₦airaland Forum

RSA:
Mr Mo what are you turning into now?

Are you still planning to come for the world cup.I still stand by my words,It will be an honour to host.And one of the thing that I want you to experience is a Joburg to Cape Town drive,1400 kilometers.And also we should do our villages and see Ubuntu at work.South Africa is not Hillbrow,Alexandra and all other squater camps where you find desperate poor people.There is more South Africa than what you read.

I know that by hosting you,and knowing you,I will have hosted Nairaland
.
You'll be welcomed with open hands.
Yes I will post some soon,I think I have downloaded plenty from Estern Cape,esspecially Qunu.Mandela's birthplace.

I appreciate your hospitality. I will be arriving with a group of Nigerians,a few cameronian and liberian football fans and we will be based mainly in Johanesburg trying to catch games in the adjourning areas of rustenberg,polokwane, Pretoria and possibly bloomfontein.

unfortunately  we will not be able to make it to Durban or the cape. The distance is too far by car or the shosholoza train and the flights are ridiculous at this time.

I might make it to the mpumalanga area again and possibly kruger national park but not for sure.

Trust me I have seen much of your country on several occasions and will always admit its beauty any day anytime. In my travels, I have seen its highs and its lows as well, however I don't like silly Nigerians who have never step foot in SA and are misinformed bout other complexities of the SA society or economy where it concerns Nigerians or the ones who live there and talk a lot of rubbish as well.

If my plans change as time approaches I will definitely let you know,

Oba234:
wow, I can't wait to visit South Africa this summer. I am studying abroad there there summer. South Africa is the best country in Africa followed by Botswana. People that denied that SouthAfrica is well advance than other african countries need to chill of that haterade juice.

AZZ licker!!!

Sagamite:
People with Diploma in IT? And that are making a honest living not looting public funds?

I don't even think they would get a Zain call centre job.

I know people without a Diploma who are driving e class mercedez benz without having to loot funds to do so. 

Most Nigerians in SA with the same qualifications are engaged in the same hustle jobs as they are here in Naija for your information. The difference is the markets and disposable income of the populous in South Africa are enough to sustain them. You don't expect the same odds when the Nigerian population is three times that of SA

RSA:
Now this is what I call a Nigerian swagger,in South Africa we will say this is AYOBA!

Jokes aside,Mr Mo. One question for you.

Do you think this mentality wich you clasify as
'The fight mechanism creates a resilient character who uses domineering aggression and arrogance to survive the flight mechanism makes an individual leave his/her environment in search of enviroments in which he has or can manipulate to create an advantage'
Is still relevent for Nigerians when they go to countries where law and order is upholded,or where the goverment is playing active role in developing its people?

Personally I feel it is very relevant to retain this survival mechanism only that it should be harnessed for the good and not the bad. No one is saying Nigerians should break the laws in any other country. In fact it is very evident taht once out of the hustle and bustle nature of Nigeria, most people adapt as most humans do to the enviroment in which they are presented and prosper. Its like nuclear energy, the correct harenessing of this energy coul illluminate the world but the wrong step could cause a disastrous catastrophe,

Because of the agressive nature of business in general(don't let anyone fool you business is very aggressive)for a Nigerian to become too complacent and docile renders him/her at a disadvantage in the world stage. The more obedient you are to a system that you unfortunatley do not control or do not have much say the more you will be disadvantged in the long run of things,

My two cents,

[quote author=1,2 link=topic=376796.msg5588100#msg5588100 date=1267154328]Then educate us, stop telling us that Nigeria is the best country in Africa.[/quote]Don't misquote me. I never claimed the above. What I did was explain the Nigerian swagga. You are the one not listening.

[quote author=1,2 link=topic=376796.msg5588100#msg5588100 date=1267154328]We want to learn more about this nation, thats what you should do. If i am educating you about South Africa, dont dissagree with me because i know South Africa better than you do. The problem with you morpheus24, you don't listen. You think you know every thing. Its like you've been to every country in Africa.[/quote]Actually I have which is why I have enough knowledge to express my viewpoint on what I have experienced and seen.

In regards education. I suggest you hop on the next plane and start visiting other nations as well and when you get there actually mingle with the local people and feel what they feel so you can understand what African life is all about.

The last time I was in your country I wasn't chilling in the fancy hotesl at sandton and surfing on the cape shores, rather you could find me in the townships at a local meat market in the evening mingling with the locals who were enjoying a cold beer and some T^shesa Nyama bro,

dondada1:
YESS BOSS

I have lived in this country fron the age of 19 in 2002, and it has giving me everything as a Nigerian,
my beautiful south african wife and a daughter and a paying job at HP south africa,
at the age of 22 with just a Diploma in IT infrastructure I drive the new C Class and live in a well furnished 2 bed appartment: if i was in Naija I would not have achived this much thus far; I dont think I would be where I am if i was in Naija.
This country has blessed me.Forget Europe. RSA is DA BOMB, no wonder the adverts say SOUTH AFRICA ITS POSSIBLE

Whats wrong with you. Lots of people drive the new c class and live in furnished 2 bed room apartments. Na only lagos wey you live in.

Please come to Abuja and see and I am not talking about Minister's children,

finemocha:
maybe if africa was safer then yes i would spend my vaca in africa. traveling is stressful, the options are limited, and im not carrying my backside to South africa where they are constantly shooting people for no good reason. plus they have white skin complexes there anyway. it africa, nigeria etc can fix all these problems then yes, maybe i and my friends can roll in for some fun. until then, cancun here i come

You are making excuses. How many tourist have you heard that died during their vacation to African countries from crime. If that were the case places like the desert festivals in mali, the sea sides of zanzibar, the ocean views of the cape and the islander destinations fot he cape verde would not be attractive.


just say you are misinformed and don't know where to go instead of all this gibberish about unsaftey and so on.

Abi you think them mexicans actually like you going to cancun

bandiejay:
what is there in africa to look? The Asorock? lagos Ibadan express road? kai? lastman? police taking 20naira? bar beach? may be am making a mistake somebody should explain futher what is there to look or may be Jos where hausa man will cut your head for suya

The post says Africa not necessarilly Nigeria. Haven't you seen exotic locations in Africa before. if not We can show you here.

gallivant:
and so much when it comes to African solidarity, "my brother"!

i am all for solidarity bro. just educating you on understanding how Nigerians thick,

[quote author=nice-guy10 link=topic=403489.msg5586255#msg5586255 date=1267125003]Poster, i know for sure that you are a black South African, can you post pics where Blacks Lives? Or better stil pics of Soweto town.[/quote]What;s the difference> we all know everywhere in the world has ghetto's, That;s not the point of the pic forum,

gallivant:
No.I am Kenyan and your earlier statement was uncalled-for.

Precisely my point. ,

benom:
@morpheus24
You kind of sound frustrated. I doubt if u are a nigerian cause we never get frustrated.

Just for the records, i am a graduate and an IT specialist. I work for Nigeria's biggest bank and I come from a very humble background.

You cannot excel when you carry the problems of 150 million people on your head. All i advice u to do is to stop whining like you a currently doing, believe in your capabilities as a true Nigerian (if u are one) and exhibit the rugged Naija sp4

4 ma guys in South Africa, Naija rocks and if u doubt it, then pay me a visit.

I am very far, far, far away from frustration bros. And the reason i asked if you were Nigerian would be if you truely were one you would realize the nature/nuture of the average Nigeria.

Most other Afrian countries are very small in number compared to Nigerias densely populated land mass. The population size adds to the event of continiuos struggle for limited resources amongst it populous thereby creating a survival mentality of fight or flight. The fight mechanism creates a resilient character who uses domineering aggression and arrogance to survive the flight mechanism makes an individual leave his/her environment in search of enviroments in which he has or can manipulate to create an advantage.(@ RSA this analysis for you is for free)




Much can be said of the average South African in analysis of certain behaviour types as well. On close examination of the average South African's boistruous nature in terms of music and dance one can deduce that this trait is ingrained as a result of culture and enviromental circumstance.

ever wondered why SA are the best singers in terms of Acapella?

RSA:
Yes I will also like you to elaborate?

@Benom I like how you think,and so far I agree with you on everything you said.Like 1,2 have said where have you been?

how many times will I continue to elaborate to you RSA. You of all people should know that 150 milliion people lef to fend for themselves in such a small, harsh, and constricting enviroment will develop a 'swagg" nature once they have achieved what they believe to be coined material success.

I will not analyze for you that fact anymore.

As for benom

you obviously are very young or ain't a naija person,

RSA:
I read somewhere where you said you are living in South Africa,let me tell you one thing,how about you go back to where you come from? Better one go back to you mother's womb D.i.c.khead.

Just keep posting your pics. There will be ignorant people till kingdom come.

gallivant:
Please elaborate further!

Are you Nigerian?

[quote author=1,2 link=topic=376796.msg5548830#msg5548830 date=1266622677]Yes RSA, you are wright, I was a bit generalizing, but majority of them do that. With regard to Arrogance, i aggree with you. They have realise that you dont go to a foreign country and pretend you own it after you have taken the streets. I think the arrogance was because of money, 5 years ago this guys were making money on the street. They drove latest model cars. I think they thought they were better than the locals and they came here within short space of time, they were rich. The arrogance was to show us we are here for 2 to 3 years and have made and you(South Africans) have been here for years but still struggling.

Now the police are catching up with their pace. I think what the police managed to detroy the network by focusing their attention to the King Pin. Look at the guy who was dealing with wife of a minister in KZN, what an embarrasment to that poor guy that his wife could be used by this Nigerian Drug Dealer. Its greed, it goes to show that she could even cheat him to get cash, maybe she has been sleeping with this thug. Thank god he is behind bars. There are some two women who were arrested in Brazil because they were snaggling this guy's drugs to Brazil. Now they gonna rot in jail. The guy seems so relax, he was thinking he could bribe himself out of this situation, maybe he has done it some times, but this time around he won't get a chance. He is in for good.[/quote]That swagger you call 'arrogance" is not going anywhere anytime soon, its ingrained in us, whcih is why we prosper. Take that away from Nigerians and we are just like the rest of other Africans answering 'yes sir" 'no sir",

Fhemmmy:
TO be honest with you, you have good and real points.
However, with the case in court and all that, it is not that easy for him to carry out a lot of things.
The only think i think he wasted time on was to get rid of some of the die hard fan of yaradua, he shd have sent them packing fast and change them all to people he can trust.
However as an Acting president, there is little he could do.
I bet, he never see this coming that They will repackage the ghost of yaradua into the nation like that, and that was why they never told him, so that, he will be caught unaware.

Which shows his lack of leadership qualities. A good strategist would have anticipated this move and prepared for it after being advised.

Fhemmmy:
Hello Sir, you could send all your armies and all your men to go and fight, if He is not with you, you will fail and fall flat on your butt and the enemy will be the one that will even safe your a$$.

The opponent with the best strategy and planning coppled with the best weapons will always win. Law of nature 101. Applies to every living thing

God has layed the law down for you now use it and prosper.

Abi you are waiting for invisible angels to come and smite your enemy for you.

Keep waiting o!. As for me my eyes are open and I can see clearly,

telmemore:
Should we still be expecting any confirmation of him been in the country when for the past months he has been a ghost. Imaging a president been smuggled into the country like one forbidden(contra-bound)drug, even all this while that he was said to be in Saudi, there has been no access to him and now again in his soil land still behind the screen, I think in a morrow day or weeks we will see it on the news that the president is demise which I think has occurred all these while they've been playin us.
Nigeria!!! when will we have a "Leader" instead of all these "player". let us just pray for the peace of the country that God who only can change destiny should come and intervein

50 years He hasn't intervene. Don't expect it anytime soon.

God helps those who help themselves. for God's sake help yourself first.

[quote author=t.truth link=topic=403229.msg5577625#msg5577625 date=1267028479]Nonsense , If he has recovered why was he brought back with an ambulance ? He is either dead or he is a complete vegetable.

Whatever maybe the case. We don't want Yar'Adua any more. He does not represent the people. His unwillingness to fight corruption, shows he doesn't care about the common masses. Ever since he was sworn in, he did not achieved anything, he has been going from one medical treatment to another. Northerners have destroyed Nigeria and now they want to turn Nigeria into Saudi Colony   .

God have mercy !!![/quote]Nigeria is run by a mafia and the citizens are merely subjects to the ruling class who are plunderers with no shame.

If yardua were not incapacitated his Vp would be able to meet with him immediately and if he truly worked for the interest of Nigerians he would resign know he has about a year left in power like Thabo Mbeki did South Africa at the will of his party and people in general with minimal conflict.

Fhemmmy:
I agree with you, but we shd not move till we are sure He is with us. . .

When is that , and how will you know when it is time. Religious sentiments are killing Nigerians.

[quote author=ebi_oloye link=topic=403229.msg5577560#msg5577560 date=1267028096]hey you can imagine number one  man in this country call nigeria coming into this country like a theif in the night? were are we going to in this country what kind  of nation is this god oh i pray god to come and rescue his chidrens from the hands of this rubish leaders they even colected phones from the nigeria army on duty post they shot down the power at the airport and put on generator just for public not to see the dead body at night na wow for nigeria[/quote]Yardua is in a coma and cannot speak. It is impossible for a president not to give recorded statments and if in fairly good helath what do you need an ambulance at the airport for to whisk him to the presidentidal villa

Even Bin laden wey dey hide from people is porported to have given several speeches ,

Fhemmmy:
I say Amen to that . . .however, if God come to Nigeria will He find 100 faithful for him to do his work?
I am not talking of the church goers oh

lets keep waiting for God to come help us. Most of you will die not seeing that day come to pass

"God helps those who help themselves"

otawa:
yep. thats why they call him Vice President.

He was over-zealous and betrayed his sick Boss.

Never take over until you are 100% sure the other guy is not coming back.

You will see loyalty now switching back to Yaradua, the executive President.

Are you listening to this otawa who is obviously an aboki affiliate scared of power shift to the south south of Nigeria and has no understanding of the jurisdiction of the consitution of Nigeria

He/she bleives we should still be runnig area boy politics.

otawa:
You are surely day-dreaming.

So long as Yaradua can SPEAK and recognise people. He does not even need to walk. He has final SAY.

Yaradua is the excutive President of Nigeria!

He can have his cabinet meetings by his 'sick bed side in Aso Rock'

I weep for Nigeria with people like you who don't demonstrate the capacity to reason with common sense.

How can a sick/dying man rule a country with over 150million people.

How can a president not be physiclly seen for close to 100 days

how can a president sneak into his own country in the middle of the night with no formal announcement

You call this actions justifiable by one who has executive authority over Nigeria.

I wish i had the means to fight guerilla warfare. I would be plotting one now.

Beaf:
Have you seen the amount of communication from the US state dept and Africom on todays development? They don't want Yar Adua's presence fouling any gains Nigeria has made in the past two weeks. They didn't send such a powerful delegation just last week for nothing (Assistant Secretary of the Bureau of African Affairs, Johnnie Carson, Ms Rice, President Bush). Progressive Nigerians can count on a powerful friend.

The cabal just played a joke on themselves. . . It will last as long as this evening, then begin to fade.

Unfortunately I don't think they hold much sway as far as this last tactic is concerned. Yardua's presence in the country is a strong play and will both  mobilize the north and undermine Jonathans powers until 2011

I think this game will continue well into next year if they can keep this gimmick up to save their azzez's