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kgr28:NO our woman have strong Nyansh from all the hardship that exists under the tropical sun in the equator that is why when we see soft and big nyansh you inherited from your Khoisan ancestors we are drooling over it at first sight. SA ladies are nice in the beginning but many of them are from bad backgrounds with drunken fathers, multiple baby daddies, loosness, alcoholic households, unfaithfulness. Any naija that messes with them long term is taking very big risk of divorce down the line. |
TMKsouth:Please note SOuth Africa is a 1st world surrounding by a third world, don't ever forget that fact! PS, a simple look at your townships and the amount of rapes that go on there will bring your SABC down to that third world level in a second. |
IronGalaxy:Good point you make here however "general" observations as you mention above are "stereotypes" and are only comprehended by elementary minds like most of your SA folk who have never crossed the borders of Limpopo. There are 180 million people in Nigerian not even 50% percent of them fall under this stereotype but you are too stupid to acknowledge this FACT. |
kgr28:Na that BIG SA NYANSH they cause am, it is not that you guys are pretty in the face. |
TMKsouth:How can I be mischievous in my own backyard. Not possible. |
IronGalaxy:Point 1. Compare apples with apples so as far as being "cosmopolitan" lets just exclude your "european" population because their history, culture and economics are not the same. Point 2. If we are to focus on African migrants alone, the most threatening of the set are Nigerians, for the following reasons: 1. They are the most visible. 2. The most enterpreneural (close to zero Nigerian works as a house boy, bus boy, gardners, dog walkers etc) 3. The most independent. They do not ask for handouts. You and the your fellow Ghanians hate this fact and therefore want zero competition. If this were not the case then again these Nigerians would be Negligeable much like the congolese, The rwandans, The zimbabweans, Zambians, Malawians who are a majority domestic workers, dog walkers, bar tenders etc in your country. |
IronGalaxy:What else could it be. You do not want the competition. The presence of these "Nigerians" constitutes that otherwise they would be negligeable. Your government has the power to stop giving these Nigerians Visa's. Why don't they? Your government has the power to not issue work permits to these Nigerians but they keep dong it. Why don;t they stop? Your government has the power to fund Home Affairs to increase deportations of criminal elements that are Nigerians, Why don't they. because they are busy sharing tenders and embezzling money while they distract you with a semi skilled worthless Nigerian on the streets of Joburg and drill it into your psyche that these are the people ruining your country. You my friend are a buffoon! Bantu education is very bad! |
OasisT:Bros leave that Iron galaxy guy. He is one of those SA's who doe snot know anything happening outside of his country and just soaks up twitter news. The boy is a dummy! |
AreaFada2:Well said. Tell those boyz to come back from SA and Ghana and with immediate effect cut diplomatic relations. |
YEBOmadiba:There are a million of us there to come steal your women from you, infiltrate your society and destroy you. |
IronGalaxy:You are an idiot. You are jealous of the success of the people in your country and not the country itself. A foreign people come into your land and become rich, your people are still there looking for jobs. |
TMKsouth:This TMKsouth, you are an instigator and always want to start trouble on Nairaland. My eyes are on you! |
Where is that foolish AKA wey dey pick fight with Oluwa Burna! |
donnie:I already did but you are too thick to see it. 1. The sources you quote are pre the discovery of DNA that corroborates migration patterns. 2. You are misconstruing the lines in those excerps. There is no mention of Bantus migrating to Africa from the Levant, what is being said in each of those write ups is that there were indeede "JEWS" from the levant who migrated into Northern Africa and then into the IBerian Pennisula, Once the Arabs were driven out , these Sephardic jews were expelled out of Europe into colonies possesed by England ie. ST thomas and other protectorates in Africa. There was a simulataneous event of Slave trading that was occurring in West Africa at this time and somehow you join the two together. You are indeed a great fabricator. Again DNA can trace migratory movements that is how I know these people below are not African even thought they look it.
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donnie:Any one with and IQ above 80 can see that you are dyslexic. When you read that bones were found of dead Africans in Europe you extrapolate that information to mean they were Jews then in the same breath another writer tells you Jews migrated into Africa and assimilated with the people that already existed in Africa. i would call that as having a very wild imagination. So i am guessing the Africans who inhabited this region before the arrival were E3b1A carriers who spoke another language and then the jews that now migrated into Africa from the Levant speaking Bantu languages were also E3b1A at the same time and they just came down melted together with this original Africans and then subplanted the original Afrians language family and made them speak Bantu. HAHAHAHAHAHa! You my friend have an IQ that is below par. |
donnie:Your story collapses upon itself each time you present more write ups. which is why I say you are extracting information from Ben Amins cult. 1.The write up insists that there were people who lived in the congo before the arrival of these black emigration Jews, Who were these people? Hamites, Bantu, the first wave of Jews who began to speak Bantu? 2. The writer is accurate in stating there were groups of people who migrationg from west Asia to North Africa who were dark in complexion as are many original Yemenis people who live in the same region today. Bejas are also Dark skinned people. Also notice how the writer differentiates these groups from the "negroes" a fact i explained when I mentioned the problem these writers had when they began to discover other peoples that inhabited the interior of Africa and were trying to differentitate based on different appearances. in comes the discovery of genetics which supercedes this physical designations that goes into the blood and very core of humans to discover the links that truly bind people. If you are not aware genes have been transferred continious across Africans that lived in border countries with other continents hence the physical differentiations from their counter parts in the interior of Africa. These 17th century and 18th centur writers were not aware of this and so second guessed their best based on physical observation. Again if your writer is correct in his analysis. Who are these people then, I know you are scratching your head trying to figure this one out eh, may Yah will reveal it to you soon.
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donnie:If you know who Josephus is and you believe he knew what he was categorizing then who are these people below according to Josephus's classfication? Negroid? Hamite?
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donnie:The quotes that are highlighted in the excerps you put there are being interpreted "out of context" to fit your narrative. What those articles narrate are the expulsion of Sephardic Jews who lived in the Iberian pennisula and also communities in North Africa as well. the date you see 1471 coincides with the spanish inquisitions just after christendom had won back the territories of the Iberian pennisula and North africa from the Berber/Arab incursion. Again the date is in the 13th century which is the 1400's, another direct extraction from Ben ammins cult like hebrew israelite jargon. These dark skinned Portuguese you refer to would and could not be E3b1A as there were already West African populations that lived in the areas anyone was expelled to. Those excerps also document the beginnings of the trans atlantic slave trade. who's victims were mostly West AFrican ethnic groups. You are indeed a fabricator of information. These events are documented history from the 13th century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhambra_Decree |
donnie:DNA IS A FACT. IT CANNOT LIE. IF the test your DNA sequence and that of your sibling, you will get a 50% match from one of your parents every single time they run that test. If they test you against your cousin , there will be a 25% hit every single time. If they test against your Grandfather it will be a 25% match. No ones' DNA has vanished from the earth, they simply have been absorbed into a representation of different peoples today. I can give you numerous examples of this. The people of South of America carry the remainder of the DNA sequences of all the Native American/Indian groups that existed there thousands of years ago. These people no longer look like the indians that existed thousands of years ago and do not even speak the languages that existed back then but the aboriginal population still lives in the DNA markers with this "Hispanic people" You my friend are trapped in religion and cannot see what is presented to you as fact. You can believe what you want about the 144,000 if you want I cannot stop you but it will be futile for you to refute fact with fiction. You will fail every single time. What we see is what we can believe. I travel in the physical realm which authenticates facts, you travel in that which requires "faith" And your constant reference to the lying mainstream media for info regarding the Jews or so-called levant makes me consider my conversions with you a waste of time. But for the sake of others let me school you a bit.... Ancient historical sources and journals have in good authority that ancient biblical Isrealites migrated down to sub-saharan Africa. Many others were shipped to the Coast of Guinea (West African coast), Angola, Sao-Tome, Kongo etc. from Spain and Portugal. Remember your earlier reference to the name Lagos as Portugese. Yes, they put the slaves there and at other locations along the coasts same regions where they later returned to take slaves and ship to the Americas. Prove my sources wrong if you can and please do so with ancient sources, Not 20th or 21st century.[/quote] |
donnie:Hamite is a misnomer coined by Josephus who used one of the three sons of Noah to categorize the dark skinned people around him. historians later He was limited in his understanding of the peoples that populated the entire earth at the time so used bibilical references to name the people around him. Historian later usurped this name to describe the dark skinned people that lived around Egypt and East Africa put found themselves in a conundrum when they crossed the Sahara to find other types of Dark skinned peoples who's languages were very different from the so called "Hamites" they encountered. They therefore forged a new identity for these new groups of people anthropologically coining them "Negro' which is just a latin word. meaning "black". They even ran into more problems as they ventured further into Africa and noticed there were other groups who did not resemble the so called new category they designated "Negro". The Khoisan-bushmen were red-brown skin with very different craniometric and physical features from these negroids and since they were stuck in their own faults, names these new group of people "capoids" to different them from the Negroes. Nilo-saharan people are named after the Nile river and the Sahara desert that cuts across Africa. Kushites are named after the Kingdom of Kush ad also encompass people who speak Afro-Asiatic langauges including chadians and Hausa people as their languages are derived from the original Kushitic people. |
Olu317:1. I said they have Africoid features but are genetically Asian when you test their YDNA, the MTdna and their complete autosomal DNA. 2. I don't what you mean by humanoid development. We are humans and not "human-oid". A humanoid would be something that is trying to imitate a human and can only come after human developtment and not before it. |
donnie:It has been corrected. |
Olu317:1. No where do I say the so having European DNA in you makes you a non Israel in reference to those who occupy the Jewish state of Israel. 2. What are these factors beyond my understanding? Olu317:I have no idea what you just said above. Who are Yoruba different to in this other deep analysis? PS construct your thoughts more cohesively, they come off disjointed. |
donnie:Let's educate the people shall we, You don't have to reply to me directly, its inconsequential. This is not the answer to my question however we will tackle the above one at a time. 1. First and foremost Somali's are not Nilotic peoples. They are Cushitic peoples that speak an Afro-Asiatic language closely related to the Oromo peoples of Ethiopia. T 2. The Bantu's you refer to which are the largest minority group within the Somali family bring the E3b1a male haplogroup into the Somali grouping via the Arab slave trade. This group of Somali bantu's autosomal DNA is however very much Somali in TOTALITY!. What this means if you don't understand is that the male ancestors of these Bantu slaves married some Somali women and therefore produced offspring who are indeed genetically Somali irregardless of the politics within that grouping. 3. Please note this fact. Haplogroup A, B and E3b1b are older mutations than E3b1a. What this implies is that the ancestors of present day copts (ancient egyptians) their neighbours to the south i.e. Nubians(Sandawa, Bejas); Nilotics (Sudanese Nuers,); Cushitics (Somali, Ethiopians, Hausa) were present before the E3b1A allele (West African-Niger congo- Bantu groups.) emerged This means Bantu's are the youngest of all Africans to arrive on the scene. Bantu's are however the most successful of all these groups to populate the continent of Africa which is why they constitute the most prevalent Phenotype. 4. Yoruba, Igbo, Efiks and Ibibio are closely related to each other and do share the common male ancestor who carried the E3b1A mutations, however all West Africans and All Bantu people do not carry this YDNA marker. Many West Africans carry other YDNA variants. In conclusion, if we backward engineer mutations it shows thatE3b1A is a purely West African mutation which means it is derived and was born in the West, If it was born in the Levant at some time in history and then travelled down to West Africa it would have left its mark pre- any slave trade. This is the reason I keep asking you to give concrete time lines of this movement and if there was one wave or multiple waves. You will try to circumvent this fact by probably saying that Israelites were charged not to interbreed with other groups, however this would be a false attempt simply because there were 12 tribes of Israel, of the 12, 10 disappeared into the DNA of various groups of people in the Levant such as the Samaritans, East Africa such as the Beta Ethiopians and possibly the Lemba and West Asia. The remaining Kingdom of Judea that was destroyed by the Romans dispersing the remaining peoples across the area as well. donnie:This is the same script by Ben Ami from the US. You are reading corruptions of his teachings. Genetics is fact. It corroborates movements of people across the world. It is a blood signature that cannot tell lies or fabricate stories. It does not rely on folktale and somber stories of which you continue to pass as face. If Bantu peoples ever emanated from the Levant their marks would be left there centuries later. it would have left its mark on its way to West Africa. It did not. No fossils tested indicate this Haplogroup existed there pre- the slave trade. donnie:The pictures are confusing you I know. Let me shed more light on them so you understand the reason. These people inhabit the papau nee guinean islands and the Andaman islands off the coast of India. They appear to be Negroid in appearance, however they are genetically disimilar to an African in every way possible. In other words they may look African but they are not. How do you explain this phenomena. Let me explain to you, waves of Ancient Human beings migrated out of Africa over thousands of years. Some of these humans already adapted and retained the physical apperances of african people i.e. Dark skin, wooly to kinky hair however their genetics did not remain the same. The mutations continued to change. These groups of people depicted in these pics are actually closely related to the general Asian population you see around them. They look physically Africoid but are genetically similar to Asians. The point of this is to show that genetics does not necessarily confer physical attributes which is a premise you are using to construct your story. E3b1A equals a specific look of people. This is the reason I asked you what the biological difference is between E3b1A and E3b1B but you avoided that because you did not understand the question and revert back to your circular reasoning by running to scripture to authenticate your sayings. If you wish to delve deeper in Bantu origins then let me know. What I do know is that Hebrews no longer exist. Their DNA has been absorbed into a combination of modern peoples that exist today much like every other evolutionary biological process. As for the current inhabitants of Israel who claim ancestry to ancient Hebrews well that could be the truth but they are also European as far as their DNA is concerned and their claim to their Jewishness as an Ethno-religious group is faulty because a vast majority of people across the world who cut across other ethnic groups are able to do so as well including Arabs. |
donnie:You remind of Ty for real. You should listen to him for real. He is your Nigerian brother. lol Remember this saying Donnie, Truth is a generally accepted outcome or reasoning while fact is a proven truth...in other words every Fact is True but not all Truths are facts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5EL40aEnAY |
donnie:Yep, you sound just about like them boyz on the streets of Harlem following the doctrine of BEn Ammi Ben Israel. Your version is just another sect or cult from this original group. You can't answer my questions can you cause you don't know how to answer them can you. Let me ask again. What is the biological difference btw an E3b1A YDNA(Bantu) carrier and an E3B1B( Somali) YDNA carrier? If Somali are the descendants of Hamites and Negroes are descendants of shem, prey tell me Donnie who are these people below descended from? Dumb ass!
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donnie:You don't owe me anything but it is necessary for you to defend your assertions. Did boredom bring you to studying all this gibberish about Bantu's and Israel and if you did what is the true relevance of you finding this out. Is it ultimately to inform us that there are imposters out there posing as Hebrews? lets for one second agree with your ludicris assertion, what does that do for Bantu's now. Is there something we will achieve once we discover that we are the long forgotten Hebrews? Do you think this is our one way ticket to Heaven? Is that the message you are trying to impact on us. Olodo! |
PS, That Ham story about being progenitors of other Dark races is nonsensical information because the understanding of races in the bibilical context was formed by Josephus who categorizes Japhet as Europeans, Shem as Israelites and Ham as Africans in general . Pray you Donnie, Where do these people come from, Are they negroes or hamites according to your jargon
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donnie:Where did you source your Bantu language breakdown of Language and History. Point to me there please. You have cleverly dodged the questions I ask you for fear of stumbling on your own self appointed thesis You continue to insinuate that I support some fake hebrew agenda when I simply ask you to authenticate your information by providing additiona sources around this information you are passing off as corrected abi you need to go back and consult the elders. I will give you time if you need it. As far as failing to debunk "your" truth, you are doing that yourself by exposing your sillness. The questions are simple. What differentiates a e3b1a from E3b1b in terms of genetics? What does this paternal DNA difference imply in terms of a Somali and a so called bantu. is it that they don't hav ethe same founding father and therefore are not Isrealites? Do you know what autosomal DNA is? IF the bantu's are israelites at what time frame in history did they move from the levant to scatter all across west -central Africa. As they moved from the levant to these other parts of Africa, are there no documentations outside of your biblical tests that account for this journey? What is the significance of these Israeli's journey to slave ships as you mention? Are Mende, Wolof, Fulani, Twi, Akan, Ashanti, Balanta, Bassari Bantu people, if so can you authenticate this information , if not then why not. if you answer just one of these questions then we can be on our journey to debunking your nonsense so please just answer one, you don't have to answer all. |
donnie:Now we are begin to link you the Hebrew Israelite movement which first emanates from the Americas in the 40's. Just so you know there is also a break away group who believe that only BANTU who were transported to the New world are actually the real Israelites while everyone else on the African continent including your left over Bantu are Hamites. Same story different day my guy. You cannot hustle a hustler. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4NuWqslJDs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRyvmRZDwms |
donnie:Tomorrow you will say you are not spewing the same doctrine as Black Hebrew Israelites in the Americas who first began this so called doctrine you are pushing. This is their exact script. What is the biological difference between someone who carries a Paternal YDNA haplogropu E3b1A and E3b1B. What brought about this paternal change? Does this paternal DNA ascribe phenotypes, in other words is this the cause of the difference between Somali physical apperance and that of Bantu's? Please answer this question and we can move forward with differences with Somali and Bantu. donnie:So there is a significance of the these Bantu's who were put on slave ships?.. Hmmmm |
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