Trooe, how dare you? What is wrong with you and D'banj?
I think he's one of the better ones in Naija crazily enough.

Igbo or Ibo, whichever one - I think there is a catch. People better watch it before they ask to be recruited. I think they are enlisting their lives in Iraq.

JeSoul:
My sista I nor blame you jare. When I saw the trade I was like is it just me or does this look like a raw deal for the Hornets? Last season Chandler's inside presence gave the Celtics a tough time, he and CP3 along with West terrorised other teams with their combination. Besides "cap space" I don't see how this helps the team.

Na wa o! Don't worry. Let them bury themselves before their time. It was by luck they won yesterday with 2 seconds left. I really hope they can adjust quite quickly before they meet those yeye Mavs on March 5.  
[quote author=A-40 link=topic=148652.msg3484954#msg3484954 date=1234983764]I think Houston should just give up and trade these guys i mean whats the point of having players who you know fully well at the start of the season that they would not make it to the finish line heck even when both T-Mac and Yao where fit they still couldn't take the Rockets past the first round of the playoffs so whats the point in keeping them?
Lol it means if we ever meet y'all in the playoffs there is actually hope of my Mavs triumphing lol we are tired of losing to your Hornets damn i can remember the good old days when we had double digit winning streaks against y'all  

Magic vs Hornets
Mavs vs Nets  

May the better teams win[/quote]I agree. Houston should just pack it in and let Utah, Phoenix and Dallas stay there. Yao will soon get injured again. It's only a matter of time and it was not until the All-starz game that I saw how useless Yao Ming really is. Rockets make him look so good. Even Shaq did a marvelous job compared to that Ming. I guess you need to have skills, not just height.

If you meet us in the playoffs, I hope we destroy you as much as we did last time. There's a second time for these things, lol. I hope Hornets have a very narrow difference. I can't hope they win cos I know what they are going through. As for Mavs and Nets, I think they have saddened A-40 enough. _{[s]However, because there is a slight chance that we might lose drastically, I am hoping that Mavs fall short by one point so they won't overtake us again.[/s]}  

bawomolo:
oh shit, the Bulls made a move

Bulls - John salmons and brad miller

kings - Gooden and nocioni, cedric simmons and michael ruffin

good trade for us, ben Gordon goes to the bench where he belongs.




In a second potential deal with the Timberwolves, the Bulls would send Kirk Hinrich (who is scheduled to make $26.5 million over the next three seasons) for the expiring salary of 7-foot center Jason Collins and another unknown piece, possibly Brian Cardinal. This trade clearly would be a salary dump.

poor Captain kirk, Derrick rose put an end to that career sharp sharp.

come 2010, Dwayne wade signs and gbam we are a contender

You can dream o! This is so sad. . . see him wishing and hoping. LOL! I just saw that. I hope y'all lose even more. That is all I ask for.

Kobojunkie:
I sort of agree!

Oh wow! I'm quite shocked. At least you kinda agree.

Now Y'all know I don't like to brag but damn, I'm good! I said it and there it was.

On the second hand, I think I'm fine with 3 - 0. 1-0 is not fine enough for me. . . they better buckle up.

I love my Manchester United so much. . . and I'm so happy we have an additional GD as well as the 3 points. Nothing could make this day better.

Kobojunkie:
So if a cop does not ask for bribe but does his job and lets me go, what should I blame it on?

If he does not ask for bribe? or if he asks for a bribe?
If he lets you go and you don't give him a bribe, it's a thing of individuality of situation at that point. The Government should be blamed for such low salaries and blatant disregard for the cops. If the cop on his own decides not to go for a bribe, some people end up "dashing" them money anyways. Some people do recognize that there are other ways to go about getting money but most of them act like that because of greed and they see it as the only option to keeping themselves afloat.

So If I get bullied and beaten by a cop, it is government’s fault. What if I don’t get bullied at all, what do I blame it on?

If you don't get bullied at all, why would you blame someone for that? If you don't get bullied, praise the cop's personality.

The one thing I've learnt is that Western-style anything will never work for Africa unless Africa reaches the stages of the Western world right now. Africa now is the Western world 200 years ago. We are backwards and we need to work on our own progression. To have another style of democracy mixed with all the tribal conflict will not and cannot work. You can't use aspirin to treat typhoid. . . we have to figure out how to make our democracy work for us and how it can catapult us to the Western level first (No curse, this is not going to happen anytime soon). When you have similar worlds, you can then employ their method of democracy.

Kobojunkie:
We All know the origin of the problem in Nigeria, THE NIGERIAN PEOPLE who allowed all this to happen in the first place and continue even 10 years after official starting of  a democracy ( Government for the people by the people).  

If they should be held accountable TO SOME EXTENT are you saying when a person is killed for not paying bribe ( even though this does not happen often), the cop should not be given full punishment for the crime?

I agree that Nigerian People should be blamed for this.

If a cop kills a person who does not pay bribe, that's taking it too far now. It is no longer just murder, it's now murder and extortion. If a cop is asking for bribe - I'm saying you should blame it on the fact that he's living on a very low salary with the Government paying little to no attention to him as an individual. If that cop decides to take it to another level such are murder or assault, it's now a personal issue pertaining to just him. Majority of the policemen ask for bribes but very few of them kill or beat one up because of it. They might give you a tough time and all but they usually don't go as far as killing or beating.

I think these are strong words that should be taken seriously irrespective of anyone's beliefs. For those who don't believe it, they should start saving up for the thunderstorms ahead. For those who believe it, they should just pray they are not included in these events. I know messages like this tend to wind people up the wrong way. Pastor Adeboye is one of the most respected men of God in the country and he has made a lot of predictions in the past which have come true. I think believing him would work in the interest of those who know what he has said in the past and how the results have turned out.

Kobojunkie:
Is this the story you are willing to FEED the next family that loosesa son/daughter/mother/ father/ cousin? Is this really what you will tell them for reason why you do not believe these policemen are to be held accountable for their actions?

It is not a story. It is the fact. I am not saying all the blame should be placed on the govt. Like you rightly said, some are good. All I'm saying is that we should trace the origin of this rubbish. Policemen should be held accountable to some extent but majority of the fault is the Govt's.

Kobojunkie:
Even when their pay was ok back some years ago, they still collected bribe. You blame the government for a man's continued choice to be dishonest when you are willing to admit that there are those amongst them who choose not to be? Come on!!! If the police pay is not good for you why not protest or find you something else to do rather than harrass and take out your anger on those in public? I am sorry, these excuses are not cutting it. Yes, the government s bad but if they are not willing to protest/walk off/fight to change things, are you telling me that the members of the public who are bullied by these men are just casualties and nothing more?
Why have 5 kids on a salary you know can not cut it?

I blame the government because the corruption in those high ranks trickle down to the lowest levels. If the government was not so corrupt, would the policemen be earning so little? The thing about it is that we all know that money is going to the Judicial levels and we see it because the IGs and AIGs are busy racking up serious amount of millions and building ridiculous houses everywhere. If the police pay is not good and you know there is so much underemployment, would you rather stay and be earning a little money or would you leave your job in search of another job you may never find? They make do with what they have because that is their only choice. Labour unions especially those of Teachers are the only group of people who walk off and get result. As bad as Nigeria is with Armed robbery and kidnapping, you want them to walk off? Anyway, it's not like they are that useful in that respect. Members of the public bribe their ways through everything including college and even work applications. If they can do that, why must we only shout about one segment. Nigerian policemen are not the only ones collecting bribes and this shows that there is something wrong with the system in the country.
You know how people are with family planning. . . some of them don't even know how to use condoms and they rack babies up thinking it was supposed to be that way.

Olumide7:
My prediction

Manchester United 0 - 1 Fulham

You are free to quote me after the game.

Thanks

Happily! See Josephs!

dyabman:
manu has played tonight already.

fulham 3 manu 1

Your prayers for this game will not be answered tonight. Such evil!