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davidylan:
Actually its more likely you're one of those with the problem. This thread was made with the intention of being humorous. If you read the first 1-3 pages everyone kept it pretty light . . . well until those who think they "know better" chose to show up.

Yes we look like monkeys, it may interest you and other folks to note that 99% of our DNA is no different from that of a chimpanzee.

Like someone once said to me . . . smile . . . the world isnt as horrible as you make it out to be. Wow! One single line, blown out of proportion and everyone has a face contorted with anger.

I really don't know when this Monkey business bru ha ha started. I even put a short phrase at the beginning of the title thread just so no one would misconstrue the motives.

It is obvious some people want me to admit to things I ahve not implied nor stated so their points can be validated

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=411783.msg5978347#msg5978347 date=1272649240]Macaca[1] is a pejorative epithet used by francophone colonialists in Central Africa's Belgian Congo for the native population.[2] It may be derived from the name of the genus comprising macaque monkeys. The word macaque has also been used as a racial slur. The macaque's genus name, Macaca, is a latinization of the Bantu (Kongo) ma-kako,[3] meaning "monkey".

In the United States, the term was at the center of a controversy during the 2006 United States Senate election in Virginia when it was used by the Republican incumbent, George Allen. Most Americans were unfamiliar with the term until continual media coverage revealed it to be a racial slur. Allen claims to be unaware of its racial context. Relating to the Allen controversy, "macaca" was named the most politically incorrect word of 2006 by Global Language Monitor, a nonprofit group that studies word usage.[4] The word was also a finalist for the American Dialect Society "Word of the Year" that same year.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaca_(slur)

You have a problem with people being called Bantu, but you're here saying another thing? You're confused!!


If you want non-whites to be cool with being called monkeys, then contact the hiphop and rap moguls to funkify it like they did with ni$$a and b*tch[/quote]still don't know how this relates to the topic. However I will try to come donw to your level of reasoning. Accroding to your above post. If hte perogative of the word macaca is racially derived. Thats fair if its orignes should e understood as such.

In refence in the word Bantu. My argueements on the issue support the above post as most people are unaware of the use of the word in refence to peoples of Afirca. It has ben used to seperate certain Afircan individiuals on a phenotypic basis when in reality it is more of a language classification. Therefore its use should be restricted mainly to the groups who oare within its lexicton pronounciations.

Example calling Most west Africans Bantu is incorrect.
Calling a senegaleses person a bantu is incorrect

Calling a sudanese east African a bantu is incorrect


In addtion the mapping of this langue and the area it encompasses is in continuous review by several African linguists as the basis of this classification did not take several factors into consideration.

Thisis the reason bantu should be restricted to its most basic definition which is a primarily southern African derived language grouping

@ all

It seems some brainless people with certain personal issues concerning themselves have hijacked my thread to try to turn it into some personal vendettas they have against each other.

It is sad that there are human beings who are as always "enemies of progress".

Again this thread has nothing to do with racism in any shape or form as many intelligent people are able to dicern and it is obvious that people with very little knowledge on the subject matter are the ones undoubtedly swooping in to try to come off as intellectuals concerning this matter.


Please I urge nairalanders to pull up other threads that I have opened or argued on and judge my intellect against the one known as Tpia.
In fact I am throwing down the guantlet at this Tpia personality and challenging you to open up any subject matter concerning RACISM.

At the end of the day it will be revealed who is the DUMMY. Let's find out who the jokes on, shall we?

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=411783.msg5973565#msg5973565 date=1272571992]the fact which you dont want to grasp is:

your subject matter is more suitable for stormfront, which is a racist white nationalist site.

Why you continue to deny the obvious, is beyond most people here.

Seriously, I'm amazed by your stance on this matter. Are you Thor, Mpele or that other white fellow who used to post in travel section. As I recall, you were yelling for him to be shut down, yet see yourself now.

Get over your hurt feelings and see what you're actually doing.Ten thousand gutter posters wont help you here.

End of!!![/quote]At this junture I have nothing more edifying to say to you, if you can't constitute what is racist in your mind. You are simply blank in the head.

@ POSTER

DEM NEVA HAMMER YOU FOR BOTSWANA MAKE YOU GO CARRY YOUR EYE SEE BOTSWANA PASSPORT.

Medlabgirl:
@Morpheus: I have tried my best to refrain from commenting on this thread, but really I have had it! .
I am not sure why people cannot see your intentions for what they were. This was simply an observation of purely phenotypic similarities between the monkeys and the men. NOT A THEORY, NOT A PROVEN ANYTHING!!!!!!!!.
For all we know, it might be some element of the environment that has caused this. Also, we as humans are very susceptible to suggestion. Your brain will always try to make sense of something, and it tells the eyes what to see. All the big grammer aside, its was just something you noticed. Doesn't apply to entire populations or anything! AARRGH!!!!! I"m pissed! To add insult to injury, people are trying to look and sound smart off of it. Morph do not defend anything jare! I and a few others with a brain can see it for what it is; a lighthearted observation. The other dummies can just SHHHHHUUUUUUUT UP!!!

[size=14pt]It was meant to be funny! Look at it, have a good laugh and move on, and stop attacking the poster you effing stu-pid a-ss rat bas-tards!!!
Get a life![/size]

THANK YOU O JARE MY SISTER,

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=411783.msg5973038#msg5973038 date=1272565184]more like gutter display

this is meant to be funny, you useless beast of no home training

too desperate for a man- na so dem dey attract males for your habitat?

You must look like a howler monkey cos you sure as heck sound like one [/quote]Tpia at it again.

This is not news.

However I am happy that SOME people have the brain to understand my intentions concerning what I posted instead of turning this into a BANANA REPUBLIC AFFAIR!!

OLORUN WA GBA WA O!

madlady:
I suppose I could guess Sudan ,

I don't really believe[b] in your theory [/b] I think it's a coincidence.

By the way I do not know what "dem lock you for house" means, could it be madness

You are not required to believe anything at all my dear. If you postulate it is coincidence then by all means that is your fair opinion/viewpoint

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=411783.msg5971637#msg5971637 date=1272550777]^^ what bothers some of us is your sudden metamorphosis from genuine observations to something else.

Dont take it personal.[/quote]On the contrary . There is nothing personal at all. It is quite the reverse if you ask me. Can you explain the something else cause again I can't comprehend your point. .You are loosing me here Tpia.

This whole MONKEY business is driving me quite BANANAS, if you ask me cause some of you are overly sensitive.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=411783.msg5971596#msg5971596 date=1272550329]seriously, you should give it a rest, because this will get you nowhere.

So you can bend over backwards to prove your monkey photos resemble nonwhites, but as soon as you see a picture which looks white, you make up excuses. Why cant the same apply to your other pictures?

anyway, the monkey was named by people more learned than you, and yes, they were white. Seemingly less prejudiced than you as well.[/quote]So what bothers some of you is that I didn't include a picture of a white fellow Well here you go Tpia. Happy now!!

utterly ridiculous!!

madlady:
No I can't.

The lady's extremely beautiful, she's also very majestic.

e be like say dem lock you for house if you can't at least point to one locality of the pics.( when I say locality I mean region)

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=411783.msg5971452#msg5971452 date=1272548582]@ morpheus

I helped you out with some of your homework:[/quote]THe only thing wey make that monkey resemble oyinbo na the style of the bear bear. shave it off and then compare lol

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=411783.msg5971452#msg5971452 date=1272548582]na fear dey catch you? Or are you genuinely convinced non-whites are the ones of monkey origin. Even Darwin didnt make that distinction. He said all humans, not some, descended from monkeys.[/quote]According to the expansive theory of evolution (not darwin),  Human beings evolved from chimps and apes not MONKEYS!!!
I never made that assertion in the first place. this was a mere observation of PRIMATES.

If dem no get cold water drink for wey una dey, make una tell me lol,

more Africans. Can you identify their localities?

@ oyinda
The below are "general" representations of people from certain localities of Africa. Suffice to say one can identify them simply by their general characteristics specific to their locality and to prove this I will not label their specific origins but most people will be able to identify their localites.

[quote author=oyinda. link=topic=411783.msg5969299#msg5969299 date=1272521053]because i don't find it funny?
besides, the fact that you had to put "now, i'm not racist but. . " in the title shows that u understand the flaw in the thread. it's not a joke plz stop it. your promoting rubbish. ppl will actually believe this stuff from reading the posts.[/quote]There is no flaw in the premise. Its an observation not a conclusion. A scientific Hypothesis and not a scientific fact.

The "racist quote" was used in anticipation of people like you who have light bulbs flash in their head and are sensitive about racial overtones in comparisons of humans to monkeys.

This thread was initially moved from the RACISM, TRIBALISM section. Someone thought it was obviously funny and moved it to the jokes section.

[quote author=oyinda. link=topic=411783.msg5969309#msg5969309 date=1272521357]you are actually trying to make an "argument" for your ridiculousness?

pls tell me why this west african mangabey monkey DOES NOT resemble the west african human below it.
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[img]http://primatology.files./2008/05/conchita-white-naped-mangabey-1.jpg[/img]
https://www.ghanabase.com/photos/news/200803/Christian%20Love%201.jpg
it blows my mind as well. I thought morpheus was smarter than that!!![/quote]Again you simply are missing the point entirely, my dear. There are several species of monkeys within Africa that do not necessarily resemble their human counter parts. However your point was that the Humans in the pictures are not representative of the Human populations in their localities.

I gave you an answer to that. YES! YES! YES! and a resounding YES! they do when comparing them to the monkeys depicted in my first post.

Your pics above do not say much only that there are a series of of monkeys in Africa that do not look like the populations of Humans in their locality

Stop fighting a loosing battle simply trying to come off as intellectual. It don't work for me babes.

Maurinho. We hail thee!!!

COme coach Naija nah!

be like say them pay this referee money o!

Iyineda:
^^^ Wow. . . The worst part is that you actually insist your logic is perfectly sound. Staggering. https://i49.tinypic.com/2mgr4w2.gif

I repeat. No the chosen man in random pic DOES NOT AND CANNOT represent one people. We are still too different physically even if we share similar traits (skin colour, nose shape, etc.).

I was born and raised in Nigeria for 10 years. However, last time I came to the country I was asked SEVERAL times by colleagues what my country of origin was - and by people who are familiar with foreign faces because this happened in a large oil company I underwent an internship in.
Believe me or not I got some people guessing "Egypt, Black Arabian, non African, half-caste", etc. My mum is Igbo, my dad Yoruba. But apparently I don't "look like the common Nigerian". . . if that means anything.

Conclusion: generalization = form of manicheanism.

You need to go check your dad or mums DNA sample. You are obviously an anomaly of sorts,

Again if comparing Humans to Humans one can definitively use the arguement you postulate above in coparing two individuals from the same locality they can obviously differ but you are comparing monkey populations phenotypical facial characteristics to Human population facial characteristics. We are not talking about color, craniometrics or body morphology

The men depicted in the pictures are representative of the localities they come from. The example of yourself is an irrelevant sampling.

Case in point I could have used either one of these indian men for my sampling even though they look different from each other,

harakiri:
Are you still replying these people?They will deny the truth to the bitter end.BBC reports both good and bad.If there is good in Nigeria, they will show it.If there is bad, they will report it.Look at how they are ranting and ranting as if they pictures and videos were photo shopped.Are they not REAL? Self denial is a mind crippling disease indeed. This should be a good motive to improve the settings of the country but even the citizens would rather deny the truth.And we wonder why the govt doesn't care about the masses.How can they care when even the citizens that should be agitating for change only do so behind close doors.Do you know how many political office holders browse through this forum? It's from idiotic postings like these self denying boomboclats that makes them feel that Nigerians are doing alright.

End of!

I'd like to see some links of the good stuff BBC has reported about Nigeria?

Iyineda:
The logic of the thread/topic is flawed because, granted that in most pics there are strong ressemblances between the indigenous men and monkeys of a given region, you cannot extend the comparison to the other men of those particular regions. Are you with me?

In short, yes the man you chose in one pic looks similar to the monkey of the region he lives in, but that man DOES NOT represent all the other men in said region. So, no. The 'phenomenon' you're refering too isn't actually noteworthy.

Why do you guys like to look for arguements where there really isn't one.

To answer the above bolded part. The answer is: to the Human eye, Yes he does represent all the other men in a given locality. We are not comparing humans to humans here are we?

This answer is too simple

Nigerians within Nigeria borders will prefer to marry someone of their ethnic back ground or closer to their area of origin because of proximity.

Nigerians who spread out across Africa will inevitably take on wives from these areas they settle in but probably look for traits that are similar to their cultural values. Some Nigerians are polygamous in culture and so do not see a big issue with taking on second wives if the opportunity arises. it depends on the individual

Nigerians outside of Africa will inevitably marry people from these regions depending on their values and customs.

Bottom line it depends on your value system and if it is compatible,though some people chuck this fact out the window. They everly regret it when they get much older.

IF YOU ARE AFRAID OR DOUBTFUL OF MARRYING A NIGERIAN THEN YOU ARE NOT READY TO MARRY ONE.

Simple as ABC

Normally I always site the BBc''s imperialist news format but in this instance, This documentary was excellent and and eye opener even for the average Nigerian who lives in Sokoto state as to the harsh realities of the city of Lagos.

In regards people who are complaining that the BBC's portrayal is negative and creates stereotypes. I say to the people who will percieve lagos and Nigeria as a whole based on this documentary should be labeled S.T.U.P.I.D, why because in this day and age with information streaming out in every direction via youtube and the internet it is easy for one to surf  and acquire substantial knowledge about a country as a whole.

If someone chooses in this day and age to ask you a question like is the whole of lagos like that? or do they have Street lights in Nigeria? You should either ignore that indivdual as somewhat of a DAFT or SLAP THEM RIGHT ACROSS THE FACE FOR BEIND SO S.T.U.P.I.D

chosen04:
Are you saying that president Graddafi was "smartly insane/mad" when he recommended that naija should be partitioned?

Smartly insane is an oxymoron and Gaddafi has nothing to do with Becoem rich thougt both of them might share symptoms of paranoia.

Becomerich appears strange when he is yapping about maps and satellite images. Very incoherant.

cap28:
well whites will always try to justify their continued subjugation of blacks by labelling us as less intelligent, this has been going on for centuries, slavery was justified by the white slave owners and merchants because they claimed it was necessary to turn heathen blacks away from their primitive idol worshipping ways, they even used their bible to justify the atrocities that were meted out on black slaves, saying that it was necessary in order to "civilise" us. Now in the 21st century we still have so called academics coming up with this racist ideology.

Until we as a race of people learn to do for ourselves and not look to the white man as our alpha and omega we will continuously be exposed to this our ancestors built the pyramids a feat so outstanding that present day skyscrapers all over the world are modelled after its structure and design.

Tell this to the illiterate leaders we have in Africa who are sick with the disease of greed and stupidity, They simply perpetuate the stereotype

Monkey giving peace sign

Oh, sorry this one na ape, My bad

@TPIA

More monkeys

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=411783.msg5963987#msg5963987 date=1272445888]Anyone from anywhere, can look like any animal you want to name. I pointed out the dog thingy earlier.[/quote]To be fair then let me just post a bunch of pics of Monkeys and let the viewers judge for themselves if the monkeys look like their human continental counter parts since you are accusing me of suggestive picture trolling

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=411783.msg5963987#msg5963987 date=1272445888]some eskimos are dark skinned and they live far from the equator. In India, you have both light and dark skinned people who are native to the region.[/quote]Eskimos are migrants and have spent less time geologically evolving in cold regions. They are closely related to the native indians of the Americas who have retained pigmentation. Studies also point to the issue of dark-skinned Eskimos to their traditional diet rich in fish and other seafood, which are high in vitamin D, sothey haven't had to undergo the same reduction in pigmentation that would otherwise be required in such high altitudes.

As regards indians. The Indo-europeans are much different from the original settlers of southern india and sri lanka who are closer to the equator and darker skinned. these include the Dravidians, tamil and the native Andamese. There has been a caste system going on in india which expresses these differences if one chooses to observe this. All you need to do is travel to the rural areas of india to observe.

Please see below dravidians, indo europeans(bollywood figures)







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RSA:
^^Zille and other whites fought for blacks to have certain human rights,but not to rule South Africa as we know it now.They where against one person one vote policy,they think blacks are not capable of ruling.They gave us plenty of examples from Africa,she is just a bitter old racist woman.

In South Africa when Julius Malema sings struggle songs,it makes the headlines but when AWB members sing Old National Anthem and fly the old aapartheid flag is ok,and it wont make any headline in any newspaper.
When a farmer is killed,it makes headline for the whole week and we are reminded that 3000 of them have been killed since 1994,but when a farmer drag a farmworker/blackperson on his bakkie for two kilometer until he die or when one shoot at a 8 year black boy 'mistaking him for a baboon or a white farmer's son who goes to a township and start shooting at blacks ,or the fact that since 1949 to date over 10 million people died in the hand of farmers.You'll never hear Zille speaking about this issues.
But she is good at talking about what ANC is not doing,or reminding everyone who care to listen how we are going Zimbabwean route.
Yes there are incompetent people in the ANC,but it is our duty to make them competent.I believe in giving people a chance

Fair enough. I see your point.

maedan:
By the way, what has racism got to do with your "theory"? For every region you put men and monkeys side by side, you made no insinuations as to which was good or bad, wrong or right. So where is the racism? Because they see no pure white face, people feel slighted. Every issue is racist these days on Nairaland.

DON'T KNOW? the people who say there is no caucasian persons face in the mix are jsut complaining
I gave them the best plausible answer

[quote author=oyinda. link=topic=411783.msg5963118#msg5963118 date=1272423163]morpheus why r u promoting this rubbish pseudo science?[/quote]WHY DON'T YOU JUST HAVE A GOOD LAUGH AND MOVE ON.

ITS NOT THAT SERIOUS,