₦airaland Forum

gatiano:
They are liars from the beginning, now and will to the end of their days. Black People don't possess no neanderthal genes. Did We at some point in time degenerate into the so called homo erectus? Yes, for a short time, and it wasn't to that extent that We lost our humanity in the process.

How can a species that is evolving degenerate biologically. Homo Sapien(not black people for your information) that appeared in Africa first may likely have mated with other ancient archaic human population roaming around in Africa but that is not a degeneration but simply an absorbing of additional variant genes into the gene pool of the Homo Sapien as it was with Neanderthal and Denisovan.

Ps. Homoerectus was not this archaic species

macof:
What history told you hausa are from Bagdad and Yoruba are from Canaan?

Don't mind that guy.

lebete3000:
What has promiscuity got to do with becoming sick?

If you can't figure out or decipher the relationship between the two then you are an OLODO!

Go and sleep with 16 men unprotected then come back and ask me this question again.

lebete3000:
Why you talk so?

You want to become sick. The ladies married or unmarried there are very promiscious and I am first hand witness to this.

No try am if you wan live long o.

If you Nyash any woman from Southern African Married or unmarried , you dey risk your life walahi!

BRATISLAVA:
But blacks are said to resemble these Neanderthals, so how is this a new finding? The lies of the scientific community are crude.

how do blacks resemble Neanderthals and who said that? You are incorrect.

This particular finding is not surprising as there are African populations that will carry Neanderthal DNA but at a lower frequency due to back migrations. The deeper you go into Africa the less likely the populations would carry this particular gene.

Strongmercy123:
Good evenin house. pls my fiance have been living in South Africa for 5yrs now, recently he started complaining about how light goes off and how it affects his network. Sometimes we don’t get to communicate for days because according to him they uses light for everything including calls, pls should I be worried?

You should be worried. Light has nothing to do with contacting you in Nigeria. You better tell your fiancé to stop playing games with you and be serious otherwise let you know what's up.

The truth might hurt you but it will set you free at the same time.

khiaa:
First of all I am a woman,

I suspected as much. I will address you as such then

khiaa:
secondly you are the one who brought Egyptians into the conversation and I never stated that African Americans are related to the Egyptians, my point was in your statement about the Spinx's African nose.

Point taken

khiaa:
P.S. You forgot the genetic testing is being tested and measured by the results on those modern day so called Egyptians not the real African ones. Same with those fake Jews(Polish, German) in Israel.

You are incorrect. The Male YDtna e3b1b is an African marker that passes from father to son in an unbroken chain thousands of years back so regardless of the mix of people in Egypt today we can determine the ones who's male ancestors were the original ancient Egyptians. If any Ydtna for an Egyptian males does not correlate to this marker then his lineage is not from the original peoples of Ancient Kemet.

The Ashkenazi Jews of course know deep down inside they do not descend from the ancient Hebrews/cannanites/phonecians but have ursurped that history and peoples so I am not in argument with that.

khiaa:
I don't understand why Africans refuse to believe that they contributed greatly to this world before the existence of the Europeans.

This is not what we are discussing here. Many African populations all through millenia have contributed greatly to human history. This is without a doubt but that has nothing to do with authenticating information about the presence of "Africans" in the new world.

khiaa:
If you are refuting the fact that ancient Egyptians were African then brother you are truly lost.

It is not as simple as stating ancient Egyptians were African to prove anything my brother.

Genetic evidence unites ancient Egyptians paternally through the PN2 clad( a haplogroup) that brings forth EM2 which birth E3b or E3b1b and E3a or E3b1a who are cousin divergent mutations.

Your lineage would tie Paternally to E3ba which is the most popular Y DNA for African American males who do not have European ancestry via miscegenation.

AA are not related genetically to Egyptians more so than they are related to West and central Africans so you should be more concerned with West African history. Ancient Egypt is a cross roads of many continents and many peoples all through time and so has nothing to do with the Americas or lineages that exist there.

Were they African, of course they were, on the basis of their geographic location but if you are trying to tie them to West African and Bantu populations well genetically that line diverged close to 30,000 years ago. They did not travel to the new world nor do they have much to do with the African American population genetically.

khia:
When I said the 5 dollar Indian I wasn't talking about natives intermixing with whites, I was talking about deception and the ultimate appropriation of a culture for pay other than the Jewish people in Israel. Please google 5 dollar Indian's.

Thank you for the clarification. The reason I mentioned the intermixing of Indians with whites is because this was the impetus for the appropriation of culture. Many so called Indians today who look White claim ancestry and have proven this via DNA to Indians but have denied the same inclusion of Blacks who have equal native ancestry.

khiaa:
We all know that someone discovering a place that is already inhabited by people is nonsense but once again that is the logic of European people who wants to claim possession of the entire Earth.

The olmecs in Mexico with undeniable African features hasn't been debunked they are real. Who is doing the debunking? Don't mentioned any debunking or conjectures given by European people because they have a lot to lose with the truth being known.

Presenting the Olmecs features as African does not equal "Africans were in the new world 1000 of years ago." these were presented by anthropologists van sertima and Clyde Winters and are old knowledge. If you are looking for info that debunks this Google is your friend or the Journal of Human genetics which presents Mayans as having features that can be mis-represented as African. An example of this being Luzia the oldest human fossil found in the Americas who was said to have negroid features but was confirmed to be native American upon DNA analysis.

"Africoid" features can be present in ancient and modern populations of people without them being specifically from "Africa." Where is the DNA evidence to back this archeological assertion. Genetics has always confirmed or trumped archeological theories based on artifacts.

equating the African presence of via the Olmec statues is like presenting the same story that the reason the Sphinxs nose in eqypt was missing is was a ploy by Europeans to hide the African features of the ancient Egyptians. Its gibberish.

khiaa:
You need to do more research the American history is not the whole truth, there are many lies and deceptions, one being that Christopher Columbus discovered America.

Africans had been going back and foward to America thousands of years before Christopher stepped on the continent, some even stayed and settled in America. The history of America was designed to make whites seem superior.
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Columbus could have not 'discovered somewhere were people were living on already so that's nonsensical.

If you are talking about the voyages of Mansa Musa's brother there is a lot of conjecture in there.

If you are talking about other African historians and anthropologists who continue to mention Olmecs and African artifacts that were found in the Americas, those have been debunked.

khiaa:
There weren't European looking natives, they were all people of color. The "European looking"ones that exist today came about due to the *5 dollar Indian* google it.

I am aware of admixtures of Indians with Europeans, that is not where I am going.

Natives didn't look European but their skin pigmentation prior to the arrival of Europeans are pigmentations that are not foreign to Europe who also have varying degrees of color.

The below two pics are of a European(Spaniard) and a native American(eskimo)

khiaa:
Ok, you are finally getting it, the natives came in all colors including black/dark brown, therefore some were dark before merging with the Africans.

If what you are trying to say is that all your ancestors were "dark skinned" that may be the case.


This does not invalidate my statement which is technically speaking you have an admixture of Asian (same as any other light skinned Asian) and African in you regardless of skin tone and clarifies your statement about "black" people being in the Americas before the Europeans.

khiaa:
I don't need a DNA test to tell me about my native side because I'm with them everyday. I told you that you don't know all there is to know about American/Black American history and your post proved it. Why do you assume my native side must be from some long ago intermixing?

I did not assume anything. I actually addressed that. I said the knowledge of your "native American side" is either via DNA or oral which means it passed as a result of family knowledge aka what you know or what you have seen or are around

khiaa:
My grandmother is half black American " her father" her mother is a mixture of Souix, Seminole. There were/are dark skinned Seminoles.

Again Seminoles incorporated Africans into their fold. The pigmentation of a Seminole is in tandem with other native American tribes all across the Americas which range from a light to copper to darker hue.

Therefore all shades of colors existed in the Americas before the coming of Europeans including hues that would be similar to that of Europeans and Africans.

Supersweet2019:
My ancestors did not ask to come here but built this country and the great wealth people all over the world come here to enjoy. I respect and honor them for their sacrifice although many of my African brothers/sister disrespect their descendants and chose not to learn the truth about who we really are. (Crying emoji)

Ya'll are still trying to figure out who you really are after the 400+ year gap from your heritage so once you've sorted yourselves out from being Nuwabian, Hebrew Israelites, New Moors, Conscious movement, NOI, new covenant, GOCC, etc then we can talk.

khiaa:
My most recent ancestors originated from Africa as well as the U.S. Black Asians are still black people, all black people are not African. I said black people were here before the whites ever stepped a foot in America which is true.

The term black as it is used in contemporary usage denotes people of "African" Ancestry, heritage or descent. We all know there are people across the world who have skin pigmentation akeen to that of sub Saharan peoples so your narration is confusing. All kinds of people with different pigmentation from brown to white, were here in the Americas before the arrival of Europeans.

khiaa:
The aboriginals of Australia are black (non African) Some Indians in India are black(non Africans) but there are Indians in India who have been there for many many centuries who originated from Africa. Yes, I know you will say that Indians are Asian but they are still black people.

The above is all true, however you are trying to jump around in circles.

How do you know your ancestors who are "Black Asian" were actually black skinned?

If you took a DNA test, the best it could do was tell you what percentage of native American you had in you. How did you figure out that this population that contributed to your DNA were indeed "black skinned" native Americans since native Americans have different shades of skin pigmentation.

If the information came from oral tradition through your family ancestry i.e. passed down via family stories, then what native tribe in particular do you descend from, cause most of the ones in the continental US were not "black" or "black skinned" as you indicate. At least not the contemporary ones.

You are being a little mischievous here at worst and at best are being disingenuous.

JaceBlaze:
Never thought I'd see a Nigerian of all people so pro-LGBTQ,this is quite shocking to be honest.I guess you are the only nigerian willing to upload his mindset into the 21st century.

So because I happen to be from a certain geographical area in the world this equates to not being able to use my intelligence to decipher such issues as sexuality, sexual orientation and sexual fluidity. This should not be shocking at all.

JaceBlaze:
Did you just call me a troglodyte? how so when your society is one of the most vocal when it comes to their anti gay antics?

I called you a troglodyte, I didn't call the whole of South Africans troglodytes, Did I?

khiaa:
I never said there were Africans, I said black people as in black native Americans, which I am a part of. I consider whites as neanderthals because that's what they are a part of, which they admit themselves. There is a whole lot of the US/American history that you do not know nor understand.

"Black skinned" native Americans are genetically Asian and so I don't know what you mean in your first statement.

Skin pigmentation does not confer race nor does it confer genotype. If you are part "native American" it means you are part Asian or carry genetic material that emanates or was evolved in Asia.

As far as Neanderthals are concerned, every other peoples outside of Sub Saharan Africans carry reminants of Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA in them including some very small groups in Africa including the Masai and Ethiopians who carry a back migratory genetic code from West Asia.

PS, do not assume that I do not know anything about racial or genetic history in the Americas. If you believe so then try me with the knowledge that you believe I don't have.

If you identify as an African American your "most recent" ancestors emanate from the African continent and you would carry a significant amount of DNA from that region.

Period.

If this story is true my guy your woman is on the highly sexual side. Women and Men fall somewhere between are a spectrum from Highly sexual to Highly emotional. Most men will range closer to the highly sexual side and women to the highly emotional side.

If you find a woman who is on the highly sexual side it means she is very similar to a typical man's behavior in terms of sexual desire and if this is true of this lady then sorry to say it will be hard for you to stop this behavior.

JaceBlaze:
Not a problem to me as your sexual orientation does not affect me in anyway.But I would be lying if I said hearing a man use the word "fine" to describe the looks of another man does not raise eyebrows.Sure! South Africa is a country that let people be what they wish to be but not everyone is indoctrinated...

Your eyebrows can rise until they reach your hairline, if you find anything strange about that in this day and age you obviously are at worst a troglodyte and at best a Homophobe in the closet.

Are you one of those in Sa that believes in "turning" Lesbians by raping them?

IronGalaxy:
He has clout where he's beloved and supported, and that's his own country.

Yes the whole of you guys world starts in the cape and ends on the hills of the Limpopo.

This sums up your mind sets which is why we are not the same and will never be.

Oluwaburna_International !

AkA -Manenburg champion!

JaceBlaze:
Is this you coming out of the closet and making a confession that you are into fine boys? ...Morphy! Is there anything else I need to know?

Eve if I were insinuating such, would that be a problem seeing that your country always flaunts itself as the most liberal in Africa when it comes to "those" matters.

soilsista:
Lol someone can't speak in their natural accent without being accused of being fake. Coming from masters of mispronunciation who sound inaudible when they speak? It's really tough maarn!

Point 1. We sound inaudible to any Southern African because their English pronunciations are influenced by Afrikaans accents.

Point 2. AKA has never lived abroad in his life, where did he get his accent from. Most Nigerian rappers who flaunt American accents have actually lived a substantial amount of time overseas.

soilsista:
Lol Nigerians talking about fake accents? What a wow

We are talking about Burna and AKA here and we all know one of them who has never lived abroad in his life is forming American accent.


***its very Obvious**** in Julius Malema voice.

JaceBlaze:
Morphy as he typed all that...

At least you used a fine boys face to depict Morphy crying.

***AHHHHH SHAME*** in Somizi's voice.

IronGalaxy:
it is what it is, if you think otherwise that's your business

Sharrap there my friend. We will take Burna over a overhyped fake accent future wannabe SA rapper who has not clout outside of North side Johannesburg.

Can you imagine comparing Burna to that banana!

HORRORIZON:
You people are delusional. Lol The AA revenue flow is like $2 trillion, nearly twice that of the entire African continent. How in the hell could a so called "lazy people", who don't work, and sit around doing drugs and crime all day blaming whites for their "miserable lives" generate that much capital out of a group of like 50mill compared to Africa's over 1bill inhabitants? I do agree that despite the successes we need to begin a more progressive turn toward greater levels of ownership in the American market.

As far as ownership is concerned I highly doubt that will be achieved because the game is rigged against that. A people need Land or a sovereign area to stand a good chance in achieving anything. The AA is caught between loyalty to his country that has not wanted him for a long period of time and building this fortress behind enemy lines. Its a hard one if you ask me.

khiaa:
There were blacks in America before any neanderthal stepped a foot on the continent.

The use of the term "black" in your statement above is misleading and so is the use of "Neanderthal"

They were no contemporary Africans(of which AA belong to genetically and phenotypically) that were on the continent of the Americas pre the Ameri indians or native American populations.

There is evidence of populations that existed pre the arrival of the so called native Americans 15,000 years ago but they are not genetically African.

The oldest fossil luzi dated as far back as 13,000 years ago still clusters with native Americans genetically and so does Kenewick man dated about 9,000 years ago.

The closest guess would be Melanasian or Australoid populations who resemble Africans phenotypically but are not what you would term a contemporary African.

IronGalaxy:
its because he tweeted a lot of nonsense about SA about an issue he knew little of, to cap it off he threatened one of SA's beloved artists He pissed a lot of South Africans off

That your cape town colored hoodlum turned Jozi thug started the problem when he can't shut that mouth of his on twitter, trying to defend and indefensible act.

Burna boy na area boy who is very Afrocentric and even though he did not know all the facts, was genuinely pissed off at your Xenophobic brothers and sisters.

Go and hug transformer, the real Africa loves Oluwaburna and his works speak for themselves.

Haters!

No mind dem. The people dey carry grudge for body die, na psychology dey worry dem die.

SOUthy go hug transformer!

HypocriteNazi:
Well well well, what do we have here

Nigerians calling a whole group of people useless and other insulting generalizations, but then will go to Quo ra crying up and down to the white people there to not judge and use insulting generalizations on them.

Hmmm

This is Nairaland. Take your Nazi self back to Quora